Psychic Harassment: Not EMF, Not microwave hearing, This is Totally Different!

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Offline anonpp

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In a recent thread, I detail experiences of remote harassment over the course of several years.

During this time, I have logged my observations and studied them objectively. Many are as described by the non-professional sources of information available online. Others are not described anywhere.

This harassment is constant. Day and night. Sleep and wake. Conscious and subconscious. The sole intent has become obvious: to interrupt my life progress to the maximum extent possible.

  • Who would go to this effort, for a 'target' with so little value to them (as I can not be), for such a period of time?

  • And where do they acquire the resources for this technology?

Not simple harassment, but a highly sophisticated attack with a specific goal, designed to wield maximum force while being subtle enough to disrupt & imitate past or present aspects of my personal life.

While I would like to answer the previous questions, one thing has become certain to me:

The basis of this harassment technology is not electromagnetic (radio) radiation.

Now several things should be noted by that statement.

  • I did not say electromagnetic harassment doesn't exist. There are government documents detailing it's use and existence.
  • I also did not say there wasn't some 'electronic' aspect. Indeed, computers are absolutely being employed in this harassment.
  • And I didn't implicate any other possibility. Although the first thing which comes to my mind probably also comes to yours.. hence the title.

So what's going on here? To say this campaign is disruptive in life is an understatement. Obviously I am not the only 'target'. And obviously, it's going to get much worse when only a tiny number of people have any real, credible knowledge of what this is.

Let the discussion, the flames begin....

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Some of the more definite things I have experienced include the sensation of being 'spit upon' - this has occurred several times, mainly while lying down thinking about the problem. I am able to make out slight visual artifacts which can be described as someone 'spitting' at my forhead. This is in combination with audible artifacts & usually accompanied by a slight spasm which can be felt around the back of my head.

Another similar experience I've had is one of a firecracker being ignited in my field of vision. This has occurred only once, again while I was lying down thinking about the problem. It was very similar in appearance to the spitting phenomenon except more prolific and accompanied by a very large popping sound.

In addition to this, I have experienced what sounds like fast paced 'drumming' and a band playing as I attempt to fall asleep.

I am well versed in psychiatric disorders and have had my health checked on many dimensions. I perform complex tasks on a regular basis, and am very confident this isn't simply a personal health problem.

what you describe sounds like EMF/RF/microwave harrassment....

http://www.bugsweeps.com/info/electronic_harassment.html
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Symptoms of Electronic Radiation Exposure

Symptoms may include but are not limited to: Headache, eye irritation, dizziness, nausea, skin rash, facial swelling, weakness, fatigue, pain in joints and/or muscles, buzzing/ringing in ears, skin numbness, abdominal pressure and pain, breathing difficulty, irregular heartbeat, sexual stimulation and hearing voices (see Patent #4,858,612). Additional symptoms have been reported in some individuals such as paralysis, balance problems, body and/or muscle spasms, convulsions, confusion,depression, difficulty in concentrating, seizure, sleep disturbances, and memory difficulties.

but these  effects are advanced these days and the stimulation is unbeliveable , not the basic crude effects described here above

microwaves can cause flashes , and other wierd vision effects

look the modern version has sythtic telepathy , broadcast to brian images/movies, create complicated sensations ...like things being inserted ware the sun don`t shine , read your mind ect....alter your mental state /emotions ect....





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also can induce DR persingers "god" helemet like experiences
Dr. Persinger's God Helmet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YPOTaUyvA0


the god helemet use weak complec EMF to induce these states.......just add a microwave hearing effect with a voice changer/morpher and you can create an  Psychic Harassment/alien abduction/demon pession effect



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Part One

Haunted House Haunted Mind Part One (partial) 1 of 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2xw4M3QBDc&feature=player_embedded



Part Two


Haunted House Haunted Mind Part Two 1 of 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrXor6s1-tA&feature=player_embedded



Haunted House Haunted Mind Part Two 2 of 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc8UcahCXHc&feature=player_embedded

Haunted House Haunted Mind Part Two 3 of 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st6KBoVktZ0&feature=player_embedded

mind control part starts at the end of part 4 then into part 5

Haunted House Haunted Mind Part Two 4 of 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbAxJ2S7YN8&feature=player_embedded

Haunted House Haunted Mind Part Two 5 of 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrthFGzPQc4&feature=player_embedded

Haunted House Haunted Mind Part Two 6 of 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ravr498Mtlo&feature=player_embedded

Part Three

Haunted House Haunted Mind Part Three 1 of 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qMdHKbVFkY&feature=player_embedded

Haunted House Haunted Mind Part Three 2 of 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOJwSmeMDMw&feature=player_embedded


Haunted House Haunted Mind Part Three 3 of 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3Wye_97pOU&feature=player_embedded


Haunted House Haunted Mind Part Three 4 of 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQvdmtunTJQ&feature=player_embedded

Haunted House Haunted Mind Part Three 5 of 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktUqXazoDYU&feature=player_embedded

Haunted House Haunted Mind Part Three 6 of 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPqrivF6UJc&feature=player_embedded




its pretty obvious that goverment agency/militray / complex have study this type of phenomena , then developed ways to target and induce these effects via technology ......how would a victim of these experience these...well TI`s don`t complian of being "haunted" but do complian of being targeted by nasty niebours (perps) making bangs, knocking sounds, hearing them laugh, walk about ect....as it admits in the bio effects microwave hearing can be applied by RADAR one would presume they are simply timing there attacks to events happning around the victim....the coming /going of niebours , cars/people passing ect....after all they have a birds eye view of the area what better way to deceive/misdirect there victim and also create conflict for the TI and discredit them be having them accuse bemused people around them and in some cases provoke retaliation in the pysical sense towards the victm.

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but these  effects are advanced these days and the stimulation is unbeliveable , not the basic crude effects described here above

look the modern version has sythtic telepathy , broadcast to brian images/movies, create complicated sensations ...like things being inserted ware the sun don`t shine , read your mind ect....alter your mental state /emotions ect....

Deca, how do you know this?

Even basic scientific knowledge is enough to realize that inducing ultra precision effects (like I've described, and more that I have not) with emf radiation (radio waves) would be essentially impossible - little more than pseudoscience.

Precision placement of sophisticated audio and physical stimuli. Sensation of a small firecracker exploding directly above my field of vision - physically, auditory, visually. A little known musical band playing an obscure song faintly - from a rear angle. Not merely voice, but various people with accents, lisps, speaking directly in response to a present activity, or loudly and disruptively while attempting to sleep (yes - that indicates a knowledge of my activity at the time, and it gets more complex than that).

And unlike the capacity of a radio wave transmitter (which is, up until now, what was being proposed by 'microwave transmission') these precise, sophisticated interactions are entirely independent of physical state - location, motion. Underground, in moving vehicles, in large radio-shielded buildings, in heavily forested areas, many miles apart, more. And yet, they remain able to interact on a full scale.

Clearly, anyone with a basic understanding can safely rule out anything to do with em transmitters. The only thing left in our history is psychic research. Little known, unproven technologies researched by our own government and individuals. Remote viewing, orgone energy, the electro-metabograph (destroyed), energy medicine & as yet little understood but none the less known to exist 'new' energy fields.

I receive many repetitive replies, but anyone can see more is occurring. It's time to consider the obvious alternative possibilities, and stop the distractions. Possibilities that we may not currently understand as well as 'radio wave transmissions', but none the less exist.

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anonpp,

For sure they have acoustic methods to broadcast sound directly into someone's "Skull & Bones" -- to put the fear of God into them if they want.  This is public knowledge.

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anonpp,

For sure they have acoustic methods to broadcast sound directly into someone's "Skull & Bones" -- to put the fear of God into them if they want.  This is public knowledge.

  • I did not say electromagnetic harassment doesn't exist. There are government documents detailing it's use and existence.

This was never in question. Therefore irrelevant to the thread.

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Acoustic is different from electronic -- uses sound itself to "broadcast" sound directly into another body.  If you were looing for an alternative method vis-a-vis electronic, I just thought this might be the means used in this case.

Wasn't trying to sidetrack the thread.

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Try here, http://www.alienresistance.org/ce4.htm

They will help you.

Perhaps that is part of the problem. People can't even believe the thread topic is possible..

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Part One

Haunted House Haunted Mind Part One (partial) 1 of 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2xw4M3QBDc&feature=player_embedded
That guy closed his eyes and saw "phosphenes", then he totally freaked out lol. His house is not haunted. He is not under psychic attack. he is experiencing "feedback" from the light sensing organs in his head. everybody can see them.
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Perhaps that is part of the problem. People can't even believe the thread topic is possible..

i believe you, and so will they.
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When you say, "not EMF", what sort of thing would you categorize as EMF harassment?


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I'm going to ask those replying to stay on topic - or I'll simply report your reply. This isn't about hauntings, and my description of the problem should automatically rule out most of the usual discussion regarding causes:

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And unlike the capacity of a radio wave transmitter (which is, up until now, what was being proposed by 'microwave transmission') these precise, sophisticated interactions are entirely independent of physical state - location, motion. Underground, in moving vehicles, in large radio-shielded buildings, in heavily forested areas, many miles apart, more. And yet, they remain able to interact on a full scale.

EMF has a standard definition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_field

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they can hack the mind.......you vision is not like a camera ...how does perception work?....easy to demostrate optical illisions ....also drugs can distorte your senses

Optical Illusion - Trip Vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRsCgELRWtY






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The Mind Has No Firewall
TIMOTHY L. THOMAS


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From Parameters, Spring 1998, pp. 84-92.

Go to Spring issue Table of Contents.

Go to Cumulative Article Index.



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"It is completely clear that the state which is first to create such weapons will achieve incomparable superiority." -- Major I. Chernishev, Russian army[1]



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The human body, much like a computer, contains myriad data processors. They include, but are not limited to, the chemical-electrical activity of the brain, heart, and peripheral nervous system, the signals sent from the cortex region of the brain to other parts of our body, the tiny hair cells in the inner ear that process auditory signals, and the light-sensitive retina and cornea of the eye that process visual activity.[2] We are on the threshold of an era in which these data processors of the human body may be manipulated or debilitated. Examples of unplanned attacks on the body's data-processing capability are well-documented. Strobe lights have been known to cause epileptic seizures. Not long ago in Japan, children watching television cartoons were subjected to pulsating lights that caused seizures in some and made others very sick.

Defending friendly and targeting adversary data-processing capabilities of the body appears to be an area of weakness in the US approach to information warfare theory, a theory oriented heavily toward systems data-processing and designed to attain information dominance on the battlefield. Or so it would appear from information in the open, unclassified press. This US shortcoming may be a serious one, since the capabilities to alter the data- processing systems of the body already exist. A recent edition of U.S. News and World Report highlighted several of these "wonder weapons" (acoustics, microwaves, lasers) and noted that scientists are "searching the electromagnetic and sonic spectrums for wavelengths that can affect human behavior."[3] A recent Russian military article offered a slightly different slant to the problem, declaring that "humanity stands on the brink of a psychotronic war" with the mind and body as the focus. That article discussed Russian and international attempts to control the psycho-physical condition of man and his decisionmaking processes by the use of VHF-generators, "noiseless cassettes," and other technologies.

An entirely new arsenal of weapons, based on devices designed to introduce subliminal messages or to alter the body's psychological and data-processing capabilities, might be used to incapacitate individuals. These weapons aim to control or alter the psyche, or to attack the various sensory and data-processing systems of the human organism. In both cases, the goal is to confuse or destroy the signals that normally keep the body in equilibrium.

This article examines energy-based weapons, psychotronic weapons, and other developments designed to alter the ability of the human body to process stimuli. One consequence of this assessment is that the way we commonly use the term "information warfare" falls short when the individual soldier, not his equipment, becomes the target of attack.

Information Warfare Theory and the Data-Processing Element of Humans


In the United States the common conception of information warfare focuses primarily on the capabilities of hardware systems such as computers, satellites, and military equipment which process data in its various forms. According to Department of Defense Directive S-3600.1 of 9 December 1996, information warfare is defined as "an information operation conducted during time of crisis or conflict to achieve or promote specific objectives over a specific adversary or adversaries." An information operation is defined in the same directive as "actions taken to affect adversary information and information systems while defending one's own information and information systems." These "information systems" lie at the heart of the modernization effort of the US armed forces and other countries, and manifest themselves as hardware, software, communications capabilities, and highly trained individuals. Recently, the US Army conducted a mock battle that tested these systems under simulated combat conditions.

US Army Field Manual 101-5-1, Operational Terms and Graphics (released 30 September 1997), defines information warfare as "actions taken to achieve information superiority by affecting a hostile's information, information based-processes, and information systems, while defending one's own information, information processes, and information systems." The same manual defines information operations as a "continuous military operation within the military information environment that enables, enhances, and protects friendly forces' ability to collect, process, and act on information to achieve an advantage across the full range of military operations. [Information operations include] interacting with the Global Information Environment . . . and exploiting or denying an adversary's information and decision capabilities."[4]

This "systems" approach to the study of information warfare emphasizes the use of data, referred to as information, to penetrate an adversary's physical defenses that protect data (information) in order to obtain operational or strategic advantage. It has tended to ignore the role of the human body as an information- or data-processor in this quest for dominance except in those cases where an individual's logic or rational thought may be upset via disinformation or deception. As a consequence little attention is directed toward protecting the mind and body with a firewall as we have done with hardware systems. Nor have any techniques for doing so been prescribed. Yet the body is capable not only of being deceived, manipulated, or misinformed but also shut down or destroyed--just as any other data-processing system. The "data" the body receives from external sources--such as electromagnetic, vortex, or acoustic energy waves--or creates through its own electrical or chemical stimuli can be manipulated or changed just as the data (information) in any hardware system can be altered.

The only body-related information warfare element considered by the United States is psychological operations (PSYOP). In Joint Publication 3-13.1, for example, PSYOP is listed as one of the elements of command and control warfare. The publication notes that "the ultimate target of [information warfare] is the information dependent process, whether human or automated . . . . Command and control warfare (C2W) is an application of information warfare in military operations. . . . C2W is the integrated use of PSYOP, military deception, operations security, electronic warfare and physical destruction."[5]

One source defines information as a "nonaccidental signal used as an input to a computer or communications system."[6] The human body is a complex communication system constantly receiving nonaccidental and accidental signal inputs, both external and internal. If the ultimate target of information warfare is the information-dependent process, "whether human or automated," then the definition in the joint publication implies that human data-processing of internal and external signals can clearly be considered an aspect of information warfare. Foreign researchers have noted the link between humans as data processors and the conduct of information warfare. While some study only the PSYOP link, others go beyond it. As an example of the former, one recent Russian article described offensive information warfare as designed to "use the Internet channels for the purpose of organizing PSYOP as well as for `early political warning' of threats to American interests."[7] The author's assertion was based on the fact that "all mass media are used for PSYOP . . . [and] today this must include the Internet." The author asserted that the Pentagon wanted to use the Internet to "reinforce psychological influences" during special operations conducted outside of US borders to enlist sympathizers, who would accomplish many of the tasks previously entrusted to special units of the US armed forces.

Others, however, look beyond simple PSYOP ties to consider other aspects of the body's data-processing capability. One of the principal open source researchers on the relationship of information warfare to the body's data-processing capability is Russian Dr. Victor Solntsev of the Baumann Technical Institute in Moscow. Solntsev is a young, well-intentioned researcher striving to point out to the world the potential dangers of the computer operator interface. Supported by a network of institutes and academies, Solntsev has produced some interesting concepts.[8] He insists that man must be viewed as an open system instead of simply as an organism or closed system. As an open system, man communicates with his environment through information flows and communications media. One's physical environment, whether through electromagnetic, gravitational, acoustic, or other effects, can cause a change in the psycho-physiological condition of an organism, in Solntsev's opinion. Change of this sort could directly affect the mental state and consciousness of a computer operator. This would not be electronic war or information warfare in the traditional sense, but rather in a nontraditional and non-US sense. It might encompass, for example, a computer modified to become a weapon by using its energy output to emit acoustics that debilitate the operator. It also might encompass, as indicated below, futuristic weapons aimed against man's "open system."

Solntsev also examined the problem of "information noise," which creates a dense shield between a person and external reality. This noise may manifest itself in the form of signals, messages, images, or other items of information. The main target of this noise would be the consciousness of a person or a group of people. Behavior modification could be one objective of information noise; another could be to upset an individual's mental capacity to such an extent as to prevent reaction to any stimulus. Solntsev concludes that all levels of a person's psyche (subconscious, conscious, and "superconscious") are potential targets for destabilization.

According to Solntsev, one computer virus capable of affecting a person's psyche is Russian Virus 666. It manifests itself in every 25th frame of a visual display, where it produces a combination of colors that allegedly put computer operators into a trance. The subconscious perception of the new pattern eventually results in arrhythmia of the heart. Other Russian computer specialists, not just Solntsev, talk openly about this "25th frame effect" and its ability to subtly manage a computer user's perceptions. The purpose of this technique is to inject a thought into the viewer's subconscious. It may remind some of the subliminal advertising controversy in the United States in the late 1950s.

US Views on "Wonder Weapons": Altering the Data-Processing Ability of the Body

What technologies have been examined by the United States that possess the potential to disrupt the data-processing capabilities of the human organism? The 7 July 1997 issue of U.S. News and World Report described several of them designed, among other things, to vibrate the insides of humans, stun or nauseate them, put them to sleep, heat them up, or knock them down with a shock wave.[9] The technologies include dazzling lasers that can force the pupils to close; acoustic or sonic frequencies that cause the hair cells in the inner ear to vibrate and cause motion sickness, vertigo, and nausea, or frequencies that resonate the internal organs causing pain and spasms; and shock waves with the potential to knock down humans or airplanes and which can be mixed with pepper spray or chemicals.[10]

With modification, these technological applications can have many uses. Acoustic weapons, for example, could be adapted for use as acoustic rifles or as acoustic fields that, once established, might protect facilities, assist in hostage rescues, control riots, or clear paths for convoys. These waves, which can penetrate buildings, offer a host of opportunities for military and law enforcement officials. Microwave weapons, by stimulating the peripheral nervous system, can heat up the body, induce epileptic-like seizures, or cause cardiac arrest. Low-frequency radiation affects the electrical activity of the brain and can cause flu-like symptoms and nausea. Other projects sought to induce or prevent sleep, or to affect the signal from the motor cortex portion of the brain, overriding voluntary muscle movements. The latter are referred to as pulse wave weapons, and the Russian government has reportedly bought over 100,000 copies of the "Black Widow" version of them.[11]

However, this view of "wonder weapons" was contested by someone who should understand them. Brigadier General Larry Dodgen, Deputy Assistant to the Secretary of Defense for Policy and Missions, wrote a letter to the editor about the "numerous inaccuracies" in the U.S. News and World Report article that "misrepresent the Department of Defense's views."[12] Dodgen's primary complaint seemed to have been that the magazine misrepresented the use of these technologies and their value to the armed forces. He also underscored the US intent to work within the scope of any international treaty concerning their application, as well as plans to abandon (or at least redesign) any weapon for which countermeasures are known. One is left with the feeling, however, that research in this area is intense. A concern not mentioned by Dodgen is that other countries or non-state actors may not be bound by the same constraints. It is hard to imagine someone with a greater desire than terrorists to get their hands on these technologies. "Psycho-terrorism" could be the next buzzword.

Russian Views on "Psychotronic War"

The term "psycho-terrorism" was coined by Russian writer N. Anisimov of the Moscow Anti-Psychotronic Center. According to Anisimov, psychotronic weapons are those that act to "take away a part of the information which is stored in a man's brain. It is sent to a computer, which reworks it to the level needed for those who need to control the man, and the modified information is then reinserted into the brain." These weapons are used against the mind to induce hallucinations, sickness, mutations in human cells, "zombification," or even death. Included in the arsenal are VHF generators, X-rays, ultrasound, and radio waves. Russian army Major I. Chernishev, writing in the military journal Orienteer in February 1997, asserted that "psy" weapons are under development all over the globe. Specific types of weapons noted by Chernishev (not all of which have prototypes) were:

A psychotronic generator, which produces a powerful electromagnetic emanation capable of being sent through telephone lines, TV, radio networks, supply pipes, and incandescent lamps.
An autonomous generator, a device that operates in the 10-150 Hertz band, which at the 10-20 Hertz band forms an infrasonic oscillation that is destructive to all living creatures.
A nervous system generator, designed to paralyze the central nervous systems of insects, which could have the same applicability to humans.
Ultrasound emanations, which one institute claims to have developed. Devices using ultrasound emanations are supposedly capable of carrying out bloodless internal operations without leaving a mark on the skin. They can also, according to Chernishev, be used to kill.
Noiseless cassettes. Chernishev claims that the Japanese have developed the ability to place infra-low frequency voice patterns over music, patterns that are detected by the subconscious. Russians claim to be using similar "bombardments" with computer programming to treat alcoholism or smoking.
The 25th-frame effect, alluded to above, a technique wherein each 25th frame of a movie reel or film footage contains a message that is picked up by the subconscious. This technique, if it works, could possibly be used to curb smoking and alcoholism, but it has wider, more sinister applications if used on a TV audience or a computer operator.
Psychotropics, defined as medical preparations used to induce a trance, euphoria, or depression. Referred to as "slow-acting mines," they could be slipped into the food of a politician or into the water supply of an entire city. Symptoms include headaches, noises, voices or commands in the brain, dizziness, pain in the abdominal cavities, cardiac arrhythmia, or even the destruction of the cardiovascular system.
There is confirmation from US researchers that this type of study is going on. Dr. Janet Morris, coauthor of The Warrior's Edge, reportedly went to the Moscow Institute of Psychocorrelations in 1991. There she was shown a technique pioneered by the Russian Department of Psycho-Correction at Moscow Medical Academy in which researchers electronically analyze the human mind in order to influence it. They input subliminal command messages, using key words transmitted in "white noise" or music. Using an infra-sound, very low frequency transmission, the acoustic psycho-correction message is transmitted via bone conduction.[13]

In summary, Chernishev noted that some of the militarily significant aspects of the "psy" weaponry deserve closer research, including the following nontraditional methods for disrupting the psyche of an individual:

ESP research: determining the properties and condition of objects without ever making contact with them and "reading" peoples' thoughts
Clairvoyance research: observing objects that are located just beyond the world of the visible--used for intelligence purposes
Telepathy research: transmitting thoughts over a distance--used for covert operations
Telekinesis research: actions involving the manipulation of physical objects using thought power, causing them to move or break apart--used against command and control systems, or to disrupt the functioning of weapons of mass destruction
Psychokinesis research: interfering with the thoughts of individuals, on either the strategic or tactical level
While many US scientists undoubtedly question this research, it receives strong support in Moscow. The point to underscore is that individuals in Russia (and other countries as well) believe these means can be used to attack or steal from the data-processing unit of the human body.

Solntsev's research, mentioned above, differs slightly from that of Chernishev. For example, Solntsev is more interested in hardware capabilities, specifically the study of the information-energy source associated with the computer-operator interface. He stresses that if these energy sources can be captured and integrated into the modern computer, the result will be a network worth more than "a simple sum of its components." Other researchers are studying high-frequency generators (those designed to stun the psyche with high frequency waves such as electromagnetic, acoustic, and gravitational); the manipulation or reconstruction of someone's thinking through planned measures such as reflexive control processes; the use of psychotronics, parapsychology, bioenergy, bio fields, and psychoenergy;[14] and unspecified "special operations" or anti-ESP training.

The last item is of particular interest. According to a Russian TV broadcast, the strategic rocket forces have begun anti-ESP training to ensure that no outside force can take over command and control functions of the force. That is, they are trying to construct a firewall around the heads of the operators.

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Acoustic is different from electronic -- uses sound itself to "broadcast" sound directly into another body.

I have found more on acoustic, or sonic weapons: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_weapon
And it seems much more credible information is available under this term.

I am still confident however that this is not causing my experience, simply because of the location issue I mentioned earlier.

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these precise, sophisticated interactions are entirely independent of physical state - location, motion.

Btw, my frustration is probably obvious - and due to the continued harassment.

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yes thats why its probadly microwave based (travels just under the speed of light) and can penetrate walls ect....and possible satilite based or other

microwave hearing effect plus othere effects from pulsed microwaves
Microwave auditory effect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_auditory_effect

also you have to understand what weak complex magnetic fields can do to the mind ...research Dr persinger god helemet ....I believe these can be done with out helemet and at distance...after all microwaves are part of the EM spectrum and have a magnetic field



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2020 discovery channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49nmQH7RhGs


who else would it be  ::)

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Guess what, you're not the only one who experiences "location independent" E/H harassment.  This clearly goes way beyond neighbors with devices, as David Lawson and his fans would have us believe.

They've gone to an enormous amount of trouble to make sure that targets cannot escape the effects of this.

So, now you've had your nose rubbed in it.  The question is, are you going to burn through all your resources trying to escape something that is not meant to be escapable?  Or are you going to try something else?

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The question is, are you going to burn through all your resources trying to escape something that is not meant to be escapable?  Or are you going to try something else?

As I lay here trying to sleep whilst they launch their attack, I can't help but wonder: What's in your head when you ask that question? Do tell, I'd like to know.

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one thing you have to realize is they no matter who/why/how you  belive it will exploit your fear,daubt & ignorance also I believe our personal situation and location , also understand conditioning and possitive re forcement ...hence you believe you have an implant , you will get sensation to re-enforce that idea, you believe its this person or group it will give you sensation/audio to re force that idea or belief, you believe its coming from a piece equipment or certain location it will give you possitive reforcement when you are near or in them location......

Its only when you realise this can you then  understand the contrdictory belief and experiences of TI`s and the likly hood of them fallen out and accusing each other of being "perps"

Please look to the proper documents and 3rd party people who have reasearched this , for your answers.

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During this time, I have logged my observations and studied them objectively. Others are not described anywhere.

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Who would go to this effort, for a 'target' with so little value to them (as I can not be), for such a period of time?


again I think TI`s sometimes look for an explanation for there targeting from something in there life and reason because of what they did, or for some reason they have some ability , I think this is only a small part of why somebody is targeted .
think about the reasons for the people behind the technology, they can have all the resources and high tech and theory`s they could want but with out human Brians (gunieapigs ) to use and test on its not much good.

also research companys spend enormous amounts on prototypes , realising once they have got a "working model" they can repilcated it more cheaply


also as most TI`s are walking around in plain view not in some out of site "lab" they have to camflage there targeting so others around us believe its a more plausible and socialy aceptable and understood process that is happning to us ...normally mental illness .....remember we a "visable" ones here people in the so called real world see and hear us and make a judjment based on that so a lot of there targeting is to make us sound and behave in ways that fit into a sterotypical mental illness  diagnose.


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Others are not described anywhere.

Think of your nervous system and your senses as a computer display.  And then realize, they can play anything on that display they want.  Are you experiencing something unique?  I'm sure you are.  But that doesn't mean a unique weapon is being used against you.

The one thing I think we're all in agreement on is that it really is "location independent".  But, if you want to believe it's coming from cell phone towers, well, they know where the nearest cell tower is in relation to you at all times, they can make it feel like you're experiencing more pain (or whatever) when you're closer to a cell tower.

Like Deca said, whatever you want to believe, they can feed you sensory information reinforcing that belief.  It's why there's so much infighting when it comes to this stuff.

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The one thing I think we're all in agreement on is that it really is "location independent".  But, if you want to believe it's coming from cell phone towers, well, they know where the nearest cell tower is in relation to you at all times, they can make it feel like you're experiencing more pain (or whatever) when you're closer to a cell tower.

The point of this thread is that I am not in agreement - with the source of the problem. Those replying keep digressing back to emf methods, though I have specifically stated non-emf methods in the topic.

My observations are not the result of electromagnetic frequency radiation in any scientifically known form, and likely not describable as emf at all. The acoustic mentioned earlier can be safely ruled out also.

Not even satellites with their space based locations would compensate for the observations.

Other possibilities besides emf, acoustic. That is what I want to discuss.

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these Neurological Weapons a really off the scale on what they can do to you mentally and physically

Remote Body Manipulation via Neurological Weapons (1 of 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5hUcJ_i7GY&feature=related

Remote Body Manipulation via Neurological Weapons (2 of 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4llaUd0Og0


I basically stick to the RF/microwave/EMF information because thats were the creditable evidence and documentation is, but I personal know and experiences far more than I generally post or talk about.....the other day I was playing mental virtaual tennis , like you do in a video game but menatly and interactive ....do you think none Ti`s would believe that let alone sythtic telepathy or even me being target from a microwave hearing voice?
The thing is to stay credible and try to stick to stuff we can prove.






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The thing is to stay credible and try to stick to stuff we can prove.

If we followed that concept all of the time this website - and probably the entirety of modern knowledge - would not exist.

So for this thread, I would prefer sticking to the topic, which does not include EMF discussion.

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RE: Psychic Harassment

Once we've ruled out all the explanations postulated above,
my understanding of what remains may fall in the area
of what has been referred to as
"Psychic Attack".

One person thought to be an expert in this area
was Dion Fortune 
who wrote Psychic Self-Defense in 1930.
(ISBN 1-57863-151-3 )

However, Ms Fortune's explanations for such attacks
involve mental telepathy
where the attacker is deliberately focussing his will onto the victim.

Ms Fortune describes her own experience of being victimized by a former employer.

She also describes in detail,
strategies that the victim can implement
to interfere with unwanted thought transmissions,
as well as self-protective techniques.

A very interesting read...

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Neurological and psytronics weopons are "Psychic Attack" via technology the acurate and runs 24/7 365 days of the years and not depedent on a picticular "Psychic" and probady via microwave/emf technology.

even the script based "AI" probadly duplicats what "Psychic Attack" would be as many other AI sciprts in use via this technology.(also the AI script  has a human charactor quility to it)


think about it...would they get an psyhic to personaly attack you, or record and digital  emulate it into there AI scripts so they can put the attack on anyone they pleased and run "24/7" like a looping video recording .....but as its AI script I believe it has a self learning ability or being tweaked to personaly attack the indivual .

think the militray spent years and plenty on researching real psychic peolpe and the pehnomine , plus have to tech and networks to digital do it these days




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psytronics weopons are "Psychic Attack" via technology the acurate and runs 24/7 365 days of the years and probady via microwave/emf technology.

I've asked you several times to stay on topic, yet you refuse. Therefore I'll continue reporting you until your post or your account is deleted.

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so what you believe is mind control & electronic harrassment and Psychotronic Weapons  don`t mimic psychic attacks? all I was trying to point out is that they do



http://www.subversiveelement.com/MK_Psychotronic_weapons.html

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In the book "Psychotronic Weapon and the Security of Russia" the authors propose among the basic principles of the Russian concept of the defense against the remote control of human psyche the acknowledgement of its factual existence as well as the acknowledgement of realistic feasibility of informational, psychotronic war (which as a matter of fact is actually taking place without declaration of war)" (19). They quote as well the record from the session of the Russian Federation Federal Council where V. Lopatin stated that psychotronic weapon can "cause the blocking of the freedom of will of a human being on a subliminal level" or "instillation into the consciousness or subconsciousness of a human being of information which will cause faulty perception of the reality" (20). For that matter they propose the preparation of national legislative as well as the norms of international law "aimed at the defense of human psyche against subliminal, destructive, informational effects" (21). As well they propose the declassificcation of all works on this technology and warn that, as a consequence of the classification, the arms race is speeding up making the psychotronic war probable. Among the possible sources of remote influence on human psyche they list the generators of physical fields" of "known as well as unknown nature" (22).

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It is a valid point, and there must be some reason the mods haven't done those things to Deca.

So, you might want to consider where you may be wrong.

Being a "TI" isn't a license to control the forum, its posts, posters, or threads -- its content in general.  I am sorry this has happened to you (if it has), but that doesn't give you the right to dictate.  Deca is entitled to his quite reasonable opinion, which he has expressed in a quite civil manner from what I can see.

Maybe, you should look to see where you two have things in common, and where you might have points of agreement.  Because he disagrees with you does not make him your enemy.  He is not attacking you, he is merely standing up for what he believes is the truth.

Frankly the things you say you are experiencing could legitimately be ascribed to EMF/microwave weapons, acoustic weapons, and (yes) mental illness, though I do not know you well enough to diagnose you if you do, and I have enough problems of my own.

And yes, I think I've seen things (not necessarily heard them) that weren't there  -- if that's enough nowadays to be "crazy", then I'm crazy and you can shout it to the world.

Frankly, I just think there are more things in heaven and earth than the more skeptical among us are ready to admit.

Could it be psychic warfare?  I truly don't know.  There are others around here who are much more skeptical and if this is the course you're tacking, you will be lucky if this thread isn't thrown in with UFO's and other far out of left field stuff that tends to be marginalized on the forum, for reasons which I understand to some degree.

If I were you, I wouldn't take such a defensive posture vis-a-vis Deca.

I wonder if this whole thread hasn't been lucky to cruise "under the radar" as long as it has.

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so what you believe is...

I'll make this as simple as one word: Wrong!

I have not limited myself to anything. I have simply asked that you stay on (the very clear) thread topic. How is that difficult?

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there must be some reason the mods haven't done those things to Deca.

Internet forums operate on very simple principles. If every major forum on the Internet allowed people such as Deca (and the others in this room who create multiple unnecessarily long off-topic replies in specific threads) to simply hijack every thread with off-topic replies, false accusations, and side debates, there would be no major forums.

But then it's becoming obvious the goal of these user/trolls is becoming just that: to prevent the forum from growing.

The job of a moderator is precisely that: to prevent trolls (a term in use since the 1970s to describe precisely these people) from destroying meaningful conversation.

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So, you might want to consider where you may be wrong.

I have, extensively. I stopped listing more harassment features as each was followed by a series of indirect, repetitive replies obviously designed for distraction from the conversation.. mostly by the same users (again, that word: trolls).

I'm not close to the first person who's engaged in this exact debate. There have been numerous attempts by seriously informed posters to create intelligent conversation in these forums. Each of their posts was met by dozens of repetitive non-sense replies by the same usernames. Like anybody discussing government psy-ops has any interest in teen-age haunting videos on Youtube??

I have now forwarded this thread to every moderator on the board. It is but one of my threads infected by trolls. Their actions will determine the seriousness of this forum in addressing the issues set forth by it.

    
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4. Please post new topics in the appropriate sections and keep replies on topic.

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It is no more clear to me that Deca is more likely a troll than you.  His replies do not seem to be off-topic.  You just disagree.  You are therefore attempting to control the conversation to your point of view, but you do not necessarily have that authority around here and evidently the PTB here agree.

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look these are worth understanding and knowing, how and what would you think was happning to you if you were an unwhitten victim of these so called "wonder weapons"

you probably could percive and believe you were under some type of Psychic Harassment

Thats what I am trying to get across on here I am not sure what the OP means posting this in the mind control section and trying to get TI`s to consider something other than the document technology and weopons ???

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Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen, Defense Viewpoint, December 1, 1998

“One can envision the development of electromagnetic energy sources, the output of which can be pulsed, shaped, and focused, that can couple with the human body in a fashion that will allow one to prevent voluntary muscular movements, control emotions (and thus actions), produce sleep, transmit suggestions, interfere with both short-term and long-term memory, produce an experience set, and delete an experience set. It would also appear possible to create high fidelity speech in the human body, raising the possibility of covert suggestion and psychological direction…Thus, it may be possible to ‘talk’ to selected adversaries in a fashion that would be most disturbing to them.

http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/mind/exposed/ex040702a.html

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The Mind Has No Firewall
Mr. Timothy L. Thomas
Foreign Military Studies Office, Fort Leavenworth, KS.

This article first appeared in the Spring 1998 issue of Parameters

"It is completely clear that the state which is first to create such weapons will achieve incomparable superiority."

Major I. Chernishev, Russian Army 1

The human body, much like a computer, contains myriad data processors. They include, but are not limited to, the chemical-electrical activity of the brain, heart, and peripheral nervous system, the signals sent from the cortex region of the brain to other parts of our body, the tiny hair cells in the inner ear that process auditory signals, and the light-sensitive retina and cornea of the eye that process visual activity. 2 We are on the threshold of an era in which these data processors of the human body may be manipulated or debilitated. Examples of unplanned attacks on the body's data-processing capability are well-documented. Strobe lights have been known to cause epileptic seizures. Not long ago in Japan, children watching television cartoons were subjected to pulsating lights that caused seizures in some and made others very sick.

Defending friendly and targeting adversary data-processing capabilities of the body appears to be an area of weakness in the US approach to information warfare theory, a theory oriented heavily toward systems data processing and designed to attain information dominance on the battlefield. Or so it would appear from information in the open, unclassified press. This US shortcoming may be a serious one, since the capabilities to alter the data processing systems of the body already exist. A recent edition of U.S. News and World Report highlighted several of these "wonder weapons" (acoustics, microwaves, lasers) and noted that scientists are "searching the electromagnetic and sonic spectrums for wavelengths that can affect human behavior." 3 A recent Russian military article offered a slightly different slant to the problem, declaring that "humanity stands on the brink of a psychotropic war" with the mind and body as the focus. That article discussed Russian and international attempts to control the psycho-physical condition of man and his decision making processes by the use of VHF-generators, "noiseless cassettes," and other technologies.

An entirely new arsenal of weapons, based on devices designed to introduce subliminal messages or to alter the body's psychological and data processing capabilities, might be used to incapacitate individuals. These weapons aim to control or alter the psyche, or to attack the various sensory and data-processing systems of the human organism. In both cases, the goal is to confuse or destroy the signals that normally keep the body in equilibrium.

This article examines energy-based weapons, psychotropic weapons, and other developments designed to alter the ability of the human body to process stimuli. One consequence of this assessment is that the way we commonly use the term "information warfare" falls short when the individual soldier, not his equipment, becomes the target of attack.

also when you look at Dr persingers work you can get an idea of what kind of experiences that can be induced by weak complex magnetic fields.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49nmQH7RhGs


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Very frightening !

I posted a more thoughtful response under the thread called
RE: Illegal implants ( Microstimulators).

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what the OP means

...Is pretty simple: "Psychic Harassment: Not EMF, Not microwave hearing".

But then, you've clearly the support of every major moderator to continue in your very deliberate, planned efforts. Thus refuting your digressions is not only a waste of my time, it's likely a waste of any serious reader.

As obviously your planned efforts have nothing to do with solving problems.

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I think what somebody has all ready pointed out you have to define what is EMF,  microwave hearing is and how your experences is not it.
look the army even call them " "wonder weapons" ok

and I have already pointed out these go beyond  basic EMF and  microwave hearing effects they are  psychotropic,neurlogical  weapons .

I don`t think there is any TI that really knows exactly how they attacks and plus they probadly advance and envolve quicker then good information is realised , plus being targeted , manipulated.subverted by them can we ever as a victim know exactly how its done? I think trying to fallow the realised documents , good research and fallow the money into new research is best rather than spectulating and assuming