9 Killed/Hundreds Kidnapped by Israeli commandos who stormed Gaza Flotilla

[needguide]

Alright guys, For sake of speculation, I think these Evil bastards want to start ARMAGEDDON,Sorry to use that word, I know it is from the book of book's, and has no relevance here on this post anyway.

[Viper]

I wouldn't be surprised friend, that's why i'm in a tizzy about prominent awakened folks not exposing the shit outta this, how's the remaining flotilla doing?, i'd love to get some news on them, when's the next flotilla leaving? Are the turkish ships close? maybe some statements from witnesses?

[needguide]

I wouldn't be surprised friend, that's why i'm in a tizzy about prominent awakened folks not exposing the shit outta this, how's the remaining flotilla doing?, i'd love to get some news on them, when's the next flotilla leaving? Are the turkish ships close? maybe some statements from witnesses?

The Big Question is,,Are they going to sweep it under the rug? Or jack it up?

[lovkarpin]

You can be Jewish, Christian, and Muslim in Israel and pray freely in Israel.

Can you say that about Islamic Republics in The Middle East?

i kid you not but there is quite a large jewish community in Iran. something like 25,000 jews are still living in Tehran, they have synagogues, hebrew schools and there are even a few kosher restaurants.
I remember reading a while back about how the Mossad during the Islamic revolution there false-flagged synagogues and jewish centers to make them leave and come to Israel, but apparently quite many of them are still living there. eventhough their numbers was something like 100,000 before 1979.

[EvadingGrid]

Interesting that at the time the Jews who promoted tourism to "Palestine" weren't promoting it as tourism to Israel.

Simple practical marketing decision.
Note Palestine means Land of the Philistines.

It was designed as a specific insult by the Romans.


 

[tritonman]

I concur.
This thread is about the flotilla attack and disputes of historic relevance should be posted elsewhere.

I would concur with that idea.

[Viper]

Simple practical marketing decision.
Note Palestine means Land of the Philistines.

It was designed as a specific insult by the Romans.

Bible Bashing thread ...>>>

In Morocco they have Jewish markets in their cities, but wtf does this have to do with ...   

[grapecrusher1]

I wouldn't be surprised friend, that's why i'm in a tizzy about prominent awakened folks not exposing the shit outta this, how's the remaining flotilla doing?, i'd love to get some news on them, when's the next flotilla leaving? Are the turkish ships close? maybe some statements from witnesses?

From what I have read and heard:
(a)  the Irish flagged Rachel Corrie is scheduled to make landfall on Saturday.
    -- the Israelis may offer some deal to have them land in Ashdod -- which doesnt make any sense
    -- the boat has turned off its beacon so to go undetected -- which doesnt make any sense
(b)  the Turks have backed off the idea of naval escorts
(c)  there will be a much larger flotilla dispatched in 2 weeks
(d)  the Australian reporter McGeough said the IDF soldiers were like "hyenas hunting" and whose partner was stun gunned

[needguide]

From what I have read and heard:
(a)  the Irish flagged Rachel Corrie is scheduled to make landfall on Saturday.
    -- the Israelis may offer some deal to have them land in Ashdod -- which doesnt make any sense
    -- the boat has turned off its beacon so to go undetected -- which doesnt make any sense
(b)  the Turks have backed off the idea of naval escorts
(c)  there will be a much larger flotilla dispatched in 2 weeks
(d)  the Australian reporter McGeough said the IDF soldiers were like "hyenas hunting" and whose partner was stun gunned

is it begging? to look allot like theater

O.K Edit... If you Were Them............ The Question is,How Is this going to look in the news? They Know The world is watching.

[Viper]

From what I have read and heard...

Thank you friend, feel a little more balanced now.

[Guns Equal Freedom]

i kid you not but there is quite a large jewish community in Iran. something like 25,000 jews are still living in Tehran, they have synagogues, hebrew schools and there are even a few kosher restaurants.
I remember reading a while back about how the Mossad during the Islamic revolution there false-flagged synagogues and jewish centers to make them leave and come to Israel, but apparently quite many of them are still living there. eventhough their numbers was something like 100,000 before 1979.

I heard about the "small Jewish parts of Iran and Iraq".

There is a video on youtube about it I think.

I believe they are one of the "oldest Jewish Tribes" since the beginning of Judaism in The Middle East.

I don't know if it is traditional for Jewish Women to wear something over their head to "not disrespect men" like in Judaism.

But, The Jewish Women had to wear something on their heads in Iraq and Iran in that youtube video I saw.

[needguide]

I heard about the "small Jewish parts of Iran and Iraq".

There is a video on youtube about it I think.

I believe they are one of the "oldest Jewish Tribes" since the beginning of Judaism in The Middle East.

I don't know if it is traditional for Jewish Women to wear something over their head to "not disrespect men" like in Judaism.

But, The Jewish Women had to wear something on their heads in Iraq and Iran in that youtube video I saw.

oldest Jewish Tribes?   Tribes? They were never a tribe.. That is far to savage...

[citizenx]

More details of the American killed.


Dogan is alleged to have been shot with five bullets, four in the head.[/i]

Not one coup de grace, but four.

This is Israel.  Gangster mentality.

This was an American boy.  Why aren't we sending ships to protect the next flotilla?


And, if necessary, why aren't we going to war with theri gangster state?

[needguide]

Not one coup de grace, but four.

This is Israel.  Gangster mentality.

This was an American boy.  Why aren't we sending ships to protect the next flotilla?


And, if necessary, why aren't we going to war with theri gangster state?

It is all a illusion, They will do, what they will do, They will do what they want! How many pictures have you not seen, of the crap that is happening? They show what they want! it is mind control!  think of all the Arabian goat herders you don't see,...! With the same value of life, as the American boy in the picture!!!!

[Viper]

It is all a illusion, They will do, what they will do..

BULLSHIT!!

"This is not a rehearsal. This is the final phase of humanity as we know it."

[needguide]

BULLSHIT!!

"This is not a rehearsal. This is the final phase of humanity as we know it"

Looks engineered to me! final count or not!

[Viper]

Looks engineered to me! final count or not!

I concur.

[Dok]

Gaza flotilla activist: 'I want to be a martyr'
Prayed he would die aboard ship 'with help of Allah'

In footage captured on the Gaza flotilla just before its departure this week, one activist described how he had attempted in previous ship convoys to become a martyr and that "with the help of Allah" he would succeed on the flotilla.

"When I went on the first convoy, I wanted to be a Shahid (martyr)," stated the passenger in a pre-departure interview with Press TV.

See an excerpt of the interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSAxAj2KIdU&feature=player_embedded


He was referring to several previous attempts by smaller flotillas to break Israel's naval blockade of Gaza.

Continued the passenger: "I wasn't that lucky. Second time, I wanted to be a Shahid. Didn't work. Third time lucky, with the help of Allah, I will be a Shahid."

A spokesman for the Israel Defense Forces commented on the interview.

"While the Gaza flotilla passengers had presented themselves as peace activists who would not act violently towards Israeli forces, this provides further evidence to the contrary," said the spokesman.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=162037

[citizenx]

Wanted to be a martyr -- not a killer.

Do you understand the difference?

Funny, how there are so few Christian martyrs nowadays.

And, needguide, not everything is a lie.  At least Erdogan is saying what a tragic loss of life this was in the case of this young AMERICAN man.

[needguide]

Gaza flotilla activist: 'I want to be a martyr'
Prayed he would die aboard ship 'with help of Allah'

In footage captured on the Gaza flotilla just before its departure this week, one activist described how he had attempted in previous ship convoys to become a martyr and that "with the help of Allah" he would succeed on the flotilla.

"When I went on the first convoy, I wanted to be a Shahid (martyr)," stated the passenger in a pre-departure interview with Press TV.

See an excerpt of the interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSAxAj2KIdU&feature=player_embedded


He was referring to several previous attempts by smaller flotillas to break Israel's naval blockade of Gaza.

Continued the passenger: "I wasn't that lucky. Second time, I wanted to be a Shahid. Didn't work. Third time lucky, with the help of Allah, I will be a Shahid."

A spokesman for the Israel Defense Forces commented on the interview.

"While the Gaza flotilla passengers had presented themselves as peace activists who would not act violently towards Israeli forces, this provides further evidence to the contrary," said the spokesman.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=162037

Sounds to me like, he wanted to be Shahid!

Gotta admire his faith!

[grapecrusher1]

Wanted to be a martyr -- not a killer.

Do you understand the difference?

Funny, how there are so few Christian martyrs nowadays.

And, needguide, not everything is a lie.  At least Erdogan is saying what a tragic loss of life this was in the case of this young AMERICAN man.

Nor does his delusional state of heading off to Nirvana and playing tush-ki-bob tag with 99 virgins justify his death as is implied by the post.

[needguide]

Nor does is delusional state of heading off to Nirvana and playing tush-ki-bob tag with 99 virgins justify his death as is implied by the post.

1234!, I love the marine core,,That justifies it better?

[EvadingGrid]

Well it was all designed as a publicity stunt, a propaganda exercise.

Interesting that have seen no mention that they are using an Israeli tactic, look up SS Exodus.


As to attacking a ship in international waters, when they could have just waited and legally boarded the vessel makes me wonder :

 "Have they reasoned its an easy way to help the Hamas Govt and fuel the internal civil war amongst the palestinians ?"

[Viper]

Well it was all designed as a publicity stunt, a propaganda exercise...

So 9/11, wako, ok city, ruby ridge, all "publicity stunts'' too?

[needguide]

So 9/11, wako, ok city, ruby ridge, all "publicity stunts'' too?

I hope he was saying "publicity stunts" with a alternate motive. Otherwise he would not have found his way to this forum.  

And he has been here forever...cut him some slack.

P.S so have you, I REMEMBER THE PIC OF THE GOOD LOOKING GAL, AS YOUR AVIATOR

[Viper]

Let's do all our people, all our lost, and all that's to come a favor and for once call it how it is, disturbing as it may be, ladies and gentlemen we have witnessed another terrorist attack.
Don't choose sides with the terrorists, don't cover up for them, you're gonna have the same blood on your hands too, a terrorist is a terrorist is a terrorist is a terrorist.

[Dok]

Let's do all our people, all our lost, and all that's to come a favor and for once call it how it is, disturbing as it may be, ladies and gentlemen we have witnessed another terrorist attack.
Don't choose sides with the terrorists, don't cover up for them, you're gonna have the same blood on your hands too, a terrorist is a terrorist is a terrorist is a terrorist.

[needguide]

Let's do all our people, all our lost, and all that's to come a favor and for once call it how it is, disturbing as it may be, ladies and gentlemen we have witnessed another terrorist attack.
Don't choose sides with the terrorists, don't cover up for them, you're gonna have the same blood on your hands too, a terrorist is a terrorist is a terrorist is a terrorist.

WTF? are you trying to say? That you believe in terrorist? I know you are smarter than that!


there I go again slow to listen, quick to speak

[Viper]

WTF? are you trying to say? That you believe in terrorist? I know you are smarter than that!

The terrorists have been running rampant since 9/11, what's needed is clarity, i don't blame the idf, i blame their controllers, but someone pulled the triggers and as terrorism progresses humanity slides further into hell.

there I go again slow to listen, quick to speak

I do that best myself.

[chaosgods]

i'm finding this "he was an american boy" thing a big stretch of the truth he may have be born here
BUT he left at the age of 2 years old.
That hardly makes him an american boy he was raised in a totality different culture than an american of his age.
ABC NEws
" Dogan was a high school student studying social sciences in the town of Kayseri in central Turkey. He was born in Troy, N.Y., and moved to Turkey at the age of 2. He will be buried in his hometown tomorrow."

Witch home town is it in the USA.

"Dogan's body was returned to Turkey today along with eight others, all Turkish nationals, who were on board the Mavi Marmara."

HE was an American we should send people now!
I'm afraid that is one piece of the propaganda i can't swallow.

[needguide]

i'm finding this "he was an american boy" thing a big stretch of the truth he may have be born here
BUT he left at the age of 2 years old.
That hardly makes him an american boy he was raised in a totality different culture than an american of his age.
ABC NEws
" Dogan was a high school student studying social sciences in the town of Kayseri in central Turkey. He was born in Troy, N.Y., and moved to Turkey at the age of 2. He will be buried in his hometown tomorrow."

Witch home town is it in the USA.

"Dogan's body was returned to Turkey today along with eight others, all Turkish nationals, who were on board the Mavi Marmara."

HE was an American we should send people now!
I'm afraid that is one piece of the propaganda i can't swallow.

It don't matter were your parent's had sex. A human Is a human......BUT a MAN IS A MAN!

It is hard for me to talk through these forums.. My main point is.. It don't matter were a person is from. if the rulers beat the old your team, my team, your country, my country, into peoples heads.... the whole game is rigged ,from the start.. Be sovereign in every since of the word, or your fate is with others hands!

[Viper]

i'm finding this "he was an american boy" thing a big stretch of the truth he may have be born here...

Dude, have some discernement, the msm is the home of controlled opposition.

[needguide]

Dude, have some discernement, the msm is the home of controlled opposition.

check my last post I edited it, big time

[grapecrusher1]

i'm finding this "he was an american boy" thing a big stretch of the truth he may have be born here
BUT he left at the age of 2 years old.
That hardly makes him an american boy he was raised in a totality different culture than an american of his age.
ABC NEws
" Dogan was a high school student studying social sciences in the town of Kayseri in central Turkey. He was born in Troy, N.Y., and moved to Turkey at the age of 2. He will be buried in his hometown tomorrow."

Witch home town is it in the USA.

"Dogan's body was returned to Turkey today along with eight others, all Turkish nationals, who were on board the Mavi Marmara."

HE was an American we should send people now!
I'm afraid that is one piece of the propaganda i can't swallow.

He was not a real american?

The Israelis stormed 6 boats one of them under the american flag, imprisoned 40 americans and the White House did zilch.  If it was the Iranians instead of the Israelis would the reaction be the same.

He left the US when he was 2 -- who cares he is american, so is the ship and so are a large number of people kidnapped by Israel.  Get a grip.  Complete nonsense.

 Hey chaos when does an american become a non american??

[Viper]

check my last post I edited it, big time

I completely agree, the war is the Totality against the Individual.

[citizenx]

i'm finding this "he was an american boy" thing a big stretch of the truth he may have be born here (sic)

As Monkeypox would say,

"Welcome, Mossad keyboard warrior."

I've been out of the country three years.  Am I no longer an American?  No more reason to be so ashamed?  How long does it take?

[Dig]

i'm finding this "he was an american boy" thing a big stretch of the truth he may have be born here
BUT he left at the age of 2 years old.
That hardly makes him an american boy he was raised in a totality different culture than an american of his age.
ABC NEws
" Dogan was a high school student studying social sciences in the town of Kayseri in central Turkey. He was born in Troy, N.Y., and moved to Turkey at the age of 2. He will be buried in his hometown tomorrow."

Witch home town is it in the USA.

"Dogan's body was returned to Turkey today along with eight others, all Turkish nationals, who were on board the Mavi Marmara."

HE was an American we should send people now!
I'm afraid that is one piece of the propaganda i can't swallow.

I am finding it hard to believe that anyone who has professed his undying love for Glenn Beck should be taken seriously.

You love Glenn Beck and hate Americans.

Well, I guess that actually does make sense, thanks for the clarification.

[needguide]

I am finding it hard to believe that anyone who has professed his undying love for Glenn Beck should be taken seriously.

You love Glenn Beck and hate Americans.

Well, I guess that actually does make sense, thanks for the clarification.

S, What are you talking about? his last statement was "I'm afraid that is one piece of the propaganda i can't swallow"  Is  it me our is it you ?

[chaosgods]

he should not have been killed.
I am not condoning the deaths of any of them.
I think a lot of use are just coming in to this story and don't have all the facts and
history in and around this event.

This story and stories surrounding it ,and posts are on the verge of hate and propaganda.
I don't know the outcome, but know that that part of the world is in danger of starting a fire that
will not be easy to put out.

I know that he was an american,
what i want to know is was he there to be a martyr?
did he believe in american values?
did he and his family believe in american values?
did he see himself as a american?

sorry i am not as fast at typing as most being a product of
California  public education.
I never professed love for beck like every thing he should be taken with a grain of salt.

[Viper]

S, What are you talking about? his last statement was "I'm afraid that is one piece of the propaganda i can't swallow"  Is  it me our is it you ?

S was asking us why we paid mind to someone who has professed undyling love for Glenda.
I guess it was for the guests, that's my excuse.

*Waves at all you delightful guests*