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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2010, 08:31:04 PM » |
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the guy says 'there was just an explosion'
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2010, 08:37:22 PM » |
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Amazing. There is still 9/11 evidence out there.
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2010, 08:59:15 PM » |
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I'm sure more will be revealed yet. There still seem to be some missing pieces. This doesn't surprise me at all, though I'm impressed by the timing/planning that obviously went into this thing (even if it was completley frickin' evil.)
This was an uber-professional job in a way we've never seen before and very hopefully will not see again.
Saudis with boxcutters my a$$!
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2010, 09:04:24 PM » |
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Excellent research and a nice find. The timing of the explosion before AA11 hits is very clear -- its before the plane hits WTC 1.
There are numerous eyewitness accounts of explosion(s) in the basement. The Naudet brothers video clearly shows extensive damage inside the WTC 1 lobby: broken windows, marble facing blown off the elevator shaft walls, etc.
My theory concerning the basement explosion(s) in WTC 1 (and also WTC 2) is that the elevator systems were destroyed to prevent firefighters from reaching the impact zones in a timely manner. While its standard procedure for firefighters not to use elevators, a climb up +70 flights would require more than 80 minutes for even the most fit firefighters. In WTC 2, firefighters did use an undamaged elevator and reached the impact zone before firefighters reached the impact zone in WTC 1. As soon as they reported that only two fire hoses would be needed to contain the fire, WTC 2 was imploded.
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2010, 09:06:32 PM » |
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Welcone aboard, Surgeon.
Good points, too.
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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2010, 02:53:29 AM » |
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this evidence is not new, but it is consistent with testimony by rodriguez and others. Many witnesses have explained that there was a loud boom before the first plane. But like the over 200 witnesses who testified that there were bombs based on first hand evidence, this has been brushed under the Bilderberg carpet.
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All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately
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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2010, 03:25:57 AM » |
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I know that when torpedo's hit ships in convoys during WW2, the crews of the other ships would feel the impact shockwave that traveled through the sea water long before the sound reached them, I think because the speed of sound is considerably quicker in water than air.
I would think the shockwave traveling through the solid ground would also be considerably faster.
The distance in this video of the impact of the plane to the camera as the crow flies is hard to guess, but even if it were just a quarter mile there would be a noticeable delay between a faster shockwave going through the solid ground and the one that traveled more slowly through the air.
Just suggesting this may be what this was, as crucially, we don't see the impact and the initial camera shake at the same time. If we saw the camera shake before any plane hit, then that would be a different story.
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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2010, 04:33:51 AM » |
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I know that when torpedo's hit ships in convoys during WW2, the crews of the other ships would feel the impact shockwave that traveled through the sea water long before the sound reached them, I think because the speed of sound is considerably quicker in water than air.
I would think the shockwave traveling through the solid ground would also be considerably faster.
The distance in this video of the impact of the plane to the camera as the crow flies is hard to guess, but even if it were just a quarter mile there would be a noticeable delay between a faster shockwave going through the solid ground and the one that traveled more slowly through the air.
Just suggesting this may be what this was, as crucially, we don't see the impact and the initial camera shake at the same time. If we saw the camera shake before any plane hit, then that would be a different story.
interesting analysis, but considering distance and delay IMO...not a chance
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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2010, 04:48:18 AM » |
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interesting analysis, but considering distance and delay IMO...not a chance
The distance may have been greater than the video suggests, we don't even know what lens or zoom setting the video was on. We need more details before writing-off any explanation. Bottom line, there would be a ground shock wave, and it would get there before any sound wave. Are you saying the distance was too far, or too close? How would you know what the delay was, given that you cannot see the moment of plane impact?
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« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2010, 04:51:39 AM » |
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The distance may have been greater than the video suggests, we don't even know what lens or zoom setting the video was on.
We need more details before writing-off any explanation.
Bottom line, there would be a ground shock wave, and it would get there before any sound wave.
Are you saying the distance was too far, or too close?
How would you know what the delay was, given that you cannot see the moment of plane impact?
You can google map the distance. It was not that far and this is really in my mind just part of the hundreds of other pieces of evidence. Using this one video rather than Building 7 imploding to justify a new investigation is illogical. This is simply part of the mountains of evidence.
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