Who is SolSkey and why does he wear the mark of the eye of the black sun?

[Amd304912]

Looks like a lot of you people are going to be cleaning the toilets in heaven.

you could reincarnate as a toilet

dont forget about carbon

[Livefreeordie]

Clearly, Christians get to escape punishment. Everyone else will be punished for not killing every child that backtalks them, though! It's only okay for Christians to let their children live, god is gonna GET the rest of the people who don't murder their backtalking children!

Absurd.

The law stands.

The point of "grace" is not that you can now do whatever you want. The point of grace is that the ones who become christians no longer go to hell. But the EARTHLY CURSES for not obeying the law have NOT been lifted.

How hilarious that you people claim that just because I don't believe in a vengeful God, I worship a god that has the only rule of "do as thou wilt," and yet here the dear, sweet, loving livefreeordie shows us how the christians can do as they wilt and there is no consequence!

This is, of course, in direct violation of what Jesus taught, which was that anyone who teaches someone that they do not need to follow the laws would be least in heaven.

Looks like a lot of you people are going to be cleaning the toilets in heaven.

I never said we shouldn't follow the commandments...I said WE CAN'T...stupid! If we could we wouldn't need a Saviour, would we?  Oh, that's right, you don't need a Saviour...you ARE your own savior...how convenient for you.   

I don't think you fully comprehend what Jesus taught...Christians are NOT under the LAW...but you are, so you go ahead and follow them and see where it gets you and while your at it...try reading the book of Romans too.

The law stands? If we could keep the law then WHY did God have to come to earth and die on a cross? No matter how hard we TRY, we CANNOT keep His laws {this is where your self righteousness gets the best of you  }...can you explain to me WHY Jesus Christ came to this earth? Was it to have a child with Marry Magdalene? 

Aw, are you trying to attack me now...how sad. Looks like you unbelieving heathens won't be cleaning anything in Heaven...so I wouldn't worry about us latrine cleaners...ROTFLOL!!!! 

[Pheonix Renewed]

Again, you can't even read what is there, and are making up stories as you go along. 

Rom 1:20     For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

   Rom 1:21    Because that, when they knew God, they glorified [him] not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

   Rom 1:22    Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

   Rom 1:23    And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

   Rom 1:24    Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

   Rom 1:25    Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Yes, I know, you're so much better than me, you're the chosen one who gets all the wisdom. We've been over your superiority complex before. It really doesn't have much to do with the issue at hand, though.

[Amd304912]

Yes, I know, you're so much better than me, you're the chosen one who gets all the wisdom. We've been over your superiority complex before. It really doesn't have much to do with the issue at hand, though.

 

[Boubear]

Yes, I know, you're so much better than me, you're the chosen one who gets all the wisdom. We've been over your superiority complex before. It really doesn't have much to do with the issue at hand, though.

It's not about superiority, it's about understanding the word.  Jesus was showing her grace and forgiveness, just like He gives all of us.  His last words was "Go and sin no more".  Which means don't do it again!!

[Puff1]

Show me in the NT where it says that you are no longer to kill anyone? Jesus himself saved the adulterous woman, but if you take this to mean that the law is now nul and void, then you cannot advocate for any punishment of any crime. If you use this to indicate the end of the rule of law because Jesus didn't allow her to be killed, then you are saying that Jesus did away with all punishment for crimes. You cannot say that he advocates any form of punishment, because he sent her on her way with absolutely no consequence for her adultery at all.

If, however, you pay attention to the story, it's pretty obvious that she was blackmailed or otherwise set up to be a deliberate goad into making Jesus make an unfair punishment to someone who was forced into something against the laws. It was a trap. Jesus either had to condemn a woman who was extorted into doing something wrong, or he had to break the law and say she should be set free because she was coerced (even though he wouldn't have been able to prove it). The setup looks pretty clear... they wanted him to make a decision, and they set it up so that either decision he made could be made to be wrong. One need only know the nature of manipulative people to understand this "parable." It was a trap where they thought they had created a "no right answer" situation.

But this has been left open to interpretation, wherein people can claim that the real point wasn't that Jesus was able to escape a trap, the real point, those like you claim, is that there is no more punishment for sins and unlawful acts.

Yet Jesus himself clarifies this point. The disciples ask what the end of days will be like. Jesus tells them, all about the signs and wonders, and Earthquakes, and the terrible deeds of the people... and then he states that NOT A LETTER OR A JOT will pass from the law until that is all fulfilled. So his death and resurrection, according to him, do NOT negate or nullify the laws, NOR does his managing to escape the trap the pharisees tried to lay for him.

You are correct about this Phoenix renewed.  This passage is deeper than most people see on the surface as you pointed out.  It was a trap - for Yeshua.  Remember too that when asked who accused her, the response was, "no man Lord" rendering carrying out any kind of punishment unlawful.  When He said, "let he who who is without sin cast the first stone," they knew at that point their motives had been exposed.  They were playing games.  They were exposed for the hypocrites that they were when He leaned down and starting writing on the ground, exposing their hearts.  I think it could have been their names he was sketching into the dirt, and I'm sure at that moment they realized He had the ability to see through them.  

If you want to discuss Yeshua, the law and how He fulfilled it (I did not say nullified it) we could do this, it's up to you.  I don't really know if you're really open to the truth or if you're sincere.  How is it that you can demonstrate understanding about this particular passage and perhaps others, yet reject Him, and be so deceived in your interpretation about the rest of the Word - I don't understand...

[Puff1]

It's not about superiority, it's about understanding the word.  Jesus was showing her grace and forgiveness, just like He gives all of us.  His last words was "Go and sin no more".  Which means don't do it again!!

And Boubear, He did demonstrate grace and forgiveness - it's just that there is more to this passage as far as the circumstances were concerned.   

[Boubear]

And Boubear, He did demonstrate grace and forgiveness - it's just that there is more to this passage as far as the circumstances were concerned.   

I understand that there was more, but the point was, discussing with Pheonix, is that He forgave her, and told her to go and sin no more.  It was a trap because they wanted to know how He would deal with it, but she was caught in adultery none the less.  Jesus says to her sin no more, meaning she did it, but don't do it again!

[Puff1]

I understand that there was more, but the point was, discussing with Pheonix, is that He forgave her, and told her to go and sin no more.  It was a trap because they wanted to know how He would deal with it, but she was caught in adultery none the less.  Jesus says to her sin no more, meaning she did it, but don't do it again!

Exactly, plus the conspirators were actually guilty of the greater sin, having hatred and murder in their own hearts. 

[lord edward coke]

If you want to discuss Yeshua, the law and how He fulfilled it (I did not say nullified it) we could do this, it's up to you.  I don't really know if you're really open to the truth or if you're sincere.  How is it that you can demonstrate understanding about this particular passage and perhaps others, yet reject Him, and be so deceived in your interpretation about the rest of the Word - I don't understand...

Good luck with That ......................She learns the word to attack believers.

 you cast your pearls b4 swine.

[Puff1]

Good luck with That ......................She learns the word to attack believers.

 you cast your pearls b4 swine.

Yes, the swine will without a doubt turn around and rend you.  And yes, I've seen some of her other posts, a few of them this morning on other threads.  There is no sincerity there.  Seems her primary mission on the forum (all over the forum) is to stir up hatred for Christians.  We know how that will ultimately turn out for her in the end though, when she faces judgement.   

[Pheonix Renewed]

Good luck with That ......................She learns the word to attack believers.

 you cast your pearls b4 swine.

I learned "the word" first, while I was a christian. Now I stand between christians and them trying to spiritually rape people. I don't really give a damn if you like that or not. You're already lost in the seduction of worshipping the evil in yourself as it is mirrored back to you by your book. You're not even capable of questioning what you've been conditioned to accept as fact. But there are people who are, and for them, I stand up to you and the rest who will stop at nothing to bring others into the seduction, through threats, coercion, manipulation, or any other method you can find that might make them tie themselves to the worship of their own darkness.

[Amd304912]

Yes, the swine will without a doubt turn around and rend you.  And yes, I've seen some of her other posts, a few of them this morning on other threads.  There is no sincerity there.  Seems her primary mission on the forum (all over the forum) is to stir up hatred for Christians.  We know how that will ultimately turn out for her in the end though, when she faces judgement.   

i see you see the GS. 

hope thats not too cryptic to understand. 

[Puff1]

I learned "the word" first, while I was a christian. Now I stand between christians and them trying to spiritually rape people. I don't really give a damn if you like that or not. You're already lost in the seduction of worshipping the evil in yourself as it is mirrored back to you by your book. You're not even capable of questioning what you've been conditioned to accept as fact. But there are people who are, and for them, I stand up to you and the rest who will stop at nothing to bring others into the seduction, through threats, coercion, manipulation, or any other method you can find that might make them tie themselves to the worship of their own darkness.

Actually I think it infuriates you when you know that others can see past your crap.

[Dok]

Actually I think it infuriates you when you know that others can see past your crap.

[Puff1]

i see you see the GS. 

hope thats not too cryptic to understand. 

Hi Amd304912 - yeah I can.  

[Amd304912]

Hi Amd304912 - yeah I can.  

epiphany!   

[Livefreeordie]

I learned "the word" first, while I was a christian.

You're just FULL of confusion...aren't you? Since when does anyone have the right to ever say they USED to be a Christian? It's God that does the saving, not you Princess. Obviously, you NEVER were to begin with, you're kidding yourself. 

"The word?"  What do you know about "the word?" 

You Didn't "Used to be a Christian

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Basics/used_to_be.htm

I received a letter today from a professed witch.  In her e-mail she claimed that she "used to be a Christian," and was upset with me for speaking out against Wicca as a form of Satanism.

FIRST, I would like to say that there is NO such thing as a person who "used to be a Christian."  Just as a person cannot reverse the physical birth, neither can the spiritual birth be reversed.  John 3:3-7 clearly teaches ... YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN!  Salvation is a second birth, a new birth.  Salvation is not a philosophy, or a way of life.  Salvation is not an experience, or a religion.  Salvation is the second birth.  Many people today have churchianity; but they don't have Christianity.  They have religion without truth.  America's churches are filled with people who claim to be Christians, but they've never been born anew in Christ Jesus.  1st Peter 1:23 states... "Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever."  The Word of God is the seed that brings forth new life in response to our faith in the Savior.  Salvation is a supernatural act of God in response to our faith.  Salvation is not a prayer, although someone may call upon the Lord in prayer for salvation.   Salvation is not a commitment, although a person may desire to commit their life to God at the time of salvation.  Salvation is a miracle of God, brought about by our faith in the shed blood of Jesus.  Someone asked me the question... "Isn't placing our faith in Jesus a work?"  Yes, but it is not an act of self-righteousness.  Jesus said in John 6:29, "This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent."

Thus, it is IMPOSSIBLE to reverse the second birth, just as it is equally impossible to reverse the physical birth.  Once a child of God, always a child of God!  Once saved, always saved!  This is a fundamental doctrine of the Bible.  To say that a person can lose their salvation is to call Jesus a liar, because in John 6:37 He promised, "...him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out."

The reason why many people today claim to be former Christians is simply because they were never BORN AGAIN to begin with.  To unsaved people, Christianity is nothing more than a philosophy.  So when they decide to change their philosophy, they are sincere when they say... "I used to be a Christian."  Now, they may have once been in a Christian church, and had learned Christian teachings; but they certainly never found Christ as their personal Savior.  Many people join a church, listen to the Gospel message, but they have NO faith in God.  This is exactly what happened to the Jews in the Wilderness in Moses' time... "For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it."  Many people hear the saving Gospel message of Christ crucified, but they have no faith in what they are hearing.  Our churches are packed full with such Christ-rejecters.  What a sad paradox!
 
SECOND, Wicca is Satanic.  All Wiccans worship the pagan god, Pan, from whom the modern image of a horned Devil originates.  In fact, Pan is extremely popular in Wicca and Satanism.  Who's kidding who?  We've seen Pan quite a bit lately in movies such as Narnia, Pan's Labyrinth, and on several of Ozzy Osbourne's OzzFest album covers.  Pan is the pagan god of sexual perversion and rape, and is often portrayed fondling and seducing women.  If you want to learn just how sick all this stuff is, please read NARNIA and Satanism.  Also, Pan's Labyrinth.
 
CONCLUSION

Either you are saved now, and always will be; or else you aren't saved now, and never were to begin with.  Once saved, always saved!  Whatever experiences you may have had in the past, or Christian teachings you held for a time, cannot qualify as having BEEN A CHRISTIAN.  Ye must be born again!  Christianity began as a relationship with Jesus Christ.  When it went to Greece it became a philosophy.  When it went to Rome it became an organization.  When it spread throughout Europe it became a culture.  And when it came to America it became a business.  Most of what is considered "Christian" today is nothing of the such.  Without a doubt, the term "Christian" is the most abused, misused, and misunderstood word today.  So the next time you hear someone claim... "I used to be a Christian," you know that they've never been born again to begin with, because the second birth is as irreversible as the physical birth. 

[lord edward coke]

I learned "the word" first, while I was a christian. Now I stand between christians and them trying to spiritually rape people. I don't really give a damn if you like that or not. You're already lost in the seduction of worshipping the evil in yourself as it is mirrored back to you by your book. You're not even capable of questioning what you've been conditioned to accept as fact. But there are people who are, and for them, I stand up to you and the rest who will stop at nothing to bring others into the seduction, through threats, coercion, manipulation, or any other method you can find that might make them tie themselves to the worship of their own darkness.

Spiritually rape      What is that?     Please explain How To spiritually rape someone.

Are people not able to make up there own minds? 

Are they so weak minded that they will fall for the seduction, through threats, coercion, manipulation On a forum?

Are grown up humans so infantile that they cannot think for themselves and they  need you to ''stand up'' and slap the bread of Truth from there watering mouth? 

You obviously have an overinflated opinion of your self -worth.

[White Rose Sophie]

Actually, the Bible says that it is NOT open to interpretation. "Lean not on your own understanding." Jesus is VERY clear that the law is NOT fulfilled until the end of days. That means that the law wherein THOSE WHO DO NOT OBEY the laws of the Torah (the first part of the OT) are still subject to the Earthly curses, which extend for up to 10 generations.

Show me in the NT where it says that you are no longer to kill anyone? Jesus himself saved the adulterous woman, but if you take this to mean that the law is now nul and void, then you cannot advocate for any punishment of any crime. If you use this to indicate the end of the rule of law because Jesus didn't allow her to be killed, then you are saying that Jesus did away with all punishment for crimes. You cannot say that he advocates any form of punishment, because he sent her on her way with absolutely no consequence for her adultery at all.

If, however, you pay attention to the story, it's pretty obvious that she was blackmailed or otherwise set up to be a deliberate goad into making Jesus make an unfair punishment to someone who was forced into something against the laws. It was a trap. Jesus either had to condemn a woman who was extorted into doing something wrong, or he had to break the law and say she should be set free because she was coerced (even though he wouldn't have been able to prove it). The setup looks pretty clear... they wanted him to make a decision, and they set it up so that either decision he made could be made to be wrong. One need only know the nature of manipulative people to understand this "parable." It was a trap where they thought they had created a "no right answer" situation.

But this has been left open to interpretation, wherein people can claim that the real point wasn't that Jesus was able to escape a trap, the real point, those like you claim, is that there is no more punishment for sins and unlawful acts.

Yet Jesus himself clarifies this point. The disciples ask what the end of days will be like. Jesus tells them, all about the signs and wonders, and Earthquakes, and the terrible deeds of the people... and then he states that NOT A LETTER OR A JOT will pass from the law until that is all fulfilled. So his death and resurrection, according to him, do NOT negate or nullify the laws, NOR does his managing to escape the trap the pharisees tried to lay for him.

As far as "chosen," it's pretty obvious... they, and you, know the truth, and anyone who doesn't agree with you, does not. You are chosen by god to be one of the special people who gets truth revealed to you, while truth and light and the love of god is closed off to anyone else. Before the whole business of Jesus, the Jews were supposedly the sole owners of the truth. The sole people in contact with God. They were even right, the OT claims, in slaughtering other people gratuitiously, because those people did not have the Truth. Of course, this ignores the fact that people have to be taught these things, it's not innate knowledge. They have to be indoctrinated into the "right" religion from birth, or have it told to them later. And it's natural and normal for people to believe what they've been taught. So by not being born into a place where they were taught the "right" religion from birth, all other people were at an automatic disadvantage. This make those born into the "right" religion the "chosen" people by default. Psychologically, anyone born to another belief system society will have difficulties changing over to the different religion. This is a disadvantage of birth. Like being born in ethiopia means you have one likelihood of starving to death, and if you are born in the USA, a whole different likelihood. If God were impartial, either God would love all people regardless of their situation of birth or their belief system, OR, God would ensure that all people have equal access to the "right" religion from the very beginning instead of being born into a disadvantaged situation where they are set up to be mentally indoctrinated into the 'wrong' ones.

Now, here we come back to the whole concept of evil as good, because YOUR god did it. You MUST make the atrocities attributed to your god into a good thing. You MUST turn evil into good. If not, then the whole premise of your religion is shown to be a lie. Yet the very act of manipulating your thoughts around to find a way to make genocide GOOD displays the lie in and of itself.

Evil acts, you argue, become GOOD by default if God does them.

Funny how conversations run into each other... I'm having the same discussion elsewhere. The fact of the matter is, this is something even the Bible says, that in those days, evil will be made good, and people will worship evil, calling it good.

List the characteristics of your version of God, and you will find many characteristics that you would consider to be evil if they were found in a human being... jealousy, avarice, selfishness, arrogance, murder, genocide, advocating slavery, angry, destructive, violent, demands human and animal sacrifices, capricious, arbitrary, cannibalistic (eat my flesh, drink my blood), vengeful... oh yeah, and loving, too... conditionally.

Where has evil been made good, and worshipped? Well, this is one place. These attributes, dispicable to us in humans, are delightful in your god, apparently.

As far as Jesus advocating these things... you didn't answer the question. Is Jesus the same God as the OT, or not? Is Jesus a separate God? Do you worship two different Gods? Do you not worship the Father?

Fundamentally, whatever Jesus may have preached while here, if he IS God, then all of those laws that came before, ARE HIS LAWS. And he clearly states the law WILL NOT pass away until ALL is fulfilled.

You work hard to separate Jesus from the OT. What this tells me is that you recognize the evil in the UNGODLY acts of the OT god. You seek to separate the two, but there is no biblical support for your separation of them.

Jesus is VERY clear that the law is NOT fulfilled until the end of days. That means that the law wherein THOSE WHO DO NOT OBEY the laws of the Torah (the first part of the OT) are still subject to the Earthly curses, which extend for up to 10 generations.

I think I shall cut and paste your reply and post my response in the "Bible Thumping" thread, which is where the majority of our exchange belongs.

Back on topic:

This thread was about SolSkye, and his Thesophical philosophy. I posted that Theosophy was the underlying religion of the Illuminati (which was developed centuries ago) and posted quotes from their own leadership as evidence. Solskye apparently then went AWOL..or at least changed his name.  This is an ANTI-NWO forum (for heaven's sake!) - what else would someone like that expect from people who frequent such a forum? You made the comment that I had attacked his persona, and not the belief system itself.  Can you point me to the posts where I did such? 

I have not found any yet. 

[TheLoneWolf]

I know I'm waaaaaaaay late in this topic, but I just wanted to add my two cents. I have been studying different religions and spiritual texts for a good while now, and I am coming to reconsider things I accepted as fact previously. One of these things is the understood "evil" in certain groups or traditions. I have been following Alex Jones for many years now, and I am clear on how he feels about Theosophy and Helena Blavatsky. I have been reading books by a mystic named Elizabeth Clare Prophet, and she mentions Theosophy among other things. Her books center around the origin of our souls and our purpose for life here on Earth. She credited Theosophy as something positive. Doesn't mean it is, but it just made me curious. I would say read things for yourself, so you can gain the best perspective you can. I've heard Alex and Texe Marrs say bad things about Kaballah and The Zohar. I probably would have never even taken a second thought to Kaballah if not for probably the single most remarkable website I have ever come across. Now that I am reading books about both, I would have to respectfully disagree with their assertions that Kaballah is evil or about devil worship. From what I have read the tradition of Kaballah contains ancient wisdom and the explanation of how reality came to being. Both Elizabeth Clare Prophets' books and the books I have read on Kaballah center on love for our Creator, love for others, and love for ourselves. I don't see how that is a bad thing.

P.S. I would also like to point out that Kaballah is a way of life, and that Elizabeth Clare Prophet doesn't subscribe to any particular religion.

[Boubear]

I know I'm waaaaaaaay late in this topic, but I just wanted to add my two cents. I have been studying different religions and spiritual texts for a good while now, and I am coming to reconsider things I accepted as fact previously. One of these things is the understood "evil" in certain groups or traditions. I have been following Alex Jones for many years now, and I am clear on how he feels about Theosophy and Helena Blavatsky. I have been reading books by a mystic named Elizabeth Clare Prophet, and she mentions Theosophy among other things. Her books center around the origin of our souls and our purpose for life here on Earth. She credited Theosophy as something positive. Doesn't mean it is, but it just made me curious. I would say read things for yourself, so you can gain the best perspective you can. I've heard Alex and Texe Marrs say bad things about Kaballah and The Zohar. I probably would have never even taken a second thought to Kaballah if not for probably the single most remarkable website I have ever come across. Now that I am reading books about both, I would have to respectfully disagree with their assertions that Kaballah is evil or about devil worship. From what I have read the tradition of Kaballah contains ancient wisdom and the explanation of how reality came to being. Both Elizabeth Clare Prophets' books and the books I have read on Kaballah center on love for our Creator, love for others, and love for ourselves. I don't see how that is a bad thing.

P.S. I would also like to point out that Kaballah is a way of life, and that Elizabeth Clare Prophet doesn't subscribe to any particular religion.

You should dig deeper into the Noahide laws, and see what they think of none Jews.  Of course if you are Jewish, than everything is ok for you!!

[TheLoneWolf]

You should dig deeper into the Noahide laws, and see what they think of none Jews.  Of course if you are Jewish, than everything is ok for you!!

I have heard Prof. Hoffman I believe(forget his first name) talk about the Noahide Laws. I am not too familiar with them. I will further look them up. I'm not sure jumping on a particular group of people or a particular religion or spiritual discipline and saying that everything and everyone involved with them/it are up to no good can be an accurate assessment. Even the Illuminati has taken symbols that were originally positive and changed their meaning to something negative. All I'm saying is knowledge is the key. If you come to an understanding something is evil or wrong, that's ok as long as you came to it by way of doing your own research as opposed to taking another person's word for it. I have seen several different interpretations as to who are really Jews by nationality. At this point, I'm just not sure you can lump Jewish people Zionism, Kaballah, the Talmud, the Zohar, the Protocols Of Zion, and the Noahide Laws together into one ball of wax.

[lord edward coke]

I have heard Prof. Hoffman I believe(forget his first name) talk about the Noahide Laws. I am not too familiar with them. I will further look them up. I'm not sure jumping on a particular group of people or a particular religion or spiritual discipline and saying that everything and everyone involved with them/it are up to no good can be an accurate assessment. Even the Illuminati has taken symbols that were originally positive and changed their meaning to something negative. All I'm saying is knowledge is the key. If you come to an understanding something is evil or wrong, that's ok as long as you came to it by way of doing your own research as opposed to taking another person's word for it. I have seen several different interpretations as to who are really Jews by nationality. At this point, I'm just not sure you can lump Jewish people Zionism, Kaballah, the Talmud, the Zohar, the Protocols Of Zion, and the Noahide Laws together into one ball of wax.

The Kaballah IMHO seems to be the eye of the pyramid and worthy of deep investigation. It has been around
forever as oral traditions and is addressed often in the bible............the 'mixed multitude' in moses encampment who
demanded a golden apis to worship............the ones Jesus called of their father the devil and the synagogue of Satan..............the Jews who say they are Jews and are not but do lie &c. Eustace mullins traces this in his great
offering 'The curse of canaan''       http://crashrecovery.org/canaan/#demonology

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOX4UGnOexE