Please post all of the completely insane COPWATCH stories here

[charrington]

How could four men confess to a brutal crime that they didn't commit? Inside the incredible saga of the Norfolk Four -- a case that cracks open the justice system to reveal almost everything that goes wrong when innocent people get convicted.

Watch Video
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/the-confessions/

[Freeski]

That has to be one of the most disgusting travesties of justice ever!

This Ford asshole will be tried in 2011? I don't believe in capital punishment but he's certainly near my list of top prospects. He, the "master interrogator", manufactures and rehearses confessions before taping them -- confessions which juries naturally buy. He is the ultimate cancer in our corrupt piece of shit "Just Us" systems. Excuse the profanity but sometimes it's called for.

The lead investigator (the woman), Ford, the police in general, the media and the state government should all be hung out to dry for their sickening and conspired destruction of way too many lives.

And the defence lawyers? Don't get me started! I'll leave that to The Eagles.

From their When Hell Freezes Over album, Get Over It...

You say you haven’t been the same since you had your little crash
But you might feel better if I gave you some cash
The more I think about it, old billy was right
Let’s kill all the lawyers, kill ’em tonight
You don’t want to work, you want to live like a king
But the big, bad world doesn’t owe you a thing

Get over it
Get over it
If you don’t want to play, then you might as well split
Get over it, get over i

I ain't for killing anybody, ever, but damn -- these assholes at least need a slap in the head.

I just hope these guys can someday get themselves a "normal" life.

[charrington]

He kept asking Orange County sheriff’s deputies why they were searching him, then why they were hurting him. Finally, his questions turned to screams of pain.

His cries reverberated on a dark street in Laguna Niguel late Dec. 23, 2006, and off the walls of the Orange County Jail as the clock ticked into Christmas Eve.

Radwan, diagnosed with bipolar disorder, was handcuffed, placed in leg irons, smashed against the hood of a police car and shot with a Taser.

At the jail, his right shoulder was dislocated.

Radwan, nearly four years later, still wants to know why he was treated so forcefully. This time, he is asking his questions in federal court.

Radwan sued the county and six sheriff’s deputies, alleging excessive force and misrepresenting the facts to avoid discipline and civil action. The case is awaiting trial.

Sheriff’s officials declined comment on the case.

The department has been in the headlines several times lately for allegations of excessive force. In October, the county paid $449,400 to Toy White, who was allegedly assaulted on her doorstep by deputies. And in May, the county agreed to pay $200,000 to a man who was tackled by a deputy while hugging his mother in the street. The county this year also paid $750,000 to settle the suit of a man who was kneed in the head and shot with a stun gun while he was handcuffed in 2006.

In the Radwan case, cameras mounted on the patrol cars that night, and carried by a deputy at the jail, caught the ordeal. The Watchdog has obtained the videos. All of the deputies carried belt microphones, but none were activated as required by policy.

What did Radwan do to deserve such treatment? Deputies wrote in their report that he pushed back with his body while being searched, and that he tensed his leg muscles while jailers tried to restrain him.

Radwan’s crime: possessing three ornamental knives in his SUV, in what deputies alleged was a violation of a court restraining order. The knives were gifts for his father, Radwan said. Deputies also found pepper spray and less than an ounce of marijuana.

Radwan says the deputies were mistaken in their interpretation of the restraining order, which only forbade him from carrying firearms. Radwan at the time was awaiting trial on charges of robbery, which were ultimately dismissed for lack of evidence. He pleaded guilty to possession of nunchakus, a martial arts weapon.

Radwan’s ordeal with deputies started about 9:30 p.m. on December 23, 2006, at the corner of Paseo de Colinas and Golden Lantern. According to his lawsuit, Radwan and his girlfriend, Cassandra Fults, were arguing after a day of Christmas shopping.

Radwan, in an interview, said he kicked a tire on his Range Rover. A passerby saw the animated Radwan and called police. Deputies arrived, talked with Radwan and searched him. They placed him in a patrol car and searched his SUV, sifting through gifts. At one point deputies can be seen on video toying with two “Star Wars”-type light sabers they found.

Reserve Deputy Mark Hergesheimer is called to transport Radwan to the jail, but he gets lost en route to the scene. At one point, the microphone in the patrol car catches Hergesheimer saying, “God, I’m getting pissed now,” after making one of several U-turns.

Finally arriving at the scene, Hergesheimer can be heard on the video responding, “I’ll get him good,” after being told that Radwan had already been searched. This time, Radwan’s face was bashed into the hood of a patrol car, causing his glasses to cut the bridge of his nose.

When he protested, he was taken off camera and hit with a Taser, although he was already bound. In 2009, the hazards of electronic control devices prompted the Sheriff’s Department to amend its policy, prohibiting their use on handcuffed individuals, absent overly assaultive behavior.

On the way to the jail, Hergesheimer radioed that he had an “uncooperative.” Radwan insisted from the back seat of the squad car that he was cooperative.  A group of deputies in latex gloves were already waiting to escort Radwan when the patrol car pulled into the jail.

Deputies pulled Radwan out of the car as he screamed that he could not walk because the cuffs were tearing into his ankles. Deputies picked him up by his leg chains and carried him into the jail. At one point, a jailer stepped on the leg chains, causing the cuffs to bite further into his skin.

In a medical exam room, Joshua screamed while his body was contorted by deputies as they removed his cuffs and stripped off his outer garments. His shoulder was dislocated, Radwan says, preventing him from responding to a nurse’s questions.

Prosecutors, based on sheriff’s reports, charged Radwan with resisting police officers, but the charges were later dismissed.

Radwan, now 29, says he’s not suing the deputies for money. The entrepreneur, who comes from a wealthy family, is involved in a variety of businesses that allow him to live comfortably.

“I made the decision to bring a lawsuit against these deputies while they were...
http://taxdollars.ocregister.com/2010/11/10/video-did-deputies-use-excessive-force/67844/

[charrington]

An Orleans Parish public defender has filed a federal civil rights lawsuit against the Sheriff's Office, claiming that deputies roughed him up and slapped "false and malicious" charges on him last winter as he was fighting for the release of a wrongly arrested man.

Stuart Weg filed the lawsuit on his own at U.S. District Court, paying the $350 filing fee and retaining attorneys Stephen Haedicke and Gary Bizal.
Sheriff Marlin Gusman and two deputies were served by the federal court on Nov. 8. Their written responses to the suit are due by Nov. 29.

Chief Public Defender Derwyn Bunton said that he isn't taking a position on Weg's lawsuit. But Bunton said judges at the Tulane Avenue courthouse play fast and loose when it comes to ordering the arrest of lawyers, on both the defense and prosecution sides, during heated court hearings.

Weg's lawsuit, filed Nov. 4, stems from his arrest in Judge Ben Willard's Section C on Dec. 4, 2009, when the public defender said he couldn't believe Willard would not order the release of a man wrongly arrested because his name was similar to the suspect.

The man, Tyrone L. Claiborne, had been in jail for 10 days when Weg demanded his release.

"Go find Tyrone," Willard ordered Weg, according to a transcript of the hearing included in Weg's lawsuit.

Weg was booked by deputies with battery, criminal trespass and resisting arrest. The charges were dismissed in March.

After the incident, Bunton sent a letter to the state judiciary commission reporting that Weg was the second public defender physically removed from Willard's courtroom in 2009.

In the Municipal Court gist, a deputy wrote that Weg "turn(ed) around and struck" the deputy and refused to leave.

Weg was taken to the ground during the incident, the suit says, and a deputy identified only as S. Livingston "positioned himself on Weg's back and placed Weg in a chokehold around his neck."

Another deputy, called E. Gray in the suit, "then hit and kicked Weg about his head and body as he lay on the court's anteroom floor, causing him to suffer bruised ribs and other injuries."

The dust-up took place over Willard's resistance to release a man after prosecutors determined he was wrongly arrested.

The man, Tyrone Claiborne, had been mistakenly arrested on a warrant meant for a man with the same birthday named Tyrane Claborne. The wanted man had failed to pay his fines and fees while in the Section C drug court after pleading guilty to attempted heroin possession with...
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2010/11/public_defender_sues_sheriffs.html

[charrington]

MANKATO, Minn. - Imagine shopping with your family and winding up tasered and arrested in a busy store parking lot. The FOX 9 Investigators have gotten security camera video of what led up to that arrest. And when the video and the police tell two different stories, who can you believe?

Greg Ortega says the tasering he received left him with 14 holes in the back of his leg. It began with his family's biweekly trip to Wal-Mart a year ago. He says almost right away he noticed two guys following him as they worked their way through the store.

He says, “I grabbed my son by the arm and I told them excuse me, do you work here. Why the hell are you following me? He got really nervous, started panicking. He said, no, I'm shopping. Do you think I'm following you?”

Since the guy had denied he was a store employee, Ortega says he worried he was watching the kids.

“I said, yeah, if you and a white guy don't stop following me, I'm going to punch you out.”

He says he saw the other man as they were getting ready to leave the store.

“I told them, I go, hey what's going on. Are you guys following me? You must work here. And he looks at me and goes, no there's no problem.”

Here's where the security cameras pick up the story. The Ortegas pay and their kids play for bit on the games near the door. The Ortegas leave the store. According to a Wal-Mart security officer’s statement, there are Mankato police officers and a sheriff's deputy waiting. They bring him back inside. The two guys who have been following him are there, too. They are Wal-Mart undercover security officers after all. They accuse him of shoplifting a cell phone case.

Ortega says, “I said search me, you search all my pockets.”

They found no stolen cell phone case but they accuse him of threatening the security guy. Ortega says they agree to let him go as long as he signs something saying he won't come back to the Wal-Mart for six months.

The video shows the Ortega family leaving Wal-Mart and that is where Ortega and the officers start telling different stories. The FOX 9 Investigators ask a University of Minnesota criminal law expert to review the security video tape.

Professor Barry Feld when Ortega is actually told he's under arrest really matters because it affects when and how police can use force on him. The video shows Ortega walking to his car on his own.

Feld says, “It's worth emphasizing that because he's walking in one direction and the group of officers were all walking in the other direction that's inconsistent with somebody being in custody.”

So in essence Ortega leaves the Wal-Mart a free man. However that was hardly the case.

Ortega says, “As I'm walking out one of the officers starts telling me I better not show up at Wal-Mart again for six months or I'll get arrested for trespassing. So as we're walking, my girlfriend starts telling me if I thought it felt like I was discriminated against we should get a lawyer. One of the officers says, we'll get a lawyer. My daughter's crying and she says what's going on and I told her it's just a bunch of racist cops who don't like daddy.”

And that's when he said they swarmed him. Video from two security cameras confirm he is surrounded by officers as he gets to his car but not until he gets to his car. This is important because two police officers write in their reports that Ortega was under arrest as he left the store. Clearly not what the video shows.

Professor Feld says, “Why would they say he's in custody when he isn't? I'm purely speculating but they may be protecting themselves from liability.”

Liability because of what comes next. Police say Ortega was swearing at them, threatening them as they removed him from the store and when they tried to arrest him for that he struggled.

Professor, “Yelling and screaming certainly could be described as disorderly conduct.”

Ortega says he didn't say anything to the officers. That they didn't like what he was saying to his wife and daughters as he walked to his car. Unfortunately there's no audio on the tape.

Ortega says, “I felt an officer hit me in the side of my head. I asked him what are you doing? I felt another officer throw me against the car. And I felt two people were punching me in the back of the head."

The cameras are too ...
http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/dpp/news/investigators-who-can-you-believe-nov-11-2010

[charrington]

A 37-year-old parolee was carrying a small, silver scale -- not a weapon -- when Oakland officers fatally shot him during a foot chase this week, police said Friday.

Police said two officers chasing Derrick Jones on Monday night believed he had a weapon when he appeared to be reaching toward his waistband for a shiny metal object that turned out to be an electronic scale less than 1-inch thick. One officer saw the object in Jones' hand before police opened fire, authorities said.

Jones' death has prompted accusations of excessive force, with his friends and family saying the shooting was unjustified.

The shooting came just days after the sentencing of former transit police officer Johannes Mehserle, who fatally shot another unarmed man on an Oakland train platform on New Year's Day 2009.

Mehserle's two-year sentence for involuntary manslaughter sparked protests by supporters of the victim, Oscar Grant, saying the punishment was too light.

On Thursday, about 100 demonstrators for Jones and Grant marched from a barber shop Jones' owned to the same train station where Grant was killed, shutting it down to passengers for an hour.

A smaller protest with dozens of demonstrators was held Friday afternoon.

Officer Jeffrey Thomason, a police spokesman, said Friday that Jones was also carrying marijuana in a glass jar inside a pocket when he was shot.

"All I know is that Mr. Jones did not point any item at the police, did not put his hands in his waistband and he had no weapon," Burris said. "And the fact that he had marijuana, so what? None of that justifies being shot and killed."
http://www.salon.com/wires/us/2010/11/12/D9JEV0301_us_oakland_police_shooting/index.html[/b]

[charrington]

Two Kansas City police officers who thought they were being shot at from inside a van returned fire Thursday night.

Only later did police realize that the van was actually backfiring and the man inside was not armed. He was not injured by the shots fired by police.

Windows of the police car were apparently shot out by the officers as they exited the patrol car.

The officers were dispatched on a report of shots being fired from a white van just before 6 p.m. Thursday on Gregory Boulevard near Interstate 435.

When the officers got to the area they saw a white van parked on Gregory and pulled up near it.

http://www.kansascity.com/2010/11/12/2425221/kc-police-fire-at-backfiring-van.html

[charrington]

In the midst of swirling controversy about cops and cameras, Luis Luna was put under arrest for filming police in action—not by a rogue patrolman misunderstanding official department policy, but by none other than the assistant chief of police.

Luis Luna (pictured), a 26-year-old from Wallingford, was arrested on College Street early in the morning of Sept. 25 while he was using his iPhone to videotape police.

According to a police report, his arrest was ordered by Assistant Chief Ariel Melendez, who had told him not to film police breaking up a fight. Read the report here.

Luna said police took his iPhone from him and erased the video he had made. He was charged with interfering with police and spent the night in jail.

Assistant Chief Melendez (at left in photo) did not respond to requests for comment this week. Chief Frank Limon (at right) declined to comment on the propriety of Melendez’s order to arrest Luna. He reiterated his previous statements that it is not illegal to film police.

The chief has made those statements in response to recent complaints of police interfering with people’s right to photograph or videotape police in public places. The department is currently investigating several incidents in which police allegedly ordered people to put away camera phones or even snatched them out of people’s hands.
Video of one of these incidents, on Sept. 10 on Crown Street, shows an officer saying “You don’t take pictures of us,” before taking a camera from a man who was recording footage of an arrest in progress. Click the play arrow to watch that clip.

The cops-and-cameras complaints are part of a larger controversy involving allegations of physical and verbal abuse by New Haven police. The charges stem largely from “Operation Nightlife,” the police crackdown on clubs on Crown Street that began in September in response to a downtown shootout that left two hospitalized. The operation included an Oct. 2 raid on a private Yale party, using SWAT cops. That raid—overseen by Assistant Chief Melendez—prompted an outcry from Yale students who felt their rights were violated.

Luna said he feels his rights were violated too.

Here’s what he said happened on Sept 25, on the first night of Operation Nightlife:

Luna, who works at a Verizon call center in Wallingford, had been hanging out with some friends at Anna Liffey’s bar on Whitney Avenue. When the bar closed at 2 a.m., he hopped on his bike and went looking for something to eat. As he pedaled down Crown Street, he saw officers arresting three people on College Street just south of Crown, alongside Co-op Arts and ...
http://newhavenindependent.org/index.php/archives/entry/videotaper_arrested_by_top_police_brass/id_31144

[charrington]

PHOENIX - A judge has blocked an effort by Phoenix police to fire an officer accused of killing an unarmed man.

Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Donald Daughton issued a preliminary injunction Wednesday preventing Chief Jack Harris from firing 36-year-old officer Richard Chrisman.

Chrisman is charged with second-degree murder, aggravated assault and animal cruelty following the Oct. 5 shooting of 29-year-old Danny Frank Rodriguez at a south Phoenix trailer park....
http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_phoenix_metro/central_phoenix/phoenix-officer-charged-with-murder-keeps-his-job

[Kilika]

Depending on what was on the video, erasing the video might be considered tampering with evidence. Why else would they not want any video of them in action? Any reasonable person knows why.

[kushfiend]

Let's just put the sorrenos or some Blood gangsters in charge of the police, at least then ppl would understand that all cops are gangsters with badges. I've never seen a cop help anyone in my entire 24 years of life, but I have bben falsely arrested, along with a good 20 ppl Ive known.

Police suck and have no purpose. O can defend myself from crime, but not the criminal law enforcement system.

[charrington]

[These events took place roughly between 5:30 and 6:30 AM, November 13th in Terminal 2 of the San Diego International Airport. I'm writing this approximately 2 1/2 hours after the events transpired, and they are correct to the best of my recollection. I will admit to being particularly fuzzy on the exact order of events when dealing with the agents after getting my ticket refunded; however, all of the events described did occur.

I had my phone recording audio and video of much of these events. It can be viewed below.

Please spread this story as far and wide as possible. I will make no claims to copyright or otherwise.]

This morning, I tried to fly out of San Diego International Airport but was refused by the TSA. I had been somewhat prepared for this eventuality. I have been reading about the millimeter wave and backscatter x-ray machines and the possible harm to health as well as the vivid pictures they create of people's naked bodies. Not wanting to go through them, I had done my  research on the TSA's website prior to traveling to see if SAN had them. From all indications, they did not. When I arrived at the security line, I found that the TSA's website was out of date. SAN does in fact utilize backscatter x-ray machines.

I made my way through the line toward the first line of "defense": the TSA ID checker. This agent looked over my boarding pass, looked over my ID, looked at me and then back at my ID. After that, he waved me through. SAN is still operating metal detectors, so I walked over to one of the lines for them. After removing my shoes and making my way toward the metal detector, the person in front of me in line was pulled out to go through the backscatter machine. After asking what it was and being told, he opted out. This left the machine free, and before I could go through the metal detector, I was pulled out of line to go through the backscatter machine. When asked, I half-chuckled and said, "I don't think so." At this point, I was informed that I would be subject to a pat down, and I waited for another agent.

A male agent (it was a female who had directed me to the backscatter machine in the first place), came and waited for me to get my bags and then directed me over to the far corner of the area for screening. After setting my things on a table, he turned to me and began to explain that he was going to do a "standard" pat down. (I thought to myself, "great, not one of those gropings like I've been reading about".) After he described, the pat down, I realized that he intended to touch my groin. After he finished his description but before he started the pat down, I looked him straight in the eye and said, "if you touch my junk, I'll have you arrested." He, a bit taken aback, informed me that he would have to involve his supervisor because of my comment.

We both stood there for no more than probably two minutes before a female TSA agent (apparently, the supervisor) arrived. She described to me that because I had opted out of the backscatter screening, I would now be patted down, and that involved running hands up the inside of my legs until they felt my groin. I stated that I would not allow myself to be subject to a molestation as a condition of getting on my flight. The supervisor informed me that it was a standard administrative security check and that they were authorized to do it. I repeated that I felt what they were doing was a sexual assault, and that if they were anyone but the government, the act would be illegal. I believe that I was then informed that if I did not submit to the inspection, I would not be getting on my flight. I again stated that I thought the search was illegal. I told her that I would be willing to submit to a walk through the metal detector as over 80% of the rest of the people were doing, but I would not be groped. The supervisor, then offered to go get her supervisor.

I took a seat in a tiny metal chair next to the table with my belongings and waited. While waiting, I asked the original agent (who was supposed to do the pat down) if he had many people opt out to which he replied, none (or almost none, I don't remember exactly). He said that I gave up a lot of rights when I bought my ticket. I replied that the government took them away after September 11th. There was silence until the next supervisor arrived. A few minutes later, the female agent/supervisor arrived with a man in a suit (not a uniform).


He gave me a business card identifying him as David Silva, Transportation Security Manager, San Diego International Airport. At this point, more TSA agents as well as what I assume was a local police officer arrived on the scene and surrounded the area where I was being detained. The female supervisor explained the situation to Mr. Silva. After some quick back and forth (that I didn't understand/hear), I could overhear Mr. Silva say something to the effect of, "then escort him from the airport." I again offered to submit to the metal detector, and my father-in-law, who was near by also tried to plead for some reasonableness on the TSA's part.

The female supervisor took my ID at this point and began taking some kind of report with which I cooperated. Once she had finished, I asked if I could put my shoes back on. I was allowed to put my shoes back on and gather my belongs. I asked, "are we done here" (it was clear at this point that I was going to be escorted out), and the local police officer said, "follow me". I followed him around the side of the screening area and back out to the ticketing area. I said apologized to him for the hassle, to which he replied that it was not a problem.

I made my way over to the American Airlines counter, explained the situation, and asked if my ticket could be refunded. The woman behind the counter furiously typed away for about 30 seconds before letting me know that she would need a supervisor. She went to the other end of the counter. When she returned, she informed me that the ticket was non-refundable, but that she was still trying to find a supervisor. After a few more minutes, she was able to refund my ticket. I told her that I had previously had a bad experience with American Airlines and had sworn never to fly with them again (I rationalized this trip since my father-in-law had paid for the ticket), but that after her helpfulness, I would once again be willing to use their carrier again.

At this point, I thought it was all over. I began to make my way to the stairs to exit the airport, when I was approached by another man in slacks and a sport coat. He was accompanied by the officer that had escorted me to the ticketing area and Mr. Silva. He informed me that I could not leave the airport. He said that once I start the screening in the secure area, I could not leave until it was completed. Having left the area, he stated, I would be subject to a civil suit and a $10,000 fine. I asked him if he was also going to fine the 6 TSA agents and the local police officer who escorted me from the secure area. After all, I did exactly what I was told.

He said that they didn't know the rules, and that he would deal with them later. They would not be subject to civil penalties. I then pointed to Mr. Silva and asked if he would be subject to any penalties. He is the agents' supervisor, and he directed them to escort me out. The man informed me that Mr. Silva was new and he would not be subject to penalties, either. He again asserted the necessity that I return to the screening area. When I asked why, he explained that I may have an incendiary device and whether or not that was true needed to be determined. I told him that I would submit to a walk through the metal detector, but that was it;

I would not be groped. He told me that their procedures are on their website, and therefore, I was fully informed before I entered the airport; I had implicitly agreed to whatever screening they deemed appropriate. I told him that San Diego was not listed on the TSA's website as an airport using Advanced Imaging Technology, and I believed that I would only be subject to the metal detector. He replied that he was not a webmaster, and I asked then why he was referring me to the TSA's website if he didn't know anything about it. I again refused to re-enter the screening area.

The man asked me to stay put while he walked off to confer with the officer and Mr. Silva. They went about 20 feet away and began talking amongst themselves while I waited. I couldn't over hear anything, but I got the impression that the police officer was recounting his version of the events that had transpired in the screening area (my initial refusal to be patted down). After a few minutes, I asked loudly across the distance if I was free to leave.

The man dismissively held up a finger and said, "hold on". I waited. After another minute or so, he returned and asked for my name. I asked why he needed it, and reminded him that the female supervisor/agent had already taken a report. He said that he was trying to be friendly and help me out. I asked to what end. He reminded me that I could be sued civilly and face a $10,000 fine and that my cooperation could help mitigate the penalties I was facing. I replied that he already had my information in the report that was taken and I asked if I was free to leave. I reminded him that he was now illegally detaining me and that I would not be subject to screening as a condition of leaving the airport. He told me that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7txGwoITSj4

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[chrisfromchi]

yeah this guys going need some attention.

[charrington]

They probably will try and actually make such things law.

[chrisfromchi]

This story has a new boil down by a san diego publication and its linked on drudge atm.


TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

By Robert J. Hawkins

Originally published November 14, 2010 at 12:07 a.m., updated November 14, 2010 at 12:43 a.m.

SAN DIEGO — John Tyner won't be pheasant hunting in South Dakota with his father-in-law any time soon.

Tyner was simultaneously thrown out of San Diego International Airport on Saturday morning for refusing to submit to a security check and threatened with a civil suit and $10,000 fine if he left.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/nov/14/tsa-ejects-oceanside-man-airport-refusing-security/

[ekimdrachir]

Wow that's very bad, I am sorry that happened. I will share this story. We can't submit to this kind of sexual assault! Flying is NOT worth this dehumanization.

[charrington]

Wow that's very bad, I am sorry that happened. I will share this story. We can't submit to this kind of sexual assault! Flying is NOT worth this dehumanization.

No you are exactly right.. I wonder if car rentals are going up  I'm sure they will be.


Tyner responded "OK, I don't understand how a sexual assault can be made a condition of my flying."

"This is not considered a sexual assault," replied the supervisor, calmly.

"It would be if you were not the government," said Tyner.

"By buying your ticket you gave up a lot of rights," countered the TSA supervisor.

"I think the government took them away after 9/11," said Tyner.

"OK," came the reply.

He's on the money here...

[agentbluescreen]

This is nonsense no court would grant any petitioner such unproven damages. Domestic travel unlike international travel implies no grey area of unwarranted search. Inalienable human rights cannot be contracted away under the guise of purchasing a ticket for transportation services.

[agentbluescreen]

The TSA rape of passengers issue can only be resolved by the "equality before the law" provisions of the constitution.

If any "once-screened" passenger is ever to be "screened again" then so must every airport, airline, food service, policing, maintenance, crews, baggage, security, retail and janitorial and TSA employee, upon EVERY occasion whenever they enter into a restricted screened area or the servicing vicinities of anything to be in contact with any aircraft.

Failing to do so is inequality before the intent (of the "supposed") "law", itself.

After all who is to say that that TSA screener won't join Al CIAduh over the internet on his/her lunch-break?

Under the current regime it is illegal and unjustifiable (*at minimum) to re-screen a passenger using  his/her own return ticket.

If the "law" invokes any form of arbitrarily discriminatory inequality before it, then it is an invalid law in both purpose and intent.

[xfahctor]

Fox News carrying this in about one minute

[xfahctor]

Fox News carrying this in about one minute

Or in the next half hour? 

[charrington]

Or in the next half hour? 

How did they do?

[xfahctor]

How did they do?

as expected...they only showed a tiny section of the video (where you threatened to have the TSA officer arrested) and then a long shpeil with a former TSA exec talking about how necessary it all is. They didn't mention your being told you needed clearance to leave the airport or anything...
it was a hatchet job to say the least.

[charrington]

Last week, one of my flying partners (Captain with Skywest) was going through security at DEN with his 18 year daughter. As his daughter approached the detector, the TSO working the NoS said on his headset, "heads up, got a cutie for you." He then confronted the TSA clerk with what he said and that neither of us are going through the NoS. The TSA clerk said you must have misunderstood me.

He said pat-down was pretty evasive, and his daughter felt uncomfortable.

He is taking it up with Skywest, with this behavior. Normally, crews there go through a different screening area, but since he was with his daughter, he got to see the TSA clerks at their finest in Denver.

Its stoiries like this, is why I will not go through the NoS (radiation/health issues) and even refuse the the pat-down thus (if it happens while on duty) canceling the flight due to a hostile work environment.

I hope this gets resolves soon!! Got to fly....no NoS checkpoints on this trip so don't worry about a canceled flight from me!!

Read more - forum.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/travel-safety-security/1147497-tso-saying-heads-up-got-cutie-you.html

[Lannister]

In protest all flight staff should start going through regular screening, and refusing the scanners as well as the pat downs.  flights would be canceled nation wide. 

[chrisfromchi]

I just head glenn beck talk about this story.

He made it seem like this is some left conspraicy theory to get the right to attack these scanners and then when a bomb comes obama will blame the right.

alex.

rip this f**k a new one please.

[Geolibertarian]

It cannot be stressed enough how self-defeating and futile it is to protest the Nazification of our society while simultaneously doing the "Sieg Heil" to the very premise on which this Nazification is based:



"America’s fate was sealed when the public and the anti-war movement bought the government’s 9/11 conspiracy theory. The government’s account of 9/11 is contradicted by much evidence. Nevertheless, this defining event of our time, which has launched the US on interminable wars of aggression and a domestic police state, is a taboo topic for investigation in the media. It is pointless to complain of war and a police state when one accepts the premise upon which they are based."

-- Paul Craig Roberts, http://www.infowars.com/good-bye-truth-has-fallen-and-taken-liberty-with-it-2/

[charrington]

CENTER — Charges have been filed in Saguache County against Center Police Chief LeRoy Torres and Officer Carlos Dean Heredia.

The initial incident allegedly involved Heredia repeatedly using a Taser on Jaime Aguilar during an alleged domestic violence call.

The incident resulted in Torrez and Heredia being placed on administrative leave while the incident was investigated.

Saguache County Sheriff Mike Norris was placed in charge of the investigation. Norris also promised the Center Town Board he would provide extra coverage of the Center area as long as it was needed.

Mark Werts, Investigator for the SCSO, said the Sheriff’s Office had a longstanding agreement to help Center when needed and knew the region well.

“We have always done regular patrols in the Center area,” Werts said. “We’ve always had an agreement that if Center needed extra back up, we would help.”

Help for the city also came from the Alamosa Police Department, who supplied an experienced officer, Lieutenant Duane Oakes, to stand in as acting police chief.

On Oct. 20, 2010, criminal charges were filed against Heredia. The first filing involved one count of retaliation against a witness, a class three felony; assault in the first degree against Jaime Aguilar, a class one misdemeanor; and first degree official misconduct, a class two misdemeanor.

Nov. 4, 2010, a second set of criminal charges were filed against Heredia. He was charged with one count of intimidating a witness, a class four felony.

According to court papers, between Jan. 1, 2010, and March 31, 2010, Heredia used a “threat, act of harassment, or act of harm or injury to a person or property directed to or committed upon a witness or victim of a crime” that was a potential witness in court.

Heredia was also charged with harassment, a third class misdemeanor, and reckless endangerment, also a third class misdemeanor...
http://www.alamosanews.com/v2_news_articles.php?heading=0&page=72&story_id=18651

[charrington]

I just head glenn beck talk about this story.

He made it seem like this is some left conspraicy theory to get the right to attack these scanners and then when a bomb comes obama will blame the right.

alex.

rip this f**k a new one please.

See that's why I think the whole beck thing is a setup. They will take it long and then say see it's all untrue and just make everyone in the movement look far worse. Beck isn't doing any one any good with mixed messages.

[charrington]

MYFOXNY.COM - It was Jazmine Fortenberry's 21st birthday, and her adoring family wanted it to be special. Instead, Jazmine said she ended up handcuffed, hospitalized, and humiliated by a cop with an anti-gay attitude.

Her family, including an uncle who is a Newark cop, gave the soft-spoken young chef a dinner party at an upscale restaurant in downtown Elizabeth, but what happened next has changed her life forever.

"I was scared, I didn't know what was going on... it happened so fast," she said.

Jazmine said she was outside the restaurant when suddenly a cop pushed her face first into the car window.

She had cuts and bruises all over her face, could hardly see and was dizzy and bleeding. She said that later at the hospital, after she'd been arrested and was in custody, the same officer returned.

An Elizabeth police spokesman told Fox 5 that cops went to the parking lot to settle a fight, and...
http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/local_news/new_jersey/woman-says-nj-cop-smashed-her-into-car-window-20101110

[charrington]

So it looks like Billy O. will talk about the TSA tonight and how Muslims should have to disrobe like the rest of us?

[charrington]

 TUCSON (CN) - More than 50 heavily armed federal agents burst into a home of sleeping women and children, hurling "ear-piercing insults;" they descended from helicopters, taunted the undressed women with sexual remarks, sexually accosted one, "utterly destroyed" the home and stole items from it before leaving hours later - without making an arrest, the four women and their nine children and grandchildren claim in Federal Court. One woman "was taken to a car, where a border patrolman sexually accosted her," the complaint states.

     The U.S. Border Patrol, Immigration and Customs Enforcement and DEA agents "came in cars and in helicopters; some of them broke through the front door, some through the back door, and some climbed down into the Guerrero's yard from at least one helicopter," during the early morning raid in Douglas, Ariz., in November 2009, according to the complaint.

     The families' attorney, Jesus Romo Vejar, says the feds suspected that some of the women were involved in smuggling workers into the country. Plaintiffs Reyna Guerrero, 24, and Carlos La Madrid Guerrero, 18, have a smuggling case pending in Federal Court, related to a previous arrest, Romo said.
     "The agents did not find any workers; it's not clear why they dug holes in the back yard. The house inside was severely damaged," Romo said.

     The 15-page complaint tells a dramatic story in which the sleeping Guerrero sisters, their 60-year-old mother, six minor children and others were "screamed [at], assaulted and manhandled" to such an extent that each suffers from post-traumatic stress.

     "After breaking into the house, the agents first encountered Ms. Ines Lugo, a 60-year-old widow who is overweight and suffers from a number of infirmities including heart, asthma, rheumatic arthritis and depression," the complaint states.

     "In the last two years her husband died and her only son disappeared. She was on her way out of the bathroom when she heard the commotion and found several heavily armed men facing her. In shock, she tried to talk, but the agents put a gun to her head and immediately threw her on the ground, at the same time several rifles with laser guns were aimed at her head and she was flooded with ear-piercing insults, such as 'shut up, you f**king fat bitch,' 'don't move you f**king idiot;' when Ms. Lugo complained about pain and wondered about her daughters and grandchildren, she was screamed that her daughters 'were f**ked,' and 'will be f**king taken in.'"

     Romo said the FBI had installed a recording device in the house, with the family's permission, as part of the investigation of the disappearance of Lugo's son. The agents took the device and have not returned it.
     "The agents, almost simultaneously, broke into Ms. Carmina Guerrero's
     (34 years old) bedroom situated adjacent to her two children's bedroom," the complaint states. (Parentheses in original.) "Three agents carrying high-caliber rifles ripped Carmina's blankets and blasted a heap of obscenities at her. Carmina woke up in shock; she was sleeping naked. The agents screamed, 'There is woman naked here,' [sic] and stood watching her instead of providing her with clothing."

     Plaintiff Guadalupe Tanabe, 21, "woke up when she heard the agents screaming, she went to open the door to the her room and encountered several officers pointing their rifles at her face and screaming, 'Get on the ground you son of a bitch;' she fell backwards on the bed, and was grabbed by the neck by an officer who yelled, 'Get on the ground, you bitch,'" according to the complaint.
     As the agents herded the family outside, "Susana was taken to a car, where a border patrolman sexually accosted her," the complaint states.

     The complaint continues: "[Guadalupe] was taken to a van where later, Carlos and [a minor child] were also placed; she and Carlos remained there for the next three or four hours. [The child] was allowed to leave after about twenty minutes. He left barefooted. Guadalupe and Carlos were allowed to leave with the rest, but they were told that they could not enter the house. Susana was placed outside with bare clothing. Although she continuously asked for clothes and shoes, she was denied them. She was then placed in a separate car, while in the car a border patrolman made sexual remarks and innuendo. She was kept there for approximately four hours, when she was told that she could leave. She left almost naked and barefooted and walked ten blocks with her sisters to their grandparents home."

     Later in the day members of the family returned to find the home ransacked and damaged.
     "The house had been utterly destroyed," the complaint states. "The photos of [Ines Lugo's] dead husband and her missing son had been ripped and their frames destroyed and thrown on the ground. The front and back doors were broken and most of the bedroom doors were displaced. The beds were broken, the children's toys were destroyed; all of their belongings, utensils and...
http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/11/15/31832.htm

[Dok]

that cops went to the parking lot to settle a fight,

what the heck? 

[Damascus]

and decided to start one..... bow down before the one you serve.... pig demon gods...... Good guys wear black...... and beat people up....

[Damascus]

They just got bored with beating the crape out of people at check points and decided to change things up.

[agentbluescreen]

They just got bored with beating the crape out of people at check points and decided to change things up.

Disgusting and outrageous criminally bestial Gestapo brutality

[Kilika]

Interesting that the FBI removes their little recording device investigation tool just before a pseudo drug raid. Can't have overlapping agencies.   The FBI is investigating human smuggling, and next thing you know, the people get raided by immigration and the DEA, which suggests a drug task force of some kind. These police state tactics are out of control.

[xfahctor]

Hats off to you man, you have ignited a media and congressional  firestorm with this incident.
 
Excellent job!

[chrisfromchi]

See that's why I think the whole beck thing is a setup. They will take it long and then say see it's all untrue and just make everyone in the movement look far worse. Beck isn't doing any one any good with mixed messages.

well today i caught a little of it and now he is saying homeland has been lying about storing images.

it was a passing listen so i don't know everything said.

but it will be on the actuall beck show tonight...tsa stuff so we'll see if the fake tea party wants to tangle with this or not.

[phasma]

We have the option (for now) of going by train - not as fast i know but the additional time might be worth it.

"Don't touch my junk" has got to go down as a classic