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How can Rand Paul possibly win......?
« on: May 11, 2010, 02:25:15 PM »
..........when his opponent is the Secretary of State who "certifies" the election?!?!?!?!? 

I smell massive vote fraud coming this November. The powers that be are really piling on the big names and big money to keep him out. It's amazing when you think about it - they are so scared and paranoid that they can't deal with the idea of having just ONE Senator who would oppose them in the Senate. Just ONE freakin' Senator! Can we say "full spectrum dominance"?

What say you, can he win in November?
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Re: How can Rand Paul possibly win......?
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2010, 03:28:16 PM »
How can anyone possibly think that having the same person who certifies an election running in the same election is a good thing?
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Re: How can Rand Paul possibly win......?
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2010, 03:37:41 PM »
..........when his opponent is the Secretary of State who "certifies" the election?!?!?!?!? 

I smell massive vote fraud coming this November. The powers that be are really piling on the big names and big money to keep him out. It's amazing when you think about it - they are so scared and paranoid that they can't deal with the idea of having just ONE Senator who would oppose them in the Senate. Just ONE freakin' Senator! Can we say "full spectrum dominance"?

What say you, can he win in November?

Curious - you guys read this and tell me what it appears to say: http://lrc.ky.gov/KRS/117-00/015.PDF


(2) The board shall consist of the Secretary of State and six (6) members to be appointed by the Governor as provided in this subsection. The Secretary of State shall serve as the chairman of the state board and the chief election official for the Commonwealth. The members shall serve for a term of four (4) years or until their successors are appointed. Members shall be at least twenty-five (25) years of age and qualified voters of this state. No appointed member shall be a candidate for public office, have been a candidate for public office for two (2) years prior to his appointment, or have been convicted of any election law offense.


Am I missing something or is his running illegal?

I got that link right off his page too: http://www.sos.ky.gov/secdesk/duties.htm
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Re: How can Rand Paul possibly win......?
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2010, 03:40:36 PM »
Curious - you guys read this and tell me what it appears to say: http://lrc.ky.gov/KRS/117-00/015.PDF


(2) The board shall consist of the Secretary of State and six (6) members to be appointed by the Governor as provided in this subsection. The Secretary of State shall serve as the chairman of the state board and the chief election official for the Commonwealth. The members shall serve for a term of four (4) years or until their successors are appointed. Members shall be at least twenty-five (25) years of age and qualified voters of this state. No appointed member shall be a candidate for public office, have been a candidate for public office for two (2) years prior to his appointment, or have been convicted of any election law offense.


Am I missing something or is his running illegal?

I got that link right off his page too: http://www.sos.ky.gov/secdesk/duties.htm

Sure sounds illegal to me, but when has that ever stopped the scumbags from doing what they want to do?
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Re: How can Rand Paul possibly win......?
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2010, 03:41:20 PM »
Sure sounds illegal to me, but when has that ever stopped the scumbags from doing what they want to do?

Perhaps when I email his opponent that info? :)
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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2010, 03:47:26 PM »
Perhaps when I email his opponent that info? :)

it'll just end up in the "recycle bin"

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« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2010, 03:51:20 PM »
it'll just end up in the "recycle bin"

Maybe - maybe not.

http://www.randpaul2010.com/
Perhaps if enough of us send that message to his campaign office, they'll notice.

It's KRC (Kentucky Revised Code) 117.015: http://lrc.ky.gov/KRS/117-00/015.PDF
"No appointed member shall be a candidate for public office" - that seems pretty dang clear to me.
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« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2010, 04:01:39 PM »
Never mind - he's elected.

"The Secretary of State, an elected constitutional officer, serves as the Chief Election Official of the Commonwealth.  The Secretary of State is the filing official for all candidates seeking an office to be voted for by the electors of more than one (1) county, members of Congress, members of the General Assembly and for all candidates seeking an office of the Court of Justice."

But that's a horrible conflict of interest, indeed.
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« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2010, 04:02:36 PM »
HE HAS ALREADY BEEN INVOLVED IN SCANDAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



"Grayson's first term was marked by a controversy involving Grayson's purging of approximately 8,000 Kentucky voters from the registry of voters. Grayson and his office were defendants in a lawsuit filed by the Kentucky attorney general's office which was resolved when a state judge ruled that Grayson's actions were illegal and ordered Grayson to restore the voters to the registry. Grayson later admitted to National Public Radio that he had made a mistake in purging the voters."







Inhabitants of Kentucky - flush this turd already!!!!!!





The primary is in just 7 days! This is it folks, I'm telling you, the Establishment has thrown BIG names and BIG money at this piece of sh*t. I don't care how far ahead Rand is in the polls, anything can happen. Keep your fingers crossed!
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Re: How can Rand Paul possibly win......?
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2010, 04:17:22 PM »
if rand paul does not win, then 5 million more people will wake up.

heads they lose, tails we win
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Re: How can Rand Paul possibly win......?
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2010, 04:29:03 PM »
if rand paul does not win, then 5 million more people will wake up.

heads they lose, tails we win

I live in KY - for every Grayson sign, I see 10 Rand Paul signs.
Not even being partisan, just honest. At least in my area.

Even the people half asleep can't help but to notice the corruption of career politicians.
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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2010, 04:36:20 PM »
I live in KY - for every Grayson sign, I see 10 Rand Paul signs.
Not even being partisan, just honest. At least in my area.

Even the people half asleep can't help but to notice the corruption of career politicians.

This is encouraging news. Let's hope for the best.
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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2010, 04:41:13 PM »
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« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2010, 04:49:00 PM »
Grayson is a scumbag and you didn't need for me to tell you that. I live in MN and have donated money to RP, just like I did with his father. I hope that Rand is smart just like his father and will totally have his eyes wide open for a cheating crook like Grayson and what he can potentially do with the votes.

The dude sounds like crook. He looks like a crook. If I even stand next to the guy, I'm sure I know what he will smell like.

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Re: How can Rand Paul possibly win......?
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2010, 05:59:20 PM »
Rand is leading in the polls so any tampering with ballots giving Grayson a win would undoubtedly cause a huge outcry amoung Paul's supporters. I think it might just be too dangerous and obvious to attempt to steal this one.
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Re: How can Rand Paul possibly win......?
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2010, 06:17:03 PM »
How can anyone possibly think that having the same person who certifies an election running in the same election is a good thing?

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« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2010, 06:25:02 PM »


  RAND PAUL will win because by October, most everybody in Kentucky will know that his dad (Ron Paul) is right and the worst thing that Kentucky can have is a do nothing politician as their senator.
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« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2010, 10:27:59 PM »
They need a Statesmen - not a politician.
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« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2010, 10:43:51 PM »
Maybe - maybe not.

http://www.randpaul2010.com/
Perhaps if enough of us send that message to his campaign office, they'll notice.

It's KRC (Kentucky Revised Code) 117.015: http://lrc.ky.gov/KRS/117-00/015.PDF
"No appointed member shall be a candidate for public office" - that seems pretty dang clear to me.


Having a chief election officer that apparently cannot read appears to be the least of the problems facing Kentuckians...

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« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2010, 10:50:49 PM »
Curious - you guys read this and tell me what it appears to say: http://lrc.ky.gov/KRS/117-00/015.PDF

(2) The board shall consist of the Secretary of State and six (6) members to be appointed by the Governor as provided in this subsection. The Secretary of State shall serve as the chairman of the state board and the chief election official for the Commonwealth. The members shall serve for a term of four (4) years or until their successors are appointed. Members shall be at least twenty-five (25) years of age and qualified voters of this state. No appointed member shall be a candidate for public office[/b], have been a candidate for public office for two (2) years prior to his appointment, or have been convicted of any election law offense.



The Secretary of State KY is an ELECTED office. Part of his job is to Chair the Elections Commission. If you read the first line closely (which I had to look at several times to figure this out) the 6 members are the appointed ones by the Gov. So that only applies to those 6 appointed members.

That's how I read it, after reading it at least 6 times. It is confusing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_of_State_of_Kentucky


However, if he is himself a candidate for an office he should recuse himself, IMO, from running the election! That to me should be common sense and the ethical thing for Trey buddy to do. If he can't even be honest in this area, how could you trust him to be your Senator? 
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« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2010, 11:47:05 PM »
They need a Statesmen - not a politician.

and... apply the spirit of the law - not the letter.  ;)
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« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2010, 11:54:22 PM »
They need a Statesmen - not a politician.

Totally concur!!!

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« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2010, 12:05:43 AM »
Maybe we should all run for office at the same time, as locally as possible. I sure as hell don't want to do it, but maybe if we ALL gave it up - just this once - we could infiltrate every city council on the planet with freedom lovers. We could even boo the NWO-loving nutjobs in meetings and stuff.
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« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2010, 10:51:32 AM »

The Secretary of State KY is an ELECTED office. Part of his job is to Chair the Elections Commission. If you read the first line closely (which I had to look at several times to figure this out) the 6 members are the appointed ones by the Gov. So that only applies to those 6 appointed members.

That's how I read it, after reading it at least 6 times. It is confusing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_of_State_of_Kentucky


However, if he is himself a candidate for an office he should recuse himself, IMO, from running the election! That to me should be common sense and the ethical thing for Trey buddy to do. If he can't even be honest in this area, how could you trust him to be your Senator? 
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Yeah, I corrected that above - or well intended to.. lol

But yes, he should recuse himself if he wishes to display 'ethics'.
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« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2010, 10:53:19 AM »
The purpose of voting is not to try and guess the winner.

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Re: How can Rand Paul possibly win......?
« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2010, 03:02:58 PM »
Check it out.


Poll: Paul tops Grayson; Dems duel

"The Republican race is virtually unchanged from earlier Bluegrass Polls, which also had Paul with a 15-point lead. The latest poll found Paul, who has never previously run for public office, leading Secretary of State Trey Grayson by 16 percentage points."
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« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2010, 07:00:15 PM »
Check it out.


Poll: Paul tops Grayson; Dems duel

"The Republican race is virtually unchanged from earlier Bluegrass Polls, which also had Paul with a 15-point lead. The latest poll found Paul, who has never previously run for public office, leading Secretary of State Trey Grayson by 16 percentage points."

With the primary a mere 5 days away, I think it's way too obvious for them to try to pull any stunts. Looks like Rand is going to win Round 1..........now the Pentagon-run media can use the next 6 months as a demonization campaign. They really don't want even 1 out of 100 to be a decent person in their exclusive "Crook Club" that we know as the U.S. Senate.

Who's the Democommunist challenger going to be?

  
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« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2010, 07:36:30 PM »
With the primary a mere 5 days away, I think it's way too obvious for them to try to pull any stunts. Looks like Rand is going to win Round 1..........now the Pentagon-run media can use the next 6 months as a demonization campaign. They really don't want even 1 out of 100 to be a decent person in their exclusive "Crook Club" that we know as the U.S. Senate.

Who's the Democommunist challenger going to be?

  

The poll found that Lt. Gov. Daniel Mongiardo leads Attorney General Jack Conway by just 1 percentage point, foreshadowing an intense campaign in the last week before Tuesday’s election.

Dunno.

But yeah, they hate "scrubs" in their exclusive club, lol
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« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2010, 08:02:03 PM »
The poll found that Lt. Gov. Daniel Mongiardo leads Attorney General Jack Conway by just 1 percentage point, foreshadowing an intense campaign in the last week before Tuesday’s election.

Dunno.

But yeah, they hate "scrubs" in their exclusive club, lol

It's amazing to think that 3 out of the 4 candidates running in the primary are sitting incumbent government leeches. I love my Plutocracy, don't you? 
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« Reply #29 on: May 14, 2010, 12:06:50 PM »
It's amazing to think that 3 out of the 4 candidates running in the primary are sitting incumbent government leeches. I love my Plutocracy, don't you? 

Yeah, like I love maggots.
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« Reply #30 on: May 14, 2010, 12:13:07 PM »
Yeah, like I love maggots.

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« Reply #31 on: May 14, 2010, 01:11:56 PM »
Hey, now, let's not go insulting maggots!

hehe, good point - they do have a legitimate use.
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« Reply #32 on: May 14, 2010, 01:22:30 PM »
hehe, good point - they do have a legitimate use.

Yes they do!



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