9 Killed/Hundreds Kidnapped by Israeli commandos who stormed Gaza Flotilla

[Viper]

The folks had the right of defense against paint ballguns too, whatever way this cuts it was a terrorist attack.

[Dig]

The folks had the right of defense against paint ballguns too, whatever way this cuts it was a terrorist attack.

oh, absolutely. in the dark of night, after being threatened for months. i mean, no way this is even plausible.

[Dig]

Crime writer Mankell held in Israel after aid boat attack: Sweden
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0531/crime-writer-mankell-held-israel-aid-boat-attack-sweden/
By Agence France-Presse
Monday, May 31st, 2010 -- 3:56 pm


STOCKHOLM — Swedish crime writer Henning Mankell, author of the Wallander detective series, is one of nine Swedes held in Israel Monday after landing from a Gaza-bound aid flotilla attacked by Israeli commandos, Sweden's foreign ministry said.

Mankell "has been detained ... In all, nine Swedes have been detained," ministry spokesman Anders Joerle told AFP, adding that they were not all being held at the same place and some had been imprisoned while others had simply been taken into custody.

"I think Henning Mankell is just being held in custody. I'm not sure. The Israelis have him in some kind of detention," he said.

Some of the Swedes had been very slightly injured, Joerle said, adding that some Swedes believed to have been travelling with the flotilla when it was attacked early Monday had yet to be reached.

The nine Swedes have reportedly been given the choice between accepting to be deported or to be tried in an Israeli court.

Earlier Monday evening, the foreign ministry countered a rumour set in motion at an anti-Israel demonstration in Oslo that Mankell had been shot in the attack, which left at least nine pro-Palestinian activists dead.

The 62-year-old author of the Wallander detective series joined the flotilla from Cyprus by way of smaller boats "after almost 48 hours of playing hide-and-seek with Cypriot police," Ship to Gaza Sweden said in a statement.

Mankell, whose books about world-weary detective Kurt Wallander have sold more than 25 million copies worldwide and have been adapted to film and television, said he was taking part in the flotilla to show his solidarity towards the Palestinian people.

"I think that when one talks about solidarity, one must always know that actions are what proves destiny," he told Swedish public radio last Thursday.

"It is with actions that we prove we are ready to support something we believe is important," he said.

In addition to Mankell, Ship to Gaza Sweden said nine Swedes were in the flotilla when it was attacked, including controversial Swedish-Israeli artist Dror Feiler, a parliamentarian and several doctors and academics.

The ships, carrying more than 700 passengers, were on a mission to deliver some 10,000 tonnes of supplies to Gaza, which has been under a crippling Israeli blockade since 2007.

Israel had warned the attempt to break the blockade was illegal and that it would intercept the ships.

[larsonstdoc]

  No way I would jump on a hostile boat with a paintgun as my first weapon.  I STILL DON'T BELIVE THEY HAD PAINTBALL GUNS.  IT IS TOTAL 100% BS!

[citizenx]

Unbelievable crap.

[Dig]

 No way I would jump on a hostile boat with a paintgun as my first weapon.  I STILL DON'T BELIVE THEY HAD PAINTBALL GUNS.  IT IS TOTAL 100% BS!

can you give us as much details about the segment as possible?

[Viper]

 No way I would jump on a hostile boat with a paintgun as my first weapon.  I STILL DON'T BELIVE THEY HAD PAINTBALL GUNS.  IT IS TOTAL 100% BS!

if you listen to the vids i posted, in-between the real shots, smaller paintball type shots can be heard too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSFwyWyVo74

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB-Mk4bFz-U

[larsonstdoc]

can you give us as much details about the segment as possible?

  We may have to wait for the you tube clip.  Rick Sanchez was interviewing Orem, the Israeli ambassador to the US.

  All of a sudden he says these commandoes are armed with paint ball guns.

  Then they drew their real weapons when things got out of hand.

  At the top of the hour, Sanchez mentions the paintball guns again.

[citizenx]

Dirty Sanchez!

[Viper]

Perhaps they were marking who was gonna survive and who had to be taken out with the paint?
But like Sane says, in the dark of night ...

[eddy64]

the israelis are trotting out the line that the aid would have gotten to the gazans if it had been given to them in the first place,  somehow i dont believe them after they said there was no humanitarian crisis in gaza.

[rio]

Flashback: Israeli ambassador to the US interrupted and booed off stage at UCI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8TZ9C_6LRk

We need more of this.

[citizenx]

Perhaps they were marking who was gonna survive and who had to be taken out with the paint?

What?

[larsonstdoc]

if you listen to the vids i posted, in-between the real shots, smaller paintball type shots can be heard too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSFwyWyVo74

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB-Mk4bFz-U

  Thanks viper.  I just don't know what I'm trying to listen for.  What kind of sound does a paint-ball gun make?  Obviously, I don't have one.

[Viper]

 Thanks viper.  I just don't know what I'm trying to listen for.  What kind of sound does a paint-ball gun make?  Obviously, I don't have one.

Like a spud gun, rapid bursts.

What?

Use your brain man! That's what it's there for.

[chris jones]

That is exactly what I'm talking about. You say "Mossad", but you do realize they are just a tool of those really in charge? There is no right hand or left hand, it's all one single hand playing the crowd. All the rest is just story clutter to confuse people, just like the accusor likes it. Stir everybody up and get them pointing the finger at each other and calling each other names and get them to use certain catch words as triggers for divisions in the minds of people, like the word "Mossad", or "Gaza", or "intifada". It's all the same con job. That's what I believe to be the case.

No doubt, no dispute whatsoever, the Moossad is a tool, (right hand) of the controllers.

[Dig]

  We may have to wait for the you tube clip.  Rick Sanchez was interviewing Orem, the Israeli ambassador to the US.

  All of a sudden he says these commandoes are armed with paint ball guns.

  Then they drew their real weapons when things got out of hand.

  At the top of the hour, Sanchez mentions the paintball guns again.

holy crap, watch him resign for personal reasons in the next 48 hours.

[citizenx]

Viper, if you're going to take aim at the IDF, you might want to be armed with more than a spud gun.  I find this totally un-frickin'-believeable.

That's all I'm saying.

[eddy64]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0LulDJh4fWI


 theres paintball guns in this clip, but what commando goes down onto a ship where his comrades are being attacked without a real weapon being drawn?  


seems strange to me.


but in other clips that ive seen from turkish tv the commandos had real rifles,  strange.  maybe the first group of commandos was sent in to provide pr footage and the rest had real rifles instead of paintball guns and hand guns.

[Viper]

Viper, if you're going to take aim at the IDF, you might want to be armed with more than a spud gun.  I find this totally un-frickin'-believeable.

That's all I'm saying.

It was the idf that had the paint guns friend, not the massacred.

[larsonstdoc]

  Viper, could the rapid fire be a automatic AK-47 type weapon?  I really don't know what the Israeli's use.

[Dok]

It was the idf that had the paint guns friend, not the massacred.

massacre?

[citizenx]

Either way it's unbelievable, but my bad.

[Dig]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0LulDJh4fWI


 theres paintball guns in this clip, but what commando goes down onto a ship where his comrades are being attacked without a real weapon being drawn?  


seems strange to me.

this looks like it may have been set up as a war game.

they do them daily.

it was dark, they were dropped in.

who knows what they were told. these drills are used to provke conflict. the movie 13 days exposes this bullshit. it was used in vietnam all of the time.

that is why i am very curious who provided the intel, who gave the orders, what were the orders, and what war games were going on?

all war games got cancelled after the incident. where did it happen exactly.

Greece has terminated joint exercises...

Greece cancels military exercises with Israel over flotilla attack
http://beta.thehindu.com/news/international/article442534.ece
DPA

Pro-Palestinian Turks shout slogans "death to Israel" as they protest against Israel, at the entrance of Israeli ambassador's residence in Ankara on Monday. Photo: AP.

Greece on Monday said that a joint air force exercise with Israel has been cancelled, following an early Monday morning attack on foreign activists by Israel?s military.

Greek Alternate Foreign Minister Dimitris Droutsas made the announcement following emergency talks with Israel?s ambassador to Athens after at least 10 foreign activists were killed after the Israel navy stormed a flotilla of six ships bound for the Gaza ship with aid.

The flotilla of six boats, containing 10,000 tons of aid had been warned before setting sail for Gaza that it would be denied entry.

Reports said there were more than 40 Greek activists, doctors and journalists sailing on the two Greek ships.

Earlier, Greek Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Grigoris Delavekouras said it was not certain whether there were any Greek casualties.

Greece's air force had begun joint training exercises with Israel off the southern Mediterranean island of Crete on May 9.

The manoeuvres, code named Minoas 2010, were expected to run until June 3 and consisted of aerial manoeuvres and knowledge exchange involving 10 Israeli F16 and F15 fighters.

The operation also involved simulated aerial combat, attacks on terrestrial targets, aerial refuelling and search and rescue missions from the air force base of Souda to the Aegean island of Aghios Eftrastio.

Greece and Israel began joint manoeuvres in 1994, although the aim to date had been natural disaster response. Combat equipment was first used in such exercises last June.

IAF and Greek Air Force Conduct Joint Exercise Over Mediterranean
Posted by Noam Eshel at 5/28/2010 8:20 AM CDT

The Israeli Air Force began joint training exercises with the Greek Air Force on the island of Crete in the Aegean Sea. The exercise, codenamed "MINOAS 2010", includes training for aerial combat, attacks on terrestrial targets, long-range missions and mid-air refueling. The exercise will also include search and rescue missions from Souda air force base up to the Aegean island of Aghios Eftrastio.

"MINOAS 2010", is scheduled to continue through the weekend. 10 IAF aircraft are participating in the exercise – five F-15I 'Rams' and five F16I 'Sufas'. These are the latest aircraft in the IAF combat fighter fleet and are able to carry out long-range attack missions. An IAF refueling KC-807 tanker is also reported to be taking part in the exercise.

On the Greek side, 15 - F16s are believed to be participating. It is also expected that IAF CH-53 helicopters will arrive in Greece to train in simulated aircrew rescue operations, behind enemy lines.

The IAF has recently carried out several joint training exercises with different air forces in Europe and North America in order to improve the capabilities of its pilots in long-range missions. The Israeli Air Force is training its aircrews to cope with various modern air defense systems, known to be deployed with Arab nations. The IDF spokesman's office confirmed IAF's participation in the joint exercise with Greece and said that it was planned in advance on this year's training schedule.


How close is Greece to Turkey to Iran?

[Dok]

 Viper, could the rapid fire be a automatic AK-47 type weapon?  I really don't know what the Israeli's use.

Tavor TAR-21 assault rifle

[Stan]

They do look a bit like paintball guns with those weird things on top (infrared footage). Could they have been large night scopes? I just don't understand why they'd jump on a ship with paintball guns. But then their whole approach leaves me baffled.

[chris jones]

To dupe the masses and give cover to a slaughter, what would be an insanely clever cover.
A few guys with paint guns, and the remainder locked and loaded.
They knew exactly what they were getting into!!!!!!!

Gee whiz, we boarded this vessel in international waters armed with paint guns, wer'e nice guys, these people are the real bad guys, They came after us, and gee whiz we had to kill some of them as much as we hated to, the paint guns didn't stop them  GEE ya know.

Whosoever smokes this, propandizes this fable is NWO controlled.

Insidios...B.S, exaclty what were commandos doing carrying paint ball guns. A cover.

[Viper]

  Viper, could the rapid fire be a automatic AK-47 type weapon?  I really don't know what the Israeli's use.

It sounds more like a "pop" than a "shot", basically, the paint guns were there as a fallback for the murderers, so they can say soft force was used first, but i don't buy it, maybe they knew the folks would believe they be real guns too provoking the poor cornered folks into defending themselves, but i go with the paint guns being used as markers.
These folks be so calloused over they've probably sold there souls many times over, and i'd say it was a cold blooded attack and they had every intention of doing some killing last night.

[larsonstdoc]

It sounds more like a "pop" than a "shot", basically, the paint guns were there as a fallback for the murderers, so they can say soft force was used first, but i don't buy it, maybe they knew the folks would believe they be real guns too provoking the poor cornered folks into defending themselves, but i go with the paint guns being used as markers.
These folks be so calloused over they've probably sold there souls many times over, and i'd say it was a cold blooded attack and they had every intention of doing some killing last night.

  Thanks and great observations

[Dig]

To dupe the masses and give cover to a slaughter, what would be an insanely clever cover.
A few guys with paint guns, and the remainder locked and loaded.
They knew exactly what they were getting into!!!!!!!

Gee whiz, we boarded this vessel in international waters armed with paint guns, wer'e nice guys, these people are the real bad guys, They came after us, and gee whiz we had to kill some of them as much as we hated to, the paint guns didn't stop them  GEE ya know.

Whosoever smokes this, propandizes this fable is NWO controlled.

Insidios...B.S, exaclty what were commandos doing carrying paint ball guns. A cover.

Need to look at wargames, what would have this cop done if nurses started stabbing him with needles. They were running war games with Greece in the area of where the flotilla was traveling. I am not excusing murder, but who planned the war games if that is what they were? The wargame question is glaring right now. If this cop would have unloaded on nurses, not only would he be responsible, but the hospital, NLE, war game corporations like CSIS, DHS, 9/11 commission, etc. who force these insanity psychopath drills on us all the time.

Off-duty cop pretended to be terrorist gunman in hospital’s unannounced ’safety’ drill
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0530/offduty-cop-pretended-terrorist-gunman-hospitals-unannounced-safety-drill/
By Stephen C. Webster
Sunday, May 30th, 2010 -- 7:48 pm

At the St. Rose Dominican Hospital in Henderson, Nevada this past Monday, a very unusual and terrifying scene took place that left nearly all its participants in shock -- both out of fear and genuine bewilderment as to how safety planners could be so stupid.

That's because last Monday, an off-duty police officer stormed into the hospital's Sienna campus, where the most sick patients are cared for, and pointed a gun at staff. He then ordered as many as 10 nurses down a hallway and into a room, according to a local report.

It all turned out to be a "safety" drill gone horribly wrong.

"Just last year, Henderson police shot and killed an armed, hostile man in the emergency room," The Las Vegas Sun noted. "So it would make sense that security and emergency preparedness have been a focus at the hospital.

"But in Monday’s incident, which occurred in a unit that houses the hospital’s sickest patients, nurses, patients and their families did not know it was a drill, said Renee Ruiz, organizer of the California Nurses Association, which represents staff at the hospital."

It was only after nurses were herded into the room that the officer explained the motivation for his dramatic rouse.

Andy North, the hospital's director of public policy, told the paper they'd engaged in an effort to make drills "as realistic as possible." He claimed staff should have been told ahead of time.

The officer's name was not released.

The hospital's media release page does not address anything related to the drill and the incident was largely ignored by other area media.

[Dok]

It sounds more like a "pop" than a "shot", basically, the paint guns were there as a fallback for the murderers, so they can say soft force was used first, but i don't buy it, maybe they knew the folks would believe they be real guns too provoking the poor cornered folks into defending themselves, but i go with the paint guns being used as markers.
These folks be so calloused over they've probably sold there souls many times over, and i'd say it was a cold blooded attack and they had every intention of doing some killing last night.

really? with all the news cameras that were around watching and hoping that something would happen. you do realise all this happened on 1 boat. no problems on any of the other boats.

[clint giles]

FAUKING SICKENING !!!!!


THATS ALL THAT CAN BE SAID


WHEN WE ISRAEL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR COWARDLY ACTIONS.

FAUKING HYPOCRITES,DO THEY FORGET WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN WHINNING ABOUT FOR THE PAST 60 YEARS.....DO THINGS NOT SEEM OR LOOK FAMILIAR TO THE 30'S + 40'S

[Viper]

Need to look at wargames..

Yes they coud have been duped, but that would mean they didn't know about the flotilla (not very likely), and if they did know it was the flotilla it doesn't then change anything.

[Dig]

FLASHBACK...

This is the scenario that they train for daily. Who knows, they could have been told this ship was carrying tons of weapons. that is why i am wondering where the intel came from. The paint ball crap requires a full response, other than wargames it makes no sense. Has anyone ever heard of commandos using paint ball guns for live incursions?


Israel Navy chief: Hezbollah-bound Iran ship carried hundreds of tons of arms
The Antigua-flagged ship was raided by the Navy not far from the coast of Cyprus before dawn Wednesday.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel-navy-chief-hezbollah-bound-iran-ship-carried-hundreds-of-tons-of-arms-1.4791
By Reuters, Amos Harel, Barak Ravid and Anshel Pfeffer Published 10:01 04.11.09

Israel Navy Chief Brig. Gen. Rani Ben-Yehuda said Wednesday that an arms ship seized near Cyprus earlier in the day had been carrying hundreds of tons of weapons.

Israeli commandos seized the ship before dawn on Wednesday and defense officials said it had been carrying missiles and rockets bound for Lebanon's Iranian-backed Hezbollah guerrillas, believed to have come from Iran.

[larsonstdoc]

http://www.ianwelsh.net/holy-sweet-lord-turkey-has-announced-they-will-send-another-flotilla-to-gaza—escorted-by-the-turkish-navy/

Holy Sweet Lord, Turkey has announced they will send another flotilla to Gaza—escorted by the Turkish Navy!
2010 MAY 31
by Ian Welsh
If they actually do this, it is the very definition of throwing down.

Wow.

Does Israel want a war with Turkey?  They can’t win it, short of using nukes, and Turkey is a NATO member, if Israel attacks NATO ships, Turkey can invoke Article V (in fact, they can invoke it already, since the ships were attacked by a non NATO power on the high seas.)  If Turkey does so, of course NATO nations will refuse, but doing so will break NATO.

This is high stakes.

Update: I might add that in the case of a war between Turkey and Israel, if Turkey is serious, unless Israel uses nukes, my money is on the Turks.  They have a huge armored corp, and the nations between Israel and Turkey aren’t going to say no if Turkey asks for access (because if they do, Turkey will just roll right through them.)  Also if Turkey and Israel goes to war, it’s at least 50/50 the Egypt jumps in as well.

Israel is really playing with fire on this one.

Update 2: See Sean-Paul’s comments on the domestic reasons of Turkey’s reaction, and what the death of the Israeli/Turkish Entente means.

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[Viper]

massacre?

Cynthia McKinney condemns Israeli massacre of activists
http://www.greenpartywatch.org/2010/05/31/cynthia-mckinney-condemns-israeli-massacre-of-activists/

@Dok and anyone else i offended with my "i piss on your holy wall" baby momma drama, i'm sorry and take it back i was angry at the idf troll who wanted to blow shit up.

[psy0ps]

Gaza Aid Flotilla: Israel Will Once Again Get Away with Murder  
Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
May 31, 2010
http://www.infowars.com/gaza-aid-flotilla-israel-will-once-again-get-away-with-murder/

Israel will not suffer meaningful consequence for its brutal attack on a flotilla of ships headed for Gaza earlier today. It is reported the attack killed 20 humanitarian activists. The military commando raid set off a storm of international protest and drew condemnations from leaders of Spain, Sweden, France, Germany, the U.N., the European Union and Arab League.

Not that it matters. Israel is basically allowed to kill anybody who opposes its annexation of Arab land and the wanton murder of Palestinians.

The Israeli military killed 34 and wounded 171 crew members aboard the USS Liberty on June 8, 1967, during the Arab-Israeli war and suffered no consequence. Israel said it had confused the intelligence ship for an Egyptian vessel. Many intelligence and military officials dispute Israel’s explanation, but that does not matter. Israel has a carte blanche to murder at will. It is almost completely irrelevant when nations and aggrieved parties complain.

Israel assassins have killed hundreds of people, including the Swedish aristocrat Folke Bernadotte. It is suspected Mossad attempted to kill ambassador John Gunther Dean, the top U.S. diplomat in Lebanon. Israel is suspected of recent killings in Dubai, Damascus and Beirut. “While Israel’s Mossad spy agency has been suspected of staging assassinations across the world since the 1970s, it does not officially acknowledge or admit its activities,” the Times Online reported in February after a bus carrying Iranian officials and Hamas members exploded outside Damascus.

Sovereignty means nothing to Israel. It has hundreds of agents, including members of Mossad operating in the Kurdish areas of northern Iraq, Iran and Syria. In July of 2006, Israel killed hundreds of civilians in Lebanon, an effort that included U.S. participation. At the time, Bush’s Deputy Secretary of State, the neocon Richard Armitage, said the illegal attack on Lebanon was a template the U.S. should use for an attack on Iran.

Earlier this year Iran captured Jundallah leader Abdolmalek Rigi. In an interview, Rigi told Press TV that before his arrest Jundallah had held a series of meetings in Casablanca with a group who had claimed to be NATO contacts and said suspected Israeli or U.S. agents had given him a list of people to assassinate in Tehran.

The media in Israel proudly admits that PM Benjamin Netanyahu authorized the assassination of Hamas commander Mahmoud al-Mabhouh in Dubai on January 19, 2010. The assassins carried Irish, British, French and Australian passports. Dubai police said that the assassins obtained credit cards issued by an American bank using their passports, and then used them to buy plane tickets and other items related to the assassination.

Non-violent political and humanitarian activists are a favored target of the Israeli state. In 2003, an Israeli military bulldozer killed Rachel Corrie, an American member of the International Solidarity Movement. On 11 April 2003, Tom Hurndall, a British volunteer for the International Solidarity Movement, was fatally shot in the head by an IDF sniper in the Gaza Strip.

Israel is immune to international condemnation of its murderous efforts to continue the illegal and immoral colonialist occupation of Palestine. Editorials of outrage and condemnation published in Europe, the Arab world, and the United States over the latest psychopathic episode will not deter Israel in the least, not so long as an AIPAC-mesmerized (and intimidated) Congress continues to shower Israel with billions of dollars and remains silent on its homicidal rampages.

Nothing short of ending the generous largess provided by the American taxpayer to the state of Israel will put an end to its murder campaign.

Israel is by far the largest recipient of U.S. foreign aid.  Since 1949, the United States has provided Israel with $101 billion in total aid, of which $53 billion has been military aid. For the last 20-plus years, Israel has received an average of $3 billion annually in grant aid, note Kathleen and Bill Christison.

The “raid” on the humanitarian flotilla received the “full backing” of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Following the murderous attack, Netanyahu canceled this week’s scheduled meeting with Obama.

Obama “expressed deep regret at the loss of life in today’s incident, and concern for the wounded,” notes a statement released by the White House. He “also expressed the importance of learning all the facts and circumstances around this morning’s tragic events as soon as possible,” according to CNN.

In order to once again excuse Israeli barbarity, CNN said the lives of the heavily armed and professionally trained Israeli commandos were in danger after they were attacked with “severe physical violence, including live fire, weapons, knives and clubs.”

CNN, of course, did not bother to mention reports that Israeli troops came on board shooting. “Film footage from the vessel showed armed Israeli soldiers boarding the ship and helicopters flying overhead. Israelis shot indiscriminately into groups of sleeping civilians,” reports Pravda.

Videos of Israeli commandos shooting dangerous peace activists:

Someone tell me how to embed the youtube vids please...

[Dok]

Cynthia McKinney condemns Israeli massacre of activists
http://www.greenpartywatch.org/2010/05/31/cynthia-mckinney-condemns-israeli-massacre-of-activists/

@Dok and anyone else i offended with my "i piss on your holy wall" baby momma drama, i'm sorry and take it back i was angry at the idf troll who wanted to blow shit up.

McKinney 

[Dok]

http://www.ianwelsh.net/holy-sweet-lord-turkey-has-announced-they-will-send-another-flotilla-to-gaza—escorted-by-the-turkish-navy/

Holy Sweet Lord, Turkey has announced they will send another flotilla to Gaza—escorted by the Turkish Navy!
2010 MAY 31
by Ian Welsh
If they actually do this, it is the very definition of throwing down.

Wow.

Does Israel want a war with Turkey?  They can’t win it, short of using nukes, and Turkey is a NATO member, if Israel attacks NATO ships, Turkey can invoke Article V (in fact, they can invoke it already, since the ships were attacked by a non NATO power on the high seas.)  If Turkey does so, of course NATO nations will refuse, but doing so will break NATO.

This is high stakes.

Update: I might add that in the case of a war between Turkey and Israel, if Turkey is serious, unless Israel uses nukes, my money is on the Turks.  They have a huge armored corp, and the nations between Israel and Turkey aren’t going to say no if Turkey asks for access (because if they do, Turkey will just roll right through them.)  Also if Turkey and Israel goes to war, it’s at least 50/50 the Egypt jumps in as well.

Israel is really playing with fire on this one.

Update 2: See Sean-Paul’s comments on the domestic reasons of Turkey’s reaction, and what the death of the Israeli/Turkish Entente means.

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Really? If Turkey attacks, it will be with a whole massive coalition of nations. and they will still loose. And Israel wont use Nukes.

[citizenx]

O.K., that must be the propehcy channel.