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« on: July 19, 2010, 03:38:54 PM »

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6 hours ago youtube/google restored this film
Veiwcount: 6, 509 624

Veiwcount as of this post: 6,509,635

Google BS

I can confirm the view count was 6, 509 624 nearly 6 hours ago, now its  6,509,635.

this despite thousands of additional comments since the film was restored.

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments=1&v=eAaQNACwaLw
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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2010, 03:41:03 PM »

I have seen that also and i was wondering the same thing.....  Huh Huh Huh Huh
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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2010, 03:42:36 PM »

methinks slow-dog videos will suddenly have multimillion view "hits" coming out of nowhere. they are putting OD in the tar box for a reason. they just can't let us win I guess, sore losers. Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2010, 03:45:31 PM »

These pathetic, cowardly, wannabe Thought Police are obviously too stupid to realize that, the more they try to censor something, the more they validate and popularize it.
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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2010, 03:47:23 PM »

Everyone leave comments about this on the video! Let people know that it only increased by 11 views in SIX HOURS! WTF
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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2010, 03:51:06 PM »

Viewcounts are NOT real-time, at least not on YouTube. It's the same with all videos.
In a few hours there probably will be a few hundred more added to that count... relax.

Upload a video yourself, if you don't believe me. With around 24 hours of video uploaded to the site every MINUTE, do you really expect all of that data tracked in real-time? Across hundreds of thousands of daily video uploads, billions of video views every day?

I know they're tampering with the truth, but that is not the case here.
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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2010, 03:54:11 PM »

if anyone is feeling ambitious, if we can catch what videos they want to pump up before it goes memory hole, we can catch them in the act. I have my own issues like I said, I wouldn't be much help I'm afraid. Does youtube have a trend function too? If we find what they are pushing, I bet they have nothing for comments.

Might even want to "sabotage" their comments by saying "When you are finished here, see THIS viral video!", hehehehe! We'll see how long it lasts with infowar piggybacks. Serve 'em right.
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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2010, 04:02:47 PM »

Viewcounts are NOT real-time, at least not on YouTube. It's the same with all videos.
In a few hours there probably will be a few hundred more added to that count... relax.

Upload a video yourself, if you don't believe me. With around 24 hours of video uploaded to the site every MINUTE, do you really expect all of that data tracked in real-time? Across hundreds of thousands of daily video uploads, billions of video views every day?

I know they're tampering with the truth, but that is not the case here.

It updates the veiwcount every few hours yes, it went for 6 hours on 6, 509 624
Then it updated by 11, but with thousands of extra comments.

On other videos as you say, viewcounts do freeze and update later yes, but by 1000, or, 2000, not 11.
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« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2010, 04:04:15 PM »

A huge amount of the comments are ranting against the view count / comments being voted down or removed.

CALM THE F DOWN PEOPLE.

In the 30 seconds since I've posted my comment, it went to 2 thumbs up back down to 0 votes and now it's got 2 again. THAT is in real-time, and people don't always agree. That's why people will vote your comment down or flag it as spam. Also, if you include a full URL in your comment it won't be posted (spam protection).

And again, view count is not real time. There are so many legit reasons why some things happen, but it takes so little time for a group to get all up in arms for imaginary reasons.

Google/YouTube are censoring assholes, no doubt. But there's nothing to see here. At least for now.

It updates the veiwcount every few hours yes, it went for 6 hours on 6, 509 624
Then it updated by 11, but with thousands of extra comments.

On other videos as you say, viewcounts do freeze and update later yes, but by 1000, or, 2000, not 11.

So? I once had a video stuck at 200, then it went up by less than 10. A few hours later I was in the 10,000's... the "Men who sold the world" on my channel, it was posted on the PP frontpage which got it so many views in a short time, but it took a while for the counter to update.
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« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2010, 04:07:27 PM »



And again, view count is not real time.

i am well aware its not in 'real time' and i assure you i am perfectly calm, but thanks for asking.

it updated by 11, after thousands of comments, and before you say it again, this isn't a reference to a  view count being supposedly 'real time'.
The numbers update every few hours, in this case after six hours, it updated the number by 11, which personally i think is a little weird.
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« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2010, 04:09:44 PM »

i am well aware its not in 'real time' and i assure you i am perfectly calm, but thanks for asking.

it updated by 11, after thousands of comments, and before you say it again, this isn't a reference to a  view count being supposedly 'real time'.
The numbers update every few hours, in this case after six hours, it updated the number by 11, which personally i think is a little weird.


It wasn't so much directed at you than the hundreds of angry comments. Though I can respect the anger directed towards Google...

No, it's not weird. It happens, and in a few hours time it'll be up considerably. (Unless they take down YouTube view counts! But I doubt they could get away with it... nevermind, of course they can!)
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« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2010, 04:13:33 PM »

Yeah after all the censoring that's happened lately by youtube/google how can you not think something is up? At MOST it takes 3 or 4 hours for videos to gain views (usually it'll increase by a few thousand) but in this case it's been 6+ hours and only increased by 11 (when really I'd bet at least 50,000 have viewed it). Smells fishy
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« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2010, 04:16:05 PM »

I have no trust in Google having any integrity or being anywhere near the good side...
But this is not the first time this happens on PP, either view counters being slow or people reacting to it.

So like the previous times what I'm saying is: give it some time.
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« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2010, 04:16:49 PM »

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When you realize that all you're doing by being terrified, and why you're terrified, it's because you're reacting to an older way of life, the one you were born into, changing, and really everything that you thought about that older way of life is more like a Hollywood fiction than a reality. There were no "good old days" and this system has always been here. All they're doing is changing their system, to make it more efficient for themselves, into the next phase, and this has been going on for millennia.

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« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2010, 06:30:49 PM »

The sky is always falling. Everyday it's falling, and I tell people that here's the important thing:



When you realize that all you're doing by being terrified, and why you're terrified, it's because you're reacting to an older way of life, the one you were born into, changing, and really everything that you thought about that older way of life is more like a Hollywood fiction than a reality. There were no "good old days" and this system has always been here. All they're doing is changing their system, to make it more efficient for themselves, into the next phase, and this has been going on for millennia.

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« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2010, 07:24:34 PM »

I'm fairly certain that you have to watch the whole vid for it to add a view to the count.  That's why a lot of people cut endings really close or don't run credits at the end, or have interesting footage rolling during the credits.
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« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2010, 09:02:56 PM »

6,513,999
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« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2010, 09:52:44 PM »

6,513,999
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That's what I call a good day,  4364 views more!
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« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2010, 11:18:43 PM »

6,533,962 views. 20,000 increase... that's still bull
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« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2010, 12:47:27 PM »

I still think CDC's version of the obama deception's view count is inaccurate. Only a 100,000 increase in the last 24 hours? It has easily gotten 250,000.
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« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2010, 02:34:53 PM »

I still think CDC's version of the obama deception's view count is inaccurate. Only a 100,000 increase in the last 24 hours? It has easily gotten 250,000.

A 100,000 increase in 24 hours is huge, large enough to be the exact opposite of what this censoring zeal was supposed to accomplish.
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« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2010, 03:22:34 PM »

A 100,000 increase in 24 hours is huge, large enough to be the exact opposite of what this censoring zeal was supposed to accomplish.

I agree 100,000 is a lot... but it's not huge. When Alex puts up a viral video on the AlexJonesChannel it gets 100,000+ views within 24-36 hours usually. Considering the fact that The Obama Deception was #1 in google trends and that info warriors were spreading it like wild fire, it's a joke that it only got 100,000 views. Also consider the fact that for many hours yesterday the video was getting 10-15 comments a minute, which is absolutely unheard of even for the most viral of viral videos.
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« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2010, 03:34:52 PM »

I agree 100,000 is a lot... but it's not huge. When Alex puts up a viral video on the AlexJonesChannel it gets 100,000+ views within 24-36 hours usually. Considering the fact that The Obama Deception was #1 in google trends and that info warriors were spreading it like wild fire, it's a joke that it only got 100,000 views. Also consider the fact that for many hours yesterday the video was getting 10-15 comments a minute, which is absolutely unheard of even for the most viral of viral videos.

Like you said 100 000+ views within 24-36 hours, we got 100 000 in 24 hours for a movie that was released what, 2 years ago?
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« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2010, 04:25:46 PM »

I didn't catch this myself but multiple people in the comments of The Obama Deception are saying the view count actually just DECREASED from 6.604,495 to 6,604,424! Can anyone confirm this!?
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« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2010, 04:49:47 PM »

I didn't catch this myself but multiple people in the comments of The Obama Deception are saying the view count actually just DECREASED from 6.604,495 to 6,604,424! Can anyone confirm this!?
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« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2010, 04:55:51 PM »

I think this coincides with what they call "a day", "a week", etc. When it's about to click over, they dik with the counters, so nobody thinks much of it, but makes the average go up/down. What we need is someone with video editing to somehow timestamp(BBC world news with time at the tone thangs, but a way without critics saying "you recorded that and snuck it in later")

Maybe if it was posted the minute it happened, the stamp on the upload would suffice. Just don't use the BP cam to synchronize events! Buggier than compost in July!


I'm glad to say I can post picture links once again, albeit loader pages until Photobucket gets their act together. It has been a whole day since they started their "maintenance" on my account, it hasn't gotten deleted, or individual pics taken down, thank goodness. If that happens, I'd like the thread in the intros to come back to general and attached to one of the Google grind threads, let the rest know something going down.

I'd really love it if the social networking site Alex is working on allows me to upoad my pictures, I read the Terms of Service on Photobucket, and they seem to lack a political satire section. Kudos to him for busting butt as is. *thumbs up*
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« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2010, 05:09:20 PM »

Related but unrelated?I have TOD as my feature video.Been that way since yesterday ,however it will not play.I tried redoing the featured video and it still will not play.I like Stevie Nicks or I wouldnt favorite her vids but I wanted any visitors to my channel to see TOD. Angry.
Edit: It has been removed from my favorites list?HuhHuh??WTF?
Edit again:It's back- mucho bizzaro.
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« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2010, 05:19:42 PM »

idk man something still seems fishy. It would be stupid to trust youtube or give them the benefit of the doubt after all the censoring going on with them and google.
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