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« on: June 10, 2010, 05:12:58 AM »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/7811048/GM-trials-begin-in-Britain-amid-controversy.html

Hundreds of genetically modified potatoes have been planted behind security fences in Norfolk in a new trial of the controversial science.
 
By Louise Gray, Environment Correspondent
Published: 6:06PM BST 08 Jun 2010

The GM trial was given the go-ahead by ministers as part of a publicly funded project to develop new disease resistant potatoes in Britain.

Scientists insist the new breed of potato could save the farming industry milllions of pounds and reduce the need for chemicals.

 
Born to be wild againBut campaigners claim the project, that has received more than £1 million of taxpayers money over ten years, is a "waste of money" that could threaten local farmers with contamination.

The row comes amid growing concern that the Government is trying to push GM food onto the nation's dinner plates.

A 'public dialogue' on the controversial technology, set up by quango the Food Standards Agency, is in disarray after the vice chairman resigned in protest at 'GM propaganda' and food campaigners refused to take part.

Caroline Spelman, the new Environment Secretary, has also come out in favour of the technology.

The latest trial at the Sainsbury Laboratory in Norfolk was the first GM trial to be given the go-ahead by the new Government and the potatoes have only just been planted.

The 192 potatoes have been implanted with a gene from wild South American potatoes that mean they are resistant to blight, the disease that caused the Irish potato famine.

Professor Jonathan Jones, one of the scientists carrying out the trial, said the new breed could save farmers millions of pounds in chemicals to stop disease every year.

"The green groups have very effectively misrepresented the technology to consumers as a dangerous ineffective waste of money. But it seems to me ridiculous to be against a technology that means farmers will have to spray less chemicals on fields when you are interested in the environment."

He was also unhappy at the £20,000 cost of security, after previous trials in Britain were vandalised by environmentalists.

"At a time when the public purse is stretched, it is ludicrous we have to spend tens of thousands of pounds on security to plant 192 potatoes when there are 100 million hectares of GM crops planted around the world."

The trial in Norfolk is the second GM trial to be allowed to go ahead in Britain this year.

Leeds University has also received around £1 million in public funding to trial potatoes that are resistant to nematodes, also known as the eel worm, that destroys crops in the developing world. The trial is being carried out on a remote maximum security site near Tadcaster.

Kirtana Chandrasekaran, of Friends of the Earth, said the trials could cause problems for neighbouring farms if pollen from the potato plants is spread.

"The Government is wasting millions of pounds of taxpayers' money by forging ahead with unnecessary and unpopular GM crops trials, which threaten local farmers with contamination," she said.

Pete Riley of GM Freeze said the trials will make people even more uneasy about GM following concerns that FSA dialogue is biased.

"I suspect the public remains sceptical and the fact that these trials are in the ground will only increase their concern. So the need for a broader debate than the one proposed by the FSA is more important than ever."

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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2010, 08:08:42 AM »

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Scientists insist the new breed of potato could save the farming industry milllions of pounds and reduce the need for chemicals.

Hey scientists my family has grown potatoes hundreds of years without chemicals and disease stick your gene modified potatoes.
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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2010, 12:06:03 PM »

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"I suspect the public remains sceptical and the fact that these trials are in the ground will only increase their concern. So the need for a broader debate than the one proposed by the FSA is more important than ever."

They don't seem to understand that more debate is not going to stop us from being concerned about the effects of GM foods.  We know that the dangers exist, and there is really no denying them.  The main question in this particular situation is, won't the potatoes pollinate with surrounding crops? What will happen if they do? Who owns these potatoes?
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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2010, 12:13:55 PM »

And will the fence keep bees from wandering over and visiting them and cross pollenating?
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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2010, 12:23:05 PM »

And will the fence keep bees from wandering over and visiting them and cross pollenating?

Right! Their "fence" is ridiculous. There's no containing GM plants once they get into the environment.
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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2010, 01:06:58 PM »

Right! Their "fence" is ridiculous. There's no containing GM plants once they get into the environment.

Fence is to keep people out - i dont think they care about bees !

even if it was an indoor facility - like that old xfiles movie - bugs would still get in and eta the crops - then the bugs would get out and get eaten by birds - and up and up the food chain we go until its people who end up eating it !
Slippy slope
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« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2010, 01:54:40 PM »

Fence is to keep people out - i dont think they care about bees !

even if it was an indoor facility - like that old xfiles movie - bugs would still get in and eta the crops - then the bugs would get out and get eaten by birds - and up and up the food chain we go until its people who end up eating it !
Slippy slope

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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2010, 02:00:55 PM »

siamese siamese i can deal with  - its more of this  dont want to see !

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« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2010, 03:02:30 PM »

Right! Their "fence" is ridiculous. There's no containing GM plants once they get into the environment.

Yep, it's like how Monsanto drives its' trucks full of GMO seeds with no top, right through the countryside. Then, when a farmer has Monsanto's crop growing in his field, they claim it as theirs. You know, for infringing on their patent. Truly evil.
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« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2010, 05:32:37 AM »

Yep, it's like how Monsanto drives its' trucks full of GMO seeds with no top, right through the countryside. Then, when a farmer has Monsanto's crop growing in his field, they claim it as theirs. You know, for infringing on their patent. Truly evil.
WOW - that is bad !
I didnt know they`d do that !
Evil isn`t a strong enough word.
how big is this fence i wonder - in the UK we are a relatively small place - it doesnt take much for this kind of thing to spread all over the place.

Very bad.

I wonder if i can get in a lab and engineer something to only eat genetically egineered freaks of nature ?

there must be something that would eat them - and if not then they must have been engineered to produce insecticede - mmmm, can`t wait to try those !

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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2010, 03:44:05 PM »

Nope, anything that eats them gets screwed up by the altered animo acids that don't exist in that combination in nature...
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« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2010, 09:59:05 AM »

Oh man. This is not good. the UK desperately wants to be the USA so they copy everything they do. Ireland desperately wants to be the UK so we copy them. Great. I don't want that GM filth over here  Embarrassed
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« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2010, 10:01:55 AM »

The first Field Trials in the UK for GM Crops was about 25 years ago.

The test consisted of releasing GM Sugarbeet.


BUT consider that the supposed "safe tests" are plants in glasshouses, which are supposed to be sealed environments. I can assure you that insects, pollen etc passes from the inside to the outside with the greatest of ease.




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« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2010, 10:03:50 AM »

I know they have been experimenting for a long time but they haven't had the balls to make it public til recently.
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« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2010, 10:13:24 AM »

I know they have been experimenting for a long time but they haven't had the balls to make it public til recently.

Its the Orwellian memory hole . . . .

Granted I remember because I was "there at the time"


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