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« on: June 09, 2010, 11:50:15 AM »

We've all heard the spin about how we should choose high efficiency bulbs... the ones with spiral tubes. As a result, we looked into the health problems that surround them, and were alarmed. These things can turn all of the wiring in your house into radiation antenna's. Read this article, and tell everyone that you know before these bulbs are made mandatory in this country (like in Europe). The actual story, with photos and sources can be found at http://healthwyze.org/index.php/component/content/article/419-a-new-method-of-poisoning-us-with-radiation-high-efficiency-light-bulbs.html

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A New Method of Poisoning Us With Radiation: 'High Efficiency' Light Bulbs
Written by Thomas Corriher    

I have long been known by certain friends and my entire family as that "crazy" guy.  The term was usually meant to describe me as being odd and unusual, rather than insane.  Although, a few of those people may have suspected the latter from time to time.  I'm okay with that, for being 'normal' is greatly overrated.  I am considerably smarter than most people, so I have often taken refuge in the fact there there has always been a fine line between genius and insanity.  Crazy like a fox, or crazy like a nut?  I guess it's entirely a matter of perspective.

One of my episodes of "craziness" occurred during the presentation of my 7th grade science project.  I was still in the public schools at that time, and the understanding of science by teachers and students alike was more than a little bit underwhelming.  They knew that light was really fast, but their overall understanding seemed to stop shortly thereafter.  When I began preaching to them about fluorescent lights emitting radioactive, electromagnetic fields that were guaranteed to increase a person's cancer risk: well, everyone's eyes seemed to glaze over as if I were speaking a foreign language.  I vainly explained that if these lights operated at high voltages, and these voltages were pulsed at high frequencies, then radioactive energy would be emitted, and moreover, they were already known for producing the full band of light energy (some of which is destructive, too).  It is how radio waves are made: frequency pulses.  The higher the frequency, the more dangerous overall, but voltage and proximity matter, too, in regards to its dangerous ionizing effects upon the human body.  They just looked at me as if I were the stupid one.  They had those 'he's so special' looks on their faces, in most cases.  Some had the 'he's so crazy' look.  It was incomprehensible to them that I actually understood the topic that I had tried to lecture them about.  Thus, I had the problem.  I believe my teacher even failed me, while the dumbed-down science projects like "Do Plants Need Water?" were graded highly.  It was the typical public school's act of rewarding only mediocrity.  Shortly thereafter, by some freak of the cosmos, it was actually proven by multiple independent studies that electrically-produced electromagnetic energy (radiation) from fluorescent lights and power lines were indeed a danger to health.  This was long before cell phones existed, and these were considered ground-breaking findings.  Eventually, my being 'crazy' (thinking independently and having a willingness to challenge authority) got me sent to military school to get "straightened out".  These traits would have been considered virtues in more noble times.
It is time for me to get crazy again, with a topic that has far more importance and significance than radiation from power lines and fluorescent lights.  Please read the remainder of this article with care, for it is vitally important that all of us spread this message, and you should understand why, by the time you have completed your reading.  I realize that few of our readers have backgrounds in electrical or electronics engineering, so I am going to attempt to explain some otherwise complex topics in plain English.  This article will explain that there is a new generation of light bulbs that produce radiation in a more dangerous manner than we have ever seen before.  Thus, I need to explain some very basic laws of electricity, so that readers may understand the dilemma that we all face.  Please patiently wade through this information, because you need to know it and understand it.  I promise you this on my honor.

Electricity really only exists in motion.  Nothing happens without power transmission ("current"), and therefore, there is no real power without its movement.  A disconnected battery is like a ship in a bottle.  The ship is not really a sea vessel, because it never has the motion of floatation.  Both these things have the potential to be more (a sea vessel or power supply), but they are both just paper weights until that time.
The 3 Core Types of Electrical Current (Don't Skip This)

There is D.C. (direct current).  This is the steady state current: meaning that the voltage never changes while the current is flowing.  This is the "cleanest" type of power.  It may come from a filtered power supply or a battery.  D.C. power will usually produce a tiny magnetic field along its wires; but overall, it will not bleed energy or effect other devices.

Next there is A.C. (alternating current).  This is a current/voltage combination that is constantly changing, as if it were produced by a standard generator.  It typically reverses itself (back flows) half of the time to show negative voltages and currents on equipment capable of measuring it.  As alternating current cycles from its maximum to its minimum value, the time this takes in seconds is mathematically computed to produce the frequency calculation.  In other words, frequency is a calculated measurement of how fast the voltage/current is changing.  For instance, the standard frequency for power in the U.S. is 60 Hz..  This means that the power peaks and then drops to its lowest value exactly 60 times per second.  Some readers may find it fascinating to know that this means the generators are rotating exactly 60 times per second too (60 R.P.M.).

Finally, there is pulsating D.C..  Pulsating direct current is a combination of D.C. and A.C..  The voltage and current with pulsating D.C. do not change in values, except for changing from a state of being fully on or fully off.  It is as if someone is quickly turning a switch on and off, but there are no middle voltages, or negative voltages.  On precision equipment, the on pulses usually appear as blocks called "square waves".

Why You Need To Know A Little Something About High Frequency Currents

You may be asking why would our readers need to know these things?  That comes really soon, so be careful what you wish for.  (Just kidding.)  As I mentioned earlier, a new radiation threat is upon us all.  In lieu of this, I must begin by emphasizing the 'radio' and 'radiant' roots for the word radiation.  They ultimately are descriptions of the same phenomena: radiant energy in the form of electromagnetic waves of pulsating energy.  So, how does the energy actually radiate itself outward?  The truth is, we don't really understand that part.  Physicists have pulled their hair out for decades over that question.  What we do know is that when things vibrate at a nuclear level or have electrical current changes, then these changes of state ― these frequencies ― cause energy to be radiated outward at the same frequencies.  This is how radio transmissions work.  Radio transmissions merely mix the audio (voice) signal with an exact frequency that listening radios are "tuned" for, and viola!  Or as my past electronics teachers would have said, in their fancy-smancy engineering terms:  "It will have imparted intelligence upon the carrier wave".  A good analogy of how frequencies operate is remembering the ripples from a time when you dropped a pebble into a small creek or pond.  You may recall that the ripples were reflected from the banks at exactly the same rate and distance that the original waves struck it.  The whole point of this paragraph is to make clear that the very basis of radiant energy transmissions and all types of radiation on the entire electromagnetic spectrum boil down to one thing: frequencies.  Frequencies determine how far the energy travels, how well it penetrates, and how it effects things.  The ultra high frequencies of gamma (ie. nuclear) radiation will quickly destroy a person through burns, cancer, or otherwise; while the low 60 Hz. of standard American power has little effect in typical exposure.  Frequency determines if the energy is radio, microwave, infrared light, visible light, x-rays, gamma, or ultraviolet.  There is real power in frequencies.  No pun intended. As a general rule, the higher the frequency, the more dangerous the energy is.  Nuclear radiation is at a really high frequency, for example.

For years, we have heard about how incandescent bulbs are bad for the environment.  This made way for a whole new industry of "green" bulbs, marketed to the growing portion of people who seek to address environmental concerns.  However, they actually compromise people's health, and are ultimately more harmful to the environment.

Common Symptoms Resulting From Exposure To "Energy Efficient" Light Bulbs

    * Dizziness
    * Cluster headaches
    * Migraines
    * Seizures
    * Fatigue
    * Inability to concentrate
    * Anxiety

There are lots of theories regarding how these bulbs can cause these effects, but they are speculative.  Very little research has been done.  Despite this, European countries are phasing out incandescent bulbs, and forcing the public to switch to the "energy efficient" alternative.

The new light bulbs stunningly emit two forms of radiation outside of the light spectrum: ultraviolet and radio frequency; and would you believe the F.D.A. is involved?  The F.D.A. states that in addition to visible light (U.V.A.), these bulbs also emit U.V.B., and infrared radiation; but let's not forget those radio transmissions!  These bulbs are also said to have a flicker rate of 100-120 cycles per second, which seems impossibly low considering the U.V.B. light that they produce, and of course, those radio transmissions.  It is painfully obvious that some lies are being told.  In any case, even a flicker as low as 100 hertz is more than enough to trigger severe episodes of epileptic seizures.  Video games are well known to do the same at a mere 60 Hz.  Judging from the bands of radiation released, the frequency is far beyond 120 hertz, so just start adding lots of zeros to get the point about how likely they are to trigger epileptic seizures.  These bulbs have negative effects on people with lupus too, which is something that has baffled everyone so far.  That's still not all.  They are known to damage the skin too, and did we mention radiation?  Watchdog organizations in the U.K. are clamoring about the issues mentioned above, and the fact that these bulbs also aggravate eczema and porphyria too.

Our staff has been doing this work long enough to spot the pattern.  The radiation from these bulbs directly attacks the immune system, and furthermore damages the skin tissues enough to prevent the proper formation of vitamin D3.  This will cause major cholesterol problems in time, and cripple the liver by preventing it from converting the cholesterol reserves inside the skin tissues (vitamin D2) into usable vitamin D3.  This has the potential to cause or aggravate, not dozens, but hundreds of disease states.  All that they had to do was shift the frequencies of otherwise benign light bulbs, and suddenly we have this mess.  It is as if the whole mess with fluorescent light bulbs gave somebody inspiration for how to radiation poison us, while tricking us to beg for it, in order to "save the environment".

The Energy Efficient Scam

One of my first lessons while studying Electronics Engineering was that energy efficiency is effected more by heat than any other factor.  That's why super conductors are always super cooled, and why your oven uses about 60 times more power than your television.  Heat equals wasted power.  That's written in stone.  Amazingly, standard light bulbs manage to be extremely energy efficient, despite the heat that they produce, and despite the fact that their light comes from heated elements.  In fact, they manage to waste less than 10% of the power applied.  This is because the heat resists the current flow in the wire coil ― to the point of practically cutting off the current.  You see, heat also increases resistance.  This breaking effect upon the bulbs' current gives standard incandescent light bulbs their overall low use of power.  My first engineering project was testing light bulbs with high-end testing equipment, to study this rare property.  I remember our teacher gleefully laughing at us as we sat befuddled by the fact that all of our calculations for voltages, currents, and power usage just did not add up.  He thought it was almost hysterical when we began testing the equipment itself.  The exercise was meant to be a memorable lesson about how heat may dissipate (or conserve) power in such a way that electrical devices at least appear to bend the rules of physics.  Another important lesson was that while theoretically incandescent light bulbs ought to be wasteful of energy, they actually increase their own resistance via heat to the point that very little of their energy is wasted.  Take for example how long a standard flashlight will produce bright light with one or two small batteries.  On the other hand, just try to power an oven with those same batteries for an exercise in futility.  The whole thing was fascinating to the point that I knew this program of study was meant for me.

The new generation of bulbs is supposedly designed to save us from a problem that does not exist ― inefficient conventional bulbs, so this is where the story about them starts to reek like dead fish.  The new bulbs, as you may have already noticed, do not produce a noticeable amount of heat.  This is because the light from the new generation of bulbs is produced by injecting pulsating electricity (having a frequency) into a chemical gas to radiate light, as in radiation.  Pay close attention to that frequency thing.  By the types of radiation that the new bulbs emit, we know that they must operate at frequencies astronomically higher than the 120 hertz that they are said to.  Somebody is certainly lying about them.  What's more is that technically, there is no reason for the higher frequencies to be used.  If a lower frequency produces the needed visible light, then why do these bulbs operate at unnecessary higher frequency bands, too?  These extra frequencies simply could not have been stepped up and oscillated (frequency generated) higher by accident, regardless of whether that oscillation is chemical or electronic.  Doing such a thing can make even an experienced engineer's head spin, due to the overall technical difficulties in frequency tuning; especially on the high-end.  Furthermore, are we expected to believe that none of the companies or regulators involved ever bothered to test these new light bulbs with an oscilloscope during the testing?  What else could an engineer test a new light device with?  A sound meter?   It's absolutely ludicrous to believe that they do not know.  Thus, the only explanation is that these bulbs produce harmful radiation by design.  They are designed to produce dangerous ionizing radiation outside of the range of visible light, which is known to be extremely harmful (ie. deadly) to humans, and it is all justified to solve an "environmental problem" that doesn't even exist.

The proof is already before you to observe at your leisure ― how they interfere with radios, cordless phones, and RF remote controls.  Can you smell it too?  This writer is practically gasping for air.

It Gets Even Worse.  Seriously.

This may be showing my age to some, but I never heard of 'dirty electricity' when I was in college.  It sounds like the super power for a comic book super villain, and in a way, it actually is.  Guess what it involves?  If you guessed frequencies, then great job.  For those of you with some electronics training, it is similar to the topic of harmonics, but the rest of you need not worry about this point.  Here's the quick and dirty about 'dirty electricity'.  The new age bulbs do not just directly radiate radiation from themselves, which alone would be plenty bad and reason for infamy.  Believe it or not, these bulbs actually inject frequencies back into the buildings' electrical supply lines.  This means that every wire in the building is also producing radiation too, like giant antennas, and at even higher frequencies.  Is there any reader out there who still believes the radiation poisoning is unintentional?  All I can say is God bless Dr. Magda Havas, of Trent University, who cataloged these findings with empirical data about the frequency ranges for both the radiation coming from the bulbs, and the 'dirty electricity' radiation that pulses throughout entire buildings.  She is credited for creating the following table.  As you view the table below, just imagine if the new age bulbs had been using an equivalent power to that of the regular light bulbs that were being tested (60 watts instead of 15).  It would be a fair comparison if both bulbs used the same power.
 

"The energy efficient compact fluorescent lights that are commercial available generate radio frequency radiation and ultraviolet radiation, they contain mercury - a known neurotoxin, and they are making some people ill. Instead of promoting these light bulbs governments around the world should be insisting that manufactures produces light bulbs that are electromagnetically clean and contain no toxic chemicals. Some of these are already available (CLED) but are too expensive for regular use. With a growing number of people developing electrohypersensitivity we have a serious emerging and newly identified health risk that is likely to get worse until regulations restricting our exposure to electromagnetic pollutants are enforced. Since everyone uses light bulbs and since the incandescent light bulbs are being phased out this is an area that requires immediate attention."

― Dr. Magda Havas

Prologue

It's ironic that people buy these bulbs to help the environment, because they emit mercury vapor when they break.  In fact, they're so toxic that you're not supposed to put them in your regular garbage.  They're household hazardous waste.  If you break one in the house you are supposed to open all of your windows and doors, and evacuate the house for at least 15 minutes to minimize your exposure to mercury gas.  Don't forget that mercury is a bio-accumulative toxin, so it remains in your body forever in ever growing amounts.

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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2010, 12:01:46 PM »

Excellent information!!!!  Thank you for posting it and I will be sending this far and wide.
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2010, 01:11:06 PM »

Bump -- this information needs to be seen!
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2010, 01:15:58 PM »

someone sticky this so everyone will see it!
This is really important

I dont know if its just me but when i occasionally go into a supermarket it sends my eyes funny
everything starts to look too bright, then i get like a flashing light in my eyes, then i get kinda light headed
think its the fluorescent tube type thing that cause it - sun glasses help
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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2010, 01:24:02 PM »

someone sticky this so everyone will see it!
This is really important

I dont know if its just me but when i occasionally go into a supermarket it sends my eyes funny
everything starts to look too bright, then i get like a flashing light in my eyes, then i get kinda light headed
think its the fluorescent tube type thing that cause it - sun glasses help

YES!  I get the same thing phasma!  

I also get horrific migraines and if I put on my dark Ray Bans-- I am okay.

I am getting rid of all these type bulbs out of my home today!

I agree this should be a sticky!
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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2010, 01:27:42 PM »

YES!  I get the same thing phasma! 

I also get horrific migraines and if I put on my dark Ray Bans on I am okay.

I am getting rid of all these type bulbs out of my home today!

I agree this should be a sticky!

You too? wow - anyone else?
How strange !
I wonder if there is some crazy assed super conspiracy that links haarp / chemtrails and the radiation off these legally imposed lightbulbs?

At home i use alot of natural light - i have a small stash of normal light bulbs and i have alot of candles that i use
this would be the ultimate way to get at people !
Scary !

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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2010, 01:31:45 PM »

You too? wow - anyone else?
How strange !
I wonder if there is some crazy assed super conspiracy that links haarp / chemtrails and the radiation off these legally imposed lightbulbs?

At home i use alot of natural light - i have a small stash of normal light bulbs and i have alot of candles that i use this would be the ultimate way to get at people !
Scary !

Getting a stash of incandescent bulbs together may not a bad idea. I do think that this is completely intentional. With the amount of dirty electricity that these bulbs feed into the electrical system of your house.. they make all of your wires into radiation-emitting antenna's.  Cancer rates will rise massively, leading to increased reliance on the medical system. The bulbs also cause problems with concentration. Accidental? I don't think so.
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« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2010, 09:51:59 AM »

They have the technology to make everlasting light bulbs & batteries. Will we ever be graced with them? No. No money to be made once everyone has a few of them in their homes.
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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2010, 09:57:35 AM »

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« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2010, 10:20:46 AM »

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They have the technology to make everlasting light bulbs & batteries. Will we ever be graced with them? No. No money to be made once everyone has a few of them in their homes.

Ever lasting light bulbs? Yes. I have them all over my home; they're called L.E.D.'s.

Ever lasting batteries? Nope. Perpetual motion is not a reality. The law of conservation of matter still applies here on Earth.
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« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2010, 02:13:06 PM »

Don't forget that alot of these light bulbs use mercury. Which could be a big reason for the headaches and symptoms.
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« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2010, 02:19:29 PM »

i wonder if the mercury vapourises? goes into the air . . .
it would if you broke one of course . . .
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« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2010, 02:35:04 PM »

You too? wow - anyone else?
How strange !
I wonder if there is some crazy assed super conspiracy that links haarp / chemtrails and the radiation off these legally imposed lightbulbs?

At home i use alot of natural light - i have a small stash of normal light bulbs and i have alot of candles that i use
this would be the ultimate way to get at people !
Scary !



with the radiation  it could be used to make people sterile  and increase cancer over time being exposed to it . 
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« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2010, 02:44:08 PM »

i may install some led lights tomorrow . . .

i think they ought to be ok ?

crazy assed freaks comin at us from every angle !
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« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2010, 02:59:13 AM »

with the radiation  it could be used to make people sterile  and increase cancer over time being exposed to it . 

That's the plan. They grace us with the solution to the problem of inefficient lights (a problem that doesn't really exist), which then cause diseases like cancer through the action of making a house radioactive. The dirty electricity that these bulbs feed back into the electrical system of a house turns the wires into radiation-emitting antenna's. I know the article is long, but it does explain this in detail. It's vitally important that everyone understands this. Then, of course, we'll all get treated for cancer with chemotherapy and radiation.
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« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2010, 03:02:30 AM »

I dont see what was wrong with old light bulbs !

they didnt use that much electric - compared to cookers / freezers / tv`s - why pick on light bulbs!

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« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2010, 09:31:00 AM »

I dont see what was wrong with old light bulbs !

they didnt use that much electric - compared to cookers / freezers / tv`s - why pick on light bulbs!



In my own research I see nothing wrong with Incandescent light bulb--it appears that there is a lot wrong with fluorescent ones though.  Angry

I also believe that the fluorescent light bulbs wreck havoc on our eyes as well!
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« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2010, 09:42:51 AM »

i cannot be in a room with fluorescent light bulbs - i feel unwell really quick - shades help.
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« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2010, 05:33:51 AM »

Good old-fashioned candles and some strategically placed mirrrors would fix everything Wink
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« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2010, 05:22:58 AM »

i got  some of those bulbs maybe 4 years ago and used them on and off  or maybe one or two at a time and i think they really messed me up

i reverted back to old ones and i think i do feel better

in Wikipedia under light sensitivity it says theyre bad for lupus disease autism  epilepsy vertigo and emit alot of uv

i am angry that the government or doctors or oprah or anyone didnt tell me of how some react to these bulbs

i think they dumb kids down too

when im around them i cannot read well

i think they speed up heart or slow it down

i have read this thing yet-can the emf waves travel through walls?maybe ill have to move to a cave in siberia-goodamn fools get a patent on something and feel they have to sell it even though no one tested it

who owns the stocks in these damn companies?

if i could be anyone id like to be a chinese slave working in a cfl lightbulb facory
i have no respect for you al gore-youre a nothing
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« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2010, 02:57:02 AM »

Excellent pic !

I remember when these bulbs were first introduced, they said they would last "ten years". They blow just the same as regular bulbs though - i find.

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« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2010, 07:03:47 AM »

Excellent pic !

I remember when these bulbs were first introduced, they said they would last "ten years". They blow just the same as regular bulbs though - i find.

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Yes, you're right they do not last 10 years, that is for sure! 

Excellent Dee's Illustration!
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« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2010, 08:15:47 AM »

I have 5 of these, currently unused, they were sent to me free of charge by my energy provider, presumably paid for by Gov funding. Enough said.
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« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2010, 08:39:02 AM »

Yes, you're right they do not last 10 years, that is for sure!  

Excellent Dee's Illustration!

The most likely cause of early failure of light bulbs is voltage surges.

Their ratings are probably based on ideal laboratory conditions where the power comes in at a steady, clean, 120V.  (or 110V)
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« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2010, 08:45:45 AM »

i urge people to be careful with this pseudo scientific info
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« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2010, 08:56:37 AM »

i urge people to be careful with this pseudo scientific info

The OP makes me want to buy some equipment (which I should really get anyway) so I can construct my own experiments.  However, 'dirty' electricity being carried through a home's wiring and broadcasting high frequency RF noise is not news.  The question is, what exactly are the health effects.
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« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2010, 09:14:24 AM »

I spent a small amount of time reading up on the subject. What I found was that the output of these bulbs very much depends on manufacture. Its all in the electronic ballast, and so one manufactures bulb will have a wildly different performance than another factory, and nothing on the label will give a clue.

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« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2010, 09:38:23 AM »

I can say that I have taken the cork screw light bulb out of my office light fixture over my desk, since doing that my eyes have not hurt nor have I had any vision problems as I was having previously with the cork screw light bulbs.  I also suffered from headaches when doing long periods of research and I have not had any headaches since changing to incandescent light bulbs--just sayin'
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« Reply #29 on: July 17, 2010, 11:26:35 AM »

I spent a small amount of time reading up on the subject. What I found was that the output of these bulbs very much depends on manufacture. Its all in the electronic ballast, and so one manufactures bulb will have a wildly different performance than another factory, and nothing on the label will give a clue.



So do we want more or less electronic ballast - what ever that might be! (a resevoir of some kind i guess?)

Did you come across any brands that are "better"
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« Reply #30 on: July 18, 2010, 09:20:43 AM »

Ah, great post, finally gave it a read. Going to get replace some of my lighting now Smiley.
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« Reply #31 on: July 18, 2010, 09:26:20 AM »

So do we want more or less electronic ballast - what ever that might be! (a resevoir of some kind i guess?)

Did you come across any brands that are "better"

Well before you hit full panic mode, are you scared of plain ordinary fluro tubes ?


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« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2010, 07:54:32 PM »

Well before you hit full panic mode, are you scared of plain ordinary fluro tubes ?


Fluorescent bulbs are bad for the health, but these new "corkscrew bulbs" (CFLs) are much worse.  You're comment sounded really condescending, but because I know you, I think I may have just taken it wrong.  Incandescent bulbs, through my experience and research, are much better for you. I have a personal preference for passive lighting.
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« Reply #33 on: July 19, 2010, 08:34:54 PM »

I spent a small amount of time reading up on the subject. What I found was that the output of these bulbs very much depends on manufacture. Its all in the electronic ballast, and so one manufactures bulb will have a wildly different performance than another factory, and nothing on the label will give a clue.

Actually I found quite the contrary was true up here in Ontario.

Made in NA CF bulbs have electronic ballasts made for 115 - 125 VAC. Aside from costing much more, they last a lot longer (in dry environments only) and produce markedly lass light, though an amount of light that is consistent with their labeling.

Cheap imported garbage CF bulbs (Often illegally imported or non CSA since UL is a joke) from the orient of the sort you find on sale in Walmart, Home Depot or house branded bulbs from Dollar stores (including corporate-branded "GE" (Thompson Imports) and Philips also rebranded import-garbage) are made in the orient for 90 - 110 VAC so that they actually consume 10% more power than rated, the ballasts overheat and they emit noxious odors from burning components in the cheap "ballast" power supplies and generally only survive a few months or burn out quickly due to being designed for lower line voltages.

These cheap bulbs give out more light per advertised "watt" because they are drawing more than the rated current from higher line voltages in North America and the ballasts are forcing a higher than safe voltage across the tube, thus also burning both the bulb and the ballast out quicker and producing more toxic refuse. Their fluorescent tubes do not profit from being left on (fewer starting shocks) as a correctly rated set of components (bulb and ballast) would either.


So if you want to do something for the environment and your wallet use the expensive bulbs and use twice as many  - it's the only way to save in the overall long run.

No word on fire hazards though I have seen many melted and burnt ballast holders on dead imported corkscrew CF's, though mostly they seem to blow out pretty quick with little drama
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« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2010, 09:00:15 PM »

- bumb for later.
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« Reply #35 on: July 21, 2010, 10:41:03 AM »

Well before you hit full panic mode, are you scared of plain ordinary fluro tubes ?



LOL! Me panic? Never yet.

Fluoro tubes i dislike because they hurt my eyes, I am not scared of any light bulbs though, I am just using the info provided to get rid of a potential problem.
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« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2010, 10:38:35 PM »

These things are a disaster near radio equipment, especially shortwave.
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« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2010, 11:05:27 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3YrEMlmE9E

video explains it all Wink
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« Reply #38 on: September 19, 2010, 11:17:20 PM »


This Magda person gets around.  Can you find anyone else doing research in this area?
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« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2010, 11:20:51 PM »

This Magda person gets around.  Can you find anyone else doing research in this area?


you could always google it Tongue

This is just something a friend shared with me on FB. I was tottally shocked and pissed cause just a week ago we bought these light bulbs hoping to save money but we just got sick roght after we bought them!!! im not saying they caused it but never the less we threw them away Angry
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