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« on: June 26, 2010, 06:27:04 AM »

Police raid Belgian Catholic hierarchy in child sex probe
http://www.malaysiakini.com/world/135513
Jun 25, 10 3:49am
Police raided Belgium's Catholic Church HQ on Thursday and seized computer files at the home of its top cardinal over the last 20 years amid fresh accusations of child sex abuse by priests.



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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2010, 06:39:41 AM »

Police raid Belgian Catholic hierarchy in child sex probe
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Police_raid_Belgian_Catholic_hierar_06242010.html
Published: Thursday June 24, 2010


Police raided Belgium's Catholic Church HQ on Thursday and seized computer files at the home of its top cardinal over the last 20 years amid fresh accusations of child sex abuse by priests.

The latest blow to the scandal-hit Roman Catholic Church came as the Vatican's ambassador to Belgium met with bishops, weeks after Pope Benedict XVI begged forgiveness from victims of paedophile priests.

A spokesman for Brussels prosecutors said that the action, involving dozens of officers and investigators, followed a string of accusations "denouncing abuse of minors committed by a certain number of Church figures."

Armed police with dogs sealed off the palace of the archbishop of Mechelen, just north of Brussels, "in order to establish if these accusations are backed up or not," said Jean-Marc Meilleur.

A spokesman for Godfried Danneels, the man who led Belgium's Catholic Church for two decades until the turn of the year, said police confiscated a computer from the archbishop's home before he was escorted to the archdiocese.

Hundreds of submissions to a special commission set up with the backing of the church in eastern Louvain to examine complaints received of past child abuse were also taken by officers in a related swoop.

Belgian media said these were supposed to have been passed over "discreetly" to justice officials, but child psychiatrist Peter Adriaenssens, who heads up the commission, railed against the move at a press conference.

He told TV cameras indignantly: "What am I supposed to say to someone who gave me information expecting discretion?"

However, police, who did not formally interview any officials, returned to the archdiocese with two more trucks early evening to cart off further material for forensics to comb through seeking hard evidence.

The Roman Catholic Church in Belgium has endured some of the worst of the worldwide paedophilia scandal to beset the Vatican, having been rocked in April when its longest-serving bishop, 73-year-old Roger Vangheluwe, resigned from his Bruges post after admitting sexually abusing a boy for years.

According to retired priest Dirk Deville, hundreds of cases of sexual abuse had been signalled to Danneels going back to the 1990s, but Danneels himself recently denied being involved in any cover-up.

"I cannot recall such a conversation and it would astonish me if I had paid no attention to such a message or had forgotten it," the former Belgian primate insisted.

A victim of a paedophile priest in French-speaking Wallonia has also accused Danneels' successor as the leader of Belgium's Catholics, Andre-Joseph Leonard, of covering up an abuser and keeping him for five years at his post.

"We did as much as we could at the time, removing the priest involved from all of the pastoral functions that would have put him in contact with children," Leonard's spokesman Eric De Beukelaer recently maintained.

In a bid to restore confidence within an increasingly sceptical flock, Belgium's bishops came together in May to publicly beg forgiveness from victims both for the actions of paedophile priests and for the Church's "silence" down the years.

Paedophile priest scandals and allegations of high-level cover-ups have surged again since last year across Europe, the United States and Brazil.

Earlier this month, Pope Benedict, who has met with abuse victims in Australia, the United States and Malta, issued his clearest apology yet amid the debilitating flood of complaints.

"We... insistently beg forgiveness from God and from the persons involved, while promising to do everything possible to ensure that such abuse will never occur again," he said.

The pope himself has faced allegations that, as archbishop of Munich and later as the Vatican's chief morals enforcer, he helped to protect predator priests.
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2010, 07:26:01 AM »

I knew guys in Massachusetts who had been sexually assaulted by priests. Cardinal law protected these rapists, and though exposed he was then sent to the Vatican and under protection..
The victims of these assaults have had a lifetime of suffering.

On a personell note, and No offense to anyones faith. I put this act on a par with murder. Why is it these men who disquise themselves as spokesmen for God impervious to the law, why are they not being jailed for their crimes. Hypocrits hiding beneath their robes and trappings of the church.

I could rant on this for hours suffice to say these men in the position of power, be it priests or others in authority can use their position to fullfill their perversions. The crimes committed under the banner of the Holy roman catholic church are historical.

 

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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2010, 07:27:04 AM »

Why the hell doesn't Google put story dates on their "hosted news"? I suspect I know why: future revisionism if and when needed... anyway.

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Vatican No. 2 increases criticism of Belgian raids
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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gI5tWYlvPP5P0wkYeyn3thMVdP6wD9GIUV200

VATICAN CITY — The Vatican's No. 2 official says raids carried out by Belgian police investigating sex abuse allegations are unprecedented even under communism.

Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, Vatican secretary of state, said Saturday that the raids were "an unheard-of and grave fact," according to the ANSA and Apcom news agencies. He lamented that officials had been held for several hours without food or drink.

He reportedly said that "there are no precedents, not even in Communist regimes."

This week, police raided the home and former office of the recently retired archbishop of Belgium. Investigators also opened the graves of two archbishops.

On Friday, a Vatican statement expressed astonishment and outrage.

Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2010, 07:29:33 AM »

Child sex abuse raid on Belgian Catholic Church
Belgian police have raided the headquarters of the Roman Catholic Church and the home of the recently retired Cardinal of Belgium as part of an investigation into the sexual abuse of children by clergy.

Published: 10:19PM BST 24 Jun 2010
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/vaticancityandholysee/7852125/Child-sex-abuse-raid-on-Belgian-Catholic-Church.html

On Thursday morning, 30 police officers swooped on the palace of the archbishop of Mechelen-Brussels, sealing off buildings and removing documents.

The latest blow to the scandal-hit Roman Catholic Church disrupted a meeting of bishops taking place in the presence of the Vatican's ambassador to Belgium, in Mechelen, just north of Brussels.

A second raid took place at the nearby home of Cardinal Godfried Danneels, 77, where police officers seized a personal computer belonging to the former head of Belgium's Catholic Church.

A third raid took place in the city of Leuven, where police officers searched the office of the Adriaenssens committee, an independent body set up by the Church to collect and investigate abuse allegations. Over 450 files detailing abuse allegations were confiscated.

Jean-Marc Meilleur, a spokesman for the Brussels crown prosecutor's office, said that the raids were "related to the sexual abuse of children within the Church".

"In a recent dossier the prosecutor was informed of charges denouncing the abuse of minors by a certain number of Church people," he said.

Hans Geybels, a spokesman for Cardinal Danneels, said that police did not interrogate him during the raid.

"They did take away his computer," he said. "The cardinal believes justice must run its normal course. He has nothing against that."

The investigation is thought to centre on April's resignation of Roger Vangheluwe, Bishop of Bruges. Bishop Vangheluwe stood down after admitting to having sexually abused a young boy during the time when Cardinal Danneels was the head of the Belgian Church.

Belgium's Church has been hit hard by the sex abuse scandal that has engulfed the wider European Roman Catholic clergy with reports that bishops covered up abuse of in seminars, schools and other church-run institutions.
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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2010, 07:31:12 AM »

I wish I wish, I wish that the catholic 'church' would be abolished. It is so obvious a criminal front. It's single handedly one of the biggest frauds ever perpetuated on man, and continues to be a spear in the side of humanity. Unlike a recent newbie around here that suggested he wanted all religion abolished, I am limiting my displeasure strictly to the catholic church.
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2010, 07:32:29 AM »

Belgian Raids on Tombs, Church Stir Vatican Outrage
Dana Kennedy, Contributor
http://www.aolnews.com/article/belgian-raids-on-tombs-church-stir-vatican-outrage/19531944

AOL News (June 25) -- After two months of increasingly conciliatory gestures by the Vatican in response to the global Catholic sex abuse scandal, top clerics in Rome reacted angrily today to surprise police raids on the Catholic Church in Belgium.

The Vatican said in a statement it was "outraged" by Thursday's raids, which included opening two archbishops' tombs but did not result in any arrests or charges. Investigators were reportedly acting on information that files about sex abuse had been hidden away in the tombs. The Vatican called the opening of the tombs "a violation."

Belgian police also interrupted a meeting of clerics Thursday at the church's headquarters, the palace of the Mechelen-Brussels Archdiocese, confiscating their cell phones and preventing them from leaving while the police conducted a nine-hour search looking for incriminating material relating to clerical sexual abuse of minors.



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Workmen walk past police stationed outside the offices of the Archdiocese of Mechelen-Brussels in Belgium on Thursday. Belgian authorities raided the premises as part of their investigation into sex abuse claims.
That same day, investigators raided the home of the retired Archbishop Godfried Danneels and took his computer. The BBC reported that Danneels' aide said that police asked Danneels to accompany them to church headquarters, where investigators tapped on boards and looked for hidden spaces.

Church officials told the Telegraph that police had opened up the graves of Leo Jozef Suenens, Belgian prelate between 1961 and 1979, and Jozef-Ernest van Roey, who preceded him as head of the Catholic Church in Belgium from 1926 until his death in 1961. The tombs were drilled open and cameras inserted to see if there were any hidden documents.

Archbishop Andre-Joseph Leonard, Belgium's current archbishop, condemned the raids, calling it the purview of "crime novels" and "The Da Vinci Code."

But a spokesman for the investigators, Jean-Marc Meilleur, told the BBC that Brussels prosecutors were investigating a case brought to them recently about the alleged sexual abuse of minors by a number of people within the church.

Hundreds of new accounts of priestly sex abuse have been reported in Belgium since Bishop Roger Vangheluwe's abrupt resignation in April after admitting to homosexual relations with a boy.

The offices of a commission set up independently to look into claims of clerical sexual abuse were also raided and the confidential files of many men in their 60s and 70s who had reported abuse were seized.

The Vatican's statement today pointed out that the victims' confidentiality and anonymity may have been compromised as a result of the seizure.

The leader of the commission, Peter Adriaenssens, said Thursday he was "appalled" by the raid and said many people had made their reports in confidence and were now worried about who might see their statements.

The Belgium raids were the latest in an ongoing scandal involving sex abuse in the Catholic Church that has swept Europe since February.
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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2010, 07:33:54 AM »

Why the hell doesn't Google put story dates on their "hosted news"? I suspect I know why: future revisionism if and when needed... anyway.

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Vatican No. 2 increases criticism of Belgian raids
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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gI5tWYlvPP5P0wkYeyn3thMVdP6wD9GIUV200

VATICAN CITY — The Vatican's No. 2 official says raids carried out by Belgian police investigating sex abuse allegations are unprecedented even under communism.

Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, Vatican secretary of state, said Saturday that the raids were "an unheard-of and grave fact," according to the ANSA and Apcom news agencies. He lamented that officials had been held for several hours without food or drink.

He reportedly said that "there are no precedents, not even in Communist regimes."

This week, police raided the home and former office of the recently retired archbishop of Belgium. Investigators also opened the graves of two archbishops.

On Friday, a Vatican statement expressed astonishment and outrage.

Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

a Vatican statement expressed astonishment and outrage., Can you beleive this, these arrogant bags of sHiiite, its as though they are saying, who are you to questions Gods spokesmen. SICKNING isn't it.
  Freaks in robes raping children, hiding under the cross of Christ and they have the audacity to  to be enraged, they are lucky the kids parents didn't strangle the rapists.
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2010, 07:34:08 AM »

Vatican protest at sex abuse raids in Belgium
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2010/0626/1224273365984.html

VATICAN CITY – The Vatican has protested to Belgium over raids carried out on church offices and a cardinal’s home by investigators who also looked into a tomb to find evidence of sexual abuse of minors by Catholic priests.

The Vatican expressed “shock” yesterday over the raids and “indignation” at what it said was the violation of two cardinals’ tombs. It said Belgium’s ambassador to the Vatican had been sent a formal protest.

Belgian investigators on Thursday raided two church offices and the home of a former archbishop, removing computers and files.

Police sealed off the Brussels archdiocesan offices in Mechelen during a meeting of the country’s bishops and barred them from leaving or telephoning outside for nine hours as they searched, said a church spokesman. – (Reuters)
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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2010, 07:48:18 AM »

notice there are 10x as many stories about Vatican outrage than they are about the evidence supporting the raids in the first place?
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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2010, 07:49:40 AM »

What  I  find incredible
is  that  this is   hyenas  investigating  wolves.

With  my  apologies  to   referencing to the  wild life
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« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2010, 07:50:57 AM »

notice there are 10x as many stories about Vatican outrage than they are about the evidence supporting the raids in the first place?

Yep, that's what initially piqued my interest -- I wasn't aware of the raid that they were complaining about so I wanted to find out what they were so upset about.
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« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2010, 08:00:10 AM »

What  I  find incredible
is  that  this is   hyenas  investigating  wolves.

With  my  apologies  to   referencing to the  wild life

yeah who are the ones doing the raids?

the pedophile issue in Belgium involves more of the elites in gove than the church from my understanding. this is turning into some Queen Margot type insanity where the commoners get screwed while the elites blame each other. At least there is infighting up there.
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« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2010, 08:05:34 AM »

Belgium too has a nasty history of institutionally-protected sex crimes.
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« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2010, 08:06:32 AM »

I wish I wish, I wish that the catholic 'church' would be abolished. It is so obvious a criminal front. It's single handedly one of the biggest frauds ever perpetuated on man, and continues to be a spear in the side of humanity. Unlike a recent newbie around here that suggested he wanted all religion abolished, I am limiting my displeasure strictly to the catholic church.
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« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2010, 12:35:46 PM »

Belgium too has a nasty history of institutionally-protected sex crimes.

Marc Dutroux - The Monster of Belgium
(Kind of a whitewash but still pretty good - for a mainstream documentary. They at least admit that investigations were blocked.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYRHfGdk2r4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HePt7B42-r8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3QrnO1i_D8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_byNm9i3Hv8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFHlGPPPeag

One of the sickest stories I've ever heard. I did some research into it while making my "Think of the Children" video.

Think Of The Children - Part 1 - The World Is Run By Paedophiles!  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mULDf1Zp4GI&fmt=35
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« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2010, 01:16:42 PM »

Marc Dutroux - The Monster of Belgium
(Kind of a whitewash but still pretty good - for a mainstream documentary. They at least admit that investigations were blocked.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYRHfGdk2r4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HePt7B42-r8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3QrnO1i_D8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_byNm9i3Hv8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFHlGPPPeag

One of the sickest stories I've ever heard. I did some research into it while making my "Think of the Children" video.

Think Of The Children - Part 1 - The World Is Run By Paedophiles!  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mULDf1Zp4GI&fmt=35

Wow, I've only read about Dutroux but have never seen video -- thanks Scootle.
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August 29, 2010 by Infowars Ireland


Seized documents can’t be used in investigation


Police officers stand outside the residence of the archbishop of Mechelen-Brussels in Mechelen, Belgium, June 24, which was searched by Belgian investigators as part of their investigation into alleged priestly sexual abuse.



The judicial authorities will not be allowed to use the case files taken during a search of the Church Commission on Abuse by Clergymen. On the 24 June detectives searched a number of premises owned by the Catholic Church including the Commission’s offices in Leuven (Flemish Brabant).

However, “serious procedural errors” were made by detectives that took part in what was called Operation Kelk.”

Consequently, the evidence contained in the 475 case files taken from the Commission’s offices can’t be used in the criminal investigation into child sex abuse by Catholic clergymen.

The decision to declare the evidence inadmissible was taken by Brussels magistrates two weeks ago.

However, it had been kept secret until it was leaked to journalists from the commercial broadcaster VTM.

The material taken during other searches, including the one at the Archbishop’s Palace, will be able to be used in the investigation.


Files to be sealed


The former Head of the Church Commission Peter Adriaenssens told journalists that “This provides recognition that we followed the procedures correctly.

Mr Adriaenssens resigned in protest at the seizure of the documents.

It is not clear what will now happen to the case files.

The Church Commission on Abuse by Clergymen no longer exists.

Mr Adriaenssens says that he has been led to believe that the case files will remain in sealed boxes until the Church decides what to do with them.

http://info-wars.org/2010/08/29/seized-documents-from-catholic-churchs-offices-in-belgium-declared-inadmissible-evidence/
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