Please post all of the completely insane COPWATCH stories here

[Viper]

I bet the officer's wifes got a real "seeing to" that night.

[charrington]

To protect and serve.

[charrington]

Looks like they took down page on how they think you are anti patriotic if you talk about an illegal war or the constitution. Pretty telling stuff. Should have taken a screenie.

[freedom_commonsense]

I'm not sure what to make of it, from comments I've seen elsewhere apparently driving off makes him guilty of a crime and entitles the officers to use the force they did, and that the latter is a recognised technique.

Edit: there's also a claim that he attempted to run over one of the officers.

[goforward]

whoa
not all bad

#36
 Quote Originally Posted by FromOhio  View Post
''How do you deal with gore?'' .
I usually ignore him and his "global warming" for profit hypocritical industry.

#38
 Quote Originally Posted by SRT936  View Post
10. When I first meet you, I DON'T KNOW YOU. I may pull my gun on you or yell loud, mean things at you. We can discuss how you're a "normal" law abiding citizen later. I'm not judging you as a bad person, but right now, you look like a possible threat.
^^^^ Well, I never. Here you are, resorting to use of all caps, when we haven't even been properly introduced. And, then there's the OP, starting a thread with "civilians" in all caps. Dude, that is just bad netiquette.

#62
 Quote Originally Posted by IWannaGoFast  View Post
12. We don't think the same way you do.

We are suspicious of everyone. Before we will let our kids have a playdate with your kids, we want to know all about you. Even then, the playdates will start at OUR house until we get get comfortable with you and your kid. We see robbers and rapists on every corner because we know that there ARE robbers and rapists on every corner. No, I will not invite you into my home when you stop by to report that you are a victim of crime rather than dialing 911. When I am on duty, the only friends I have are the ones that wear a badge. YOU are not my friend.

Overly-friendly people are immediately suspect. (What do you want and what are you hiding?) We do not respond well to being called "Buddy", "Pal", "Friend", or "Sweetheart". Next Time, try "Sir"or "Ma'am" (as appropriate). If in doubt, "Officer" always works.

We are not mean or anti-social, just careful. Paranoid, you say? Only slightly.
Damn! I guess you are not the guy they call for any of the community relations function of the job!

I will never understand this, both coming from a small town and also because I have been described as "overly friendly". Even after moving to a more populated area, I have run into cops that didn't seem automatically suspicious of me for starting a conversation.

then again...
#85
There are three kinds of people in the world: 1. Sheep (civilians) 2. Wolf (criminal/terrorist) 3. Sheep dog (police/military). Read ON COMBAT for more info. To me, being a civilian is a state of mind~ not the kind of uniform you are wearing.

#87
It's never personal. I can destroy your life, leave you a crying, shattered mess, seeing me in your nightmares for the rest of your days, cause you to spend your last waking hours staring at cement and steal.... and forget I ever met you five minutes later.

[Viper]

Let's not forget about the good ones, we should make a thread dedicated to the real peace officers, leave it to me.
Space ...the Final frontier, these are the voyages etc.

[charrington]

Check out the rest of that forum...

[charrington]

Let's not forget about the good ones, we should make a thread dedicated to the real peace officers, leave it to me.
Space ...the Final frontier, these are the voyages etc.

Cops do as their told without caring or thinking about rights, emotional affects or life. They just do. The reason you need to be impressed with the Sheriff in AZ is because he is actually using his head and not just doing what the FED's tell him to do.

Cop's fear for their jobs too and will do what it takes to keep them including lie, steal and cheat. I'm in no way saying that anyone should ever break the law however,

Cops take an oath to up hold the constitution or "a constitution" and if the FEDs tell them to take your blood , finger prints, kill your pets on a bad warrant, take your children or follow any of the other laws that are completely illegal and they do, how are they good cops?

That same cop that picks up the "bad guys" is the same cop that tases your 80 year old grandmother in bed because she "made a face" at him. So my question is what is a good Cop and is that really possible anymore?

[charrington]

I started thinking about this in another thread and wanted to see the "temperature" of other members thoughts on this.

If half (or more) the laws currently in place are illegal and cops follow the laws without question or objection, can there really be a thing such as a "good cop"?

[charrington]

Mendocino Major Crimes Task Force agents, aided by a uniformed Willits police officer, serving a search warrant at 64 Franklin Avenue on July 27, shot and killed a family pet, an 8-year-old half-pit bull mix named Tonka.

When agents searched the home, they found nothing directly linking the residents to the arrest of Craig Anthony Gelber, the target of the search, according to MMCTF Commander Bob Nishiyama.

Nishiyama alleges Gelber sold chemicals used for the manufacture of methamphetamine to undercover agents and had been observed at the 64 Franklin Avenue location with marijuana starts. That same day, search warrants were served at locations in Livermore and Covelo in the same case. In Covelo, officers found a 300-plus plant marijuana grow site. Gelber was arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to commit a crime.

"I know the officer felt terrible," says Nishiyama about the shooting. "You may have the nicest dog in the world, but we don't know it. Officers are authorized to defend themselves. We offered to take the dog and take care of it, but the family preferred to handle the arrangements themselves."

http://www.willitsnews.com/ci_15676209

[One Revelator]

Depends on the overall organization’s accountability or lack thereof.

The Prison Planet Forum threads reflecting local sheriffs’ attitudes look to be “good” because there is recognition of accountability towards constituents (**local** community).

Federal LE has no accountability to citizens because, at the top, that loop no longer exists.

State LE is iffy and reflects the depth of State executive/legislative ties to federal mandates and funding.  This has manifested through “fusion” centers, for instance.

So, yes, it is possible.  Certain county sheriffs  and their deputies prove this.

[One Revelator]

Example of dissociation to justify how they’re told to behave:

It's never personal. I can destroy your life, leave you a crying, shattered mess, seeing me in your nightmares for the rest of your days, cause you to spend your last waking hours staring at cement and steal.... and forget I ever met you five minutes later.

And a statement revealing who and what controls their behavior:

3) Maybe I was picked on in high school and was bad at sports. Maybe I have no friends, am sexually deficient, need a gun to feel important and wasn't man enough for the military or smart enough for college. If you want to believe those things about a total stranger, fine. But that's the guy who makes six figures (after overtime,) makes the gangstas go inside, gets hit on outside every bar AND TOOK YOU DOWN.

[charrington]

Depends on the overall organization’s accountability or lack thereof.

The Prison Planet Forum threads reflecting local sheriffs’ attitudes look to be “good” because there is recognition of accountability towards constituents (**local** community).

Federal LE has no accountability to citizens because, at the top, that loop no longer exists.

State LE is iffy and reflects the depth of State executive/legislative ties to federal mandates and funding.  This has manifested through “fusion” centers, for instance.

So, yes, it is possible.  Certain county sheriffs  and their deputies prove this.

You mean they prove this when they are not following federal laws that displace the constitution rights of citizens? So it's ok then to break some laws as long as you take the "peoples" side periodically?

There are good people enforcing the bad laws which really are they? Which side do they do the most good for?

[charrington]

Example of dissociation to justify how they’re told to behave:
And a statement revealing who and what controls their behavior:

So telling as to their motivations.

[One Revelator]

I’m talking about folks like this…

Sheriff Tony DeMeo Threatens Force Against Federal Agents - Civil War Looms!
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=182085.0

…that have local jurisdiction and the authority to remove or arrest any armed federal agents that violate the constitutional rights of his/her constituents.  One of DeMeo’s statements was that he had to explain to the Feds where they derive their authority from—the people they serve.  Not the “law”.  Not the government.  Not even the Constitution.

As far as federal laws/mandates that violate constitutional rights of a state citizen, state governments can and have refused federal dictates.  Examples are real ID and, I think, Obamacare that some states have simply declared “no” to.

There are some mechanisms in place to help correct runaway federal government.

[One Revelator]

So telling as to their motivations.

Their attitudes have been intentionally shaped by the people that put them there.  Such motivations ensure that they are easily controllable.

[America2]

Well, FWIW, I'm in the Accounting field, although I've been layed off for 2 years now and counting - I can honestly say that although I myself tried to be "honest", frankly, for obvious reasons in the Tax field in particular, there's really no such thing as a "good" accountant over the last 100 years.

Paying taxes off of your personal paychecks is unconstitutional, however, accountants including myself are only aiding the government in thievery.

[Scribble]

3) Maybe I was picked on in high school and was bad at sports. Maybe I have no friends, am sexually deficient, need a gun to feel important and wasn't man enough for the military or smart enough for college. If you want to believe those things about a total stranger, fine. But that's the guy who makes six figures (after overtime,) makes the gangstas go inside, gets hit on outside every bar AND TOOK YOU DOWN.

Poor, sick f**ker will never get to experience all that is beyond his retarded junior high mentality, and his state appointed power will most definetly be a tragedy for a good person somewhere.

[charrington]

3) Maybe I was picked on in high school and was bad at sports. Maybe I have no friends, am sexually deficient, need a gun to feel important and wasn't man enough for the military or smart enough for college. If you want to believe those things about a total stranger, fine. But that's the guy who makes six figures (after overtime,) makes the gangstas go inside, gets hit on outside every bar AND TOOK YOU DOWN.

Poor, sick f**ker will never get to experience all that is beyond his retarded junior high mentality, and his state appointed power will most definetly be a tragedy for a good person somewhere.

I think thats pretty much it .. they are stunted mentally. At least some are.

[Scribble]

Yeah, that's thing,"at least some are", I swear I go back and forth on my opinion of cops on a daily basis.  Because I KNOW cops that are actually people, they don't really like me inparticular  ... but they are definetly not freaked out babies with large bodies, like many.

[charrington]

Well, FWIW, I'm in the Accounting field, although I've been layed off for 2 years now and counting - I can honestly say that although I myself tried to be "honest", frankly, for obvious reasons in the Tax field in particular, there's really no such thing as a "good" accountant over the last 100 years.

Paying taxes off of your personal paychecks is unconstitutional, however, accountants including myself are only aiding the government in thievery.

I don't think anyone can be not guilty in this area do you? We all pay taxes some of which is used to by the military equipment that kills innocent people. Everyone supports the system in some way or the system would fail instantly.

It bothers me that Law enforcement can't stand up for what it should and can't enforce what they swore to.

[charrington]

Yeah, that's thing,"at least some are", I swear I go back and forth on my opinion of cops on a daily basis.  Because I KNOW cops that are actually people, they don't really like me inparticular  ... but they are definetly not freaked out babies with large bodies, like many.

Did it matter to the Jews if the prison guards were "nice guys" as they were getting shoved in the ovens? Thats the issue I have. If they really are "one of us" they need to start acting like they are - man up, get brave and start up holding the things they swore to do.

[charrington]

I'm not sure what to make of it, from comments I've seen elsewhere apparently driving off makes him guilty of a crime and entitles the officers to use the force they did, and that the latter is a recognised technique.

Edit: there's also a claim that he attempted to run over one of the officers.

Of course they did ... problem is now they have lied so much you can't believe a word they say.

[Scribble]

Well, I would expand THAT responsibilty to everyone, not just the cops.

[charrington]

Well, I would expand THAT responsibilty to everyone, not just the cops.

You actually can't because of Cops - try it and I'll bail you out That's really my point. They are NOT on our side of the fence.

[Scribble]

You actually can't because of Cops - try it and I'll bail you out That's really my point. They are NOT on our side of the fence.

I see your point.

[Fenian]

Here's a forum for New York City Cops..

http://theerant.yuku.com/forums/58

Whenever a big story hits the MSM I check it out to see their spin.

[freedom_commonsense]

Of course they did ... problem is now they have lied so much you can't believe a word they say.

This was cited in another forum as reason for not believing Whatley:

http://archive.southwalesargus.co.uk/2004/7/30/58738.html

[goforward]

also what's interesting is the definition of civilian
Black's Law 8th ed

civilian, n 1. a person not serving in the military. 2. A lawyer practicing in civil-law jurisdiction. -Also termed civilista. 3. A scholar in civil or Roman law.

so police are civilians in the laws eyes
 

[America2]

I don't think anyone can be not guilty in this area do you? We all pay taxes some of which is used to by the military equipment that kills innocent people. Everyone supports the system in some way or the system would fail instantly.

It bothers me that Law enforcement can't stand up for what it should and can't enforce what they swore to.

I was walking out of church late this morning, and my area was SLAMMED with chemtrails. If anything, people at the lower levels AREN'T BAD, per se, but at the very least, they've been either brainwashed and/or mind-controlled to do these things - either at the education-institution level, or when they're getting trained.

When I was in school studying Accounting, the curriculum did just that - brainwash us into thinking we can achieve power and making lots of money, instead of being good servants to the public.

Same with law enforcement - no, I don't think all cops are evil, they're just brainwashed in their respective police academies.

[charrington]

Here's a forum for New York City Cops..

http://theerant.yuku.com/forums/58

Whenever a big story hits the MSM I check it out to see their spin.

Interesting comments in here too...

[charrington]

August 8, 2010, Harlem NY]-----5 civilians and 2 Police Officers were shot early this morning in NYC. One of the civilians later died in the hospital.According to NYPD spokesman Sgt. Carlos Nieves, the shooting occurred early Sunday, around 2:30 a.m., near 144th St. and 145 St. in Harlem New York.The Associated Press reported that Angel Alvarez, 23, shot and killed Luis Soto 22, then turned around and had a shoot-out with 5 responding police officers.Alvarez's family said he was shot 21 times by Police but survived and is still hospitalized. 3 other civilians were shot in the exchange and are reportedly hospitalized. One of the Police Officers shot, Officer Michael Tedeschi, 36, is also hospitalized at Columbia Presbyterian. The other, Officer Alfredo Vargas, 28, was treated for minor injuries and released.


http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/6471658-5-civilians-shot-in-nyc-plus-2-police-officers-1-person-dead

[charrington]

A Live Oak man was arrested on suspicion of indecent exposure after pulling his shorts down to show a deputy he had no weapon, a Sutter County Sheriff's Department spokeswoman said Monday.

Justin Sean Stonecypher, 23, of the 10200 block of O Street, was arrested at 11:39 p.m. Sunday and was being held Monday in Sutter County Jail on $20,000 bail.

The incident began when Stonecypher's mother tried to call the Sheriff's Department to report that he and two other men were intoxicated and arguing. Stonecypher "disabled" the phone, said spokeswoman Brenda Baker.

A deputy arrived and found Stonecypher "agitated and aggressive." When the male deputy routinely asked if he had a weapon, Stonecypher stepped back and dropped his shorts around his ankles to show that he didn't, said Baker.

Stonecypher was arrested on suspicion of two felony charges: indecent exposure and damaging a phone line.

http://www.appeal-democrat.com/news/stonecypher-97902-sheriff-arrested.html

[charrington]

GREENVILLE, S.C. — South Carolina authorities say a man died after being hit with a stun gun during a tussle with police.

Multiple media outlets report 39-year-old Andrew Torres was pronounced dead at a Greenville hospital Monday evening, following an altercation that also slightly injured a police officer.

Greenville police told WYFF-TV that family members had asked officers to take Torres into custody for involuntary psychiatric commitment. Police spokesman Jason Rampey says two officers used their Tasers when it turned violent. The officers’ names haven’t been released.


http://www.bostonherald.com/news/national/south/view/20100810sc_man_dies_after_being_tasered/srvc=home&position=recent

[charrington]

The FBI and the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division are investigating possible civil rights violations in the case of a sheriff's deputy who was captured on video beating a handcuffed inmate with a baton.
The Kershaw County Sheriff's deputy was fired after an August 5 surveillance video showed him hitting the inmate dozens of times with a baton, authorities said Monday.

The video shows the deputy leading the handcuffed man from a van toward the jail. The deputy then pulls out his baton and begins swinging it repeatedly at the man's legs, bashing him until he falls to the ground.
Once the man is on the ground, the deputy continues to hit him as at least two other deputies look on. The deputy helps the man up at one point only to slam his face against the hood of the van, the video footage shows.

The man was hit 27 times, CNN-affiliate WIS reported. The beating broke the man's left leg just above the ankle and put a gash in the man's other leg that required stitches, the affiliate reported.
The state police agency released a statement from Kershaw County Sheriff Steve McCaskill.


(Video)
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/08/10/south.carolina.baton.beating/

[charrington]

While we've seen that copyright infringement -- which really should be a civil issue dealt with between private parties -- has suddenly become a major priority for the FBI, it appears that the FBI has stopped caring about things that seem a lot more important.

Earlier this year, we noted that the FBI had stopped considering identity fraud as a priority. Now, a new report notes that another thing the FBI appears to not care much about are missing persons cases. Specifically, the FBI has consciously decided to give such cases lower priority in the FBI's laboratory, which is used to look at DNA evidence. This has created a massive backlog in missing persons cases.

A new report from the Justice Department's Inspector General notes that this has serious consequences:
"Backlogs can also prevent the timely capture of criminals, prolong the incarceration of innocent people who could be exonerated by DNA evidence, and adversely affect families of missing persons waiting for positive identification of remains."

Perhaps I'm missing something, but doesn't it seem like missing persons cases and identity fraud are the sorts of things the FBI should be working on, as they're cases where individuals can be seriously harmed? Copyright cases are really just business model issues, where the only "harm" is caused by copyright holders refusal to adapt to a changing market. Isn't it time the FBI got its priorities straight?

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100809/17262010563.shtml

[charrington]

An Indianapolis police officer tested at more than twice the legal limit for alcohol when he crashed his squad car into two motorcycles, killing one rider and critically injuring two others, according to a victim's relative.

Chief Paul Ciesielski confirmed Tuesday that Officer David Bisard tested positive for alcohol shortly after the crash that killed Eric Wells and injured Mary Mills and Kurt Weekly. Ciesielski and a spokeswoman with the Marion County prosecutor's office said additional details from the investigation will be released Wednesday.

IMPD officials declined to confirm Bisard's blood-alcohol level, but Wells' father said the family received word from the prosecutor's office that Bisard's blood-alcohol level tested at .19 percent. Under Indiana law, a driver is presumed drunk at .08 percent.

"We were absolutely numbed," Aaron Wells, 58, said. "You just never dream of a law enforcement officer who is sworn to protect the public being behind the wheel of a police cruiser at a high rate of speed, drunk."

The accident happened about 11:20 a.m. Friday at 56th Street and Brendon Way South Drive. Bisard, a canine officer, was responding to a request for assistance on a felony warrant and had his emergency lights and siren operating, police said.

Wells, 30, suffered head injuries and died. Weekly, 44, and Mills, 47, were injured and remained at Methodist Hospital Tuesday.

http://www.indystar.com/article/20100810/NEWS/100810029/IMPD-Officer-in-fatal-crash-was-impaired

[Nailer]

the deputy should have been arrested for assault with a deadly weapon.  I hope the inmate sues and wins in court

[lamourlady]

The dude was cuffed for heaven's sake.  Brutality indeed!  He looked like he was taking out some major anger there.

[iks83]

Those deputies who looked on should be fired and sued too.