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« on: May 31, 2010, 01:26:04 PM »

http://www.sciencenews.org/view/feature/id/59391/title/Engineering_a_cooler_Earth

Home / June 5th, 2010; Vol.177 #12 / Feature Engineering a cooler Earth
Researchers brainstorm radical ways to counter climate changeBy Erika Engelhaupt June 5th, 2010; Vol.177 #12 (p. 16)   Text Size Enlarge
Engineering a cooler EarthGiant air-capture machines, like artificial trees, could cleanse the atmosphere of excess carbon dioxide. Michael MorgensternNone of the scientists in the room so much as blinked when David Keith suggested saving the world with spy planes spraying sulfuric acid.

Keith, a physicist at the University of Calgary in Canada, was facing an audience not likely to be shocked: nearly 200 other researchers, some of whom had their own radical ideas for fighting global warming. His concept was to spray a mist of sulfuric acid high in the stratosphere to form particles called sulfate aerosols, which would act like a sprinkling of tiny sunshades for the overheating Earth.

Keith’s idea may sound outrageous, but it is just one of many proposals for bumping the global thermostat down a couple of degrees by tinkering directly with the planet’s heating and cooling systems. Plans to cool the Earth range from shading it to fertilizing it, from seeding clouds to building massive supersuckers that filter greenhouse gases from the air. The schemes are all part of a growing field known as geoengineering: a subject once taboo for all but the scientific fringe, but now beginning to go mainstream.

So far the tinkering happens mainly in computer models, where researchers are trying to figure out geoengineering’s potential side effects. Yet some technologies are in the prototype stage, governments are starting to consider geoengineering seriously and budding geoengineers are working out how to proceed safely, and ethically, with real-world experiments.

“It truly is asking giant questions which nobody really knows the answers to,” Keith says — “like how we manage the whole Earth.”

In March, Keith and other experts met in a dimly lit chapel-turned-auditorium at the Asilomar resort near Monterey, Calif. In 1975, molecular biologists met at the same resort to write landmark guidelines to regulate DNA experiments. This time around, cloud physicists, legal scholars and government bureaucrats debated the relative merits of brightening clouds versus building artificial trees. In the end, the meeting-goers concluded that geoengineering research should cautiously proceed, in case Earth’s climate proves broken beyond the current means of repair: ratcheting down fossil fuel use.

Researchers have kicked around the idea of large-scale climate manipulation since at least the 1960s, when Soviet scientists suggested damming the Bering Strait as part of a scheme to warm Siberia and free shipping lanes of sea ice. But mainstream scientific attention began only about five years ago.

In a 2006 editorial in Climatic Change, atmospheric chemist Paul Crutzen suggested that sulfate aerosols might be used to intentionally cool the planet. Coming from a scientist who had shared the Nobel Prize for helping explain how man-made chemicals ate away the Earth’s protective ozone layer, the idea gained some traction.

Geoengineers poked their heads from the closet tentatively at first. But soon, ideas multiplied.

Quick and dirty

Keith’s spray planes fall into one of the most controversial categories of geoengineering: solar radiation management, meant to reflect sunlight away from the Earth. As geoengineering schemes go, solar radiation management would be relatively cheap and fast. It would also be effective: Blocking just 2 percent of the sun’s rays, scientists estimate, could cool the planet by about 2 degrees Celsius, roughly balancing the warming effect of doubling carbon dioxide above preindustrial levels.

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Cool but differentView larger versionOne obvious way to reflect light would be to hang something shiny between the Earth and the sun. Such proposals feel distinctly like science fiction, ranging from a fine mesh of aluminum threads hung in space to a swarm of reflective disks launched in stacks of a million every minute for 30 years.

A more popular idea among scientists is to pump tiny reflective particles high into the stratosphere, the atmospheric layer between about 10 and 50 kilometers up. To scatter light effectively, the particles need to be solid. But dispersing solid bits without clumping is nearly impossible, so one idea is to spray sulfur gases that turn into solids. Keith’s sprayers would use a mist of liquid H2SO4, or sulfuric acid, which forms small particles of the right size effectively. (###and these wouldnt fall as acid rain would they? ###

Volcanoes, whose emissions have long been known to cause temporary chills, inspired the idea of using sulfate aerosols as climate coolers. The 1991 eruption of Mount Pinatubo in the Philippines released about 20 million metric tons of sulfurous gases and cooled the planet by half a degree for more than a year. Geoengineers wouldn’t need to spray that much, because particles shot directly into the stratosphere would cool more efficiently than volcanoes. To reflect 2 percent of incoming light, geoengineers would need to spray between 1 million and 5 million metric tons of sulfur each year. ###so kicking off all the volcanoes with HAARP is a good thing then?###

A single fire hose to the stratosphere, running constantly, could potentially deliver enough. The cost? An estimated $10 billion per year to cool the planet 2 degrees.###cheaper than the bank bail out ! bargain !###

The environmental effects are an even bigger question, scientists say. For one thing, sulfur spraying would lead to whiter daytime skies and bolder, redder sunsets, because of the way the sun’s rays scatter off aerosol particles. ### already happening?###

Another question, at least at first, was whether spraying sulfur in the stratosphere would, like sulfur pollution from power plants, cause problems with acid rain and air quality. But where in the atmosphere sulfur is released makes a big difference, says physicist Jason Blackstock of the International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis in Laxenburg, Austria. “The sulfate particles that we would put in the stratosphere would be the same as those which cause acid rain now,” he says. “But by putting them higher, they stay up longer because they’re above the clouds, which means they aren’t raining out as acid rain all the time.” ###but they still come down then?###

A different problem is that aerosols can damage the stratospheric ozone layer. Chemicals known as chlorofluorocarbons, or CFCs, once common in spray cans and refrigerants, have depleted the ozone layer globally, and in particular over Antarctica. Now that CFCs are being phased out by a global treaty, ozone has been slowly recovering. But spraying enough sulfate aerosols in the stratosphere to push back the effects of global warming by 40 years would delay the recovery of the Antarctic ozone hole by about 30 years, according to a 2009 paper in the Journal of Geophysical Research-Atmospheres.

An even more worrying potential effect is on precipitation, says meteorologist Alan Robock of Rutgers University in New Brunswick, N.J. Injecting sulfur gas could reduce rain delivered during the Asian and African summer monsoons, which 2 billion people rely on for growing food, by as much as 15 percent, Robock and his colleagues reported in the Journal of Geophysical Research in 2008. That would make the new average rainfall “the equivalent of the worst monsoon year now, and weather would produce bad monsoon years with precipitation much lower than that,” he says.

In principle, injecting sulfur in the right way could minimize precipitation changes, says climate modeler Ken Caldeira of the Carnegie Institution for Science in Stanford, Calif. Injecting aerosols uniformly around the globe would result in less disruption of global precipitation patterns than focusing injection at the poles, a strategy some have suggested for saving the ice caps, Caldeira reported in February in San Diego at a meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science. In fact, he said, a geoengineered climate would seem more like the one we’re used to than would a climate with doubled CO2 levels. Still, he noted, “stratospheric aerosols are likely to cause some damage in some places.”

Seeing white

Another way to reflect light would be to harness the Earth’s built-in solar reflectors, clouds. And where there are clouds, there could be more clouds — or at least whiter ones, some researchers say.

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Five ways to save the planet View larger version | The United Kingdom’s Royal Society has rated geoengineering techniques according to cost, effectiveness (cooling power) and timeliness (considering both how quickly a technology could be deployed and how fast it would cause cooling).T. DubeOne leading geoengineering idea is to spray a mist of seawater into clouds over the ocean to make them whiter and brighter. Sea-salt particles in the spray would add more “seeds” to the air on which water vapor could condense, amplifying the natural cloud-forming process.

A fleet of 1,500 remote-controlled spray ships could whiten clouds enough to offset the warming created by doubled CO2, says engineer Stephen Salter of the University of Edinburgh in Scotland. He and John Latham of the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colo., even developed a working prototype spray ship.

One challenge: along with clouds comes rain. So cloud seeding can also affect precipitation patterns, as new computer model studies by Latham and colleagues show. In simulations of cloud seeding across 20 to 70 percent of the ocean’s surface area, less precipitation fell at the equator but more fell over the Amazon region on average over a 20-year period, the team reported last year in Environmental Research Letters. Other work by Caldeira and his colleagues suggests that brightening ocean clouds would generally increase rainfall over the ocean but decrease it over land.

Models by Philip Rasch, a climate scientist at the Pacific Northwest National Laboratory in Richland, Wash., who works with Latham’s team, also show that high levels of cloud seeding could cool the Arctic enough to restore disappearing sea ice. But the team can’t find a way to maintain sea ice, temperature and precipitation at desired levels at the same time. “You could optimize the planet to produce a sea-ice distribution that looks like today’s, but then temperature and precipitation would be off,” Rasch says.

What’s more, reflecting light is no permanent solution. Like a celebrity addicted to painkillers, a planet hooked on sulfur particles or cloud seeding would need to keep its fix coming to stay cool; turn off the juice, and temperatures climb right back up. And any solar management plan does nothing to counteract other ecosystem-wide changes caused by rising CO2 levels, such as the rising acidity of the oceans as they absorb more CO2. So most scientists say these methods would work only as a stopgap to head off the worst effects of warming while greenhouse gas levels are brought down by burning less fossil fuel.

Slow but sure

As an alternative, many researchers champion carbon dioxide removal — taking CO2 from the air using any of a number of materials, such as sodium hydroxide. This solution is essentially permanent, it keeps oceans from acidifying and it has few side effects. But it is expensive and could mean finding storage for billions of tons of carbon-containing stuff each year (SN: 5/10/08, p. 18).

Klaus Lackner of Columbia University and Calgary’s Keith have both designed air-capture systems. Using different industrial processes, each system would absorb and separate out CO2 from the air. That pure stream can be stored in geological formations, as is done in carbon capture and storage systems for power plants being tested in the United States, Canada and elsewhere.

At the Asilomar meeting, Keith announced that he plans to build an air-capture prototype over the next few years. Each unit could lock up 100,000 tons of CO2 per year, at a cost of more than $100 per ton. At that rate, absorbing all the CO2 that the United States emits each year would cost more than $580 billion annually and take 58,000 air-capture units. More realistically, Keith hopes to improve the system’s efficiency and lock up as much carbon as possible while also cutting emissions. Meanwhile, Lackner is developing his capture devices in a 10,000-square-foot Tucson facility through a partnership between Columbia and the company he cofounded, Global Research Technologies. The company estimates that within two years its prototype units will capture a ton a day for less than $100 per ton.

Machines aren’t the only way to absorb CO2. Some researchers are working on fertilizing ocean plankton with iron to stimulate their growth, enhancing natural CO2 uptake. Other scientists are looking into using large pipes to churn nutrient-rich waters to the surface for the same effect.

Several private companies have launched iron fertilization efforts in recent years, but with mixed results. One killed its project when faced with environmental concerns, while another faces continuing scientific questions about how much carbon dioxide is sequestered by plankton sinking into the deep ocean and how much is returned to the atmosphere as plankton decompose.

Moving ahead

Despite such uncertainties, public interest in geoengineering has snowballed in recent months. The U.S. House of Representatives held hearings to learn about geoengineering in November and March, and the Government Accountability Office has launched a major assessment. In September 2009 the Royal Society, the United Kingdom’s leading scientific body, called for £100 million in government funding for geoengineering research over the next 10 years. The society is also leading a study, in cooperation with the Academy of Sciences for the Developing World and the Environmental Defense Fund, that late this year will issue recommendations for regulating geoengineering research.

If funding can be found, several geoengineering technologies could be tested in real-world experiments within a few years. Working with Aurora Flight Sciences in Manassas, Va., Keith’s group has estimated that a civilian version of a U-2 spy plane could be adapted for less than $10 million to spray a ton of sulfur. That amount of sulfur is less than one-millionth the amount proposed for altering climate, so such an experiment would be used only to test the mechanics of spraying and perhaps study atmospheric chemistry.But spraying even a small amount of sulfur raises major questions, such as what could go wrong and who is responsible if something does. No international authority is in charge of saying whether Keith can do such an experiment. At Asilomar, scientists called for the development of voluntary guidelines because there is no major treaty or law that clearly covers geoengineering.

Even to scientists who take the idea seriously, the prospect of actually fiddling with the planet’s climate on purpose is frightening. “If you’d asked me a decade ago, I would have said that studying these issues is problematic, because the more you know how to do it, the greater the possibility that someone will do it,” says M. Granger Morgan, an applied physicist who heads a research program at Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh that examines solar radiation management. “I don’t want to see the world do this; I want to abate emissions,” he says. “But I think we’re at the point where it would be a mistake not to better understand what might be possible or whether it might work.”

Then again, not fiddling with the climate is just as scary to some. “We know the risks of CO2 are serious too,” Keith said at Asilomar. That makes geoengineering a lot like chemotherapy, in his view.

“Would you prefer to avoid eating carcinogens or have chemotherapy?” he asks. “Everybody would rather avoid the carcinogens, but if you already have cancer you might prefer chemotherapy to dying, even though chemo will leave you sick and make your hair fall out.”

And, of course, chemotherapy doesn’t always work — and sometimes it kills

the patient.



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Gauging public understanding

Preliminary results from a survey of 1,001 Americans suggest that few understand the term “geoengineering.” When participants were asked, “Have you heard about geoengineering as a possible response to global warming?”:

74% Said no

25% Said yes but incorrectly thought the term referred to geothermal energy, green building or some other issue

1% Said yes and described geoengineering correctly as a way to artificially cool the planet



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Desperate times and desperate measures

As climate researchers have grown increasingly alarmed by vanishing sea ice and faster-than-expected growth in greenhouse gas emissions, geoengineering has become less of a laughing matter in scientific circles. “Emissions reduction alone is not going to cause the Earth to start cooling this century,” says Ken Caldeira of the Carnegie Institution for Science in Stanford, Calif. Even if all CO2 emissions stopped today, he says, temperatures would increase for decades, if not centuries, warming the Earth by at least another half a degree Celsius as oceans slowly release stored heat.

Without a dramatic turnaround in emissions, CO2 levels will probably overshoot targets scientists consider safe, says Steve Schneider, a climate scientist at Stanford University. Today’s atmospheric CO2 level is 380 parts per million, compared with 280 ppm in 1850. Schneider has long advocated a 350 ppm goal — already surpassed — but even 450 ppm, a typical target in international negotiations, is fast approaching (SN: 12/5/09, p. 16). Geoengineering methods might work “as a temporary palliative measure you would use to hold the peak down, while you’re working on carbon removal and tremendously increasing mitigation,” he says.

The idea of using geoengineering to “shave the top” off a temperature peak stirs mixed feelings. “Deep down, I think it’s a bad idea,” says ecologist Rob Jackson of Duke University in Durham, N.C. “But what are we going to do? I can see scenarios now where we don’t have any other choice.”

Scientists don’t agree on whether geoengineering should be seen as part of an ongoing global temperature management plan or only as a possible last-ditch effort. But many do agree that geoengineers need to get cracking now on research and development.

“What happens if in 2040 or 2060 temperature increases are so high that crops are failing throughout tropical regions and billions of people are threatened with famine?” Caldeira says. “We’d better try to understand if there is something we could do, because there’s no other way to realistically stop the Earth from warming during the course of this century
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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2010, 01:40:09 PM »

Its also in the scientific press:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18757276

Philos Transact A Math Phys Eng Sci. 2008 Nov 13;366(1882):4007-37.

An overview of geoengineering of climate using stratospheric sulphate aerosols.
Rasch PJ, Tilmes S, Turco RP, Robock A, Oman L, Chen CC, Stenchikov GL, Garcia RR.

National Center for Atmospheric Research, Boulder, CO 80307, USA. pjr@ucar.edu

Abstract
We provide an overview of geoengineering by stratospheric sulphate aerosols. The state of understanding about this topic as of early 2008 is reviewed, summarizing the past 30 years of work in the area, highlighting some very recent studies using climate models, and discussing methods used to deliver sulphur species to the stratosphere. The studies reviewed here suggest that sulphate aerosols can counteract the globally averaged temperature increase associated with increasing greenhouse gases, and reduce changes to some other components of the Earth system. There are likely to be remaining regional climate changes after geoengineering, with some regions experiencing significant changes in temperature or precipitation. The aerosols also serve as surfaces for heterogeneous chemistry resulting in increased ozone depletion. The delivery of sulphur species to the stratosphere in a way that will produce particles of the right size is shown to be a complex and potentially very difficult task. Two simple delivery scenarios are explored, but similar exercises will be needed for other suggested delivery mechanisms. While the introduction of the geoengineering source of sulphate aerosol will perturb the sulphur cycle of the stratosphere signicantly, it is a small perturbation to the total (stratosphere and troposphere) sulphur cycle. The geoengineering source would thus be a small contributor to the total global source of 'acid rain' that could be compensated for through improved pollution control of anthropogenic tropospheric sources. Some areas of research remain unexplored. Although ozone may be depleted, with a consequent increase to solar ultraviolet-B (UVB) energy reaching the surface and a potential impact on health and biological populations, the aerosols will also scatter and attenuate this part of the energy spectrum, and this may compensate the UVB enhancement associated with ozone depletion. The aerosol will also change the ratio of diffuse to direct energy reaching the surface, and this may influence ecosystems. The impact of geoengineering on these components of the Earth system has not yet been studied. Representations for the formation, evolution and removal of aerosol and distribution of particle size are still very crude, and more work will be needed to gain confidence in our understanding of the deliberate production of this class of aerosols and their role in the climate system.

PMID: 18757276 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]Free Article

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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2010, 02:47:53 PM »

What I want to know is specifically, what was the date in history where it became "mainstream" or common knowledge that CO2 is poison gas that is going to kill us all?

I must have had the TV that I do not own turned off that week.
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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2010, 03:01:43 PM »

I don`t know about the CO2 thing - it seems to me that many things on this planet produce it - but the plants are supposed to keep it in check.

i dont like the sound of a co2 removal mechanism - if it goes too far then plants will die !

its all worrying in the extreme
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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2010, 02:06:46 PM »

"1% Said yes and described geoengineering correctly as a way to artificially cool the planet"

We have ALOT of work to do !!!
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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2010, 02:38:47 PM »

thanx phasma great articles and yes i believe 1% to be correct  due to my experience with the masses, maybe when they taste sulfur in the air will they wakeup, this is a sick world and getting worse Wink
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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2010, 03:02:35 PM »

Cheers - i think though they`ll just put it down to "volcanic ash" and complain that not enough planes are flying !

I particularly liked this bit: Did you all catch it?

"Would you prefer to avoid eating carcinogens or have chemotherapy?” he asks. “Everybody would rather avoid the carcinogens, but if you already have cancer you might prefer chemotherapy to dying, even though chemo will leave you sick and make your hair fall out.”

And, of course, chemotherapy doesn’t always work — and sometimes it kills the patient."

In other words they are gonna do what they want to do - and if a few of us die well, so be it - we were doomed anyway.
Am i wrong or is that what this "person" is in effect saying?
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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2010, 03:25:17 PM »

What I want to know is specifically, what was the date in history where it became "mainstream" or common knowledge that CO2 is poison gas that is going to kill us all?

I must have had the TV that I do not own turned off that week.

Here's an article from April 2009 that puts geoengineering together with fighting 'global warming'...

Obama Looking at ‘Geoengineering’ to Fight ‘Global Warming’
Thursday, April 09, 2009
By Seth Borenstein, Associated Press
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=46374

Washington (AP) - Tinkering with Earth's climate to chill runaway global warming -- a radical idea once dismissed out of hand -- is being discussed by the White House as a potential emergency option, the president's new science adviser said Wednesday.
 
That's because global warming is happening so rapidly, John Holdren told The Associated Press in his first interview since being confirmed last month.
 
The concept of using technology to purposely cool the climate is called geoengineering. One option raised by Holdren and proposed by a Nobel Prize-winning scientist includes shooting pollution particles into the upper atmosphere to reflect the sun's rays.
 
Using such an experimental measure is only being thought of as a last resort, Holdren said.
 
"It's got to be looked at," he said. "We don't have the luxury ... of ruling any approach off the table."
 
His concern is that the United States and other nations won't slow global warming fast enough and that several "tipping points" could be fast approaching. Once such milestones are reached, such as complete loss of summer sea ice in the Arctic, it increases chances of "really intolerable consequences," he said.
 
Twice in a half-hour interview, Holdren compared global warming to being "in a car with bad brakes driving toward a cliff in the fog."
 
He and many experts believe that warming of a few degrees more would lead to disastrous drought conditions and food shortages in some regions, rising seas and more powerful coastal storms in others.
 
At first, Holdren characterized the potential need to technologically tinker with the climate as just his personal view. However, he went on to say he has raised it in administration discussions.
 
"We're talking about all these issues in the White House," Holdren said. "There's a very vigorous process going on of discussing all the options for addressing the energy climate challenge."
 
Holdren said discussions include Cabinet officials and heads of sub-Cabinet level agencies, such as NASA and the Environmental Protection Agency.
 
The 65-year-old physicist is far from alone in taking geoengineering seriously. The National Academy of Sciences is making it the subject of the first workshop in its new climate challenges program for policymakers, scientists and the public.
 
The British Parliament has also discussed the idea. At an international meeting of climate scientists last month in Copenhagen, 15 talks dealt with different aspects of geoengineering.
 
The American Meteorological Society is crafting a policy statement that says "it is prudent to consider geoengineering's potential, to understand its limits and to avoid rash deployment."
 
Last week, Princeton scientist Robert Socolow told the National Academy that geoengineering should be an available option in case climate worsens dramatically.
 
Holdren, a 1981 winner of a MacArthur Foundation "genius" grant, outlined these possible geoengineering options:
 
-- Shooting sulfur particles (like those produced by power plants and volcanoes, for example) into the upper atmosphere, an idea that gained steam when it was proposed by Nobel laureate Paul Crutzen in 2006. It would be "basically mimicking the effect of volcanoes in screening out the incoming sunlight," Holdren said.
 
-- Creating artificial "trees" -- giant towers that suck carbon dioxide out of the air and store it.
 
The first approach would "try to produce a cooling effect to offset the heating effect of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases," Holdren said.
 
But he said there could be grave side effects. Studies suggest that might include eating away a large chunk of the ozone layer above the poles and causing the Mediterranean and the Mideast to be much drier.
 
And those are just the predicted problems. Scientists say they worry about side effects that they don't anticipate.
 
While the idea could strike some people as too risky, the Obama administration could get unusual support on the idea from groups that have often denied the harm of global warming in the past.
 
The conservative think tank American Enterprise Institute has its own geoengineering project, saying it could be "feasible and cost-effective." And Cato Institute scholar Jerry Taylor said Wednesday: "Very few people would rule out geoengineering on its face."
 
Holdren didn't spell out under what circumstances such extreme measures might ever be called for. And he emphasized they are not something to rely on.
 
"It would be preferable by far," he said, "to solve this problem by reducing emissions of greenhouse gases."
 
Yet there is already significant opposition building to the House Democratic leaders' bill aimed at achieving President Barack Obama's goal of cutting greenhouse gas emissions 20 percent by 2020 and 80 percent by 2050.
 
Holdren said temperatures should be kept from rising more than 3.6 degrees. To get there, he said the U.S. and other industrial nations have to begin permanent dramatic cuts in carbon dioxide pollution by 2015, with developing countries following suit within a decade.
 
Those efforts are racing against three tipping points he cited: Earth could be as close as six years away from the loss of Arctic summer sea ice, he said, and that has the potential of altering the climate in unforeseen ways. Other elements that could dramatically speed up climate change include the release of frozen methane from thawing permafrost in Siberia, and more and bigger wildfires worldwide.
 
The trouble is that no one knows when these things are coming, he said.
 
Holdren also addressed other topics during the interview:
 
-- The U.S. anti-ballistic missile program is not ready to work and shouldn't be used unless it is 100 percent effective. The system, which would be used to shoot down missiles from countries like North Korea or Iran "needs to be essentially perfect ... that's going to be hard to achieve."
 
-- Holdren said NASA needs some changes. He said the Bush administration's plan to return astronauts to the moon was underfunded so money was taken from science and aeronautics. Those areas, including climate change research, were "decimated," he said.
 
The administration will "rebalance NASA's programs so that we have in space exploration, a suitable mix of manned activities and robotic activities," Holdren said. Doing that "will only get under way in earnest when a new administrator is in place."
 
Holdren, who advises the president on such decisions, said he hopes Obama will pick a new NASA boss soon.


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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2010, 03:28:17 PM »

http://science.dodlive.mil/2010/02/27/haarp-scientists-create-mini-ionosphere-interview/

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“We can actually direct the signal within about 15 degrees of the zenith and move the signal in time,” he said. “So we can paint the sky. Similar facilities are typically restricted to three or four frequencies in that band, whereas we’re able to do more continuous frequencies.”

“That allows you to really expand the kind of experiments that you can do,” Selcher added. “You can start sweeping the beam around in space, and you can change frequencies to determine if there’s a frequency that has a stronger interaction with the ionosphere.”

Pedersen described a surprising advance in the use of HAARP transmitters. He explained that at full power, HAARP is energetic enough that its signals not only light up the gas molecules, they’re also able to knock additional electrons off, creating small areas of artificial plasma.

“Sunlight does that, and that’s how we get the ionosphere in the first place,” Pedersen said. “The aurora also does it. Electrons come shooting in from the aurora, from far out in space, hit the gas molecules, knock electrons off, and create a temporary ionosphere for the duration of time the aurora is there,” he explained.

In short, HAARP is able to create a small addition to the ionosphere. “We can add to the ionosphere enough that we can actually start doing experiments in that little spot of plasma that we created from the transmitter,” Pedersen said.

Pedersen remarked that the next step was to figure out exactly what’s happening in this artificial plasma and how to control it.

“This field has been data-starved for many, many years,” Selcher noted, “because there weren’t enough facilities that had the kind of power that HAARP has.” He explained that theorists proposed many ideas to explain ionospheric interactions, but the data wasn’t available to support them. HAARP is changing that.

“It’s a nice position to be in as an experimentalist,”he said.

[This story was modified from the original American Forces Press Service story, which can be found at Defense.gov.]

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