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Cops experimenting on mentally ill in Houston
« on: June 18, 2010, 08:57:27 AM »
HPD Practices On Prisoners For Drawing Blood From Drunk Driving Suspects

http://www.click2houston.com/news/23938401/detail.html

HOUSTON -- Houston City Hall has nixed a plan to have HPD officers draw blood themselves from drunken drivers, and Local 2 Investigates found they practiced on state prison inmates in a psychiatric ward.
"This type of behavior on psychiatric inmates is very, very unethical," said Houston civil rights attorney Randall Kallinen.

Local 2 Investigates first uncovered last year that HPD officers would begin training to become certified phlebotomists. That would allow them to draw blood from suspected drunken drivers without having to rely on hospitals or nurses.

The first seven officers started training, first using artificial limbs and then sticking needles into each other's arms. From there, they started sticking needles into the arms of convicts at the Jester IV Prison, a psychiatric ward off Highway 99 near Richmond.

One officer involved in the training said the inmates were having blood drawn under a doctor's orders as part of "intake" into the prison system. The officer said, "They were not stuck just for us."

In a statement, University of Texas Medical Branch (UTMB), which administers the medical program in Texas prisons said:

"UTMB’s Correctional Managed Care program has an agreement with Lone Star College involving its Law Enforcement Phlebotomy Program. The participating Houston police officers at the units were there as part of the Lone Star College course they were taking. Having blood drawn is part of the standard intake process at TDCJ and offenders were given the option of having a police officer or a staff phlebotomist perform the procedure. All of the offenders involved chose to allow the police officers to do the procedure."

At HPD headquarters, Executive Assistant Chief Tim Oettmeier said it was a "validated, certified training program."

When asked about the ethics of HPD officers practicing needle prods on inmates, he said, "We looked at it as students involved with a protocol, as opposed to police officers involved in a protocol."

Kallinen said it raises many questions since the officers were not trained or certified medical professionals.

"Are they going to perform the right procedures? Are they going to cause an infection? Are they going to stab the wrong thing to practice medical procedures on inmates, and especially psychiatric inmates?" Kallinen said.

He said those inmates may not be able to understand or provide a meaningful consent to be used for training exercises.

"What you have there is sort of a group of people who can be very easily coerced into doing things that aren't good for them," said Kallinen. "They want to please their captors."

The program was hatched last year under the prior mayor and police chief.

Mayor Annise Parker has now scrapped the entire program, but not because inmates were used as test subjects.

In a statement, Mayor Parker said:

"Chief (Charles) McClelland and I have agreed to halt this program. While I applaud the out-of-the-box thinking that led to this idea, I believe it went too far. I cannot support taking our officers off the street either to draw blood or for deployment in this matter. Of course, drunk driving is a serious problem that we must work together to eradicate, but there are already mechanisms in place to determine whether a motorist is driving under the influence. Additionally, if we choose, there is the option of contracting with civilian professionals to draw the blood."

Oettmeier said the city lost $4,000 by scrapping the program. Those where the costs of giving hepatitis shots and other vaccinations required for the seven officers to begin phlebotomist training.

One officer said, "I just spent five days at TDC drawing blood for nothing."

That officer said blood was drawn from at least 50 inmates at Jester IV and another lockup in Dayton before the program was halted in mid April.

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Re: Cops experimenting on mentally ill in Houston
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2010, 10:15:15 PM »
the NWO is just going batshit crazy
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Re: Cops experimenting on mentally ill in Houston
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2010, 10:24:17 PM »
the NWO is just going batshit crazy
you got that right
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Re: Cops experimenting on mentally ill in Houston
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2010, 02:43:24 AM »
Wow ... this country looks more and more NAZI every day. These pigs are insane! I have no respect for police, they are simply not needed. The founders did not see them as necessary and neither do I if they had been seen as necessary they would have written them into the constitution. The founders knew however that with people like these (cops/pigs) the opportunity for abuse existed. These parasites are not there to protect anyone, they are simply there to gather info after the fact. After they gather facts they usually go nowhere as they claim to be too busy and overworked to look into every case. Cops are simply roving tax collectors, nothing more. We have the 2nd amendment for a reason but the scum politicians are eroding our basic right to self defense everyday, they are quietly working and scheming against us and our natural rights so they can enslave us and steal everything we work for.
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Re: Cops experimenting on mentally ill in Houston
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2010, 04:52:47 PM »
So... why aren't they also experimenting on NWO lackeys?
After all - you can't say that someone who devotes their ENTIRE live and existence over power and money is actually sane.

And yes - there's a name for it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder

Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is a personality disorder defined by the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, the diagnostic classification system used in the United States, as "a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and a lack of empathy."

The narcissist is described as being excessively preoccupied with issues of personal adequacy, power, and prestige. Narcissistic personality disorder is closely linked to self-centeredness.


It's "bingo" - nail on the head diagnosis for them.

So - like it or not NWO rats - you are as insane as those you would euthanize - actually, maybe more.
So do the world's gene pool a favor and don't forget to exclude those with this illness as well.

Otherwise - you simply aren't being true to your own 'science' of 'Eugenics'.
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Re: Cops experimenting on mentally ill in Houston
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2010, 05:07:11 PM »
I respect your POV xopatriot, but my father was a state trooper for 20 yrs.  He was a good man and a good cop. A Patriot.

It is easy to generalize but we should try to remember that alot of our cops feel the same way we do about what is happenning. Incidents like this certainly don't help though.  :-\

This article made me sick

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Re: Cops experimenting on mentally ill in Houston
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2010, 06:11:36 AM »
Going crazy Implys they were sane at one point in time.. O_O
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Re: Cops experimenting on mentally ill in Houston
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2010, 06:22:30 AM »
"While I applaud the out-of-the-box thinking that led to this idea, I believe it went too far"
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Re: Cops experimenting on mentally ill in Houston
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2010, 07:42:41 AM »
Making cops into Josef Mengele, one arm prick at a time.
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Re: Cops experimenting on mentally ill in Houston
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2010, 04:13:31 PM »
I respect your POV xopatriot, but my father was a state trooper for 20 yrs.  He was a good man and a good cop. A Patriot.

It is easy to generalize but we should try to remember that alot of our cops feel the same way we do about what is happenning. Incidents like this certainly don't help though.  :-\

This article made me sick

Neysanight


Indeed, a local officer I talked to - is well... Let's say - as cynical as any of us ;)

Good to have someone in your corner - and there's many more in not just local police offices, but the military as well. But don't expect them to be waving a banner saying so.
And dying in your beds, many years from now, would you be willin' to trade ALL the days, from this day to that, for one chance, just one chance, to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take... OUR FREEDOM!

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Re: Cops experimenting on mentally ill in Houston
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2010, 04:36:34 PM »
The blood sample laws in Texas are the exact reason I quit drinking and smoking pot. I want no part of the NWO's plans here in Houston. Recently there was a man who begged to have sobriety test due to a fear of needles. They held him down and took it anyway.

http://www.clipsyndicate.com/video/play/1459858/video_of_blood_draw_draws_questions?wpid=5435
 

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Re: Cops experimenting on mentally ill in Houston
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2012, 11:32:23 AM »
That is great news *sarcasm* We have gone back 100 years to the old sanitariums.

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Re: Cops experimenting on mentally ill in Houston
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2013, 10:48:28 PM »
it's rather creepy that they didn't need a legal guardians consent to practice on the prisoners.

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Re: Cops experimenting on mentally ill in Houston
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2013, 02:26:14 AM »
Welcome to Texas. We'll  get your blood even if it kills you.


Pasadena man dies in custody after DWI blood draw

http://www.yourhoustonnews.com/pasadena/news/pasadena-man-dies-in-custody-after-dwi-blood-draw/article_4136101b-b7af-5008-b6a0-a60f1dd9dad8.html

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A man has died after being arrested by Pasadena police for drunk driving, Pasadena Police Department spokesman Vance Mitchell confirmed.

Mitchell said Jose Sauceda, 41, died Saturday night (March 24) at Bayshore Medical Center after a mandatory blood draw was performed on him.

Sauceda was taken to the hospital after resisting field sobriety tests at the police station, Mitchell said.

“He didn’t really fight with (the officers), but he got to a point where he just didn’t want to do the field sobriety testing.”

Officers forced Sauceda on the ground and handcuffed him before taking him to the hospital, Mitchell said.

There, he was put on a stretcher and taken inside for the blood draw.

Family seeks answers after man died in Pasadena police custody

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Family-seeks-answers-after-man-died-in-Pasadena-3439649.php

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The family and friends of a Pasadena man who died last weekend soon after he was arrested on drunken driving charges said they want someone to tell them how his death could have happened.

Jose Sauceda, 41, died early Sunday morning at Pasadena's Bayshore Medical Center where he had been taken for a mandatory blood draw.

Norma Sanchez, his wife, said she learned Sauceda had been arrested about 1 a.m. Sunday from people who were with him.

"I called the Pasadena Police Department. They said they didn't have him in the system," Sanchez said.

She called several more times that morning and received the same answer: he wasn't in the system.

Two Pasadena police detectives knocked on her door about 8 a.m. Sunday. They asked if Sauceda had any marks on his body. She said no. The detectives then told her Sauceda had "lacerations" on his wrists and ankles and a scratch-like injury on his back. Stunned, Sanchez asked what happened and was told that Sauceda had been taken to Bayshore Medical Center.


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Re: Cops experimenting on mentally ill in Houston
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2014, 12:51:54 AM »
You done a great job go ahead.

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Re: Cops experimenting on mentally ill in Houston
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2015, 07:47:09 AM »
Really nice post, but damn these people are crazy. Perhaps also an appropriate post for dehumanization.
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Re: Cops experimenting on mentally ill in Houston
« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2015, 12:34:07 PM »
They can steal organs too.
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