9 Killed/Hundreds Kidnapped by Israeli commandos who stormed Gaza Flotilla

[rio]

AJ is highly knowledgeable on many subjects.  On this particular subject, which is rather complex, he has shown that his understanding is shoddy.  Even some specific points AJ agreed with Mr. Mossad and Dr. Aipac on were complete verifiable falsehoods.

Aj cant know everything but in this area he should do a little more homework.  Hey maybe even read this thread to bring him up to speed on the current situation.  
Have McKinney on.

I agree with you 100% and even a few AJ haters have pointed out that he just doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to Israel, or doesn't know enough. Zionism is going mainstream and no one can ignore it without looking questionable. If AJ is to remain credible in the alternative media, he is going to have to address this issue in a relatively greater depth than he has, and not just in passing references. If he doesn't do this, then he will be nothing more than a slightly more honest Glenn Beck, but controlled opposition non-the-less.

I recommend having McKinney come on and talk about Israel and ZOG. She's hitting them hard right now and she has shown to have an extemely high degree of integrity since the media destroyed her back in 2005. Some other very credible guests that he could have on to discuss these issue would be Justin Raimondo, Andrew Carrington Hitchcock, Michael A. Hoffman, Michael Collins Piper, Ryan Dawson, Phillip Weiss and Jeff Gates. In fact, Michael Collins Piper lobbied to his audience to have AJ let him come on the show to talk specifically about the ADL and SPLC since AJ is having so many problems with these hate groups.

[Dig]

And there will be no investigation, cause we're now compromised into thinking the commando terrorists
had been on a desert island for months, the aid flotilla's real purpose was to provoke an attack and who gives a shit anyways about the Gazans, we're gods people, Gaza is the mecca for terrorism.

that is what you think? based on what? Chris Matthews?

who said they were on a desert island?

just because they may have been set up does not justify murder, wtf?

and who murdered the people anyway? the american was hit with 4 tight shots to the head...that was not based on confusion...that was an ASSASSINATION!

[InfoArsenal]

Have you listened over the past few days? His longest interview was with Mike Rivero. With the ex-Mossad guy, he was looking for more information concerning what conversations israeli intel was having and he got it. when the guy was completely stolid about 9/11, he abruptly ended the conversation and agreed to get him the undebunkable information and have him back on. As far as the people calling in, they were not against Israel, they were pigeonholing the debate to some fantastical Rockefeller/Harriman/Rothschild inspired race virus issue rather than the actions of specific criminals.

Maybe he did it because he actually has a brain and can look past the Tavistock programming or something, whatever.

Yeah he had Mike on for a long time because Mike is on GCN, but at the same time he was arguing with Mike about everything so you can't say he gave him support or whatever.

And yes I've been listening.

He LET that mossad guy basically shut him down. If a new listener was listening he would have probably thought, "Wow AJ is an idiot--obviously the Gov didn't do 9/11--all he has are random coincidences and he can't explain anything."

Also there's a big difference between calling out Zionism and Israel--AJ is now afraid to even use the word Zionist in any way to Israel. It's really simple AJ--Zionism is a religious form of government--a theocracy. You have all these Jews/Israelis telling you, "bla, bla, bla we are 'reformed' and don't believe in all the mysticism." Gee, then what's the 2000 year connection? That caller was bringing up a good point to AJ about the history of the Jews and their claim on Israel and he was just shooting him down.

AJ was playing up propaganda practically saying, "They've been there for 1000's of years fighting." Callers called in and called his BS telling him this is for the most part a recent EURO backed invasion.

Now he was forced to admit the truth, "Look, they have 400 nukes and they aren't going anywhere."

Okay AJ, but what about cutting off funding/supplies? Why doesn't AJ ask any of these Israeli's what benefit they provide America and whether or not they support continuing to drain the USA? An American was killed and it's like he doesn't even bat an eye after mentioning it.

Come on Sane--admit he's tip-toeing around this issue.  He needs to stop classifying his educated listeners as possible NAZIs, KKK, etc, who are attacking him and give them the benefit of the doubt. Sure there are kooks everywhere--but AJ should know better.

He carries a video and had the producer on about a possible conspiracy from the Catholic Church as the NWO, but he has to constantly backpedal about Israel/Judaism? When was the last time the Catholic Church invaded a country and murdered people or had black ops everywhere? He has a total double standard and this is relevant to what's in the headlines.

I mean come on man. You have to have a suspension of belief to not see what's going on. When an illegal kills someone in a drunk driving accident he will opine about it for 15 minutes. AJ's walking on pins when it comes to Israel.

That said he's doing a good job walking on pins.

[Viper]

Aj asked Mike when he was on if Mike believed israel was behind every form of evil in the world, words to that affect, afterwards he got on tarpley to talk about derivatives, next day said will cover the attack in third hour, blowing it out of water for half of show.
Mr mossad next ...

[Dig]

Yeah he had Mike on for a long time because Mike is on GCN, but at the same time he was arguing with Mike about everything so you can't say he gave him support or whatever.

And yes I've been listening.

He LET that mossad guy basically shut him down. If a new listener was listening he would have probably thought, "Wow AJ is an idiot--obviously the Gov didn't do 9/11--all he has are random coincidences and he can't explain anything."

Also there's a big difference between calling out Zionism and Israel--AJ is now afraid to even use the word Zionist in any way to Israel. It's really simple AJ--Zionism is a religious form of government--a theocracy. You have all these Jews/Israelis telling you, "bla, bla, bla we are 'reformed' and don't believe in all the mysticism." Gee, then what's the 2000 year connection? That caller was bringing up a good point to AJ about the history of the Jews and their claim on Israel and he was just shooting him down.

AJ was playing up propaganda practically saying, "They've been there for 1000's of years fighting." Callers called in and called his BS telling him this is for the most part a recent EURO backed invasion.

Now he was forced to admit the truth, "Look, they have 400 nukes and they aren't going anywhere."

Okay AJ, but what about cutting off funding/supplies? Why doesn't AJ ask any of these Israeli's what benefit they provide America and whether or not they support continuing to drain the USA? An American was killed and it's like he doesn't even bat an eye after mentioning it.

Come on Sane--admit he's tip-toeing around this issue.  He needs to stop classifying his educated listeners as possible NAZIs, KKK, etc, who are attacking him and give them the benefit of the doubt. Sure there are kooks everywhere--but AJ should know better.

He carries a video and had the producer on about a possible conspiracy from the Catholic Church as the NWO, but he has to constantly backpedal about Israel/Judaism? When was the last time the Catholic Church invaded a country and murdered people or had black ops everywhere? He has a total double standard and this is relevant to what's in the headlines.

I mean come on man. You have to have a suspension of belief to not see what's going on. When an illegal kills someone in a drunk driving accident he will opine about it for 15 minutes. AJ's walking on pins when it comes to Israel.

That said he's doing a good job walking on pins.

c'mon man, that guy is the most quoted guy on Hal Turner type Nazi websites with his book exposing parts of Mossad. AJ called him out on the Liberty and then cut him off about 9/11 and will have him back again. AJ let the guy expose himself. He has one the same thing with others. I have never heard the guy interviewed before but heard about his book because it is always quote to show how the jews own the world. it is amazing, the guy gets interviewed and AJ basically lets the guy slander himself with all sorts of BS and all people say is AJ is weak on the guy. The guy did it to himself. But the only reason he had on Mike for the longest time is because he is on the same network? Maybe he had him on that long because Mike knew his shit.

the only thing aj really bashed him on was the idea that israel blew up the south korean battleship when the US and NATO were all over the place. there may be a neocon faction involving israel in this false flag but to just target israel (especially when the most exposure needs to be about the flotilla massacre an continued batshit crazy hardline stance on gaza) just seems counter-productive. aj  seemed to be pointing this out.

bottom line that i heard was when he said something to the effect of, "i care about the second amendment, i care about state's rights, and i am oing whatever i can to try and tone down the rhetoric on both sides because the elites want to push a war and the majority of the people do not."

But go on with your bad self, keep calling him a grand apologist. Do not look at the fact that Paul, Steve, himself, and Kurt were front in center on this and the fact that he got the broadest spectrum of guests that I have seen. I also hope he gets Sheehan and McKinney, and McGovern, and Chomsky (was kicked out recently), and everyone else including even people who were on the flotilla.

If you think Israel is just some crazy state that is not being manipulated by puppet masters, then you probably felt the same way about Iraq, Afghanistan, Boznia, Somalia, Yemen, North Korea, and Iran. You probably felt the same way about Japan, Germany, and Italy in the 1930's an 1940's. Israel is the new 1930's Germany and I will never feel that Dresden was justified (nor do I feel that Rockefeller, Rothschild, Harriman, House of Windsor/Orange should have ever funded the Nazis in the first place).

[Dig]

Aj asked Mike when he was on if Mike believed israel was behind every form of evil in the world, words to that affect, afterwards he got on tarpley to talk about derivatives, next day said will cover the attack in third hour, blowing it out of water for half of show.
Mr mossad next ...

what did mike say?

he also asked tarpley and every other guest about israel. He has had on like over 10 guests in the last 5 days and only 2 were "pro-israel" and they both criticized the insanity of the massacre.

[Viper]

what did mike say?

Oh mike says the truth, "an act of war" is his stance, AJ asking that was right out of a glenn beck script.

[Dig]

Oh mike says the truth, "an act of war" is his stance, AJ asking that was right out of a glenn beck script.

wait, what? you are saying the question was illegitimate? He said that when Rivero inferred that israel was who everyone should blame for the north korea attack when the us owns the base all around, they have the largest surveillance system in the world at pine ridge, and they were running the war games and the investiggation. He asks the same thing from everyone about everything when such statements are mae. when the 24/7 catholic bashing was going on, he also tried to put things in perspective (even though he was the biggest proponent of the film lamp in the dark). when the iranian crap goes on, he works double time. but go ahead, think that it is only for israel even thougjh over 15 years of consistency in exposing many facets of war drums (no matter who is involved) is insufficient. yup, he is glenn beck. oh man, that statement was right out of a glenn beck script.

[Viper]

OK the catholic bashing was disgusting IMO, thanks for putting things a bit better for me.
Damn!, you got me.

[InfoArsenal]

c'mon man, that guy is the most quoted guy on Hal Turner type Nazi websites with his book exposing parts of Mossad. AJ called him out on the Liberty and then cut him off about 9/11 and will have him back again. AJ let the guy expose himself. He has one the same thing with others. I have never heard the guy interviewed before but heard about his book because it is always quote to show how the jews own the world. it is amazing, the guy gets interviewed and AJ basically lets the guy slander himself with all sorts of BS and all people say is AJ is weak on the guy. The guy did it to himself. But the only reason he had on Mike for the longest time is because he is on the same network? Maybe he had him on that long because Mike knew his shit.

the only thing aj really bashed him on was the idea that israel blew up the south korean battleship when the US and NATO were all over the place. there may be a neocon faction involving israel in this false flag but to just target israel (especially when the most exposure needs to be about the flotilla massacre an continued batshit crazy hardline stance on gaza) just seems counter-productive. aj  seemed to be pointing this out.

bottom line that i heard was when he said something to the effect of, "i care about the second amendment, i care about state's rights, and i am oing whatever i can to try and tone down the rhetoric on both sides because the elites want to push a war and the majority of the people do not."

But go on with your bad self, keep calling him a grand apologist. Do not look at the fact that Paul, Steve, himself, and Kurt were front in center on this and the fact that he got the broadest spectrum of guests that I have seen. I also hope he gets Sheehan and McKinney, and McGovern, and Chomsky (was kicked out recently), and everyone else including even people who were on the flotilla.

If you think Israel is just some crazy state that is not being manipulated by puppet masters, then you probably felt the same way about Iraq, Afghanistan, Boznia, Somalia, Yemen, North Korea, and Iran. You probably felt the same way about Japan, Germany, and Italy in the 1930's an 1940's. Israel is the new 1930's Germany and I will never feel that Dresden was justified (nor do I feel that Rockefeller, Rothschild, Harriman, House of Windsor/Orange should have ever funded the Nazis in the first place).

You keep putting words in my mouth and making stuff up assuming you know what I feel/think.

I'm talking about AJ and what's going on in the show. AJ is HOLDING BACK. He's using his guests and tip-toeing around to do what he's afraid of. Then he attacks people to put up this 'fair and balanced' facade.

Look at how passionate AJ is when it comes to illegals. He doesn't even have a drop of that when it comes to Israel. I mean come on. AJ gets way more shit from Jews/Israelis than Mexicans through the ADL, AIPAC, SPLC and when Israel gets caught with its pants down he doesn't drive them into the ground.

Some random uneducated guy calls in and says he thinks fluoride is safe and AJ totally flips out and makes a joke out of him. But then you have Captain Mossad calling in and telling him 9/11 is real and a police state is necessary for dumb Americans and AJ's tongue turns into a knot and he calls him a 'middle of the road' person. I mean WTF?! WTF

USA should not be supporting theocratic psychos who keep killing our people and laughing about it--not to mention THEY are going to start WW3. I don't care what stooges or whatever you want to call them, THEY are choosing to fill Hitler's/the NAZI's shoes and they deserve AT LEAST the same passion on calling out their shit as illegals.

[Not Deceived]

OK the catholic bashing was disgusting IMO, thanks for putting things a bit better for me.
Damn!, you got me.

It looked like you were actually growing a pair right until you said that, too bad.  

I wonder, will Jonesy ever have someone like Michael Hoffman on?  I doubt it.

[Dig]

OK the catholic bashing was disgusting IMO, thanks for putting things a bit better for me.
Damn!, you got me.

well we are in the middle of it, in the thick of it and the pope backe off. israel is still ratcheting things up, so i unerstand the situation. and the more the government of israel continues, the more they are doing exactly what the elites want.

the elites need an enemy, badly.

iran failed

catholics failed

communists failed

north korea failed

they need an enemy that everyone can target and the israeli government is playing right into their hands. IMO, they are becoming the biggest anti-semites around just as I wrote this when the pope was going fricking crazy...

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=165410.0

I also wrote this when the zionist israeli neocons looked like they were gonna false flag iran...

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=168263.msg1000385#msg1000385

And I continue to do the same over and over and over again in an attempt too expose to all the chess pieces that 99.9999% of the public are not in the big club. You and I are not in the big club. Over 99.9% of Israelis, Turks, Catholics, Jews, etc. are not in the big club. We need to wake up to this fact and wake others up to it.

We need to show these neocon leaders, or at the least their shock and awed followers that they are heaing into another Dresden just as the 1930's mind controlled sheep did.

But really man, I totally understand where you are coming from and 5-6 years ago, i would have been right there with you.

[Viper]

It looked like you were actually growing a pair right until you said that..

What was said was exactly what i needed to hear.

[Dig]

It looked like you were actually growing a pair right until you said that, too bad.  

I wonder, will Jonesy ever have someone like Michael Hoffman on?  I doubt it.

looks to me like he did grow a pair.

i wish the neocon israeli leaders grew a pair. takes a pair to do that, and so far they have not shown that they can deal with learning anything new.

[InfoArsenal]

It looked like you were actually growing a pair right until you said that, too bad.  

I wonder, will Jonesy ever have someone like Michael Hoffman on?  I doubt it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3E17DaIx-Y

[Dig]

You keep putting words in my mouth and making stuff up assuming you know what I feel/think.

I'm talking about AJ and what's going on in the show. AJ is HOLDING BACK. He's using his guests and tip-toeing around to do what he's afraid of. Then he attacks people to put up this 'fair and balanced' facade.

Look at how passionate AJ is when it comes to illegals. He doesn't even have a drop of that when it comes to Israel. I mean come on. AJ gets way more shit from Jews/Israelis than Mexicans through the ADL, AIPAC, SPLC and when Israel gets caught with its pants down he doesn't drive them into the ground.

Some random uneducated guy calls in and says he thinks fluoride is safe and AJ totally flips out and makes a joke out of him. But then you have Captain Mossad calling in and telling him 9/11 is real and a police state is necessary for dumb Americans and AJ's tongue turns into a knot and he calls him a 'middle of the road' person. I mean WTF?! WTF

USA should not be supporting theocratic psychos who keep killing our people and laughing about it--not to mention THEY are going to start WW3. I don't care what stooges or whatever you want to call them, THEY are choosing to fill Hitler's/the NAZI's shoes and they deserve AT LEAST the same passion on calling out their shit as illegals.

dude, you are all over the place. the fluoride thing was insane. the illegal thing was amazing because it was something that a whole state got behind and it stopped the planned amnesty bill and National ID bill cold. AJ exposed machete because he knew that it was going to fuel a race war where the mexicans would be targeted. the whistleblowers were mexican americans. he has also backe off a lot of it because rodriguez admitted he was wrong and pulled some of the scenes.

when the israeli thing happened he went full throttle, then the washington post and every single media source (outside the US) went full throttle too. this is gearing up to be another iran. christian zionists are chomping at the bit, they are the real fundamentalists who have been praying for this since jesus camp. every sermon by hagee lays this out. but go ahead, run with the crowd instead of reaching out to the people being manipulated by elite psychos. and by the way, concerning the us media like MSNBC that was running full pro-israel psyops, go back a few pages and see my post about that. i do not think you will find it too flattering.

yup, fluoride and illegals...yell at israel more than fluoride and illegals. how is that even a rational argument? AJ is alt media...he exposes bullshit and tempers full onslaughts all the time. he has done it over and over again whether it is catholics, the greek (remember how everyone was blaming the greek and then AJ got the right people on who exposed that the greek were being used?), the military, the cops. he is consistent in this. when there is something to be shocke about, he exposes it. then when the bilderberg psyops starts pouring on the rhetoric against cops, catholics, military, etc. he tempers the conversation and exposes the larger plans.

[InfoArsenal]

I'm not mad at Jones.

I just know what's going on and a lot of people who are mad at Jones for backing Israel do have some validity since it's the only thing he is wary of running directly at. And I honestly I don't blame him. They have a lot of power/money and they usually stick together. I mean that idiot host he had on was justifying AIPAC and saying an aid boat was looking for trouble when it had journalists on board  

AJ should have called out that retard right there and ask him what kind of representative of the news he is if he doesn't support journalism. I'm sick of this shit from Israel. Everyone bending over backward for them and their power is mostly an illusion. Just cut off the damn funding and they will shrivel up into nothing. Let's stand up and say no to the funding. Come on AJ.

But hey whatever Sane, if you're happy with AJ batting at 90% instead of 100% fine. Just don't tell us he is attacking Israel with the same intensity because that is obviously not true. I mean really, a 'Machete race war' would be nothing compared to thermonuclear WW3 or even war with Iran.

[oyashango]

Israeli commando who shot six passengers in aid convoy in line for medal

June 4, 2010

Six of the nine passengers killed in an Israeli raid on an aid convoy bound for Gaza were shot by a single Israeli commando, who is being considered for a medal of valour for saving his injured comrades as passengers attacked them with clubs, knives and even guns they had taken from downed Navy Seals.

Fresh details of the controversial raid, which has led to accusations of “piracy” and “state terrorism” being levelled against Israel, and which wrecked its strategic partnership with Turkey, emerged yesterday. There were reports that passengers who attacked the Israeli boarding party had been dragging three captured commandos into the hold of the ship when the shooting broke out.

And a British passenger who witnessed the deadly pre-dawn encounter in international waters said that some of the more peaceful activists on board had tried to protect captured Israeli soldiers being set upon by a hardcore of passengers, most of them believed to be Turks linked to an Islamic charity accused by Israel of having links to extremists.

The Israeli commando who killed six of the passengers of Mavi Marmara, the Turkish ferry owned by the IHH charity, said that he had been the last of 15 soldiers to rappel down the rope from an overhead helicopter on to the decks of the ship, which he described as “a battlefield”.

Identified for security reasons only as Staff Sergeant S, he said that contrary to initial Israeli Army reports, the shooting had started within minutes as he and his comrades were set upon by a “mob of mercenaries”.

As he landed on the ship’s top deck, he said he saw three of his superior officers who had landed ahead of him lying wounded, one with a bullet wound to the stomach, another shot in the knee and the third beaten unconscious.

Taking charge, he formed his men in a perimeter around the wounded, pulled his 9mm Glock pistol and opened fire on passengers he accused of shooting at the boarding party with guns taken off the first soldiers, who had been overwhelmed as they landed one by one.

“When I hit the deck, I was immediately attacked by people with bats, metal pipes and axes,” the sergeant recalled. “These were without a doubt terrorists. I could see the murderous rage in their eyes and that they were coming to kill us.”

He said he saw one of the passengers holding a seized pistol to another Israeli commando’s head.

His accusation that his assailants were mercenaries was based on the large amounts of cash found on a number of the detained and killed passengers, although other officials have suggested the money was destined to be given to Hamas in Gaza if the convoy succeeded in breaking the Israeli naval blockade.

New footage released by Israel, and apparently filmed by activists before the boarding had started before dawn on Monday, showed an Israeli assault craft full of helmeted commandos pull alongside the Mavi Marmara, where men waving metal pipes and a chain leant overboard to ward them off.

Others were emptying fire hoses at the Israeli boat below, while a stun grenade was dropped into the vessel, exploding among the soldiers.

Some Israeli officials have accused the Turks who attacked them of links to terrorist groups, although it was unclear why, in that case, the soldiers of Flotilla 13, the elite Navy Seals unit involved in the operation, were briefed only to expect peaceful resistance.

The question also remained as to why the passengers, if they were indeed terrorists, did not use deadlier weapons against the approaching naval launches and helicopters hovering overhead.

Alexandra Lort-Phillips, 37, an activist from Hackney, was on the Mavi Marmara when it was stormed and described seeing an Israeli soldier taken down into the stairwell below the deck where the soldiers landed.

“I went down the stairwell and there was a massive crowd of people and lots of shouting,” she said, after being deported to Istanbul.

“They had got a soldier who had boarded the ship from the roof. There was a sense of ‘My god, we’ve got an Israeli soldier’. I don’t think we really knew what we were going to do.”

“I saw a gun being taken. His gunbelt was removed and someone, I don’t know who, ran past me with the weapon and disappeared. They could have shot him but didn’t.” She said around 25 people were gathered around the soldier, who was held by his legs and stripped to his underwear as he was restrained.

“The women who were there were shouting ‘Don’t hurt him’.” Ms Lort-Phillips denied he was beaten, but said: “There were obviously some guys there who were extremely agitated by the situation. It is like you’d expect when there’s a fight between men.” As Israel desperately tried to limit the damage caused by the bloodbath on the high seas, the organisers of the aid flotilla said another boat was due to challenge the blockade and make for Gaza at the weekend.

The Rachel Corrie, an Irish-flagged ship, is named after a young American peace activist who was crushed to death by an Israeli bulldozer in 2003 while trying to prevent the army from demolishing a Palestinian home in Gaza. Organisers said it was steaming straight for Gaza with Mairead Maguire, winner of an Irish Nobel Peace Prize, on board.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article7144099.ece

[chaosgods]

this makes me sick.
the level of disrespect is wrong.
Israeli commando who shot six dead on ship may get ‘medal of valour'
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article7144448.ece

i have done a lot of reading in the last 24 hours on this subject and i still feel that I still have much to learn.
Gaza is in a bad situation and my heart feels for those in pain.
both sides should have stopped to take a breath, open up and use this sad event to open
up talks and a may to make sure that this would not happen again.

All those that are in involved in the blockade land and sea are apart of the bigger problem of disrespect
 and hate in that region of the world.
 
The protesters showing the same attitude ..
'Rachel Corrie' rejects deal.
http://www.jpost.com/Home/Article.aspx?id=177515

I am sure this is just the start of this unfolding story.

thank to s
your post lead me to some very good searches for information i will openly say
I was ignorant about.

There should be a deep investigation into this not because an american was killed.
Because human lives where taken in a situation that should not have happened
AT ALL.

[Viper]

Rachel Corrie ship will be close now.

On you go!!  VAMOS!!  Back-up is waiting. Let's save some lifes in Palestine!!

[Kilika]

Six of the nine passengers killed in an Israeli raid on an aid convoy bound for Gaza were shot by a single Israeli commando, who is being considered for a medal of valour for saving his injured comrades as passengers attacked them with clubs, knives and even guns they had taken from downed Navy Seals.

Why is this article refering to the Israeli commandos as Navy Seals? "S.E.A.L." is exclusively US Navy. Either the author is ignorant about military or trying to suggest something.

[Dig]

I'm not mad at Jones.

I just know what's going on and a lot of people who are mad at Jones for backing Israel do have some validity since it's the only thing he is wary of running directly at. And I honestly I don't blame him. They have a lot of power/money and they usually stick together. I mean that idiot host he had on was justifying AIPAC and saying an aid boat was looking for trouble when it had journalists on board  

AJ should have called out that retard right there and ask him what kind of representative of the news he is if he doesn't support journalism. I'm sick of this shit from Israel. Everyone bending over backward for them and their power is mostly an illusion. Just cut off the damn funding and they will shrivel up into nothing. Let's stand up and say no to the funding. Come on AJ.

But hey whatever Sane, if you're happy with AJ batting at 90% instead of 100% fine. Just don't tell us he is attacking Israel with the same intensity because that is obviously not true. I mean really, a 'Machete race war' would be nothing compared to thermonuclear WW3 or even war with Iran.

apparently you did not read the post because you are saying that israel has money and that is why he is not exposing them.

there are over 1,000 articles on each of the 10 websites. that is over 10,000 articles criticizing israel. i guess he covers for catholics because they have money, and neocons (according to the larouche guy that calls in every week yelling about JBS), and he covers fr the military because he says that the wars are driving them insane, and he covers for cops because he points out when the media starts their full steam attack on them and the fact that their 401k's are being targeted. but whatever, you have your talking points and i guess that limits your ability to actually read what i postsed.

[Dig]

this makes me sick.
the level of disrespect is wrong.
Israeli commando who shot six dead on ship may get ‘medal of valour'
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article7144448.ece

i have done a lot of reading in the last 24 hours on this subject and i still feel that I still have much to learn.
Gaza is in a bad situation and my heart feels for those in pain.
both sides should have stopped to take a breath, open up and use this sad event to open
up talks and a may to make sure that this would not happen again.

All those that are in involved in the blockade land and sea are apart of the bigger problem of disrespect
 and hate in that region of the world.
 
The protesters showing the same attitude ..
'Rachel Corrie' rejects deal.
http://www.jpost.com/Home/Article.aspx?id=177515

I am sure this is just the start of this unfolding story.

thank to s
your post lead me to some very good searches for information i will openly say
I was ignorant about.

There should be a deep investigation into this not because an american was killed.
Because human lives where taken in a situation that should not have happened
AT ALL.

i am sorry dude, but israeli leading neocons need to admit they were wrong ASAP or they will continue to create this swirl of anger targeting the entire country and the main religion of that country. gaza is a concentration camp and the banned items, the methods for distribution are insane.

[Dig]

"Six of the nine passengers killed in an Israeli raid on an aid convoy bound for Gaza were shot by a single Israeli commando"

This is the guy who needs to be investigated first. what was his intel, who gave him his orders. this looks like Waco all over again with Larry Potts using the chaos to assassinate everyone! who is this Larry Potts of the flotilla assault?!

[grapecrusher1]

Rachel Corrie is 150 miles off Gaza and scheduled to make port Saturday morning.

Here are some of the people on the boat:

Mairead Maguire from Belfast, Ireland, a Nobel Peace Laureate (l976) and Co-founder of Peace People, Northern Ireland.  She was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for her work for peace and a nonviolent solution to the Ethnic/political conflict in Northern Ireland. Mairead went on the maiden Voyage of Dignity in October 2008, the second successful voyage for the Free Gaza Movement.  She was also on Board ‘Spirit’ when Israel hijacked the Boat in International Waters, taking all 2l humanitarian passengers to Israel, where they were arrested, detained for a week in an Israeli prison and then deported.

Denis Halliday, from Ireland, a UN Assistant Secretary-General from 1994-98. Appointed by SG Boutros Ghali, he served as ASG UN Human Resources Management in New York and in mid 1997 to end 1998 as Head, Humanitarian Programme in Iraq to support the Iraqi people struggling under the genocidal impact of UN Sanctions. Since resigning from the UN in 1998, Halliday has delivered numerous parliamentary briefings, provided extensive media inputs and has given public/university lectures on Iraq, human rights, and the UN, in particular its reform.

Matthias Chang Wen Chieh is a Malaysian of Chinese descent. He is a Barrister of 32 years standing and once served as the Political Secretary to the Fourth Prime Minister of Malaysia, Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohamad. He is the author of three bestsellers, “Future Fast Forward”, “Brainwashed for War, Programmed to Kill”, and “The Shadow Money-Lenders and the Global Financial Tsunami”, published in the US and in Malaysia.

Mohd Nizar bin Zakaria,Perak, Malaysia, MP Mohd Nizar bin Zakaria is a Member of the Malaysian Parliament.

The passengers on board the ship have stated, “Communication is difficult and sometimes impossible and there are many rumors out there started by Israeli authorities, but there is no way we are going to Ashdod. We are, for sure, on our way to Gaza.”
http://www.freegaza.org/

Guaranteed they are hijacked and are towed into Ashdod where the media will cast about good feelings and cooperation.

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apparently you did not read the post because you are saying that israel has money and that is why he is not exposing them.

there are over 1,000 articles on each of the 10 websites. that is over 10,000 articles criticizing israel. i guess he covers for catholics because they have money, and neocons (according to the larouche guy that calls in every week yelling about JBS), and he covers fr the military because he says that the wars are driving them insane, and he covers for cops because he points out when the media starts their full steam attack on them and the fact that their 401k's are being targeted. but whatever, you have your talking points and i guess that limits your ability to actually read what i postsed.

"Talking points"?

You're the one moderating an Alex Jones web site, I'm just talking about what happened on the show. You keep bringing up all this general stuff that has nothing to do with what's going on in the news. How can you compare the Catholic Church and cops to the IDF, Mossad, and AIPAC? It's not even remotely in the same ballpark and Alex attacks the Catholic Church and cops plenty. Like I said he sell dvds that say the Catholic Church is running the world and it's like every other day he's doing thug-cop impressions.

Can we stick to the facts plz. Alex Jones attacked/exposed Machete more than what's going on right now (and it's like a freakin OPEN conspiracy with them now giving this guy a medal for killing Americans). This is like WACO on the high seas but it's bigger than that. Israel is an extension of US military power through the military Industrial Complex. Is the MIC no longer as big a deal as Machete?

Like I said, I'm not attacking Alex Jones. I'm making observations while noting what I'd like to see on the show. I'd appreciate not being attacked for it.

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It's not like S be AJ's spokesman, i guess Alex doesn't want things to blow up cause the man can see where this may lead.

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An EXCELLENT guest for Alex to have on about the Gaza ships, the middle east and world politics is JUSTIN RAIMONDO of www.antiwar.com . Raimondo is a libertarian conservative, a firm anti-statist, pro-freedom and a constitutionalist.  His analysis of middle east politics is outstanding.

This is Raimondo on the Israeli murder of an American citizen (born in NY) on the aid ship:

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2010/06/03/this-says-it-all/

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The actions of this brave young woman remind me of the Gaza aid activists who were just murdered by Israeli forces.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQyIKyd2gqA

About 50 seconds into this video, from Korean tv, a young girl repeatedly stands in front of an Israeli soldier about to fire on teenaged Arab boys demonstrating with a few throwing rocks.  The girl tells the soldiers "you're shooting at children...there is no one to shoot here...just pull back".  She does not attempt to stop the soldiers firing tear gas, but everytime a soldier puts his M-16 in the ready to fire position, this brave young women literally steps in front of the rifle to block the path of the bullet.  She probably saved the lives of one or more Palestinian boys.  This may be from Gaza or the West Bank, I don't know which it is, or if it happened recently or years ago.  She seems to have an American accent, and looks like she may be Arab-American, or maybe Greek or Italian heritage.  

Whoever she is, she should be applauded for standing up to tyranny, and putting her life on the line to save others.  She is lucky she was not murdered like Rachel Corrie, and American citizen killed by an Israel bulldozer.

And now the ship named Rachel Corrie sails to Gaza, to be intercepted and boarded by Israeli forces.

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I just listened to that interview and Ostrovsky, the ex-Mossad guy turned into Ostrovsky the Mossad guy as soon as AJ brought up The USS Liberty and 9/11 lol

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alex is not stupid... talking badly about Israel is the one thing that will destroy him.

he knows this and anyone with two functioning brain cells knows this.

if he went on a mega rant about Israel he would be all over the msm with parts in slow motion making him look like a rightwing nazi animal.

 

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Rachel Corrie ship will be close now.

On you go!!  VAMOS!!  Back-up is waiting. Let's save some lifes in Palestine!!

6pm  Michael Rivero Show  June 4, 2010

  Rivero reporting that the White House has just issued a statement that the Rachel Corrie should dock at Ashdod and have the Israelis deliver the goods to Gaza.  (Translation--They should bow down to the IDF just like the White House does)

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Good old Jeremy Scahill lambasting the corpse-like Koch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgivY8wyVQQ&feature=player_embedded#!

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alex is not stupid... talking badly about Israel is the one thing that will destroy him.

he knows this and anyone with two functioning brain cells knows this.

if he went on a mega rant about Israel he would be all over the msm with parts in slow motion making him look like a rightwing nazi animal.

It wouldn't be stupid to badly about Israel right now, besides the media/SPLC/ADL are all out of race cards.

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As expected the Rachel Corrie has been seized.

[larsonstdoc]

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/rachel-corrie-aid-ship-seized-by-israeli-navy-14831352.html


Rachel Corrie aid ship 'seized by Israeli navy'
Saturday, 5 June 2010

 

One of the last ships on a flotilla carrying humanitarian aid to Gaza, the Irish-owned MV Rachel Corrie, has been intercepted by the Israeli navy, according to reports.

The activists on board the ship reported via Twitter that three boats were following them for around twenty minutes.

Israeli forces then boarded and reportedly placed passengers under arrest.

The aid ship was seized 55 km (35 miles) out in the Mediterranean, a spokeswoman for the campaign group supporting the ship said.

The ship, named after an American woman killed by an Israeli bulldozer in Gaza in 2003, had been making its slow journey towards Gaza despite the deadly commando attack by Israeli troops earlier in the week.

Israel has not commented on the reports.

The MV Rachel Corrie, carrying some 750 tons of of aid including medical and school supplies, was meant to have travelled with the original convoy but was delayed by mechanical trouble which activists say they suspect was sabotage carried out by Israel.

Activists on the vessel, including Belfast-born Nobel Peace Prize laureate Mairead Corrigan Maguire and former UN assistant secretary general Denis Halliday, insisted they would not resist if Israeli soldiers tried to take over their vessel.

Irish minister for Foreign Affairs, Mr. Micheál Martin, TD said yesterday: “The Irish government has made clear that it believes that the Rachel Corrie should be allowed to proceed to Gaza and to unload its humanitarian cargo. Those on board the Rachel Corrie have indicated that they are ready to accept inspection of their cargo at sea, prior to docking in Gaza. However, the Israeli government has stated that it is not willing to allow any breach of their naval blockade of Gaza.

"The Irish government urges the Israeli Government to ensure the transfer to Gaza of the entire cargo of the Rachel Corrie, including cement which is urgently needed for the reconstruction of Gaza. The government continues to call on Israel to lift its blockade of Gaza. Pending that, Israel should immediately facilitate the import into Gaza of all goods, other than weapons.”

Diplomatic fallout and protests across Europe and the Muslim world have increased pressure to end the embargo Israel imposed after the Islamic militant Hamas group seized power in Gaza three years ago.

The blockade has plunged the territory's 1.5 million residents deeper into poverty and sharply raised Middle East tensions as the US makes a new push for regional peace.

Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu told his cabinet the Irish boat would not be allowed to reach Gaza. Foreign minister Avigdor Lieberman said: "We have made it clear to the Irish and others, no ship will reach Gaza without a security inspection."

This latest attempt to breach the blockade differs significantly from the flotilla the Israeli troops intercepted on Monday, killing eight Turks and an American after being set upon by a group of activists. Nearly 700 activists had joined that operation, most of them aboard the lead boat from Turkey that was the scene of the violence. That boat, the Mavi Marmara, was sponsored by an Islamic aid group from Turkey, the Foundation for Human Rights and Freedom and Humanitarian Relief. Israel outlawed the group in 2008 because of alleged ties to Hamas.

By contrast, the Rachel Corrie was carrying just 11 passengers, whose effort was mainly sponsored by the Free Gaza movement, a Cyprus-based group that has renounced violence.

Ms Maguire said the group would offer no resistance if Israeli forces come aboard. "We will sit down," she said. "They will probably arrest us... but there will be no resistance."

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An EXCELLENT guest for Alex to have on about the Gaza ships, the middle east and world politics is JUSTIN RAIMONDO of www.antiwar.com . Raimondo is a libertarian conservative, a firm anti-statist, pro-freedom and a constitutionalist.  His analysis of middle east politics is outstanding.

This is Raimondo on the Israeli murder of an American citizen (born in NY) on the aid ship:

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2010/06/03/this-says-it-all/

yup, been following him for a long time. he would be a good guest and the entire website is pretty amazing.

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"Talking points"?

You're the one moderating an Alex Jones web site, I'm just talking about what happened on the show. You keep bringing up all this general stuff that has nothing to do with what's going on in the news. How can you compare the Catholic Church and cops to the IDF, Mossad, and AIPAC? It's not even remotely in the same ballpark and Alex attacks the Catholic Church and cops plenty. Like I said he sell dvds that say the Catholic Church is running the world and it's like every other day he's doing thug-cop impressions.

And the 10,000 articles criticizing israel and hundreds of hours of radio. From "What does israel have photos of every single member of congress in  some compromising position or what" to "they have blanketed the gaza area with depleted uranium" on and on and on. saying he avoids criticizing israel is like saying he is not a passionate radio host.

Can we stick to the facts plz. Alex Jones attacked/exposed Machete more than what's going on right now

He did until the MSM picked it up, then he dropped it. this is standard for him. Have you heard him interject machete into the conversation this week?

(and it's like a freakin OPEN conspiracy with them now giving this guy a medal for killing Americans). This is like WACO on the high seas but it's bigger than that. Israel is an extension of US military power through the military Industrial Complex. Is the MIC no longer as big a deal as Machete?

Listen to Friday's show, he exposed how this is a definite path to WWIII and that Bilderberg right now is discussing finalization plans for an Iran airstrike. this is a lot bigger than Israel. The unemployment figures includes 400,000 fake numbers because of the census employment (which will only last 2 months). The euro is dying and europe needs a war. everyone knows about the one world agenda and support is failing. the environmental crap is not working to shift public opinion like they thought it would. their oldie but goodie tried and true "create another world war" is on the front burner and US involvement in WWI, WWII, and Vietnam were all started by embargoes and shipping lanes that got ugly.

Like I said, I'm not attacking Alex Jones. I'm making observations while noting what I'd like to see on the show. I'd appreciate not being attacked for it.

you are saying you are not attacking aj by saying "i understand that he is too scared to criticize israel" which is an outright lie on its face but then get all sensitive when i simply point out thiis overtly obvious talking point found on all of our favorite Hal Turner style websites. i would appreciate not being attacked for simply saying this.

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alex is not stupid... talking badly about Israel is the one thing that will destroy him.

he knows this and anyone with two functioning brain cells knows this.

if he went on a mega rant about Israel he would be all over the msm with parts in slow motion making him look like a rightwing nazi animal.

apparently you did not listen Monday because before the full onslought by the non-US MSM, he was front and center with an entire 4 hours all about the need to criticize this action. He has followed it up this week with over 10 guests bringing up Israel with everyone and criticizing the action-every one of the guests. And Friday he exposed how this is a clear path to WWIII if it is not shut down.

as far as the ex-mossad guy who is quoted all of the time at the hal turner websites, AJ had to explain to him that everyone knows the USS Liberty was no fricking accident! And then with the 9/11 discussion, he just pretty much cut him off. the guy exposed himself, it was pretty damn pathetic IMO. I hope when he has him back on, he brings up the articles by Duff from Veteran's Today and the multiple sources talking about Mossad involvement with 9/11 and how he could be the catalyst to expose whatever Mossad involvement there was so that he does not seem like a complete and total shill.

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Reid statement defends Israel, essentially blames activists for their deaths
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0604/reid-statement-defends-israels-essentially-blames-activists-deaths/
By Ron Brynaert
Friday, June 4th, 2010 -- 12:44 pm


Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) is facing a bruising battle this election year, and probably needs all the help he can get. According to Maplight.org, the Senate Majority Leader has received $179,640 in pro-Israel campaign contributions.

Following the lead of the Obama administration, and nearly all elected US politicians on both sides of the aisle, Reid is firmly defending Israel's interception of a "freedom flotilla" headed for Gaza, which resulted in the death of at least nine activists, including a US citizen, based on the grounds that the country has a right to defend itself.

Despite widespread condemnation from the world, and even from elements of the US media, few Democrats are willing to go against Israel, more for the sake of donations from AIPAC than votes, as many liberal Jewish Americans side with the activists.

"Israel is one of our strongest and most important allies, and the United States stands firmly with Israel at this critical time," Reid's statement says.

The Senate Majority Leader notes, "I deeply regret the loss of life in the flotilla incident, including the death of an American citizen."

Reports claim that Furkan Dogan was shot at close range, with four bullets in his head and one in his chest.

Reid then states that Israel acted to stop shipment of "weapons," but nothing was found on the boat except for a few slingshots and knives that the IDF highlighted in a series of videos on YouTube. Without a word about the controversial Israel blockade of Gaza, Reid also mentions fears of "terrorists," and then essentially blames activists for what happened for failing to accede to Israel's instructions while they were in international waters.

Israel has an obligation to protect its citizens and therefore has a clear right under international law to prevent weapons from getting in the hands of terrorists determined to target them. Israel indicated it was willing to put in place a process to ensure that legitimate humanitarian relief reached Gaza. Unfortunately this offer was rejected.

"Israel has pledged to carry out a transparent and thorough investigation of this incident, and I look forward to its findings," Reid's statement concludes, without mentioning that Israel has rejected any international probes undertaken by independent bodies.