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« on: August 12, 2010, 01:27:52 PM »

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'Ground Zero Mosque' Imam Was A Bush-Era Partner For Mideast Peace
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http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/08/ground_zero_mosque_imam_bush_partner_for_peace.php
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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2010, 01:54:39 PM »

http://www.demotix.com/news/110499/imam-feisal-abdul-rauf

Imam Feisal speaks frequently at major US think tanks and international conferences, including

Council on Foreign Relations, (David Rockefeller)

YPO, (Young President's Organization - Rockefeller)

World Economic Forum in Davos. (Bilderberg elite Banksters)


In addition, his ability to motivate religious novices and experts alike has made him a popular teacher of Islam at many respected New York institutions, including the

Center for Religious Inquiry at St. Bartholomew's Church (Harvard/Yale/Columbia/Univesity of Chicago Zionist think tank) and

the Chautauqua Institution. (Zionazi Elitist Cult)


Imam Feisal is a member of

the World Economic Forum Council of 100 Leaders (DAVOS INNER CIRCLE of Bilderberg Psycho International Banksters).

He is also an advisor to the

Interfaith Center of New York. (Rockefeller Brothers Fund)

A charismatic public speaker, Imam Feisal has appeared in national and international media such as

CNN, (CIA and Rockefeller/Harriman's Project Mockingbird)

CBS, (CIA and Rockefeller/Harriman's Project Mockingbird)

NBC, (GE/Bilderberg/Harriman/Nazi and Stalin enablers)

ABC, (CIA and Rockefeller/Harriman's Project Mockingbird)

PBS and (CIA and Rockefeller/Harriman's Project Mockingbird)

BBC. (Bilderberg)


He has been quoted in

the New York Times,  (Bilderberg)

Time magazine, (Bilderberg)

Washington Post, (Bilderberg)

New York Daily News, (Murdoch)

Jerusalem Post, and (Murdoch)

Associated Press. (Rothschild)


He was educated in England and Malaysia and has a

degree in physics from Columbia University in New York, USA. (MK Ultra, CIA, Monarch)
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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2010, 02:12:34 PM »

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Council on Foreign Relations, (David Rockefeller)
YPO, (Young President's Organization - Rockefeller)
World Economic Forum in Davos. (Bilderberg elite Banksters)

Center for Religious Inquiry at St. Bartholomew's Church (Harvard/Yale/Columbia/Univesity of Chicago Zionist think tank) and
the Chautauqua Institution. (Zionazi Elitist Cult)
the World Economic Forum Council of 100 Leaders
(DAVOS INNER CIRCLE of Bilderberg Psycho International Banksters).
Interfaith Center of New York. (Rockefeller Brothers Fund)
CNN, (CIA and Rockefeller/Harriman's Project Mockingbird)
CBS, (CIA and Rockefeller/Harriman's Project Mockingbird)
NBC, (GE/Bilderberg/Harriman/Nazi and Stalin enablers)
ABC, (CIA and Rockefeller/Harriman's Project Mockingbird)
PBS and (CIA and Rockefeller/Harriman's Project Mockingbird)
BBC. (Bilderberg)
the New York Times,  (Bilderberg)
Time magazine, (Bilderberg)
Washington Post, (Bilderberg)
New York Daily News, (Murdoch)
Jerusalem Post, and (Murdoch)
Associated Press. (Rothschild)
degree in physics from Columbia University in New York, USA. (MK Ultra, CIA, Monarch)


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And "Islam" means "submission to God".
This guy is so busy submitting to the NWO, he has no time for God.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam
Islam (Arabic: الإسلام‎ al-’islām, pronounced [ʔislæːm]  ( listen)[note 1]) is the monotheistic religion articulated by the Qur’an, a text considered by its adherents to be the verbatim word of God (Arabic: الله‎, Allāh), and by the Prophet of Islam Muhammad's teachings and normative example (which is called the Sunnah in Arabic, and demonstrated in collections of Hadith). Islam literally means "submission (to God)."[1]
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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2010, 02:17:33 PM »

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And "Islam" means "submission to God".
This guy is so busy submitting to the NWO, he has no time for God.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam
Islam (Arabic: الإسلام‎ al-’islām, pronounced [ʔislæːm]  ( listen)[note 1]) is the monotheistic religion articulated by the Qur’an, a text considered by its adherents to be the verbatim word of God (Arabic: الله‎, Allāh), and by the Prophet of Islam Muhammad's teachings and normative example (which is called the Sunnah in Arabic, and demonstrated in collections of Hadith). Islam literally means "submission (to God)."[1]

This guy submits to Bilderberg who he feels is above god. The Mosque is an obvious provocateur operation and has absolutely nothing to do with true Islam. It is a New World Order operation and a 5 minute study of the New World Order clearly shows it is a movement to end all monotheistic religions and wipe them off the map.
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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2010, 12:46:48 AM »

From the moment I heard they were trying to build a mosque in that area I immediately saw it as a propaganda bit to stir up the muslim phobia/hatred once more. It is so obvious, but the average brain dead american does not see it and plays right into it.
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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2010, 04:55:05 AM »

they love rubbing their own neocons faces in it
its about domination and control
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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2010, 07:56:53 PM »

Obama supports plan for mosque near ground zero
At a Ramadan dinner at the White House, the president breaks his silence on the issue, framing it as one of religious freedom.



http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-obama-mosque-20100814,0,7153887.story
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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2010, 08:47:37 PM »

http://www.demotix.com/news/110499/imam-feisal-abdul-rauf

Imam Feisal speaks frequently at major US think tanks and international conferences, including

Council on Foreign Relations, (David Rockefeller)

YPO, (Young President's Organization - Rockefeller)

World Economic Forum in Davos. (Bilderberg elite Banksters)


Yup, it's on their own websites, he speaks there because they fund him.....

Who is behind this project?

The project calls for a 13-story community center including a mosque, performing art center, gym, swimming pool and other public spaces.

It is a collaboration between the American Society for Muslim Advancement and the Cordoba Initiative
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/06/new.york.ground.zero.mosque/index.html

American Society for Muslim Advancement
    
BOARD MEMBERS
 
Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf

Founder of ASMA and Chairman of Cordoba Initiative.
http://www.asmasociety.org/home/p_people.html

    
Our Supporters: U.S. Foundations
    * Carnegie Corporation of New York
    * Rockefeller Brothers
    * Rockefeller Philanthropy
    * Rockefeller Brothers Fund
    * Global Fund for Women
    * William & Mary Greve Foundation
    * The Sister Fund
    * The Russell Family Foundation
    * Danny Kaye & Sylvia Fine Foundation
    * Graham Charitable Foundation
    * Deak Family Foundation
    * Henry Luce Foundation
    * The Elizabeth Foundation
    * The Ms. Foundation
    * Hunt Alternatives

http://www.asmasociety.org/home/p_support.html


Cordoba Initiative

Founder and Visionary
Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf


Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf is Chairman of Cordoba Initiative, having founded the organization in 2004.

In 1997, he founded the American Society for Muslim Advancement(ASMA)

Imam Feisal has appeared regularly at the Council on Foreign Relations and the World Economic Forum
http://www.cordobainitiative.org/?q=content/staff-bios
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« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2010, 09:27:47 PM »

Yup, it's on their own websites, he speaks there because they fund him.....

Who is behind this project?

The project calls for a 13-story community center including a mosque, performing art center, gym, swimming pool and other public spaces.

It is a collaboration between the American Society for Muslim Advancement and the Cordoba Initiative
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/06/new.york.ground.zero.mosque/index.html

American Society for Muslim Advancement
    
BOARD MEMBERS
 
Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf

Founder of ASMA and Chairman of Cordoba Initiative.
http://www.asmasociety.org/home/p_people.html

    
Our Supporters: U.S. Foundations
   * Carnegie Corporation of New York
    * Rockefeller Brothers
    * Rockefeller Philanthropy
    * Rockefeller Brothers Fund

    * Global Fund for Women
    * William & Mary Greve Foundation
    * The Sister Fund
    * The Russell Family Foundation
    * Danny Kaye & Sylvia Fine Foundation
    * Graham Charitable Foundation
    * Deak Family Foundation
    * Henry Luce Foundation
    * The Elizabeth Foundation
    * The Ms. Foundation
    * Hunt Alternatives

http://www.asmasociety.org/home/p_support.html


Cordoba Initiative

Founder and Visionary
Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf


Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf is Chairman of Cordoba Initiative, having founded the organization in 2004.

In 1997, he founded the American Society for Muslim Advancement(ASMA)

Imam Feisal has appeared regularly at the Council on Foreign Relations and the World Economic Forum
http://www.cordobainitiative.org/?q=content/staff-bios


First the history... this is a report from a meeting held in Massachusetts in 1914... you will read this and recognize that the Eugenicists' agenda is still alive and well. Think about it. This is a blueprint for everything that has happened in the past 96 years. You see it continues today - these are some dedicated psychopaths.

This organization was founded by the Harriman, Rockefeller, and Carnegie Families.




Eugenics Record Office.

BULLETIN No. 10A:

Report of the Committee to Study
and to Report on the Best Practical Means of
Cutting Off the Defective Germ-Plasm
in the American Population.


I. THE SCOPE OF THE COMMITTEE'S WORK, by HARRY H. LAUGHLIN,
Secretary of the Committee,
Cold Spring Harbor, Long Island, New York, February, 1914.

This document has been scanned and prepared for publication in Adobe Acrobat format by the staff of the National Information Resource on Ethics and Human Genetics. The digitization was performed with funding from Georgetown University's subgrant through National Human Genome Research Institute's Centers of Excellence in ELSI Research (CEER) award to Duke University under grant number 06-SC-NIH-1027, Robert Cook-Deegan, Principal Investigator.
 
 
National Information Resource on Ethics and Human Genetic
The Joseph and Rose Kennedy Institute of Ethics
Georgetown University
Washington, DC 20057-1212
202-687-3885, 888-GEN-ETHX, FAX: 202-687-6770
http://bioethics.georgetown.edu/nirehg/




INTRODUCTION.

The investigation reported in this series of studies was initiated at the second meeting of the Research Committees of the Eugenics Section of the American Breeders Association at Palmer, Mass., May 2 and 3, 1911, Dr. W. N. Bullard presiding. At this meeting the following resolution was unanimously adopted:

Resolved, That the Chair appoint a committee commissioned to study and report on the best practical means for cutting off the defective germ-plasm in the American population.

Whereupon Dr. Bullard, after consultation, named the following members: Dr. W. H. Mitchell, Hathorne, Mass., Chairman; Bleecker Van Wagenen, Alstead Center, N. H.; Dr. Everett Flood, Palmer, Mass.; Dr. W. H. Carmalt, New Haven, Conn.; H. H. Laughlin, Cold Spring Harbor, Long Island. Later in the day the Chairman, Dr. Mitchell, designated Mr. Laughlin Secretary.

On July 15, 1911, the committee met with Mr. Van Wagenen at the City Club, 55 West 44th Street, New York City. Dr. Mitchell, on account of other engaging duties, resigned the chairmanship of the committee; whereupon, on motion of Dr. Carmalt, Mr. Van Wagenen was unanimously chosen Chairman. The committee met from time to time under the leadership of Mr. Van Wagenen, and outlined the investigation. It was decided to make the study as comprehensive and as thorough as possible, and to this end the aid of an expert advisory committee was deemed essential.

The following named experts were duly invited and accepted membership on the committee as indicated: Medicine, L. F. Barker; physiology, W. B. Cannon; surgery,
Alexis Carrel; biology, Herbert J. Webber; thremmatology, Raymond Pearl; anthropology, Alex. F. Chamberlain; psychiatry, Stewart Paton; psychology, H. H. Goddard; woman’s viewpoint, Mrs. Caroline B. Alexander; criminology, Warren W. Foster; sociology, Franklin H. Giddings; economics, James A. Field; statistics, O. P. Austin; immigration, R. DeC. Ward; law, James M. Beck and Louis Marshall; history, James J. Walsh; public affairs, Irving Fisher; international
cooperation, E. E. Southard.

The work of gathering and analyzing data began in the summer of 1911, and the Chairman, Mr. Van Wagenen, presented before the First International Eugenics Congress, which met in London, July 24 to 30, 1912, a preliminary report of the investigation.

It is the purpose of the committee to investigate all phases of the problem of cutting off the supply of defectives, and to publish from time to time data which will, we trust, aid the student of social affairs in weighing any particular phase of the problem that may present itself.

The committee will therefore study the facts in reference to the numbers of and the rate and manner of increase of the socially inadequate.

It will strive to analyze the factors of heredity and environment in the production of the social unfitness observed. It will report first-hand facts concerning the drag that these classes entail upon the general welfare, and will review the first-hand studies in human heredity that have been made by careful study of the problem. And finally the committee will point out what appears as a result of study to be “the best practical means,” so far as the innate traits are a factor, of purging the blood of the American people of the handicapping and deteriorating influences of these anti-social classes.

The first series of studies will be devoted to a study of sterilization as a eugenical agency.

THE FIELD OF STUDY

The specific problems, then, now before this committee may be classified as follows:

1. Medicine: Standards and methods for determining the type of degenerates proposed for eugenical segregation or sterilization. The relation of sterilization to the spread of venereal diseases. Sterilization as a therapeutic agent. The classification and determination of human defects.

2. Physiology: Comparative effects of the various forms of sterilization on normal and the different types of abnormal individuals, both male and female, at different ages, in respect to nutrition, growth, temperament, primary sex organs, secondary sexual characteristics, voice and physiological reactions.

3. Surgery: Technical and popular description of the various methods employed in sterilizing both males and females. Seriousness and difficulty of the operations. Preparation and convalescence. Possibility of restoring the procreatory function in sterilized persons.

4. Biology:
The origin of defective strains within the human population. Processes of contaminating normal strains with defective traits. The inheritance of defective traits and the manner of their combination into various legal types of the socially unfit. The comparative influence of modern and ancient social conditions on the selective elimination of defectives. The probable outcome of the present tendencies if unchecked.

5. Thremmatology:
Efficacy of sterilization of hereditary degenerates to raise the average of the race. Comparison between the essential principles of eugenics and of plant and animal breeding, application of these principles in consonance with the highest social and moral ideals. Criteria for the identification of persons possessing defective germ-plasms. The consideration of persons of mixed worth and defect. Relative thremmatological effect of sterilizing all persons with defective germ-plasms, and of sterilizing only degenerates. Measure of the relative thremmatological value of sterilization on different scales and at different rates.

6. Anthropology
: History of sterilization and asexualization among ancient and modern nations and tribes. Motives, voluntary factors, etc. Effect upon tribal and national growth.

7. Psychiatry: Classification of the various types of the insane with especial reference to the hereditary factor. Standards and tests for diagnosis.

8. Psychology: Standards and tests for determining the types of mental degenerates and defectives proposed for sterilization. Effects of the various forms of sterilization on both males and females in mental processes, industry, habits of life, and sex instincts.

9. Morals and Ethics: Eugenics and democracy. The attitude of the various churches toward the proposal to sterilize persons known to possess defective germ-plasms. The ethical, moral, and ontological aspects of sterilization. Eugenical limitations of marriages by the ministry.
 
10. Woman’s Viewpoint: Relative responsibilities and burdens of men and women within the socially unfit classes in rearing children. Sterilization as a punitive, humane, and eugenic measure; and as an agency for social prophylaxis. Woman’s view of the rights of parentage of individuals liable to beget socially unfit offspring or who are unable to provide the environment necessary to the normal development of offspring. The attitude of society toward such individuals.

11. Criminology: Role of heredity in crime. Standards and tests for determining the criminal types proposed to sterilize. What constitutes a confirmed criminal? Consideration of the justice of the operation in the case of redeemable delinquents.

12. Sociology: Relative rights and duties of the race and the individual whom society proposes to sterilize. Part the sterilized individual takes in the social fabric and the attitude of society toward such individuals. Estimate of the relative proportion of the socially unfit committed to institutional care to those living in the population at large. Method of reaching defective and potential parents of defectives not in institutions. Relation of sterilized individuals to the social
evil, and the spread of venereal diseases. Estimate of the present social handicap of defectives on the American and other peoples. Relative roles of heredity and environment in producing defectives. Relative rights of control of society and the individual over germ-plasm.

Presentation of special problems connected with the
elimination of each of the several following classes of the socially unfit:


(a) the feeble-minded class,
(b) the pauper class,
(c) the inebriate class,
(d) the criminalistic class,
(e) the epileptic class,
(f) the insane class,
(g) the asthenic or physically weak class,
(h) those predisposed to specific diseases or the diathetic class,
(i) the physically deformed,
(j) those with defective sense organs, or the cacæsthetic class.

13. Political Economy: Measure of the economic handicap of the presence of defectives. Their relation to national, industrial, military, and intellectual efficiency and to national perpetuity. Relation of sterilization on different scales to future population, and to the relative extent of the defective classes. Relation of sterilization to immigration.

14. Statistics
: Data relative to the past, present and probable future cost of maintaining defectives; their number and classification; their rate of increase—absolutely, and compared to the rate of increase of the better strains. The age of persons committed to State custody.
Rate of commitment. Length of commitment.

15. Law: Examination of existing sterilization laws with the view to determining whether the constitutional personal guarantees are sufficiently safeguarded. Do the committees and commissions authorized to enforce the several sterilization laws constitute special courts? Can the decisions of such commissions and committees reverse or modify court decrees? Is sterilization in any of the laws held a punitive remedy? If so, can it be considered as a second punishment
for one offense, or as cruel or unusual punishment? Is the State taking any retaliatory measures toward a certain class of offenders in authorizing the operation? Can the sterilization of degenerates, or especially of criminals, be legitimately effected through the exercise of police
functions? Flexibility of the common law in adapting itself to new social problems. Legal aspect of sterilization in states practicing it without the express authorization of the law. Do existing laws permit any other surgical operation than sterilization? If so, legal bearing?

Do existing laws authorize sterilization as a punitive, a reformatory, a therapeutic, or a eugenic measure? Sterilization and inheritance of property. Framing a model law permitting the sterilization of persons known to have defective germ-plasms, establishing criterion therefore,
and providing for effective execution. Digest of litigation bearing upon or growing out of the operation. Examination of those laws on commitment to state institutions.

16. History: Account of the origin, development and relative numbers of the socially unfit within the great nations of history. Attitude of society toward this class. War and defectives. Elimination of the best blood in relation to national decline. Genius and national greatness.
 
17. Public Affairs
: Sterilization in relation to the general welfare. The conservation policy and sterilization. Political expediency of the proposed remedy. Weighing and balancing of the facts and arguments presented by the consideration of the several aspects of the problems with the view to practical application.

18. International Co-operation:
A review of the studies looking toward the possible application of the sterilization of defectives in foreign countries, together with records of any such operations from eugenical motives; foreign laws, customs and attitudes in reference to eugenical sterilization. The extent and nature of the problem of the socially inadequate in foreign countries.

To complete this series of studies is a huge task, and the committee will be satisfied if it can present under each of the given headings a few of the many pertinent facts for consideration by the public.

From the beginning of these studies the committee has, at frequent intervals, had the advantage of consultation with Dr. Charles B. Davenport, the resident director of the Eugenics Record Office, and to him for his many valuable suggestions the committee is greatly indebted.

HARRY H. LAUGHLIN, Secretary,
Cold Spring Harbor, Long Island.
December 1, 1913.


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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2010, 06:07:05 AM »

Obama's comments on Friday drew criticism from conservatives and others, and the president sought to clarify them during a trip to Florida on Saturday.

"I was not commenting and I will not comment on the wisdom of making a decision to put a mosque there," Obama told reporters while visiting the Gulf Coast. "I was commenting very specifically on the right people have that dates back to our founding. That's what our country is about."

On Friday, Obama said he believes Muslims have the same right to practise their religion as anyone else in the country.

"That includes the right to build a place of worship and a community centre on private property in lower Manhattan, in accordance with local laws and ordinances," he said.

Read more: http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Obama+clarifies+mosque+support/3400901/story.html#ixzz0wfx2smn5
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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2010, 07:54:08 AM »

Here is a poll on CNN I thought would intrest some of you. I am surprised at the number that said yes.


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Yes
51%
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No
49%
51774

The poll is at middle of the page on the  right ,Under quick vote


http://www.cnn.com/
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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2010, 10:35:14 AM »

Here is a poll on CNN I thought would intrest some of you. I am surprised at the number that said yes.


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Yes
51%
53456
No
49%
51774

The poll is at middle of the page on the  right ,Under quick vote


http://www.cnn.com/

The poll question does not represent reality. Here is how the question should read if CNN did a 5 minute search on any NSA approved search engine:

"Do you agree that the Rockefeller, Carnegie, Rothschild and the rest of the Bilderberg mobsters should be given the power to erect a New World Order center next to Ground Zero under the cover of it being a mosque when the goal of the New World Order is to destroy the United States and all religions including Judaism, Christianity, and Islam?"
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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2010, 02:10:50 PM »

Just amazing... Imam Feisal ... He's duck out of the country....

http://www.forbes.com/2010/08/11/imam-feisal-ground-zero-mosque-malaysia-opinions-columnists-claudia-rosett.html?boxes=Homepagechannels

Mysteries Of The Absent Imam Feisal
Claudia Rosett, 08.11.10, 06:53 PM EDT

For a man whom one would hope has nothing to hide, the imam behind the Ground Zero mosque project sure has dropped out of sight. Having triggered an uproar in the U.S., Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf ducked out of the country weeks ago and, apart from a potted statement last week praising his own project, has pretty much clammed up.
...  his planned high-rise $100 million Islamic Center

In broad outline it's now confirmed that after his veiled sojourn in Malaysia, Rauf is scheduled to spend the rest of the August hosted by the U.S. State Department on a taxpayer-funded "bridge-building" tour to speak at Ramadan-related events in assorted petro-dollar hubs of the Arabian Gulf.
...  New York office of Rauf's nonprofit Cordoba Initiative foundation


http://nomosquesatgroundzero.wordpress.com/2010/05/16/ny-post-ground-zero-mosque-team-lacking-funds-amid-bookkeeping-chaos/

NY Post, May 16, 2010
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/short_on_3UhQftAjXfFZq1fNURK3BM/1

Dreams by a Muslim group to build a mosque near Ground Zero may not match its means.
The ambitious and immediately controversial proposal to create the $100 million religious and cultural center does not seem to be backed by any cash.

The American Society for Muslim Advancement, which proposed the center, has assets of less than $1 million, according to its most recent audited financial statement.

A sister organization, the Cordoba Initiative, listed assets of less than $20,000 in 2008. Its tax filings do not disclose at least $60,000 in private contributions, a Post analysis found, raising questions about where the money went.

Deep-pocketed benefactors who have supported the groups in the past include the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal’s Kingdom Foundation, the government of Qatar and the World Economic Forum. But some of the foundations have already backed away from the mosque, which is to be called Cordoba House.

Edit: Gee, I wonder where their going to get the other 99 million?
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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2010, 02:23:16 PM »

Does she say Merry Christmas Too?

http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2010/08/145916.htm
Ramadan Message - Hillary Rodham Clinton -Secretary of State
Washington, DC
August 11, 2010

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On behalf of the United States Department of State, I wish all Muslims around the world a happy and blessed Ramadan.

Ramadan is a time for self-reflection and sharing. American Muslims make valuable contributions to our country every day and millions will honor this month with acts of service and giving back to their communities.

Along with dozens of our Embassies, I will host an Iftar in Washington, DC, for Muslims and non-Muslims to join together and reflect on our common values, faith and the gifts of the past year. At our Iftar, we will also celebrate dozens of young American Muslims who are helping shape the future of our country with their energy and spirit. These young business and social entrepreneurs, academics, spiritual leaders, and other young Muslims around the world are leading the way to a new era of mutual respect and cooperation among all the citizens of our world.

During this month of peace and renewal, I wish the 1.5 billion Muslims around the world Ramadan Kareem.

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To conclude, Obama may promise "better times" for Christmas and make people believe he is going to save the world.
If this is the only Christmas present he has to offer, I'm afraid it won't do much to prevent the predicted disaster...
Oh, and by the way, have a Merry Christmas ! And don't worry : Mister O. is here to protect you

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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2010, 02:27:21 PM »

Rauf is scheduled to spend the rest of the August hosted by the U.S. State Department on a taxpayer-funded "bridge-building" tour to speak at Ramadan-related events in assorted petro-dollar hubs of the Arabian Gulf.



Wake Up, the guy is 100% New World Order. Hilary Clinton is the Secretary of State. To any lib blog who still thinks this is about Islam rather than the New World Order agenda... Hillary has a message for you:






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This is not about freedom of religion, because we all respect the right of anyone to worship according to the dictates of their conscience," US Senator John Cornyn, a Texas Republican, said on Fox News Sunday. "But I do think it's unwise... to build a mosque at the site where 3,000 Americans lost their lives as a result of a terrorist attack. And I think to me it demonstrates that Washington, the White House, the administration, the president himself seems to be disconnected from the mainstream of America." The hot-button issue has stirred raw emotions in the United States, which marks the ninth anniversary of the September 11 attacks next month, and Cornyn said he believes it might resonate with voters at the polls. "I think this is sort of the dichotomy that people sense, that they're being lectured to, not listened to, and I think that's the reason why a lot of people are very upset with Washington," he said.

Polls show a majority of Americans oppose building the mosque near Ground Zero, but they also show that a majority support the right of Muslims to build it. Senator Jack Reed, a Democrat, did not answer directly if he thought the mosque should be built, but said he supported its designed intention to provide interfaith communication and dialogue. "But it can't be there, and I don't think it should be allowed to be there, if it's going to be some type of way to undercut the truth, the reality, of 9/11... which was an attack by fanatical Muslims against the United States," he told the program

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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2010, 12:25:08 PM »

GOP seeks political gain from ground zero Islamic center issue

"A senior Republican strategist said that GOP candidates are being encouraged to talk about the issue as much as possible."

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/08/16/obama.islamic.center.politics/?hpt=C2#fbid=rOVPzWqOQ8X&wom=false
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« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2010, 03:23:16 PM »

The Cordoba House was supposed to be a monument to religious tolerance, an homage to the city in Spain where Muslims, Jews, and Christians lived together centuries ago in the midst of religious foment.

But instead of inspiring mutual respect, the center has opened deep divisions marked by vitriolic commentary, pitting Muslims against Christians, Tea Partiers against staunch liberals, and Sept. 11 families against one another.

Representative Peter T. King, a Republican, joined Mr. Lazio in calling for an investigation into the financing of the project. But Andrew M. Cuomo, Mr. Lazio’s Democratic opponent and the state’s attorney general, has rebuffed those requests.

Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg has strongly endorsed the project, arguing that it is not the role of government to meddle in religious and business affairs.

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My hypothesis is that this mosque issue is staged to bring out three feelings in the general populus:

1. To get americans both left and right to feel some new animosity toward muslims and muslim people as a whole.

2. To inject elements of the "official 9/11 story" back into the national consiousness.

3. Iran pregame.


Islamic Center Backers Won't Rule Out Taking Funds from Saudi Arabia, Iran
'Ground Zero Mosque' Developers in Talks With NY Gov. Paterson

http://abcnews.go.com/US/Politics/islamic-center-backers-rule-taking-funds-saudi-arabia/story?id=11429998

The developers behind the Islamic center planned for a site near Ground Zero  won't rule out accepting financing from the Mideast -- including from Saudi Arabia and Iran -- as they begin searching for $100 million needed to build the project.

This story in not so many words implies that the Mosque will be funded by the terrorists...


'Ground Zero Mosque' Imam Helped FBI With Counterterrorism Efforts
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/17/ground-zero-imam-helped-f_n_685071.html

For some reason this story isn't opening for me to cut/paste a section but it implies that the head Imam of the Mosque worked with the FBI on counterterrorism...i.e....HE WORKS FOR THEM ANYWAY.
   
      
Ted Olson, Former Bush Solicitor General And Husband Of 9/11 Victim, Backs Obama On 'Ground Zero Mosque'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/18/liz-cheneys-keep-america-_n_686697.html

OKAY so the lawyer that just recently got his respect from the Left (which is why huffpo is shilling him now) back for arguing the Prop 8 in california, Won Bush/gore at the supreme and husband of Barbara Olsen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_2HsqxuUH4) who died on 911 at the pentagon is the end all...be all republican view on this...oh an Obama is right.
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2. To inject elements of the "official 9/11 story" back into the national consiousness.

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« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2010, 05:13:48 PM »

Ted Olsens back ffs....he is on front page of huffpost...it is sickening.

The the neocons already made their friggin video on it too.
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« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2010, 05:18:07 PM »

Come on people...you can all get behind a good ol fashioned holy war can't you?  Notice the cross, ...keywords Fight/kill/mosque

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjGJPPRD3u0

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The Cordoba House symbolism:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Mosque_of_C%C3%B3rdoba

The Great Mosque of Córdoba, now known as the Catedral de Nuestra Señora de la Asunción (English: Cathedral of Our Lady of the Assumption) was a mosque built by the Umayyads on the site of a Christian Visigothic Church[1] in the Andalusian city of Córdoba, Spain.
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After the Spanish Reconquista, it was rebuilt as Roman Catholic church with a Gothic cathedral inserted into the centre of the large Moorish building. Today the entire building is used to house the Cathedral of the diocese of Córdoba in Spain.
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The building was begun in approximately AD 600 as the Christian Visigothic church of St. Vincent.[2]

After the Islamic conquest of the Visigothic kingdom the Emir Abd ar-Rahman I bought the church.[3] Abd ar-Rahman I and his descendants reworked it over two centuries to refashion it as a mosque,...

You cannot get past the false left-right paradim, the organizations involved:

Yup, it's on their own websites, he speaks there because they fund him.....

Who is behind this project? The project calls for a 13-story community center including a mosque, performing art center, gym, swimming pool and other public spaces.

It is a collaboration between the American Society for Muslim Advancement and the Cordoba Initiative

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/06/new.york.ground.zero.mosque/index.html
American Society for Muslim Advancement
BOARD MEMBERS
 
Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf

Founder of ASMA and Chairman of Cordoba Initiative.
http://www.asmasociety.org/home/p_people.html
   
Our Supporters: U.S. Foundations
    * Carnegie Corporation of New York
    * Rockefeller Brothers
    * Rockefeller Philanthropy
    * Rockefeller Brothers Fund
    * Global Fund for Women
    * William & Mary Greve Foundation
    * The Sister Fund
    * The Russell Family Foundation
    * Danny Kaye & Sylvia Fine Foundation
    * Graham Charitable Foundation
    * Deak Family Foundation
    * Henry Luce Foundation
    * The Elizabeth Foundation
    * The Ms. Foundation
    * Hunt Alternatives


Founder and Visionary
Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf


Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf is Chairman of Cordoba Initiative, having founded the organization in 2004.
In 1997, he founded the American Society for Muslim Advancement(ASMA)
Imam Feisal has appeared regularly at the Council on Foreign Relations and the World Economic Forum
http://www.cordobainitiative.org/?q=content/staff-bios

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« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2010, 05:22:54 PM »

Come on people...you can all get behind a good ol fashioned holy war can't you?  Notice the cross, ...keywords Fight/kill/mosque

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjGJPPRD3u0


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« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2010, 06:30:53 PM »

Bingo!


Problem for the elites is that anyone with 2 brain cells firing and off of their daily dose of fluoride can see that the people building the fake anti-islamic "mosque" are likely the same people who should be investigated for the crimes on 9/11...

    * Carnegie Corporation of New York
    * Rockefeller Brothers
    * Rockefeller Philanthropy
    * Rockefeller Brothers Fund
    * Global Fund for Women
    * William & Mary Greve Foundation
    * The Sister Fund
    * The Russell Family Foundation
    * Danny Kaye & Sylvia Fine Foundation
    * Graham Charitable Foundation
    * Deak Family Foundation
    * Henry Luce Foundation
    * The Elizabeth Foundation
    * The Ms. Foundation
    * Hunt Alternatives

The elites just love creating powder kegs everywhere and then they froth at the mouths when the fireworks start.
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« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2010, 06:51:58 PM »

Ted Olsens back ffs....he is on front page of huffpost...it is sickening.

Deja vu?

A powerful propaganda device. People won't remember Olsen, just the name, and he'll be plastered all over CNN for a week or two or however long it takes to implant their crappola into the human mind.

Odd, too, that this "mosque" is a hi rise building. Seems a little insulting. Why don't they just move it a few blocks away?

Speaking from a people point of view. I'm sure if you asked a hundred Muslim New Yorkers, from all parts of the city, that 90% would agree that the choice of location is a little tasteless.

Clearly a distraction.
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« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2010, 07:14:55 PM »

Ted Olsens back ffs....he is on front page of huffpost...it is sickening.

The the neocons already made their friggin video on it too.

Ted Olson?

Well that makes sense:

"It's easy to imagine an infinite number of situations where the government might legitimately give out false information"

"It's an unfortunate reality that the issuance of incomplete information and even misinformation by government may sometimes be perceived as necessary to protect vital interests."


Ted Olson to the United States Supreme Court March, 2002
http://www.citizenreviewonline.org/mar_2002/lying_to_the_public_okay.htm
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Come on people...you can all get behind a good ol fashioned holy war can't you?  Notice the cross, ...keywords Fight/kill/mosque

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjGJPPRD3u0




Quite a piece of propaganda - by "The Republican National Trust PAC"... and who are those guys anyway?
Well, for one thing, in spite of the name (which conjures images of a large organization), it seems to be one guy:

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Staff
Scott Wheeler Executive Director
http://nationalrepublicantrust.com/staff.html

Scott Wheeler is a former television producer and investigative journalist. As a writer he has focused on domestic and international security issues. Mr. Wheeler has produced seventeen television documentaries and consulted on more than a dozen others. For the past eight years Mr. Wheeler has been on the forefront of the most crucial issues facing national security - from the war zones in Yugoslavia, to the drug fields of South America and following the trails of international arms smugglers to Canada, Europe and the Middle East. Mr. Wheeler is a veteran of the U.S. Army infantry.
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Rather ambiguous description - could be anyone; could be CIA, could be Average Joe (note the distinctly non-ethnic name - couldn't be Stan Adamanski, or Kevin O'Hara, or Lenny Lipshitz),  ... or it could well be a psuedoperson with a pseudowebsite concocted by someone at RAND; a front designed to manage the conversation - control the dialog about the proposed mosque.

The fact is, we don't really know who's behind this at all; but we can see who benefits. The people with everything to gain by producing this disgusting transparent piece of propaganda trash are the same people who perpetrated the 911 kick-off for the PNAC.

I think chrisfromchi had it right:

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My hypothesis is that this mosque issue is staged to bring out three feelings in the general populus:

1. To get americans both left and right to feel some new animosity toward muslims and muslim people as a whole.

2. To inject elements of the "official 9/11 story" back into the national consiousness.

3. Iran pregame.

The video plays to left/right paradigm; it injects images of 911, including the most horrific imaginable, and is an attempt to rekindle the 'shock and awe' of 911. The "Iran pregame" is underway: get mad at Muslims everyone because we're about to genocide more of them. And when we're mad as hell we'll kill every one of them without asking why.

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Ted Olson?

Well that makes sense:

"It's easy to imagine an infinite number of situations where the government might legitimately give out false information"

"It's an unfortunate reality that the issuance of incomplete information and even misinformation by government may sometimes be perceived as necessary to protect vital interests."


Ted Olson to the United States Supreme Court March, 2002
http://www.citizenreviewonline.org/mar_2002/lying_to_the_public_okay.htm

The second quote seems to surmise (technically) that it's unfortunate that people can be manipulated by government. Any grammar nazis in the house?
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My hypothesis is that this mosque issue is staged to bring out three feelings in the general populus:

1. To get americans both left and right to feel some new animosity toward muslims and muslim people as a whole.

2. To inject elements of the "official 9/11 story" back into the national consiousness.

3. Iran pregame.

That's a pretty good list.
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The second quote seems to surmise (technically) that it's unfortunate that people can be manipulated by government. Any grammar nazis in the house?

Wow, hmmm. Never thought of it that way. Gonna look over some of his other stuff.
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« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2010, 09:34:58 AM »

Some Muslims question mosque near ground zero

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_ground_zero_mosque_us_muslims

By RACHEL ZOLL, AP Religion Writer – Wed Aug 18, 6:48 pm ET

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NEW YORK – American Muslims who support the proposed mosque and Islamic center near ground zero are facing skeptics within their own faith — those who argue that the project is insensitive to Sept. 11 victims and needlessly provocative at a time when Muslims are pressing for wider acceptance in the U.S.

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Neda Bolourchi of Los Angeles, a native of Iran whose mother was on one of the planes that crashed into the World Trade Center, opposes the plan.

"I fear that over time, it will cultivate a fundamentalist version of the Muslim faith, embracing those who share such beliefs and hating those who do not," she wrote in a Washington Post op-ed. "To the supporters of this new Islamic cultural center, I must ask: Build your ideological monument somewhere else, far from my mother's grave, and let her rest."
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An interesting Grouping:

http://www.cfr.org/about/outreach/religioninitiative/advisory_board.html
CFR - Religious Advisory Committee

The CFR Religious Advisory Committee is comprised of a distinguished group of religious and congregational leaders and scholars from across the United States.

Salam Al-Marayati, Muslim Public Affairs Council, Los Angeles, CA
Madeleine K. Albright, The Albright Group LLC, Washington, DC Interesting on how religious she is?
R. Scott Appleby, Joan B. Kroc Institute for International Peace Studies, Notre Dame, IN
Reza Aslan, University of California Riverside, Los Angeles, CA
Peter L. Berger, Boston University, Brookline, MA
Charles E. Blake Sr., The Church of God in Christ, Inc., Los Angeles, CA
Chloe A. Breyer, The Interfaith Center of New York, New York, NY
Jean B. Elshtain, University of Chicago, Chicago, IL
C. Welton Gaddy, The Interfaith Alliance, Washington, DC
Marc Gopin, George Mason University, Arlington, VA
Kenneth F. Hackett, Catholic Relief Services, Baltimore, MD
J. Bryan Hehir, Harvard University, Wellesley, MA
Serene Jones, Union Theological Seminary, New York, NY
Michael A. Kinnamon, National Council of Churches of Christ of the USA, New York, NY
Antonios Kireopoulos, The National Council of Churches, New York, NY
Leonid Kishkovsky, World Conference of Religions for Peace, Sea Cliff, NY
Richard D. Land, Southern Baptist Convention, Nashville, TN
Luis E. Lugo, The Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life, Washington, DC
Paul Marshall, Hudson Institute, Washington, DC
Ruth Messinger, American Jewish World Service, New York, NY
Joel Meyers, Rabbinical Assembly, New York, NY
Mark A. Noll, University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame, IN
Eboo Patel, Interfaith Youth Core, Chicago, IL
Feisal Abdul Rauf, Cordoba Initiative, New York, NY
Olin C. Robison, Oxford University, Shelburne, VT
David Saperstein, Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism, Washington, DC
Arthur Schneier, Appeal of Conscience Foundation, New York, NY
Chris Seiple, Institute for Global Engagement, Arlington, VA
Donald W. Shriver Jr., Union Theological Seminary, New York, NY
Richard Stearns, World Vision, Federal Way, WA
Peter Steinfels, Fordham Center on Religion and Culture, New York, NY
Robert A. F. Thurman, Columbia University, New York, NY
William F. Vendley, World Conference of Religions for Peace, New York, NY
Jim Wallis, Sojourners, Washington, DC
Peter D. Weaver, United Methodist Church, Lawrence, MA
Gloria E. White-Hammond, My Sister's Keeper, Jamaica Plain, MA
Robert S. Wood, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, Salt Lake City, UT

http://a12iggymom.vox.com/library/post/exposing-the-real-imam-feisal-abdul-rauf.html?_c=feed-atom

Rauf's father Dr. Muhammad Abdul Rauf (1917-2004), was an Egyptian contemporary of Muslim Brotherhood (MB) founder Hassan al-Banna
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In 1948, Rauf's father fled Egypt, during its first MB crackdown; Feisal was born in Kuwait. 3

In 1965, Feisal's father left Malaysia for New York City to stealthily buy two thirds of an E. 96th Street block for an Islamic “personal trust,” revealing its $1.3 million Islamic money from Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Libya only after construction of the MB mosque began in 1984. 4

Likewise, 46 Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) nations funded the $17 million Islamic Cultural Center, only after its 1992 opening did Rauf's father reveal that funding source or admit his long-term plans for discriminatory Muslim-only housing for the Islamic complex. 5

CFR Salam Al-Marayati VS. CFR Newt Gingrich:

CFR - Salam Al-Marayati, Muslim Public Affairs Council, Los Angeles, CA

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/salam-al-marayati/anti-muslim-is-anti-ameri_b_660520.html
Anti-Muslim Is Anti-American
Salam Al Marayati President of the Muslim Public Affairs Council--DC
Posted: July 27, 2010 12:43 PM
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The anti-Muslim rage-aholics, however, feel that Islam cannot exist within America's pluralism. Ironically, their view is shared by Al-Qaeda -- making right-wing groups and former Republican speaker of the House Newt Gingrich closer to the Al-Qaeda narrative than the local Muslim communities they are fiercely protesting. The vitriol from these anti-Muslim groups plays right into the hands of Al-Qaeda, a group that works tirelessly to prove that America is at war with Islam.

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/07/22/2010-07-22_newt_gingrich_comes_out_against_planned_cordoba_house_mosque_near_ground_zero.html

Newt Gingrich comes out against planned Cordoba House mosque near Ground Zero
Thursday, July 22nd 2010, 10:01 AM
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"The time for double standards that allow Islamists to behave aggressively toward us while they demand our weakness and submission is over," Gingrich wrote.

"America is experiencing an Islamist cultural-political offensive designed to undermine and destroy our civilization."

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1402
SALAM AL-MARAYATI

Founder of the Muslim Public Affairs Council
Accused Israelis of responsibility for the 9/11 attacks
Hamas and Hezbollah sympathizer
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On the afternoon of September 11, 2001, Al-Marayati used a Los Angeles talk radio program as a forum in which to accuse the Israelis of responsibility for that morning's attacks on New York and Washington. Al-Marayati has also called for the U.S. government to unfreeze the assets of two Islamic charities, the Global Relief Foundation and the Holy Land Foundation, that were shut down by the government because of funding they had given to terrorist organizations.

http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=about_us.display_staff&staff=Wallis
Jim Wallis is a bestselling author, public theologian, speaker, and international commentator on ethics and public life. He been named to serve on the White House Advisory Council on Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships. His latest book is Rediscovering Values: On Wall Street, Main Street, and Your Street — A Moral Compass for the New Economy. His two previous books, The Great Awakening: Reviving Faith & Politics in a Post–Religious Right America and God’s Politics: Why the Right Gets It Wrong and the Left Doesn’t Get It were both New York Times bestsellers. He is President and CEO of Sojourners;
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Jim lives in Washington, D.C. with his wife, Joy Carroll, one of the first women ordained in the Church of England and author of Beneath the Cassock: The Real-life Vicar of Dibley; and their young sons, Luke and Jack. He is a Little League baseball coach.

Visit Jim Wallis and Sojourners at their website www.Sojo.net and read his daily blog at www.GodsPolitics.com .

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« Reply #33 on: August 19, 2010, 03:48:26 PM »

Dig - so are you saying this whole Ground Zero Mosque nonsense was nothing but propaganda by the NWO to deceive the public in other areas, for example, deceive everyone into thinking it was all Obama's idea, hence convincing everyone that he's indeed pro-Muslim et al?

The reason why I'm asking is because on a couple of end times "Christian" MBs I view every now and then, they don't really see this false left/right paradigm, and pretty much fall for everything John Hagee and Hal Lindsey saw(ie-both pretty much say that it's Obama, and Obama only that's leading us into the path of the antichrist/7 year tribulation because of his pro-Muslim beliefs, resulting in turning our backs on Israel, which is why judgement is coming on this nation).
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« Reply #34 on: August 19, 2010, 04:02:22 PM »

Dig - so are you saying this whole Ground Zero Mosque nonsense was nothing but propaganda by the NWO to deceive the public in other areas, for example, deceive everyone into thinking it was all Obama's idea, hence convincing everyone that he's indeed pro-Muslim et al?

There are many reasons for it, but it has little to do with Obama/Soetoro. It is a New World Order center funded by Carnegie, Rockefeller, Luce foundations (eugenecists). It is most likely a theosophian community center to promote the corporatistic religion which teaches how to be good slaves to the New World Order.

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The reason why I'm asking is because on a couple of end times "Christian" MBs I view every now and then, they don't really see this false left/right paradigm, and pretty much fall for everything John Hagee and Hal Lindsey saw(ie-both pretty much say that it's Obama, and Obama only that's leading us into the path of the antichrist/7 year tribulation because of his pro-Muslim beliefs, resulting in turning our backs on Israel, which is why judgement is coming on this nation).

I highly recommend you stop visiting those sites. It is beneath you.



I also agree with chrisfromchi's expert analysis...

My hypothesis is that this mosque issue is staged to bring out three feelings in the general populus:

1. To get americans both left and right to feel some new animosity toward muslims and muslim people as a whole.

2. To inject elements of the "official 9/11 story" back into the national consiousness.

3. Iran pregame.


Islamic Center Backers Won't Rule Out Taking Funds from Saudi Arabia, Iran
'Ground Zero Mosque' Developers in Talks With NY Gov. Paterson

http://abcnews.go.com/US/Politics/islamic-center-backers-rule-taking-funds-saudi-arabia/story?id=11429998

The developers behind the Islamic center planned for a site near Ground Zero  won't rule out accepting financing from the Mideast -- including from Saudi Arabia and Iran -- as they begin searching for $100 million needed to build the project.

This story in not so many words implies that the Mosque will be funded by the terrorists...


'Ground Zero Mosque' Imam Helped FBI With Counterterrorism Efforts
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/17/ground-zero-imam-helped-f_n_685071.html

For some reason this story isn't opening for me to cut/paste a section but it implies that the head Imam of the Mosque worked with the FBI on counterterrorism...i.e....HE WORKS FOR THEM ANYWAY.
   
      
Ted Olson, Former Bush Solicitor General And Husband Of 9/11 Victim, Backs Obama On 'Ground Zero Mosque'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/18/liz-cheneys-keep-america-_n_686697.html

OKAY so the lawyer that just recently got his respect from the Left (which is why huffpo is shilling him now) back for arguing the Prop 8 in california, Won Bush/gore at the supreme and husband of Barbara Olsen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_2HsqxuUH4) who died on 911 at the pentagon is the end all...be all republican view on this...oh an Obama is right.
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« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2010, 10:33:55 PM »

Since Albright is also one of the Nato Wise Men -  she would be helping with scenario planning for war with Iran... Is the coordination between CFR members part of this? No it couldn't be.



An interesting Grouping:

http://www.cfr.org/about/outreach/religioninitiative/advisory_board.html
CFR - Religious Advisory Committee

The CFR Religious Advisory Committee is comprised of a distinguished group of religious and congregational leaders and scholars from across the United States.

Salam Al-Marayati, Muslim Public Affairs Council, Los Angeles, CA
Madeleine K. Albright, The Albright Group LLC, Washington, DC Interesting on how religious she is?
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Luis E. Lugo, The Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life, Washington, DC Sun Oil  Sunoco

see: Pew Trusts - Sunoco - Seagrams - HSBC - Business Connections  
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Feisal Abdul Rauf, Cordoba Initiative, New York, NY
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Richard Stearns, World Vision, Federal Way, WA

Madeleine Albright confronted on Bilderberg & New World Order Crimes  


Nato's "12 Wise Men" are getting ready to redefine NATO's Mission....as defined by Bilderberg's Korbel-Albright and Queen Beatrix 's RDS Jeroen van der Veer

http://www.armtown.com/news/en/pan/20090804/35078/
NATO WISE MEN TO DEVELOP NEW STRATEGIC PLAN
August 04, 2009

A former Turkish diplomat will become a member of the "Wise Men" committee of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) that will be assigned with preparing a new strategic plan for the alliance.

Retired ambassador Umit Pamir, who had also been Turkey's permanent representative to NATO in the past, will be one of the 12 wise men who will give shape to NATO's new "Strategic Concept".

The Wise Men Group will be headed by former U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, while former head of Royal Dutch Shell Jeroen van der Veer will act as the vice-chairman of the committee.

Apart from Pamir, Britain's former Defense Minister Geoff Hoon, head of the French National Library Bruno Racine, Italian ambassador Giancarlo Aragona, Canadian ambassador Marie Gervais-Vidricaire, Spanish ambassador Fernando Perpina-Robert Peyra, German ambassador Hans-Friedrich von Ploetz, Latvian ambassador Aivis Ronis, Greek ambassador Yannis-Alexis Zepos and Polish professor Adam Daniel Rotfeld will be the other members of the group.

NATO SG Anders Fogh Rasmussen said that the existing Strategic Concept of the alliance should be updated in a way that would include new threats such as asymmetric terrorism, Turkish Press reported. ...

In this report, Not one mention of Iran: purposely?

http://www.realclearworld.com/articles/2010/03/01/nato_must_reassure_nervous_allies_98828.html
NATO Must Reassure Nervous Allies - March 1, 2010  
By A. Wess Mitchell & Robert Kron

As Madeleine Albright and the "Group of Wise Men" prepare to unveil a revised NATO Strategic Concept, attention is again focused on growing tensions in the East. The space between NATO and Russia appears to be entering a new era of geopolitical competition and instability.
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insecure allies are less likely to support out-of-area U.S. and NATO military missions. On a per-capita basis, Central European states have been some of the most generous contributors to U.S. and NATO operations, most recently in Afghanistan.
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Powers such as Israel and Taiwan both depend on the United States as an off-shore security benefactor and closely monitor Washington's relationships in Central and Eastern Europe for cues on the reliability of the U.S. security link.
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A. Wess Mitchell is President of the Center for European Policy Analysis (CEPA) in Washington, D.C. Robert Kron is a Research Associate at CEPA.

http://www.voltairenet.org/article164065.html
NATO Expansion, Missile Deployments And Russia’s New Military Doctrine
by Rick Rozoff*
15 February 2010
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Concurrently, on the pretext of responding to an ostensible threat from Iran, NATO is deploying an interceptor nuclear missile system on Russia’s borders which overturns the strategic balance with Moscow and calls into question the principle of progressive nuclear disarmament. Russia, on its part, feels directly targeted and is taking urgent measures to revamp its alliances and put its armament programmes back on track.

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In doing so he echoed Russian ambassador to NATO Dmitry Rogozin who two days before said “U.S. plans to base a missile-defense system in eastern Europe are a pretext to encroach on Russia’s borders” and “The U.S. is using Iran’s actions to globalize its system of missile defense.” [21]
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The more the U.S. and its NATO allies thunder against alleged Iranian threats, the tighter the Western interceptor missile cordon is secured around Russia.



Madeleine Albright (leader of NATO ‘Group of Wise Men‘) and Admiral Giampaolo Di Paola (Chairman of the NATO Military Committee) before presenting the Organization’s new strategic concept.

Pew forum:
http://www.pewtrusts.org/news_room_detail.aspx?id=22482
Luis Lugo Named Director of Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life ...
“Religion has been a primary focus of the Trusts’ philanthropy for more than half a century", said Rebecca W. Rimel, president and CEO of The Pew Charitable Trusts.
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The Forum--which was established in 2000 through a grant from the Trusts to Georgetown University [ CIA intelligence Center] --plans to continue building on its work in religion and domestic policy while significantly expanding its efforts in religion and world affairs, including U.S. foreign policy.

http://pewforum.org/Pew-Forum/Pew-Forum-Experts/Luis-E--Lugo.aspx
LUIS E. LUGO became the director of the Pew Research Center's Forum on Religion & Public Life in January 2004. Prior to joining the Pew Forum, he served as the director of the Religion program at The Pew Charitable Trusts in Philadelphia, a position he held for seven years. Before joining the Trusts, he was a professor of political science for more than 12 years, teaching courses in international relations, Latin American politics, and religion and public policy.

After studying at the University of Memphis (B.A.) and Villanova University (M.A.), he took his Ph.D. in political science at the University of Chicago. Among his published works are several edited volumes, including Religion, Public Life and the American Polity and Sovereignty at the Crossroads? Morality and International Politics in the Post-Cold War Era.

A native of Cuba, he is listed in Who's Who Among Hispanic Americans. He is married and has three children.


http://rickrozoff.wordpress.com/2010/08/11/central-asia-u-s-military-buildup-on-chinese-iranian-and-russian-borders/
August 11, 2010
Central Asia: U.S. Military Buildup On Chinese, Iranian And Russian Borders
Rick Rozoff

On August 4 the chairman of the NATO Military Committee, Italian Admiral Giampaolo Di Paola, concluded an official visit to Australia during which he met with the nation’s acting Chief of Defence and officials from the Department of Defence. The North Atlantic Treaty Organization, despite its name, has strayed far from its point of origin 61 years ago, extending its grasp from North America and Western Europe to Asia and the South Pacific.

Di Paola’s deliberations with his Australian counterparts centered on “the need for NATO to work together with strategic partners like Australia, given that Euro-Atlantic security is more and more interconnected to Euro-Asian and Asian-Pacific regions.”
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“In this new context, because of the vulnerabilities created by globalization and the rapid pace at which it occurred, it is all the more essential for us to maintain global connectivity if we are to successfully tackle 21st Century challenges and trends.”

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« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2010, 11:31:00 PM »

I think this might end up hurting the goals of the propagandists. Reinjecting the muslim 9/11 spectre might backfire on them because people may be far enough removed emotionally to take a fresh objective look at 9/11.  I have been using the mosque posts to interject 9/11 truth,  we should use this against them best we can.
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« Reply #37 on: August 20, 2010, 10:59:41 AM »

infowars.com story: Who Is Insanity on our site?

http://www.infowars.com/neocons-shamelessly-exploit-911-pain-to-ban-manhattan-mosque/
Neocons Shamelessly Exploit 9/11 Pain to Ban Manhattan Mosque
Kurt Nimmo Infowars.com
August 19, 2010

Keep America Safe, a propaganda organization designed to keep the manufactured war on terror alive, has produced a tear-jerk video featuring victim families and heart-tug piano music. The victims urge Muslims not to build a multi-million dollar mosque less than two blocks from the Ground Zero.

Kristol recently founded PNAC 2.0, the Foreign Policy Initiative, an organization claiming “robust support for America’s democratic allies and opposition to rogue regimes that threaten American interests,” in other words Muslim countries that stand in the way of the neocon and Israeli project in the Middle East.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=The_Foreign_Policy_Initiative

Kristol and Cheney should be ashamed of themselves for producing the video below that exploits the pain of 9/11 victim families. But then sociopaths and psychopaths never experience shame.
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Insanity Says:  August 19th, 2010 at 9:36 am
Too bad the CFR is FUNDING THE MOSQUE! Yeah, Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Elliott Abrams, Vin Weber, John R. Bolton, General Colin L. Powell, Condoleezza Rice, and Robert Zoellick who are all NEOCONS (and most of whom signed the PNAC document). Then you have…

General David H. Petraeus, Secretary of Defense Robert M. Gates, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Timothy F. Geithner, Paul Volcker, Henry M. Paulson, Jr. who are all pulling Obama’s strings right now.

Ground zero mosque is being proposed by ASMA and the Cordoba Initiative, founded and chaired by Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf of the CFR Religious Advisory Council. ASMA alone is funded by the Carnegie Corporation of New York, the Ford Foundation, Rockefeller Brothers, Rockefeller Philanthropy, and the Rockefeller Brothers Fund.

All of this can be found directly on the Cordoba Initiative’s website, the ASMA’s website and the CFR’s website.

So as sick as this is, above, its sicker yet when they are protesting the mosque they are building themselves!

Insanity Reply:  August 19th, 2010 at 9:38 am

So you mean to tell me these Neo-cons, and Obama’s entire cabinet, none of them know the CFR is funding their “Imam” to build it? Give me a break. Such theater, so brazen, America must be brain dead already – maybe it is too late. It took me 5 minutes to check who was funding the mosque.

Insanity Reply: August 20th, 2010 at 8:40 am

Building the “Ground Zero Mosque” is the Cordoba Initiative and the American Society for Muslim Advancement (ASMA) which was founded and chaired by “Imam” Faisal Abdul Rauf. His ASMA organization if funded by the following organizations (can be found on their official website):

* Carnegie Corporation of New York (Chaired by CFR member Thomas H. Kean)
* Rockefeller Brothers
* Rockefeller Philanthropy
* Rockefeller Brothers Fund (Chaired by CFR member Stephen B. Heintz)
* Global Fund for Women
* William & Mary Greve Foundation
* The Sister Fund
* The Russell Family Foundation
* Danny Kaye & Sylvia Fine Foundation
* Graham Charitable Foundation
* Deak Family Foundation
* Henry Luce Foundation
* The Elizabeth Foundation
* The Ms. Foundation
* Hunt Alternatives ….

The Hunt Alternative has an interesting list of “Prime Movers”

Daisy Khan (of the ASMA itself)
Van Jones (Green for All)
Jim Wallis (Sojourners publication, CFR Religious Advisory Comittee)

Jim Wallis not only works within a financial supporter of the ASMA, but also published moral “Christian” support for it in his Sojourners publication, in a piece titled “In Support of the Cordoba House.”


The Carnegie Corporation also has almost every other “member” co-members of the CFR, from environmentalist “scientists like CFR member Ralph J. Cicerone of the Academy of National Science to people like CFR member Norman Pearlstine of Bloomberg, to CFR member Thomas R. Pickering of Boeing Corporation.

Are you trying to tell me President “Obama” doesn’t know what the CFR is doing that it is behind the mosque??? Yet he plays stupid and lies to everyone’s face as if this is a legitimate issue to be debated? And all the neo-con trash, as members of the CFR have no clue their own organization is funding it? The Foreign Policy Initiative, neo-conservative organization, is openly against the Ground Zero Mosque, yet Robert Kagan is on the Initiative’s board of directors and a CFR member – Jamie Fly is executive director of the Initiative, also a CFR member, Ellen Bork, Initiative director, CFR member,

Are you kidding me???

You aren’t going to salvage a system that is so corrupt they can stage theater on this scale. We need to completely replace it at the local level. I mean, EVERYTHING from education, to electricity and fuel, to water, food, manufacturing etc.

Judging by people’s reaction to this story, I would say, at this late hour, far too many people are clueless and we really don’t stand a chance of organizing locally when too many people are still grooming their pet paradigms on a national, religious, and global level and can allow a stunt like this to pass by them without even so much as a whimper.

Insanity Reply: August 20th, 2010 at 4:33 am

No problem, make sure you also have the official websites, perhaps even screen grabs, of the Cordoba Initiative’s “partner’s section,” ASMA’s “About Us” “Our Supporters: U.S. Foundations” and a print out of the CFR’s Religious Advisory Committee with both “Imam” Faisal Abdul Rauf’s name on it and Jim Wallis’ name.

The CFR also has a complete list of politicians, you could use a red highlighter for “neo-con” trash on the Council, and a blue highlighter for “liberal progressive” trash to illustrate what a fraud it all is. I’d put stars next to PNAC signatories and maybe even print that out too. When they throw empty rhetoric at you, just throw that stack of evidence back. The fact that they will always be empty handed, or need to defer to attacks on ancient scriptures based on their own interpretations will expose them as either cognitively dissonant or shills.

Insanity Reply:  August 20th, 2010 at 12:01 am

Laura, first off, the Bible has plenty of blood stained, war cries itself. Both books are ancient, and you are taking everything, as usual out of context. Instead of burying your head in the bible, then burying both in the sand, look at the facts.

Google: “The “Ground Zero Mosque:” Why you should really be angry …” It is CFR funded up one side and down the other. Intentional provocation to create this sort of debate, where in reality, there is no debate and REAL Muslims would never do something this stupid in the fist place.

The “Imam” proposing the Cordoba House (real name of the Ground Zero Mosque) is on the CFR Religious Advisory Committee. He is chair and fonder of the Cordoba Initiative and ASMA (American Society for Muslim Advancement) which is funded by the Carnegie Corporation of New York, the Ford Foundation, Rockefeller Brothers, Rockefeller Philanthropy, and the Rockefeller Brothers Fund.

All the biggest globalists are all part of these funding organizations, on both the Neo-con and Liberal side (because they are on the SAME side) and this debate is ABSOLUTE, COMPLETE, AND UTTER THEATER.

The CFR of course is host to various, war profiteering globalist scum such as

Bank of America Goldman Sachs Chevron Corporation Exxon Mobil Corporation General Electric Company
JPMorgan Chase & Company Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co.  Lockheed Martin Corporation
Morgan Stanley Shell Oil Company Rockefeller Group International, Inc. The Blackstone Group L.P.
Boeing Company DynCorp International KBR Raytheon Company Rothschild North America, Inc.

KBR and DynCorp being the two biggest profiteers of the wars.

So, like 9/11, the London bombings, Madrid bombings, the Lavon Affair, the USS Liberty, Iraqi WMD’s, Iran’s perceived threat to the world, AFGHANISTAN’s perceived threat to the world, etc etc etc etc, this mosque is just another in a long line of MANUFACTURED, intel operation contrived hoaxes. Radical Islam is manufactured by the globalist elite, not “combining.” Real Islam, is a religion of BILLIONS, and has nothing to do with any of this.

And just like most sane people don’t believe the earth was created in 7 days as Genesis suggests, most sane people don’t take literally the passages in the Koran – except at globalist foundation funded terrorist training camps pumping out a steady stream of bogeymen for our soldiers to perpetually fight as the CFR’s corporate roster continues to make TRILLIONS and consolidate their hold over the world through the draconian, inhumane control grid police state.

Insanity Reply: August 20th, 2010 at 12:09 am

Yeah look up the Cordoba Initiative and its co-organization ASMA Society and see that the whole think is being run by Faisal Abdul Rauf of the CFR Religious Advisory Council. ASMA alone is funded by the Carnegie Corporation of New York, the Ford Foundation, Rockefeller Brothers, Rockefeller Philanthropy, and the Rockefeller Brothers Fund.

So the whole think is a globalist operation, to give the perception that Islam is an intrusive, subversive, ill-intentioned plot to destroy Western society, when in reality it is being perpetrated by a REAL NWO plot to subvert and destroy Western society.

Surely though Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Elliott Abrams, Vin Weber, John R. Bolton, General Colin L. Powell, Condoleezza Rice, Robert Zoellick General David H. Petraeus, Secretary of Defense Robert M. Gates, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Timothy F. Geithner, Paul Volcker, and Henry M. Paulson, Jr, individual members of the CFR, and the war profiteering corporate scum such as KBR and DynCorp all THANK YOU sincerely for your continued ignorance and silent support for their agenda to destroy both America and Islam in one elegant thrust.

Keep up the hate, keep up the blind ignorance, keep up the knee-jerk reactions instead of researching everything yourself – you are a true patriot!

Prisonplanet.com video story:
 http://www.prisonplanet.com/ground-zero-mosque-imam-america-is-%E2%80%9Csharia-compliant-state%E2%80%9D.html

Ground Zero Mosque Imam: America is “Sharia Compliant State”
CSPAN Aug 20, 2010

In a 2004 lecture on his book “What is Right With Islam”, Feisal Abdul Rauf discusses how Sharia law is very similar to the founding principals of America.

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« Reply #38 on: August 20, 2010, 12:17:24 PM »

My hypothesis is that this mosque issue is staged to bring out three feelings in the general populus:

1. To get americans both left and right to feel some new animosity toward muslims and muslim people as a whole.

2. To inject elements of the "official 9/11 story" back into the national consiousness.

3. Iran pregame.


Don't forget it's a direct attack on the Constitution. It puts Americans who are against the principle of this Mosque in direct opposition to the Constitution. They are putting us on a slippery slope.

PS It's threads like these that keep me coming back. Thanks guys and gals for doing the job our media should be doing.
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« Reply #39 on: August 20, 2010, 12:48:32 PM »

Don't forget it's a direct attack on the Constitution. It puts Americans who are against the principle of this Mosque in direct opposition to the Constitution. They are putting us on a slippery slope.

PS It's threads like these that keep me coming back. Thanks guys and gals for doing the job our media should be doing.

I just wish somebody would ask the obvious: What the hell do Muslims have to do with 9/11 controlled demolition anyway?

This is such a mindf*ck to the city of New York and all over the media by the same folks that brought you the dancing Israelis.
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