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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2010, 03:32:40 PM » |
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Lucas Smith was going to be represented by Orly Taitz but backed out when she allegedly asked him to lie in court. Larry Sinclair has made the same statement, Taitz asking him to lie in court as well. I believe Taitz is an agent provocateur to discredit, crash, and trash the Birther movement with improper behavior on the part of an attorney. How old is this footage? This is the document being shown around the internet as Lucas Smith's one.  from-- http://www.theobamafile.com/_people/LucasSmith.htmBe careful, the Obama agents spreading dis-info stories to muddy the waters. I'm not saying Obama wasn't born in Kenya--Phil Berg believes he was and he is not alone, but this is a huge deal and Soetoro's agents are a foot.
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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2010, 04:08:13 PM » |
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So is this the smoking gun?
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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2010, 04:56:47 PM » |
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So is this the smoking gun?
I am searching now for the link to the website of the man who found this. It apparently is a fake. He claim he did it to prove a point. I was goning to post that Youtube link until I ran accross that website. It looks dam convincing though. Still seaching. . .
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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2010, 05:15:02 PM » |
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I am searching now for the link to the website of the man who found this. It apparently is a fake. He claim he did it to prove a point. I was goning to post that Youtube link until I ran accross that website. It looks dam convincing though. Still seaching. . .
Faking something to make a point is bad, especially when it can spread. Then the real truth will be less valued, or even considered another fake. "If you lie too many times, the real cry for help might be mistaken for another lie." He shouldn't have done it. It looks too damn convincing.
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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2010, 05:22:48 PM » |
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Just wanted to say, that I believe this guy is from the Obama camp, and is a journalists. When I did view the website I just scanned the article and recall him claiming that he just wanted to prove something to the birthers that anyone can fake a document to look authentic. I do not think the "birthers" did this sham.
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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2010, 05:24:00 PM » |
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Faking something to make a point is bad, especially when it can spread. Then the real truth will be less valued, or even considered another fake. "If you lie too many times, the real cry for help might be mistaken for another lie." He shouldn't have done it. It looks too damn convincing.
Agreed. It is probably a fake. Not worth researching. You can be sure the real one is under lock and key.
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« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2010, 06:13:06 PM » |
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obvious fake....too many digital errors for a 1961 piece of paper...in fact, whole "paper" is fake.....the fake "Fax" curves are all digitally created, fonts are too dark in area's.....doubt there was even a physical piece of paper involved on this one...
somebody correlate an actual kenyan BC from ANYBODY from the same time period and see if it even resembles this faux doc...... this made up crap doesn't help us @ all!!
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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2010, 06:42:53 PM » |
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obvious fake....too many digital errors for a 1961 piece of paper...in fact, whole "paper" is fake.....the fake "Fax" curves are all digitally created, fonts are too dark in area's.....doubt there was even a physical piece of paper involved on this one...
somebody correlate an actual kenyan BC from ANYBODY from the same time period and see if it even resembles this faux doc...... this made up crap doesn't help us @ all!!
I am also wondering about that baby foot print. I know each state is different, but I have family members born in the 60s and there is no foot print. I didn't think that came out until much later. Could be totally wrong since each state is different. Also, I do know that in many African countries if the child was born in the village, their birth certificates are usually enlongated aprox 6x18. This too is not universal. Bottom line, we all know that Obama was born in Kenya, but just as larsonstdoc states, it is probably under lock and key. We won't get the truth until long after Obama is probably dead and gone.
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« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2010, 06:46:46 PM » |
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I am also wondering about that baby foot print. I know each state is different, but I have family members born in the 60s and there is no foot print. I didn't think that came out until much later. Could be totally wrong since each state is different. Also, I do know that in many African countries if the child was born in the village, their birth certificates are usually enlongated aprox 6x18. This too is not universal. Bottom line, we all know that Obama was born in Kenya, but just as larsonstdoc states, it is probably under lock and key. We won't get the truth until long after Obama is probably dead and gone.
My 62' BC has a footprint 
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« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2010, 06:54:08 PM » |
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My 62' BC has a footprint  Okay. Then it was around during the 60's. Thanks! But, I am still wondering if it was available in Kenya?
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« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2010, 07:09:50 PM » |
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Another possible discrepancy I am noticing, is the name of the deputy registrar. He is Kenyan and his last name is Oduya. Africans typically placed their family name "Oduya" first, then the middle name and then the first. Westerner's place their last name last.
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« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2010, 07:45:43 PM » |
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The "birther" thing is going nowhere. Just another distraction. TPTB will do a fine job of keeping Obama in office, US citizen or not. For me this is really a none issue due to the fact that if 100% conclusive evidence was presented, NOTHING would happen. Nadda.
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« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2010, 07:53:37 PM » |
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The "birther" thing is going nowhere. Just another distraction. TPTB will do a fine job of keeping Obama in office, US citizen or not. For me this is really a none issue due to the fact that if 100% conclusive evidence was presented, NOTHING would happen. Nadda.
Actually the main issues that AJ exposes constantly (as well as Tarpley, and Berg) is that he is an Indonesian citizen which deprives him of being natural born and his real name is Barry Soetoro. No one will touch the Soetoro thing, they will not even ridicule it. Orly is Mossad most likely, I think her brother is involved with the swine flu scam. She is good to have people go "what" but then she is useless as far as anything truthful penetrating the matrix. The FBI has been given details to attack anyone questioning the legitimacy of the presidency (it is in declassified documents) because it may destabilize the political system. This is classic illuminati mind f**king. the tavistock agents are actively destabilizing the political system in this country. if the constitution was followed and logical inquiries were made by rational people then we could move forward with exposing the banksters thefts and lies to get us into wars. Hey illuminutheads...no one gives a shit about puppet soetoro, he is just another lapdog like bush. they both just do whatever Bilderberg orders as if they are in a shakespearean play. they never listen to a word of the people, and just follow orders for international elites who continue to rob us of all wealth, health, and self determination.
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All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately
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« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2010, 08:01:48 PM » |
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The birth certificate issue is another crack in the Obama portrait.
There will most likely not be as worshiped a politician since Obama in our lifetime.
The media and the oligarchs are going down with Obama.
All they have left is Palin, GB, and Patraeus types who can no longer control the Tea Parties.
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« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2010, 08:09:29 PM » |
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Faking something to make a point is bad, especially when it can spread. Then the real truth will be less valued, or even considered another fake. "If you lie too many times, the real cry for help might be mistaken for another lie." He shouldn't have done it. It looks too damn convincing.
I agree--but that is exactly what the Obama/CIA camp will be doing to discredit the credible reports--and there are many. Whether Lucas Smith's Birth Certificate he purchased in Kenya is real or a forgery--you'll need document experts to examine it and if, as he says, the hospital administrators signed it--was he a witness? Or was it the person who got the B.C. for him? Questions. Questions....
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« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2010, 08:21:05 PM » |
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The "birther" thing is going nowhere. Just another distraction. TPTB will do a fine job of keeping Obama in office, US citizen or not. For me this is really a none issue due to the fact that if 100% conclusive evidence was presented, NOTHING would happen. Nadda.
I disagree. Remember when the Birther issue first hit the Tube? The Zionazi Media Shills went ape-shite screaming at the viewers not to believe in the Birther theories. It IS the issue that will split this scam apart. The last thing the NWO wants is all the sheeple talking about this possibility: Obama is an alien/Kenyan/Indonesian/British Subject/all of the above---not Constitutionally qualified--WHAT--you mean it's against the law!? Peep, peep, goes the peeps--damn, WTF is going on?!!!! NWO ALARM BELLS RING Calling all Zionazi shills--GET TALKING---Confuse and scare the people--Do you F'ing Job!!! "Birthers are terrorists!" "Arrest them now!" "Birthers are un-American!" -----------Just get the general public: average John and Jane Doe talking/texting/blogging/emailing about this--that's all you have to do, the NWO will take care of the rest in their over-reaction. Everyone's gut will know: Thou dost protest too loudly.
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