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« on: August 14, 2010, 09:18:38 AM » |
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Its looks real,but is it fake?.if its real why have they released it,through the backdoor?to stick in truthers face? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4IQR1-W7w0&feature=related
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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2010, 09:22:32 AM » |
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Real or Fake? If its real why release through a back door?why now? to stick in our face?Ive also posted on the 9/11 board http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4IQR1-W7w0&feature=related
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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2010, 09:32:20 AM » |
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Good one only i never saw the ``movie clip`` from above
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2010, 10:08:14 AM » |
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Well, there are independent experts in determining whether video like this is genuine.
I've been on the fence for a while now, though I was formerly a big believer in the "missile at the Pentagon" theory -- though I am by no means a "no planes at WTC" person.
If this is real, it is very damning and there are probably 49 others like it somewhere.
What got me again is the size of the hole made -- look a the sign next to it -- likely the size of a traffic sign for comparison.
That just doesn't seem consistent with an airliner, but maybe the blast of an explosion from a missile.
The actual "video" of the missile could be faked.
Also, once again, the video previously released by the gov't. appears to show the nosecone of a missile rather than the profile of the leading edge of an airliner -- much less acute an angle -- unless that too was fake.
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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2010, 10:18:37 AM » |
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I remember seeing that photo of the AA cruise missle before and the consensus was that it was photoshopped, but thats just what I remember from a couple years ago- That other video is kinda crazy though if that is legit, which it may or may not be
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2010, 10:18:43 AM » |
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Anyone remember a few years back, a father, concerned about his son, called Alex on his show and told him about his son's friend (a soldier) who claimed he was shown a film by a CIA man to a group of soldiers? The film showed a missile hitting the Pentagon, except the CIA man pointed out how first it was a missile, then it looked like a passenger jet, then a missile again. Apparently the CIA guy was getting off on the cleverness of the visual deception on the film. The soldier was very disturbed by the CIA film and discussed it with his friend who became worried and told his father about the incident. Alex wasn't sure what to say to the caller. I never heard any follow up to this by Alex, but the father sounded like he was on the level.
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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2010, 10:21:15 AM » |
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Anyone remember a few years back, a father, concerned about his son, called Alex on his show and told him about his son's friend (a soldier) who claimed he was shown a film by a CIA man to a group of soldiers? The film showed a missile hitting the Pentagon, except the CIA man pointed out how first it was a missile, then it looked like a passenger jet, then a missile again. Apparently the CIA guy was getting off on the cleverness of the visual deception on the film. The soldier was very disturbed by the CIA film and discussed it with his friend who became worried and told his father about the incident. Alex wasn't sure what to say to the caller. I never heard any follow up to this by Alex, but the father sounded like he was on the level.
yeah the missile/plane game for the Pentagon has been going on since the first few weeks. Looks like it is their best way to distract from the irrefutable controlled demolition of WTC7.
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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2010, 10:23:21 AM » |
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just so everyone knows i posted this ,some 6 months ago and it was dismissed a disinfo btw i thought it was real also  quite convincing
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2010, 10:25:19 AM » |
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Anyone remember a few years back, a father, concerned about his son, called Alex on his show and told him about his son's friend (a soldier) who claimed he was shown a film by a CIA man to a group of soldiers? The film showed a missile hitting the Pentagon, except the CIA man pointed out how first it was a missile, then it looked like a passenger jet, then a missile again. Apparently the CIA guy was getting off on the cleverness of the visual deception on the film. The soldier was very disturbed by the CIA film and discussed it with his friend who became worried and told his father about the incident. Alex wasn't sure what to say to the caller. I never heard any follow up to this by Alex, but the father sounded like he was on the level.
I remember that call, but the caller didn't go into detail much, i don't remember him mentioning the pentagon, only maybe the towers. Sure they sat and watched an un-seen vid and the boss man pointed out all the give-aways or something like that.
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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2010, 10:26:11 AM » |
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Well, there are independent experts in determining whether video like this is genuine.
I've been on the fence for a while now, though I was formerly a big believer in the "missile at the Pentagon" theory -- though I am by no means a "no planes at WTC" person.
If this is real, it is very damning and there are probably 49 others like it somewhere.
What got me again is the size of the hole made -- look a the sign next to it -- likely the size of a traffic sign for comparison.
That just doesn't seem consistent with an airliner, but maybe the blast of an explosion from a missile.
The actual "video" of the missile could be faked.
Also, once again, the video previously released by the gov't. appears to show the nosecone of a missile rather than the profile of the leading edge of an airliner -- much less acute an angle -- unless that too was fake.
I have actually researched this subject to great depth and it does appear to be unquestionably true that the Pentagon bombing was an inside job, on the basis of all the damning and hard to misconstrue circumstantial, photographic, forensic, radiological and other prima-facia evidence and curiously inconsistent and or otherwise inexplicable "honestly uncoaxed" first-hand witness testimonies. They certainly also had clear motives to stage it. No underslung engined jet airliner could ever fly that low to the ground, it is a complete and absolute physical impossibility for one to do so. The famous "Pentagon Video" is either a forgery or it was not a jet airliner. What actually hit the Pentagon: an old stone apparently left unturnedhttp://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=164982.msg987100#msg987100But Jimd still stubbornly disagrees and labels me a cointelpro "no planer"... 
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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2010, 10:30:43 AM » |
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If the footage is real, a good question is why was a plane/jet lingering over the Pentacon taking pictures at that exact moment?
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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2010, 10:33:46 AM » |
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« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2010, 10:45:11 AM » |
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With all due respect Pilots for 9/11 Truth all completely and categorically disagree with your flippant attitude towards the official story of this patently obvious all too cleverly engineered false flag "attack". A cargo plane dropped a PEGASYS missile launcher air drop palette with a blue tarped retractable hinged launch-door cover onto the edge of the lawn, end of story. Nobody moves an assembled Korean War style Quonset Hut in one piece. 757s and 767s have no depleted uranium ballast weights in their wings No jet airliner flies at a foot of altitude There is no evidence of a massive, trapped kerosene fire There was no intact tail section etc, etc
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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2010, 10:47:15 AM » |
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this video is a hoax. fake.
missile graphics were amateurishly superimposed over some pentagon footage. the motion tracking is sooooo poor, it should be embarrassing for anybody who falls for it.
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« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2010, 10:51:31 AM » |
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With all due respect Pilots for 9/11 Truth all completely and categorically disagree with your flippant attitude towards the official story of this patently obvious all too cleverly engineered false flag "attack".
A cargo plane dropped a PEGASYS missile launcher, end of story.
Pilots for 911 Truth seem to be a very controlled opposition outfit, especially concerning the Pentagon.
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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2010, 11:05:04 AM » |
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Pilots for 911 Truth seem to be a very controlled opposition outfit, especially concerning the Pentagon.
How is it to be termed "controlled opposition" to point out that they are complete and total liars, and that their 'official' story of the event is a complete impossibility with more holes in it than a sieve? (and most strangely, no holes for the two huge, hard 757 engines? LOL)
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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2010, 11:33:47 AM » |
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 Interesting, this totally incriminating "covered JPADS Tomahawk-pallet platform near the road being hustled off under the tarp" photo is suddenly disappearing everywhere ROTFLMAO http://www.pentagonresearch.com/images/216-large.jpg(seems it hit a couple light poles and so, landed a bit further out than they'd expected it to, so it took a bit too long to gather up, bundle, conceal and recover) They even tried to shut down the forum here exactly as they did when we exposed the Mossad truck-bombed WTC7 Triage Deathcamp connection to the Murraugh Building dry-run after Barry Jennings' suspicious assassination. The behindthecurtain site has been shut down too Note the three distinct missile exhaust "burn mark flame-lick bulges" on the lower bottom edge of the blue launcher palette cover behind the retractible door with its neatly triangular flap sewn rider-hem point, and the bundled PEGASYS guided-descent control package/chute in the background. PEGASYS stands for "precision extended glide airdrop system" the 1990s-era progenitor of todays more advanced JPADS
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« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2010, 11:38:03 AM » |
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regardless of what one believes hit the pentagon. the above video is fake. and not even a good fake.
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« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2010, 08:30:36 PM » |
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I hadn't seen it before,i did think it might be fake.I live in hope the truth may one day come out.
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« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2011, 09:24:54 PM » |
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The photo at 1:29, where did that come from? what is it? it really looks like a modified cruise missile dressed up like a jet liner, I don't know if you have ever seen a model airplane fly,but at low altitude with no clouds it is hard to get a fix on how large the model is, and could easily be mistaken by the human eye as a full size plane.
Model planes are hard to identify as model planes when there are no clouds/objects next to it to fix your eyes to scale. If this "model"/cruise missile was flying over a high way at high speeds and struck the pentagon a few sec later, I wouldn't be surprised if 80% of the people who witnessed it would of mistaken it for a full size plane.
This is probably why the videos at the pentagon where all confiscated, because if we had videos of the object with something in the background we would of been able to associate a scale/size/length to the object with the triangulation we could accomplish from multiple vantage points.
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