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Re: Why the Republican-hijacked "Tea Party" movement has become a pathetic joke!
« Reply #40 on: September 21, 2010, 12:32:09 PM »
Many of us vote third party even though our friends and family say we wasted that same vote because that candidate couldn't possibly win.

The people who mindlessly parrot the "wasted vote" mantra are the very ones destroying this nation with their "lesser-of-two-evils" voting:

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Re: Why the Republican-hijacked "Tea Party" movement has become a pathetic joke!
« Reply #41 on: September 21, 2010, 01:07:44 PM »
The people who mindlessly parrot the "wasted vote" mantra are the very ones destroying this nation with their "lesser-of-two-evils" voting:

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In my State (AZ) we have a Senate Race of McCain VS Glassman.

Either establishment wh*re is a "waste of Vote" so I have NO CHOICE but to vote for the Libertarian third party candidate.

I support David Nolan.  i tell all AZ voters that Glassman is a "waste of vote" and mcCain is obviously a "waste of vote", So give your vote to the third party, regardless if they win or not.

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Re: Why the Republican-hijacked "Tea Party" movement has become a pathetic joke!
« Reply #42 on: September 21, 2010, 05:35:54 PM »
As long as Sara Palin is involved forget it. A whole bunch political activism a whole lot too late. Let's not wait for a black president next time ....eh? That way you won't make the "truth" movement look like a bunch of hillbilly racists.
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Re: Why the Republican-hijacked "Tea Party" movement has become a pathetic joke!
« Reply #43 on: September 21, 2010, 08:55:03 PM »
They seen a movement that was gaining steam.

The applied the 10,000 year old strategy of 'divide and conquer'. Now half the tea party are nothing but GOP sheep.
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Hi free. We watched as the tea party was infiltrated, yes, depressing at minimum.
           To add yet another bit of bad news, this gal made a statement about the war, she stated:
It’s called victory. Past mistakes should not deter our need to stabilize Iraq so we can get our troops home. We can succeed in the future, but we must accompany our efforts with the honor and respect we’ve earned as a people. We cannot leave on the enemy’s terms. We must leave on our terms.”
       My take is that is  pro war, and my bottom line is simple, if a politician is for the war it goes to follow they are NWO suklings.

I agree. NWO written all over that.

She also says regarding security:

"Believes terrorism is an act of war requiring the full force of our intelligence and military resources rather than granting terrorists precious Constitutional rights and outsourcing our foreign policy to the U.N."

Pro DHS. Pro CIA. Call a person a terrorist they get no Constitutional rights? Or did I read that wrong?

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Re: Why the Republican-hijacked "Tea Party" movement has become a pathetic joke!
« Reply #45 on: September 22, 2010, 09:39:01 AM »
The people who mindlessly parrot the "wasted vote" mantra are the very ones destroying this nation with their "lesser-of-two-evils" voting:
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Hi Geo... In regards to the lesser of two evils voting, pray tell, what would you suggest as a solution?
             Without any doubt whatsoever your point  has been established.
             We are aware the NWO and its minions are devoted to the collapse of this nation, it is evident with their attack within the tea party for one example.
             I have to say, on a postive note, this is the first time in many years I have seen the regime take notice of the citizenry. The exposure of the Americans distrust, it is in their faces that the people are Pizzed, & the world to is paying attention.   In all sincerity I ask you what would be a alternative? I also believe that members on this site were well aware the NWO suklings would be dedicated in their quest infiltrate the movement.

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Re: Why the Republican-hijacked "Tea Party" movement has become a pathetic joke!
« Reply #46 on: September 22, 2010, 09:59:40 AM »
RP in 2012.  If he's not on the ballot, I'm either going to write him in or burn my ballot.

I haven't quite decided.

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Re: Why the Republican-hijacked "Tea Party" movement has become a pathetic joke!
« Reply #47 on: September 22, 2010, 10:31:46 AM »
no such thing as a wasted vote

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Re: Why the Republican-hijacked "Tea Party" movement has become a pathetic joke!
« Reply #48 on: September 22, 2010, 01:09:17 PM »
Hi Geo... In regards to the lesser of two evils voting, pray tell, what would you suggest as a solution?

You must have missed it, because when it comes to the issue of voting, I addressed that very question earlier in this thread:

To all you "conservatives" and right-leaning "libertarians" out there: with the arguable exception of Rand Paul, either vote for your 3rd party or independent candidate of choice this November, or don't vote at all!

(The same, of course, goes for anti-war/anti-police state "liberals" and "progressives.")

The first step to getting what you want is to stop voting for more of what you don't want (which is all "lesser evil voters" ever do).

But that alone isn't enough.

If you're truly interested in "solutions," then simply re-read the following:

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Re: Why the Republican-hijacked "Tea Party" movement has become a pathetic joke!
« Reply #49 on: September 22, 2010, 01:18:29 PM »
no such thing as a wasted vote

Nonsense. If you passionately oppose policies A, B and C and strongly support policy reforms X, Y and Z, yet vote for a candidate who supports policies A, B and C and opposes policy reforms X, Y and Z (all because he waved a diversionary wedge issue like gay marriage or politically-incorrect religious buildings at you), then -- in terms of having your views represented, which is supposedly the whole point of voting to begin with -- you have indeed "wasted" your vote.

Not only that, by voting for the very things you complain about most, you have made yourself part of the very problem you profess to oppose.

If you vote for more of what you don't want, then what rightful business do you even have to complain when you wind up getting what you voted for?

It absolutely amazes me that so many people who are smart enough to know better have to have all this explained to them in the first place.
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Re: Why the Republican-hijacked "Tea Party" movement has become a pathetic joke!
« Reply #50 on: September 22, 2010, 03:39:05 PM »
no such thing as a wasted vote

True, but not voting is also not wasting your opinion on what is right for The Country.
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Re: Why the Republican-hijacked "Tea Party" movement has become a pathetic joke!
« Reply #51 on: September 22, 2010, 03:46:19 PM »
Yep, I could totally see The Conservatives trying and "hijack The Tea-Party", there are a lot of Libertarians in The Tea-Party, and while some of them may have Conservative Ideas, they aren't Conservatives, and just because The Conservatives want to wedge themselves in to The Tea-Party, The Communist Progressive Liberals see this, and call "The Tea-Party all racist", that pisses off True Libertarians the most.

Also, The Tea-Party started with Libertarians, Conservatives, and Liberals pissed off with what was going on in The Country with The Bush Administration in 2004, they forget how many Liberals are in The Tea-Party. That pisses The Liberals off in The Tea-Party when The Communist Progressive Liberal call "The Tea-Party Racist".

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Re: Why the Republican-hijacked "Tea Party" movement has become a pathetic joke!
« Reply #52 on: September 23, 2010, 08:29:13 AM »
Nonsense. If you passionately oppose policies A, B and C and strongly support policy reforms X, Y and Z, yet vote for a candidate who supports policies A, B and C and opposes policy reforms X, Y and Z (all because he waved a diversionary wedge issue like gay marriage or politically-incorrect religious buildings at you), then -- in terms of having your views represented, which is supposedly the whole point of voting to begin with -- you have indeed "wasted" your vote.

Not only that, by voting for the very things you complain about most, you have made yourself part of the very problem you profess to oppose.

If you vote for more of what you don't want, then what rightful business do you even have to complain when you wind up getting what you voted for?

It absolutely amazes me that so many people who are smart enough to know better have to have all this explained to them in the first place.
Republican candidates are making shaky claims at best of their support for policy reforms X, Y and Z and seem to favor some real Nazi crap policies A, B and C when they get into the positions of power.
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Re: Why the Republican-hijacked "Tea Party" movement has become a pathetic joke!
« Reply #53 on: September 23, 2010, 11:14:47 AM »
You must have missed it, because when it comes to the issue of voting, I addressed that very question earlier in this thread:
Geo, I didn't miss it, idealogicaly these options mentioned are winners. OK, being realistic that would infer that the people have a voice? Do you beleive the voice of the people is heard, that a representaive democracy exists?
Geo, how many years have we been on this site, never have I disgreed with you posts, your a sharp guy and dedicated, this time I do have a different take.  Regardless of the fact you or others may consider me cynical or radical, I sincerely beleive these party lines are on the same channel despite the rhetoric, that a segment of our elected officials and agencys are infected, plainly put the traitors are on the inside and they are backed by the the richest and most powerfull elitists on this earth who also command super corporations inner workings. Geo, the people are pushing back, for me that alone is an indication a wake up call is taking place, in this big picture I beleive it to be evident despite the facts you have mentioned.

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Re: Why the Republican-hijacked "Tea Party" movement has become a pathetic joke!
« Reply #54 on: September 23, 2010, 06:34:39 PM »
They really need to rename it too... to 'The Former Grand ol' Party'.

We should refer to them as such - the FGOP.
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Re: Why the Republican-hijacked "Tea Party" movement has become a pathetic joke!
« Reply #55 on: September 23, 2010, 07:05:15 PM »
PFKAR?

Party Formerly Known as "republican"?

If things are rigged so RP can't win the nomination, I'm outta there.

These attacks on the chairman seem like just that, too.  He's been doing a good job of trying to keep things fair IMO.

I won't give up on it yet though I'll wait for the Presidential primaries.

Go, Ron, go.

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Re: Why the Republican-hijacked "Tea Party" movement has become a pathetic joke!
« Reply #56 on: September 24, 2010, 10:43:10 AM »
PFKAR?

Party Formerly Known as "republican"?

If things are rigged so RP can't win the nomination, I'm outta there.

These attacks on the chairman seem like just that, too.  He's been doing a good job of trying to keep things fair IMO.

I won't give up on it yet though I'll wait for the Presidential primaries.

Go, Ron, go.
Republicans are just continuing to follow their normal socialistic shuck and jive traits. Nothing new under the sun. Republicans burnt down half the country in supposed opposition to private slavery at their birth however I do not see any of them speaking out about China state run slavery as American jobs are outsourced, aside from RP who has reported that various republican leadership has actually taken up some sort of strange Trotsky plan. The republicans never did have the early American type of unalienable individual rights plan-party platform that has been put together by the constitution party.

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Sarah Palin: The Next Teleprompter Reader in the White House?
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Sarah Palin: The Next Teleprompter Reader in the White House?

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It looks like the establishment is grooming Tea Party Sarah for a run. She says as much in the Newsmax interview below.

I know. Most people think she does not have a snowball’s chance in Hades of making it to the Oval Office. But then who’d ever thunk George W. Bush would warm a seat there for eight long years?

Sarah Palin’s media ascent is a highly orchestrated affair. Her placement as the titular head of the hijacked Tea Party was accomplished by establishment operatives. There was nothing grassroots about it. She’s a Judas goat leading the faithful down the primrose path to world government and forever war. It is truly amazing more folks do not see this. It reminds me of that famous quip by Wilhelm Reich who said the people can always be counted on to worship the worst sort of tyrants and dictators. They adore their Hitlers and Stalins.

Of course, not all people in the Tea Party support Palin. But come November 2012 they may vote for her anyway. The elite can always count on the lesser of two evils shell game. Palin comes off as less “socialist” than Barry Obama. Her script has all the right patriot cues. It does not matter that she is a neocon. Socialism, tax cuts, big government. Sarah was carefully trained. She knows the catch phrases and talking points.

In the video, Palin tells us what to look forward to in the unlikely event she is selected to pretend she speaks for the American people. The possibility of mass murder in Iran is still “on the table.” Her neocon handlers have provided Sarah with the right talking points.

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The upside to the tea party... a loose infrastructure is in place.

The downside... acceptance of the NeoCon agenda by the mainstream.

The Truth movement is not working hard enough to expose the NeoCon agenda.

But...


Once the republicans take power in the house & maybe the senate it may become easier to expose the NeoCon agenda, though is will take a very vocal minority to expose when they push globalist policies.


I target "conservatives" to wake up. One of the ways I do it, I show how globalism is ultimate big government & therefore NOT conservative.

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Once the republicans take power in the house & maybe the senate it may become easier to expose the NeoCon agenda,

News flash: the "neocon agenda" was exposed years ago when the Republicans controlled the White House and both houses of Congress. That was precisely how Obama got elected in the first place: his public relations experts, knowing that most people were fed up with the neocons, portrayed him to the masses as an anti-neocon candidate.

It is therefore the height of absurdity to suggest or imply that conservatives and right-leaning libertarians should resort yet again to "lesser evil voting" in the name of discrediting an already-discredited agenda.
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News flash: the "neocon agenda" was exposed years ago when the Republicans controlled the White House and both houses of Congress. That was precisely how Obama got elected in the first place: his public relations experts, knowing that most people were fed up with the neocons, portrayed him to the masses as an anti-neocon candidate.

It is therefore the height of absurdity to suggest or imply that conservatives and right-leaning libertarians should resort yet again to "lesser evil voting" in the name of discrediting an already-discredited agenda.


I'm not promoting "lesser evil voting". How'd you draw that conclusion?

I'm stating political reality in regards to the tea party movement. Since we are all pretty much in agreement that the tea party movement has been hijacked by the establishment (neocons). We also know they will be voting in neocon sympathetic candidates.

As far as those of us who are aware.. already understood the dangers of the neocons, unfortunately the majority of the average salt of the earth voters do not. Exposing something is more than just understanding the facts. It is communicating the facts in a way the majority understand it.

Do we really have to restate the obvious amongst ourselves?

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Lest we forget, "neocons" were firmly in charge of foreign policy during at least the first part of the last Republican administration, and arguably in charge of large swaths of domestic policy as well.

Arguably, their policies are still in place and being carried out under Obama and were still being carried out under Bush's second term when they were supposedly "out of power".

It is certainly a "gray area" at least.

A return to a Republican congress is hardly a guarantee that the neocons won't simply have more power and influence again -- and that may well be an understatement.

That having been said, I do still look forward to at least divided government as a small blessing at this point -- a respite.

We could, of course, do even better as Geolibertarian suggests.

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It's not the original Tea Party, no, but -- whether we like it or not -- it is now the current Tea Party as far as the vast majority of both FOX-watching "conservatives" and MSNBC-watching "liberals" are concerned.

We could complain all day long about how the original Tea Party was non-partisan, yet our efforts would prove no less futile than trying to convince the masses that the commonly-accepted definition of the word "liberal" was once quite different from what it is today.

So rather than get into a semantical turf war over what this or that political label means, I prefer to say -- "What public policy positions does the label in question currently represent in the minds of most people?" -- and to then critique those positions accordingly.


If I'm having a discussion about the Tea Party and I ask if that person, no matter which side of the political fence they're on, knows where the party originated from and most will say Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin, I tell them it came from Ron Paul and the anti-war movement, to go read Ron Paul's book, Revolution A Manifesto and then come back and we can have an intelligent conversation, discussion or debate.
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Tea Party ‘founder’: Palin, Gingrich a ‘joke’
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Tea Party ‘founder’: Palin, Gingrich a ‘joke’

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Oct 21, 2010

A financial blogger and ex-CEO credited with being one of the original “founders” of the Tea Party has come out against the movement, saying it has been hijacked by the very people it was protesting and is now obsessed with “guns, gays and God.”

In a “message” to the Tea Party Wednesday, Karl Denninger declared that he “ought to sue” anyone who uses the Tea Party name “for defamation.”

“Yeah, that’s a joke,” he writes. “But so are you. All of you. Especially Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Bob Barr, and douchebag groups such as the ‘Tea Party Patriots.’”

Denninger writes: “Tea Party my ass. This was nothing other than the Republican Party stealing the anger of a population that was fed up with the Republican Party’s own theft of their tax money at gunpoint to bail out the robbers of Wall Street and fraudulently redirecting it back toward electing the very people who stole all the ****ing money!”

Denninger runs Market Ticker, a financially-focused blog that has been strongly opposed to bank bailouts and has railed against excessive government spending. He founded the group FedUpUSA in early 2008, shortly after the collapse of investment bank Bear Stearns.

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I agree with everything being said here, but the arguement I get is If I vote for X candidate and you vote for Y candidate your vote is literally nullifying my vote.

The total votes don't really matter... only the number of votes greater than that of the other candidates matter. If you vote for a 3rd party long shot, (candidate A) who agrees with you 95% of the time as appose to candidate B, who agrees with you 65% of the time but has a better shot of wining, than you technically voted NOT to nullify one of candidate C's votes, which essentially is you voting for candidate C.

 See all of the 3rd party candidates votes are going to be nullified. They wont count. You voting for A and not B didn't take a vote from C. Instead you took a vote from B and wasted your vote for A cause candidate A even knew he wasn't going to win.

All this said..... this applies only in a general race.... In a primary you should support that with whom you agree with most. if he/she doesn't win then you have to take steps to better get your points across to why your candidate is the best to represent you.... the general election isn't the forum to support the little known, hardly backed 3rd party long shot.

How would 3rd party candidates votes be nullified?

I guess my question is should a third party candidate be backed in a primary?
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From The Washington Post Rag:


A Tea Party of populist posers


By Dana Milbank
Wednesday, October 20, 2010
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/19/AR2010101906085.html

On the morning of Oct. 14, a cyber-insurgency caused servers to crash at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

The culprits, however, weren't attacking the chamber; they were well-meaning citizens who overwhelmed the big-business lobbying group with a sudden wave of online contributions. It was one of the more extraordinary events in the annals of American populism: the common man voluntarily giving money to make the rich richer.

These donors to the cause of the Fortune 500 were motivated by a radio appeal from the de facto leader of the Tea Party movement, Glenn Beck, who told them: "Put your money where your mouth is. If you have a dollar, please go to . . . the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and donate today." Chamber members, he said, "are our parents. They're our grandparents. They are us."

They are? Listed as members of the chamber's board are representatives from Pfizer, ConocoPhillips, Lockheed Martin, JPMorgan Chase, Dow Chemical, Ken Starr's old law and lobbying firm, and Rolls-Royce North America. Nothing says grass-roots insurgency quite like Rolls-Royce -- and nothing says populist revolt quite like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. In describing the big-business group as "us," Beck (annual revenue: $32 million) provided an unintended moment of clarity into the power behind the Tea Party movement. These aren't peasants with pitchforks; these are plutocrats with payrolls.

There is genuine populist anger out there. But the angry have been deceived and exploited by posers who belong to the same class of "elites" and "insiders" that the Tea Party movement supposedly deplores. Americans who want to stick it to the man are instead sending money to the man.

Consider the candidates on the ballot next month who are getting Tea Party support. In the Connecticut Senate race, there's Linda McMahon, who with her husband has a billion-dollar pro-wrestling empire. The challenger to Democratic Sen. Russ Feingold in Wisconsin, Ron Johnson, is a millionaire manufacturing executive. The former head of Gateway computers, Rick Snyder, is spending generously from his fortune to win the Michigan governor's race.

In New York, the Republican gubernatorial candidate is developer Carl Paladino, with a net worth put at $150 million. And Rick Scott, running for governor in Florida, has a net worth of $219 million from his career as a health-care executive. Then there's California, where the Republican Senate nominee is former Hewlett-Packard chief executive Carly Fiorina and the gubernatorial candidate is former e-Bay boss Meg Whitman.

Democrats have their phony populists, too. Billionaire Jeff Greene, who cashed in on subprime mortgages, made an unsuccessful attempt at the U.S. Senate nomination in Florida. But more often this year, it's the Democrats who are defending themselves against the "elite" allegation.

"The elite's fear and loathing of the tea party movement is rooted in the recognition that the real change is only now coming," writes Tony Blankley, the conservative commentator who exempts himself from the elite label even though he worked for the speaker of the House and now toils for a prominent PR firm. The Tea Party, he wrote, will "constrain the elite's economic and cultural hegemony."

Oh? Who will do this constraining of the elite's hegemony? Why, people such as the Tea Party's Senate candidate from Alaska, Joe Miller (Yale Law School); and from Kentucky, Rand Paul (Duke Medical School), and from Colorado, Ken Buck (Princeton University).

And who will be helping these anti-elite elites get into office? Well, there's FreedomWorks, a Tea Party outfit run by Dick Armey, the former Republican lawmaker whose last job was with a big lobbying firm. His deputy at FreedomWorks is Matt Kibbe, who worked for none other than the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

There's also the Tea Party Express, the creation of longtime Republican consultant Sal Russo. A colleague at Russo's consulting firm pitched the Tea Party Express idea as a way to boost the company's bottom line. According to an internal e-mail intercepted by the New York Times, it came from a "desire to give a boost to our PAC and position us as a growing force/leading force."

The guy who put together the Tea Party "Contract From America" previously worked on Rudy Giuliani's presidential campaign. Another Tea Party group, Americans for Prosperity, has been lavishly funded by the billionaire Koch brothers.

A movement of the plutocrats, by the political professionals and for the powerful: Now that's something Tea Partyers should be mad about.
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From The Washington Post Rag:


A Tea Party of populist posers


By Dana Milbank
Wednesday, October 20, 2010
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/19/AR2010101906085.html

On the morning of Oct. 14, a cyber-insurgency caused servers to crash at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

The culprits, however, weren't attacking the chamber; they were well-meaning citizens who overwhelmed the big-business lobbying group with a sudden wave of online contributions. It was one of the more extraordinary events in the annals of American populism: the common man voluntarily giving money to make the rich richer.

These donors to the cause of the Fortune 500 were motivated by a radio appeal from the de facto leader of the Tea Party movement, Glenn Beck, who told them: "Put your money where your mouth is. If you have a dollar, please go to . . . the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and donate today." Chamber members, he said, "are our parents. They're our grandparents. They are us."

They are? Listed as members of the chamber's board are representatives from Pfizer, ConocoPhillips, Lockheed Martin, JPMorgan Chase, Dow Chemical, Ken Starr's old law and lobbying firm, and Rolls-Royce North America. Nothing says grass-roots insurgency quite like Rolls-Royce -- and nothing says populist revolt quite like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. In describing the big-business group as "us," Beck (annual revenue: $32 million) provided an unintended moment of clarity into the power behind the Tea Party movement. These aren't peasants with pitchforks; these are plutocrats with payrolls.

There is genuine populist anger out there. But the angry have been deceived and exploited by posers who belong to the same class of "elites" and "insiders" that the Tea Party movement supposedly deplores. Americans who want to stick it to the man are instead sending money to the man.

Consider the candidates on the ballot next month who are getting Tea Party support. In the Connecticut Senate race, there's Linda McMahon, who with her husband has a billion-dollar pro-wrestling empire. The challenger to Democratic Sen. Russ Feingold in Wisconsin, Ron Johnson, is a millionaire manufacturing executive. The former head of Gateway computers, Rick Snyder, is spending generously from his fortune to win the Michigan governor's race.

In New York, the Republican gubernatorial candidate is developer Carl Paladino, with a net worth put at $150 million. And Rick Scott, running for governor in Florida, has a net worth of $219 million from his career as a health-care executive. Then there's California, where the Republican Senate nominee is former Hewlett-Packard chief executive Carly Fiorina and the gubernatorial candidate is former e-Bay boss Meg Whitman.

Democrats have their phony populists, too. Billionaire Jeff Greene, who cashed in on subprime mortgages, made an unsuccessful attempt at the U.S. Senate nomination in Florida. But more often this year, it's the Democrats who are defending themselves against the "elite" allegation.

"The elite's fear and loathing of the tea party movement is rooted in the recognition that the real change is only now coming," writes Tony Blankley, the conservative commentator who exempts himself from the elite label even though he worked for the speaker of the House and now toils for a prominent PR firm. The Tea Party, he wrote, will "constrain the elite's economic and cultural hegemony."

Oh? Who will do this constraining of the elite's hegemony? Why, people such as the Tea Party's Senate candidate from Alaska, Joe Miller (Yale Law School); and from Kentucky, Rand Paul (Duke Medical School), and from Colorado, Ken Buck (Princeton University).

And who will be helping these anti-elite elites get into office? Well, there's FreedomWorks, a Tea Party outfit run by Dick Armey, the former Republican lawmaker whose last job was with a big lobbying firm. His deputy at FreedomWorks is Matt Kibbe, who worked for none other than the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

There's also the Tea Party Express, the creation of longtime Republican consultant Sal Russo. A colleague at Russo's consulting firm pitched the Tea Party Express idea as a way to boost the company's bottom line. According to an internal e-mail intercepted by the New York Times, it came from a "desire to give a boost to our PAC and position us as a growing force/leading force."

The guy who put together the Tea Party "Contract From America" previously worked on Rudy Giuliani's presidential campaign. Another Tea Party group, Americans for Prosperity, has been lavishly funded by the billionaire Koch brothers.

A movement of the plutocrats, by the political professionals and for the powerful: Now that's something Tea Partyers should be mad about.

Wow great article! nice find!
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I had a lot of hope for the Tea Party when they first started getting rolling.  I think that they're no better than the other 2 groups of d-bags in the R and D party now.

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Look what Newt Gingrich is doing: (If anyone suckers into voting for this guy, they are nuts. He is CFR lapdog Globalist)   ::)
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304354104575568730326784138.html?mod=WSJ_hp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsSecond

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The tea-party phenomenon is forcing possible Republican presidential candidates in 2012 to make early and potentially high-risk strategic gambles over how to harness the movement.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich is traveling the country to build alliances with local tea-party activists in key presidential primary and caucus states.
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I agree with everything being said here, but the arguement I get is If I vote for X candidate and you vote for Y candidate your vote is literally nullifying my vote.

The total votes don't really matter... only the number of votes greater than that of the other candidates matter. If you vote for a 3rd party long shot, (candidate A) who agrees with you 95% of the time as appose to candidate B, who agrees with you 65% of the time but has a better shot of wining, than you technically voted NOT to nullify one of candidate C's votes, which essentially is you voting for candidate C.

 See all of the 3rd party candidates votes are going to be nullified. They wont count. You voting for A and not B didn't take a vote from C. Instead you took a vote from B and wasted your vote for A cause candidate A even knew he wasn't going to win.

All this said..... this applies only in a general race.... In a primary you should support that with whom you agree with most. if he/she doesn't win then you have to take steps to better get your points across to why your candidate is the best to represent you.... the general election isn't the forum to support the little known, hardly backed 3rd party long shot.

How would 3rd party candidates votes be nullified?

I guess my question is should a third party candidate be backed in a primary?

Ever heard of proportional representation? That would help fix the problem of "wasted votes".

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Is the tea party the modern conservative movement? Or something new altogether?

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Is the tea party the modern conservative movement? Or something new altogether?

It's the pro-war/pro-police state/pro-debt money Republican Party ostensibly wrapped in the flag of "liberty."

It didn't start out that way, but that's what it's turned into.
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The Globalists are going to keep up with these wolf-in-sheep's clothing camdidates... HOPE & CHANGE/TEA PARTIERS etc. until Americans get tired of being battered constituents and start voting in 3rd party candidates.

Don't tell me it can't be done cuz there have been a record amount of Libertarian candidates who got elected for local positions all across the country in 2008.

PLUS:


CP candidate elected!

From the CPID:

The Constitution Party of Idaho now has one man in office in an elected position! Randy Patterson had been talking about running for mayor for about a year and was the only man who "applied" for the job. When he signed up to run, the current Mayor decided he didn't really have the time to give the job that it needed. He was also in charge of the local airport and needed to get it moved to a new location. So, he decided to quit early. The city council met and talked about one of their own members filling in until the election, but since it was uncontested, they simply decided to have Randy be the acting mayor until the election. So he will be the acting mayor until he is sworn in as mayor. Carrie, ID is a town of 1200 people in Blaine County, one of the most liberal counties in Idaho.

Great Job, Randy! We applaud you as the first member of the Party in office!

Randy hopes, while in office, to help the citizens better understand the proper role of government and the Constitution. He hopes to make sure that in his city, government funds are not being used in an improper manner.


I hate to say this but the TEA Parties are just going to have to elect their "TEA" candidate and see just how much or how little of a Globalist traitor they end up being.

Even the C4L groups are starting to distance themselves from the TEA-Baggers.

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Great thread Geo thanks for all your efforts.

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Sometimes the people dont really understand the politican

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You know folks I just don't understand why Americans love to be disappointed in politics when everything else that disappoints they don't support and it fails.

The XFL, LIKE COLA, Phone Company monopolies, the Yugo car.

Yet the Republicans and Democrats can constantly fail and yet people revote them in again and again.

Unreal  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Americans truly prove their stupidity to the rest of the world.

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Yet the Republicans and Democrats can constantly fail and yet people revote them in again and again.

Oh no, the people have no say.  Voting is rigged and the outcome is completely controlled.  Not just in America either.

Unreal  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep.

Americans truly prove their stupidity to the rest of the world.

There's a lot of stupidity out there, totalitarianism (fascism) thrives on it.  The thing that really 'gets' me is that people think that the SYSTEM will actually make a difference and that individual politicians can make a difference.  The truth is, if they are capable of making a difference they won't be ALLOWED to.  Its that simple.  How much time, money and emotional investment is WASTED on canditates that don't have a chance or on canditates who are utterly useless?  Now, THATs pretty stupid and its not going to change until people wake up to the fact that they've been had.