Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange is 'Annoyed' by 9/11 Truth

[Lin Kuei]

"Wanted by the CIA: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange"
Belfast Telegraph, July 19, 2010

In this interview, Belfast Telegraph reporter Matthew Bell asks Wikileaks founder Julian Assange about "conspiracy theories". Assange subsequently explains his position.

    His obsession with secrecy, both in others and maintaining his own, lends him the air of a conspiracy theorist. Is he one? "I believe in facts about conspiracies," he says, choosing his words slowly. "Any time people with power plan in secret, they are conducting a conspiracy. So there are conspiracies everywhere. There are also crazed conspiracy theories. It's important not to confuse these two. Generally, when there's enough facts about a conspiracy we simply call this news." What about 9/11? "I'm constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide evidence of real conspiracies, for war or mass financial fraud." What about the Bilderberg conference? "That is vaguely conspiratorial, in a networking sense. We have published their meeting notes."

Mr. Assange seems to have conveniently forgotten that 9/11 may be, in a very concrete sense, a 'conspiracy for war', leading directly to the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and the permanent "War on Terror".

In November 2009, Wikileaks released "half a million US national text pager intercepts" covering a "24 hour period surrounding the September 11, 2001 attacks in New York and Washington."[1] This is all commendable. However, given Mr. Assange's rather curious disposition towards 9/11 truth, how much effort can we really expect from Wikileaks in the future?

Perhaps it should be pointed out to Mr. Assange that former senator Bob Graham, who chaired the United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence when it performed its Joint Inquiry[2] into 9/11, gave an interview to the BBC in which Graham said the following:[3]

    Bob Graham: "I can just state that within 9/11 there are too many secrets, that is information that has not been made available to the public for which there are specific tangible credible answers and that that withholding of those secrets has eroded public confidence in their government as it relates to their own security."

    Narrator: "Senator Graham found that the cover-up led to the heart of the administration."

    Bob Graham: "I called the White House and talked with Ms. Rice and said: "Look, we've been told we're gonna get cooperation in this inquiry and she said she'd look into it and nothing happened."

    Interviewer: "Was there any sort of sense of embarrassment or apology or...?"

    Bob Graham: "No. Embarrassment, apology, regret, those are not characteristics associated with the current White House."

    Narrator: "So it was a conspiracy to cover-up the fact that blunders had been made in the lead up to 9/11?"

    Bob Graham: "If by conspiracy you mean, more than one person involved, yes, there was more than one person and there was some ... collaboration of efforts among agencies and the administration to keep information out of the public's hands."

The BBC then concludes their documentary with a reassuring, paternalistic commentary explaining why this isn't something we should all be furious about. Furthermore, in 2009, 9/11 commissioner Bob Kerrey said, in a candid dialogue with We Are Change LA:[4]

    Bob Kerrey: "It's a problem... it's a 30-year-old conspiracy"

    Jeremy Rothe-Kushel: "No.. I'm talking about 9/11"

    Bob Kerrey: "That's what I'm talking about"

Many interpretations could be given as to what sort of conspiracy these two former senators are referring to. The BBC documentary "Conspiracy Files: 9-11" was an obvious hit piece against 9/11 truth, in which the BBC went out of their way to handwave all abnormalities as 'blunders', 'failures', 'mistakes' and 'cock ups'. This angle is not new, in fact, it's part of a long BBC tradition of 'limited hangouts'. Nor is it any less outrageous if it were true that these 'blunders' and 'gaffes' were deliberately covered up, as the BBC and Bob Graham allege. A criminal cover-up alone warrants criminal prosecution of the conspirators involved, and most 9/11 researchers know this is merely the tip of the iceberg. Bob Kerrey's remark could be taken to mean the covert funding and training of the Mujahideen, initiated in 1979.[5]

Nobody is asking Mr. Assange to depart from his objective role, but now that he has spoken out, he deserves a reply. In both cases, clearly the terminology used is "conspiracy" or "cover-up". Bob Graham doesn't hold back and mentions "withholding of (..) secrets", chastising the Bush administration for being unapologetic, self-serving and obstructive. So it seems that Julian Assange, as the founder and director of an organization supposedly dedicated to supporting whistleblowers who expose government wrongdoing, has his work cut out for him, unless he is determined to be part of the problem. The perception management and misguided credibility building Mr. Assange seems so concerned with conflict with the stated mission of Wikleaks:[6]

    "WikiLeaks is a multi-jurisdictional public service designed to protect whistleblowers, journalists and activists who have sensitive materials to communicate to the public."

I bet whistleblowers Sibel Edmonds[7] and certainly Daniel Ellsberg[8], who is mentioned several times in the mission statement, approve. Surely, a 9/11 cover-up that "led to the heart of the administration" is worthy of Wikileaks' attention. Or is it?
[1] "9/11 tragedy pager intercepts" — http://911.wikileaks.org/

[2] 9/11 Joint Inquiry — http://www.gpoaccess.gov/serialset/creports/911.html

[3] Relevant excerpt from the 2007 BBC documentary "Conspiracy Files: 9-11" — http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6QLnvvyIzg/

[4] We Are Change LA: "9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey finally confesses 9-11 Commission could not do it's job"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtJWBcWAeAw#t=6m45

[5] Operation Cyclone — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone

[6] http://wikileaks.org/wiki/WikiLeaks:About

[7] Documentary "Sibel Edmonds: Kill The Messenger" — http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6063340745569143497

[8] Sibel Edmonds, Daniel Ellsberg together — http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aSbmRHqKL4

http://911blogger.com/news/2010-07-22/wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-annoyed-911-truth

[Freeski]

Well, you can never have have too many conspiracy theories.

[charrington]

That's absolutely hilarious - He now annoy's me.

[Dig]

I am guessing we have permission to reproduce that article?

[John_Back_From_The_Club_O]

Nice to see you playing ball Julian.

[dtk]

I am guessing we have permission to reproduce that article?

"Do not use the site to continue arguments with other users from thread to thread.

When re-posting an article, ALWAYS provide a link to the source. DO NOT ALTER THE COPY FROM THE SOURCE. THIS WILL RESULT IN THE END OF YOUR ACCOUNT"

http://911blogger.com/rules

[dtk]

only 5% of the population know about building 7.

lots of work to do!

[Freeski]

only 5% of the population know about building 7.

lots of work to do!

You think that's bad? My brother in law admited to me today that he prefers slavery over freedom, we got into it that deep!

I think MOST people don't have a clue what liberty is.

[Dig]

"Do not use the site to continue arguments with other users from thread to thread.

When re-posting an article, ALWAYS provide a link to the source. DO NOT ALTER THE COPY FROM THE SOURCE. THIS WILL RESULT IN THE END OF YOUR ACCOUNT"

http://911blogger.com/rules

Just for the record, the blogger responsible for the story is the following:

Submitted by SnowCrash on Thu, 07/22/2010 - 6:22pm

He only quoted the excerpt so looks good. thanks for the info.

wikileaks is so cutting edge...but they cannot talk about 9/11. Wow, that explains a lot.

[RonPaulRocks]

I always knew Wikileaks was a CIA creation meant to get people off real issues like 9/11.  There have been countless murders in Iraq, they show one tape and we are supposed to love Wikileaks.  When I saw Assange on BBC Middle East or should I say Al Jazeera I knew he was nothing but an operative for disinfo and diversion.

Assange is annoyed by 9/11 lol.  Well we now know exactly what to think of him.

[RonPaulRocks]

What do you think?

[PainInDaBrain]

Dunno :\

[citizenx]

Very disappointed with Mr. Assange lately.

Beginning to think the people who say he is/was CIA are right.

Not just the 911 thing.

[wvoutlaw2002]

Maybe his "gone into hiding" is just a convenient cover so he can get intelligence briefs on the coming false-flag.

[citizenx]

He's been in public at a TED lecture and in London I believe.   If the PTB really wanted him they would have him.

He's likely one of theirs.

Moreover, there seems to be a lot of suspicious disclosure (whitewash) of the intelligence apparatus lately.  There is an all-out attempt to be their own controlled opposition.  WaPo project may be related to this faux whistle-blower operation

Wiki-leaked. (verb, past tense)

Speaking of 911, I think he is as "wanted" as Osama bin Laden.  He's about as wanted as...(insert joke here)

[squarepusher]

This casts further doubt on that whole 'I cracked AES 256bit encryption and was able to walk into a marine base with a writable CD-ROM in hand, walk up to the CD-RW writer and burn a copy of all the files' excursion....

[endof]

This casts further doubt on that whole 'I cracked AES 256bit encryption' excursion....

yeah like hell..

[wvoutlaw2002]

Speaking of 911, I think he is as "wanted" as Osama bin Laden.  He's about as wanted as...(insert joke here)

He's about as wanted as hemmorhoids and anal warts.

[endof]

found it!

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/12/not-just-drones-militants-can-snoop-on-most-us-warplanes/

Tapping into drones’ video feeds  was just the start. The U.S. military’s primary system for bringing overhead surveillance down to soldiers and Marines on the ground is also vulnerable to electronic interception, multiple military sources tell Danger Room. That means militants have the ability to see through the eyes of all kinds of combat aircraft — from traditional fighters and bombers to unmanned spy planes. The problem is in the process of being addressed. But for now, an enormous security breach is even larger than previously thought.

...

“Can these feeds be encrypted with 99.5 percent chance of no compromise? Absolutely! Can you guarantee that all the encryption keys make it down to the lowest levels in the Army or USMC [United States Marine Corps]? No way,” adds a second Air Force officer, familiar with the ROVER issue. “Do they trust their soldiers/Marines with these encryption keys? Don’t know that.”
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i doubt it was ever encypted in any serious way.
either that or he had the key, saying he 'broke 256bit AES' is clear bull.

[citizenx]

Probably not highly encrypted.

Look at the way the Taliban hacked into video from the drones with off-the-shelf software.

Most likley explanation.

[uswgo]

You think that's bad? My brother in law admited to me today that he prefers slavery over freedom, we got into it that deep!

I think MOST people don't have a clue what liberty is.

well heck cause of social engineering they are making it sexy to be a slave.

Oh yes be a slave, it's sexe, like lady gaga, and you can choose what formal attire you will be wearing as a slave at the Kings Ball.

btw that was sarcasm but you get my drift.

Social Engineering is the way the elite is bringing forth their tyranny. By engineering the social public using propaganda messages you have the power to change the flow of destiny but by having the power to control mass minds means breaking the creator of the universes law of free will. So in other words our creator has given us the right to think for ourselves and question reality.

Heck if free will is so wrong then why do we have it???

Don't we have the right to be responsible and learn throughout our interesting lives.

What about the human journey? What about the right to learn?

We are evolving cause of technology we are moving beyond just survival and now we are diving into a infinite possibility of massive knowledge so massive that it will take thousands of years to read every single entire document, watch every video, and hear every podcast ever on the entire Worldwide web.

The human conscience as a whole is expanding beyond words, we are learning more by the minute, we have the power of Knowledge at our fingertips, and any of us can build libraries of knowledge. Even those that own old beta tapes and cylinder record players can now stream their beautiful melodies across the Internet.

but the Satanic Luciferian Order doesn't like this rise of knowledge and wisdom so they wish to wreck and destroy it all and turn it into a mall of exploitation where reading is not allowed and all you can learn is how to serve as a good slave.

[chris jones]

That truly SUKS. I was a fan of this guy, ya, held in high esteem, now this.

Did they get to him, did he make this as a consession in order to continue.?

[MrSwe]

Yeah this was a big dissapointment.. But no one is perfect i guess.

[Hawkwind]

i remember his first interview he was wearing a black long sleeved shirt with a bright red tie ...it immediately made me think he has satanist tendencies/connections ...seriously who wears those colours on MSM? red and black? hmmm

[Satyagraha]

 22 July 2010
Blowing the Whistle on the Snitch Racket
http://cryptome.org/0001/wikileaks-snitch.htm

Emmanuel Goldstein (2600) said 18 July 2010 at The Next HOPE panel on informants that within the hacker community it is expected that up to 25% of hackers are snitches. And that nothing can be done about it, so get used to it.

That suggests that of some 3,000 HOPE attendees about 750 were likely snitches. And of those on the snitch panel of four besides admitted snitch Adrian Lamo, one was likely a snitch. To demonstrate his point Goldstein admitted he once snitched to protect an "innocent." Lamo said he snitched on Manning as a matter of conscience, so two out of five. The other three panelists, Kevin Mitnick, Bernie X and Fiber Optic, went to prison from being snitched on.

It is hard to believe that among hacker-led Wikileaks, 25% of its workers, volunteers and supporters are snitches. Not even organized crime suffers that scale of corruption.

However, in spyworld it is required that 100% of spies snitch on both targets and each other, trained as they are to do just that and only that.

Now it is obligatory to exaggerate threats among secret organizations up to no good, that is the principal argument for secrecy. So to claim 25% of hackers are snitches, as 100% of spies claim they must snitch 100% of the time, it is necessary to exaggerate internal risk, to demand that snitching against snitches is necessary to save the secret cult.

Cult countersnitching is as convoluted as counterspying, and no cult member is safe from it, or so snitches avow: get used to it, the axe could fall without warning. The motto of brutal authoritarinaism, no?

(continued at source link)

[IridiumKEPfactor]

For Julian Assange to have as much info and documents that he has at wikileaks he should know that 9/11 was an inside job.

The people at http://cryptome.org/     http://cryptome.org/ are suspicious about Wikileaks.

Do you know if Assange has been on Alex's show? If no,t I think that he might be controlled because Alex could find the holes in his story. It could be that the info Wikileaks has might be stuff his possible controllers don't mind getting out.

For him to say this shows that he is either bought off or ignorant and stupid. Which one is it?

[Satyagraha]

http://cryptome.org/0001/wikileaks-time.htm
19 July 2010

A sends:

Attached is a timeline I constructed on the Adrian Lamo / Wikileaks case.

The timeline has been constructed to the best of my abilities, and is referenced whenever possible. I do not claim it is free from errors, but if there are errors, they should be relatively minor. The timeline gives a better picture of the sequence of events that happened, and refutes some of the claims made by Lamo, and indeed backs up Glenn Greenwald's characterization of the story.

Furthermore, it is clear Wired magazine needs to immediately release the FULL chat logs , or else they are simply making themselves, Lamo, and Poulsen look like they have something to hide -- which, in my opinion, they probably do.

I stand by my previous comments on Lamo's untrustworthyness in the past, detailed here:

http://cryptome.org/0001/wikileaks-case.htm

Despite Lamo's denials, I contacted my sources again and confirmed the information. Perhaps Lamo needs to refresh his memory of what he said and did at 2600 meetings.

To all who are reading: Feel free to correct and/or update this timeline and republish it with a new version number.

TIMELINE

Manning/Lamo/Poulsen Case
Composite Timeline  v1.2

2009

Summer / Fall 2009:
Manning considers leaking material to Wikileaks due to his moral objections to the war.   Manning attempts to contact Assange. [4]

2010

Jan 13: Icelandic cable regarding the failed Icesafe bank is sent from REYKJAVIK embassy to Washington.  Manning supposedly obtains and leaks this cable to Wikileaks. [13]

Feb 18: Wikileaks publishes the classified Icelandic cable. [14]

Feb xx: Sometime in February, Manning supposedly leaks Apache 'Collateral Murder' video to Wikileaks -- electronically. [3]

Apr 05: Wikileaks publishes the 'Collateral Murder' video provided by Bradley Manning. [5]

Apr~28: Adrian Lamo's backpack containing his antidepressants is stolen.  Lamo calls the police.  Police believe he is acting erratically and have him committed. [1]

Apr~28: Lamo taken to the local E.R. and put under armed guard. [1]

Apr~28: Lamo transferred to Woodland Memorial Hospital near Sacramento CA. [1]

Apr~28: Lamo placed on 72-hour involuntary psychiatric hold. [1]

May~03: A Judicial Officer extends Lamo's stay -- three days becomes nine days. [1]

May 07: Adrian Lamo discharged from mental hospital to parent's house , ultimately with Asperger's diagnosis. [1]

May 12: Lamo is photographed at his parent's California home by Wired photographer Ariel Zambelich -- for use in Poulsen's upcoming May 20 Wired mental health profile on Lamo. [1]

May 20:
    Lamo is contacted 'out of the blue' by Private Bradley Manning over PGP-encrypted email, who supposedly selected Lamo by searching for "Wikileaks" on Twitter. [2]
    The same day Manning contacts Lamo, Wired publishes Poulsen's article on Lamo's mental health problems, including the May 12 picture taken by Wired's Ariel Zambelich. [1], [2]

May 21:
    [Wired released no chat conversations for this day.]
    Lamo begins his online chats with Bradley Manning over AIM, after the initial email PGP keys were incorrect. [2], [3]

May 22:
    Lamo likely begins his contact with Federal authorities, unbenownst to Bradley Manning. [17]

    [Manning/Lamo AIM chat Conversations continue]

    1:51 PM -
    AIM: Manning alludes to Lamo that he has leaked multiple State Department cables to Wikileaks. [3]

    2:05 PM -
    AIM: Manning claims he has a personal relationship with Assange from Wikileaks, but that Manning does not know more than Assange tells him, which is very little.  [3]
    AIM: Manning also states that it took him four months to confirm Assange's identity. [3]

May 23:
    [Manning/Lamo AIM chat Conversations continue]

    8:01 AM -
    AIM: Lamo asks Manning about Assange's OPSEC. Manning confirms Assange does not use AIM, but that he does use OTR. Manning says Assange never discusses OPSEC , even over OTR. [3]

May 24:
    [Wired released no chat conversations for this day.]

    On or before this day, Lamo begins working with the Feds to 'nab' Manning. [15]
    Lamo now in telephone or email contact with Federal authorities -- including Army Intelligence. [4]
    Poulsen at Wired supposedly gets 'initial' phone call from Lamo, regarding Lamo's chats with Manning -- despite running the 'mental health' profile on Lamo four days prior.  [4]
    Lamo informs Poulsen he has been in contact with the Army Intelligence, and he is scheduled to meet with them in-person the following day. [4]

May 25:
    Lamo meets in-person with U.S. Army Intelligence. [4]
    Lamo calls Poulsen at Wired to tell him of what happened at the meeting with the Feds. [4]

    [Manning/Lamo AIM chat Conversations continue]

    2:09 AM -
    AIM: Lamo asks Manning if he is concerned that Army CID/CI might be investigating Wikileaks sources.  Manning replies he has zerofilled evidence on his computers. [3]

    2:26 AM -
    AIM: Manning claims Washington Post and David Finkel sat on the Apache 'collateral murder' video for years. [3]

        2:32 AM -
    AIM: Both Sign off. [3]

    [12 hour break]

    2:48 PM -
    AIM: Manning admits to leaking the Apache 'collateral murder' video to Wikileaks.  Manning claims to have uploaded this to Wikileaks in in February. [3]

May 26:
    Unbenownst to Lamo and Poulsen, Manning is arrested. [4]
    Lamo tells Poulsen he has a second meeting -- this time with the FBI -- the following day. [4]
    Lamo also tells Poulsen that Manning claimed credit for leaking the Collateral Murder video to Wikileaks. [4]
    Poulsen asks Lamo to provide the the AIM transcripts. Lamo agrees -- but only if Poulsen drives to Sacramento to pick up the chat logs in person. [4]
    Lamo's other condition for sharing the chat logs was that Poulsen not publish anything in Wired until Lamo gave the green light. [4]

May 27:
    11:00 AM - On or around this time, Poulsen drives from San Francisco to Sacramento to meet Adrian Lamo. They meet for several hours. [4]
    3:00  PM - Poulsen leaves Sacramento CA after meeting Lamo, with the Bradley Manning chats contained on a thumb drive. [4]
    4:00  PM - Lamo meets with the FBI, who inform him that Manning had been arrested the day before. [4]

May 28:
    Lamo tells Poulsen that at the previous day's meeting, the FBI informed him Manning had been arrested. [4]

Jun 01:
    Lamo okays Poulsen's publishing of a Wired article. [4]

Jun 02:
    Wired's Zetter is brought on the story. [4]

Jun 06:
    Poulsen publishes his Wired article on the arrest of Bradley Manning. [6]

Jun 07:
    Lamo issues a Press Release saying he will clarify his role in the Wired article the following day. [7]

Jun 08:
    Lamo publicly claims (to BBC) of telling Manning he 'worked as a journalist'. [16]

Jun 09:
    Lamo tells Yahoo News that he was 'not acting as a journalist', and he made this clear to Manning -- and clams Manning refused this offer.  Lamo also lies and tells Yahoo News his first contact with Manning was May 21 -- not May 20. [17]  Lamo claims Manning chose to contact him by searching for "Wikileaks" on Twitter. [17]

Jun 10:
    Wired releases highly-redacted chat logs, supposedly occurring between Lamo and Manning. [3]
    Washington Post somehow obtains and publishes parts of Lamo/Poulsen redacted chats not published by Wired; indicates that Wired and Poulsen are withholding more than "personal issues" and national security secrets. [4], [12]

Jun 11:
    Lamo issues a Press Release claiming had Manning approached him out of the blue, and Lamo was not acting "in his capacity as a journalist", but rather for a source for Wired, contradicting his previous statements. [8]

Jun 12:
    Lamo claims Wikileaks emailed him, requesting that he cease discussing potential espionage by Manning, as well as to provide Wikileaks with the chat logs. [9]

    Lamo publicises Wikileaks' emails and refuses the request. [9]

    Interesting, the email from Wikileaks references Lamo's "recent drug problems". [9]

    Lamo responds to Wikileaks by pointing the finger directly at Assange, and accuses Assange of not providing lawyers for Manning.  [9]

_____________

Footnotes

[1] Ex-Hacker Adrian Lamo Institutionalized for Asperger’s
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/05/lamo/

[2] The strange and consequential case of Bradley Manning, Adrian Lamo and WikiLeaks
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/06/18/wikileaks

[3] Highly edited chat logs released by Wired
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/06/wikileaks-chat/

[4] WikiLeaks Alleges Collusion
http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/wikileaks_alleges_collusion.php?page=1

[5] Wikileaks Releases Collateral Murder Video
http://www.collateralmurder.com/en/index.html

[6] U.S. Intelligence Analyst Arrested in Wikileaks Video Probe
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/06/leak/

[7] Adrian Lamo to respond to arrest of PFC Manning i-Newswire, 2010-06-07
http://www.i-newswire.com/adrian-lamo-to-respond-to-arrest/41353

[8] Adrian Lamo Clarifies Role In Bradley Manning Wikileaks Arrest i-Newswire, 2010-06-11
http://www.i-newswire.com/adrian-lamo-clarifies-role-in-bradley/42350

[9] Adrian Lamo to Wikileaks: Alleged Spy is an Alleged Spy i-Newswire, 2010-06-11
http://www.i-newswire.com/adrian-lamo-to-wikileaks-alleged/42466

[10] Ex-Hacker Adrian Lamo to Accept Salon.com's Offer to Rebut Wikileaks / Bradley Manning Story i-Newswire, 2010-06-26
http://www.i-newswire.com/ex-hacker-adrian-lamo-to-accept/45334

[11] Despite Death Threats, Adrian Lamo Maintains Resolve to Testify in Wikileaks / Bradley Manning Case If Needed  i-Newswire, 2010-06-27
http://www.i-newswire.com/despite-death-threats-adrian-lamo/45372

[12] Messages from alleged leaker Bradley Manning portray him as despondent soldier
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/09/AR2010060906170.html

[13] Classified cable from US Embassy Reykjavik on Icesave, TXT
http://file.wikileaks.org/file/us-watson1-2010.txt

[14] Classified cable from US Embassy Reykjavik on Icesave, 13 Jan 2010
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Classified_cable_from_US_Embassy_Reykjavik_on_Icesave,_13_Jan_2010

[15] Wired, Wikileaks and the Hacker-Journalist Complex
http://gawker.com/5567362/wired-wikileaks-and-the-hacker%20journalist-complex

[16] Wikileaks site unfazed by arrest of US army 'source'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10265430.stm

[17] Informant in WikiLeaks case explains how it came to light
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20100609/ts_ynews/ynews_ts2492

[18] Wikileaks: a somewhat less redacted version of the Lamo/Manning logs
http://www.boingboing.net/2010/06/19/wikileaks-a-somewhat.html

[Satyagraha]

For Julian Assange to have as much info and documents that he has at wikileaks he should know that 9/11 was an inside job.

The people at http://cryptome.org/     http://cryptome.org/ are suspicious about Wikileaks.

Do you know if Assange has been on Alex's show? If no,t I think that he might be controlled because Alex could find the holes in his story. It could be that the info Wikileaks has might be stuff his possible controllers don't mind getting out.

For him to say this shows that he is either bought off or ignorant and stupid. Which one is it?

I think he is cointelpro. A little bit of truth mixed with disinfo in service to his slave masters.

[RonPaulRocks]

I think he is cointelpro. A little bit of truth mixed with disinfo in service to his slave masters.

Yes that is exactly right, I knew he was disinfo when I saw him on Al Jazeera english.  And now that I heard he was speaking at a TED conference that seals the deal, he is scum. 

[Beefcake]

I am bumping this thread. 

These new leaks are planted imo.  How convenient that these knew Pentagon leaked documents identify Iran as funding the Taliban.  No doubt it is much more effective for a counterculture trusted site to release this convenient info rather than an untrusted mainstream source.

This is the type of info that the mainstream would be all over and that the the Pentagon would want released as they scramble for reasons to go to war with Iran and now conveniently a site that they SAY they dislike releases info that helps them.

It would be a very simple plan for the CIA or Pentagon to forge document label them top secret then leak them to thier "conspiracy site" wikileaks.  IMO Assange is CIA.

[wvoutlaw2002]

I am bumping this thread. 

These new leaks are planted imo.  How convenient that these knew Pentagon leaked documents identify Iran as funding the Taliban.  No doubt it is much more effective for a counterculture trusted site to release this convenient info rather than an untrusted mainstream source.

This is the type of info that the mainstream would be all over and that the the Pentagon would want released as they scramble for reasons to go to war with Iran and now conveniently a site that they SAY they dislike releases info that helps them.

It would be a very simple plan for the CIA or Pentagon to forge document label them top secret then leak them to thier "conspiracy site" wikileaks.  IMO Assange is CIA.

I think he works for all three: CIA, Mossad, and MI6.

[PTTurboe]

Info Wars...

[JT Coyoté]

Being without the tube, are they talking about this on the MSM? If so, how much and what is the spin.

JTCoyoté

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of America, in Congress assembled, two thirds of both Houses concurring, that the
following Articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as amendments
to the Constitution of the United States, all, or any of which Articles, when ratified by
three fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of
the said Constitution; viz.

ARTICLES in addition to, and Amendment of the Constitution of the United States
of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States,
pursuant to the fifth Article of the original Constitution.
~Preamble to the Bill of Rights, the first 10 Amendments, fully
ratified along with the original Constitution on Dec. 15, 1791

[donnay]

Leaks create fresh doubt about Afghan war, secrets

  By ROBERT BURNS, Associated Press Writer Robert Burns, Associated Press Writer   – 2 hrs 27 mins ago

WASHINGTON – The monumental leak of classified Afghan war documents threatened Monday to create deeper doubts about the war at home, cause new friction with Pakistan over allegations about its spy agency and raise questions around the world about Washington's own ability to protect military secrets.

The White House called the disclosures "alarming."

The torrent of more than 91,000 secret documents, one of the largest unauthorized disclosures in military history, sent the Obama administration scrambling to assess and repair any damage to the war effort, either abroad or in the U.S. The material could reinforce the view put forth by the war's opponents in Congress that one of the nation's longest conflicts is hopelessly stalemated.

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[Lin Kuei]

are they talking about this on the MSM? If so, how much and what is the spin.

Well I noticed a story about these latest Wikileaks leaks popping up on my Microsoft Messenger news space... a space reserved only for 'news' about Justin Beiber, MTV sitcoms, what Lady Gaga is wearing, and other useless trash-topics to keep people preoccupied with rubbish.

To me that says it ALL.

[iks83]

I am bumping this thread. 

These new leaks are planted imo.  How convenient that these knew Pentagon leaked documents identify Iran as funding the Taliban.  No doubt it is much more effective for a counterculture trusted site to release this convenient info rather than an untrusted mainstream source.

This is the type of info that the mainstream would be all over and that the the Pentagon would want released as they scramble for reasons to go to war with Iran and now conveniently a site that they SAY they dislike releases info that helps them.

It would be a very simple plan for the CIA or Pentagon to forge document label them top secret then leak them to thier "conspiracy site" wikileaks.  IMO Assange is CIA.

I agree with that. Him being on TED already discredited him in my eyes. They only push the population bomb and global warming and all the other crud. It really looks like wikileaks has been established to at first expose real stuff and make it look like it works for the people to get the truth out and then they swing it around publishing some secret documents linking Iran to AlCIAda and the Taliban and Hezbollah and Hamas. Next some secret documents reveal they have a nuke and Osama is hiding in Iran too. Of course when the MSM is publishing that noone will believe it but not the good guy wikileaks nonono. And when it comes out they can say they only publish stuff they get leaked and they messed up the verification.

[dtk]

bump

[worcesteradam]

its been given MEGA MSM coverage
couldnt be any bigger

[RonPaulRocks]

I had a feeling about Assange a long time ago.  I didn't trust him when I heard him interviewed on Al Jazeera english. 

[Dig]

For Julian Assange to have as much info and documents that he has at wikileaks he should know that 9/11 was an inside job.

The people at http://cryptome.org/     http://cryptome.org/ are suspicious about Wikileaks.

Do you know if Assange has been on Alex's show? If no,t I think that he might be controlled because Alex could find the holes in his story. It could be that the info Wikileaks has might be stuff his possible controllers don't mind getting out.

For him to say this shows that he is either bought off or ignorant and stupid. Which one is it?

he cancelled 10 interviews with AJ already