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« Reply #80 on: May 09, 2010, 02:49:02 PM »

Mississipi and Florida will be next.  Just look a the size of the blob, and how it has been moving.  Just a matter of time.  Four states. This is really awful.  It will be up there withe the top five environmental disasters of all time.  Now they're talking about filling the hole back up with mud and concrete (the way they were trying to seal it in the first place?  And who is doing that?)
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« Reply #81 on: May 09, 2010, 05:48:14 PM »

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/09/gulf.oil/index.html?hpt=T2



Next step to stop oil: Throw garbage at it

NEW: BP officials considering "junk shot" to try to clog blowout container with debris
Crystals accumulated inside containment dome, rendering it ineffective
Dome moved to side of wellhead while crews work to overcome the challenge, BP CEO says
Placing dome over well 5,000 feet underwater had never been tried at such a depth
Venice, Louisiana (CNN) -- If using a massive dome to cover the source of the oil gushing into the Gulf of Mexico doesn't work, crews are preparing for another option: clogging it.
Engineers are examining whether they can close a failed blowout preventer by stuffing it with trash, said Adm. Thad Allen, the commandant of the Coast Guard. The 48-foot-tall, 450-ton device sits atop the well at the heart of the Gulf oil spill and is designed to stop leaks, but it has not been working properly since the oil rig Deepwater Horizon exploded April 20 and later sank.
"The next tactic is going to be something they call a junk shot," Allen told CBS's "Face the Nation" on Sunday. "They'll take a bunch of debris -- shredded up tires, golf balls and things like that -- and under very high pressure, shoot it into the preventer itself and see if they can clog it up and stop the leak."
Oil company BP, the well's owner, had attempted to lower a four-story containment vessel over the well to cap the larger of the well's two leak points. But that plan was thwarted Saturday after ice-like hydrate crystals, formed when gas combined with water, blocked the top of the dome and made it buoyant.
BP said it has not abandoned the dome plan. But Doug Suttles, the company's chief operating officer, told reporters that officials are considering the "junk shot" along with other possible solutions.
Suttles said Saturday that trying to stuff shut the blowout preventer had not yet been attempted because of possible challenges and risks. And Allen said the approach had worked in the past, but never so deep beneath the water's surface.

"We're working at 5,000 feet of depth, which has never been done before," he said.
The dome was resting on the seabed Sunday while crews tried to find a way to deal with the crystals -- a process that could take two days, Suttles told reporters Saturday.
Officials are considering heating the dome or adding methanol to dissolve the hydrates, he said. If the hydrate problem is resolved, BP hopes to connect the dome to a drill ship and to begin sucking oil from the containment dome.
In the meantime, an estimated 210,000 gallons (5,000 barrels) of crude is pouring from the well every day. Hundreds of thousands of feet of boom and large volumes of dispersants continued to be deployed in an effort to capture or break up the spilled oil moving toward the Gulf coastline, and thousands of workers and volunteers diligently worked to skim the water's surface.
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration forecasters warned that the Mississippi Delta, Breton Sound, the Chandeleur Islands and areas directly north could see oil hit the coast by Tuesday, and significant winds could push oil west of the Mississippi Delta by Monday. And scientists are analyzing tar balls found on a beach on Dauphin Island, Alabama, to determine whether they were caused by the oil spill, and Coast Guard spokesman Erik Swanson said.
The tar balls are "pieces of emulsified oil" shaped like pancakes, ranging in size from dimes to golf balls, but can sometimes occur naturally, Swanson said.
The stakes are high for residents of coastal Louisiana who make their living by fishing in the Gulf. Oil washed ashore Thursday on Louisiana's barrier islands and drifted west past the mouth of the Mississippi River.
"It's killing everybody down here, everybody is more or less getting ulcers worrying about this, and it's something we experienced five years ago with [Hurricane] Katrina," charter-boat owner Tom Becker told CNN Saturday.
Federal investigators are still trying determining what caused the explosion that sank the Deepwater Horizon, owned by BP contractor Transocean Ltd. The explosion left 11 men presumed dead aboard the rig and caused the massive underwater gusher that the company and the federal government have been trying to cap since late April.
Suttles said Saturday that senior BP employees, including the company's vice president for drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, were on board the rig at the time of the explosion discussing its positive safety performance.
"This rig had an outstanding record," he said.
All six BP employees on board were among the 111 people who escaped from the burning rig, Suttles said.
BP is legally required to cover economic damages from the spill up to $75 million. But Florida Sen. Bill Nelson has introduced legislation that would raise the liability cap to $10 billion.
"If this gusher continues for several months, it's going to cover up the Gulf Coast and it's going to get down into the loop current and that's going to take it down the Florida Keys and up the east coast of Florida, and you are talking about massive economic loss to our tourism, our beaches, to our fisheries, very possibly disruption of our military testing and training," Nelson said Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union."
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« Reply #82 on: May 09, 2010, 05:51:28 PM »

OMG, "dispruption" of military "training".  Well that is serious.  I guess they better start cracking.

Values?  Priorities?  WTF!
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« Reply #83 on: May 16, 2010, 08:45:49 AM »

This picture and caption sums it all up!  The media is spun-up and out-of-control--granted the spill is bad, but it is not as bad as the media is making it out to be.  Look at what this is doing to the fishing industry!



Charter fisherman Chris Wilson cuts up his catch in Venice Marina, Louisiana on May 10, 2010. Louisiana's charter fishermen and tourism bosses are blaming negative US media coverage of the Gulf oil spill for doing more damage to the industry than the oil slick itself, with their livelihoods threatened because tourists are cancelling trips, despite 95 percent of the state's waters being open for fishing. A leaking BP well in the Gulf of Mexico is spewing 210,000 gallons of oil a day, threatening fragile wetlands along the coast. (Alex Ogle/AFP/Getty Images)

My husband assures me that the spill is not what the media is reporting.  He was out at ground zero and the oil is there but as soon as he was five miles from ground zero the oil is no where to be found.

Cui Bono?  Who stands to gain by making this disaster far worse than it really is? 

Here is a Flashback:

Katrina oil spills may be among worst on record
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2005/sep/16/usnews.hurricanekatrina

The oil pollution in the wake of Hurricane Katrina could be among the worst recorded in North America, officials trying to coordinate the clean-up say. The US coastguard, which is responsible for the marine environment, said yesterday more than 6.5 million gallons of crude oil had been spilt in at least seven major incidents. The previous worst spill in US waters was the 11m gallons in Alaskan waters from the Exxon Valdez in 1989.

"This is a major event," said Lieutenant Colonel Glynn Smith of the coastguard in New Orleans. "Things are going well, but three-quarters of the oil from the spills has not yet been recovered."

The figure does not include petrol and oil spilt from up to 250,000 cars which have been submerged, or that spilt from hundreds of petrol stations. The coastguard says it has received almost 400 reports of spills, the vast majority of which have not been assessed.

President Bush attempted to regain the political initiative with an address to the nation pledging an unprecedented federal effort to help rebuild New Orleans and the Gulf coast. The prime-time speech from New Orleans was timed to confront growing doubts over his leadership abilities, after the stuttering federal response to Katrina's impact.

A poll published by the New York Times and CBS found 53% of the population disapproved of the way Mr Bush was doing his job; 63% thought the country was "on the wrong track", and 65% thought he had been too slow to respond to the hurricane.

Mr Bush pledged to provide housing assistance for the hurricane's victims, as well as federal help with education, social services and employment, in what is predicted to be the biggest federal reconstruction effort on US soil.

The message locally was also upbeat. The New Orleans mayor, Ray Nagin, said large parts of the city would reopen early next week, although it was not clear how many of the 182,000 residents in those areas would return to their homes.

"The city of New Orleans will start to breathe again. We will have life. We will have commerce. We will have people getting into their normal mode of operations, and the rhythm that makes this city so unique," Mr Nagin said.

As the US Army Corps of Engineers put out barriers to prevent oil getting into Lake Pontchartrain, there were new concerns that many some of the region's toxic waste dumps could also be leaking dangerous chemicals. "We worry that most of the city of New Orleans could end up being a toxic waste site," said Erik Olson, a senior attorney with the Natural Resources Defence council.

The estimated reconstruction price tag, more than $200bn, has horrified many Republicans worried that it derail any effort to get the country's deficit spending under control. However, Karl Rove, the president's political adviser, is reported to have deemed it essential to regaining public confidence in the administration.

The extent of the political damage was underlined yesterday in a column on the federal response by a conservative columnist and former speechwriter for Ronald Reagan, Peggy Noonan. "The White House was spinning when it should have been acting," she wrote in the Wall Street Journal. "In this area the administration has gotten way too clever while at the same time becoming stupider."

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http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2008/07/16/hurricane-spill-lie-repeated/
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/17/pfotenhauer-misinformed-oil-spill/
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« Reply #84 on: May 16, 2010, 09:44:14 AM »

The Halliburton Clan ssure play dirty Paw!
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« Reply #85 on: May 29, 2010, 07:43:01 PM »

I'm not sure where the "those things dont burn" crap comes from, but that looks like a melted hole, not an impact strike from a high speed weapon. I swear, some people make this shit up as they go along, making you are bad as Sorcha Faal. The discolorations along the edge are an indicator, as well as the assymetrical shape. There does not appear to be any sort of fracture or fault lines which would indicate there was an impact either. Coupled with the fact that the hellipads are usually hanging off the side of the platform, over the water, it makes absolutely zero, i mean nill sense to shoot anything through it. Couplked with the fact that there are far better ways of blowing up one of those behemoths without risking exposure by evidence.
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« Reply #86 on: June 02, 2010, 04:05:48 AM »

Published on Tuesday, June 1, 2010 by The Guardian/UK

Storm Warning for Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill Clean-Up

Specialists working to contain BP disaster dealt new blow by opening of Gulf of Mexico hurricane season

by Ed Pilkington

The thousands of oil and ocean specialists working to contain the Deepwater Horizon disaster have a new potential problem to contend with: the official opening yesterday of the Gulf of Mexico hurricane season.

The site of the Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. Forecasters have warned that 2010 will be a busy hurricane season. (Photograph: Jae C. Hong/AP)


In keeping with the unfolding nature of the crisis, where bad news has been compounded by yet more bad news, 2010 promises to be a busy hurricane season.

In the past few years the storms have been limited as a result of the giant weather pattern known as El Niño, but that is now subsiding.

Weather forecasters at Colorado State University predict an unusually high number of named storms – thunderstorms with a clear circular motion and wind speeds of at least 40mph. They expect 15 named storms, eight of which could be hurricane strength (at least 74mph).

Oceanographers are now looking at the likely impact of storms on the Gulf clean-up operation. For a start, the current efforts to contain and extract oil from the sea's surface are likely to be disrupted.

The more than 500 boats working around the stricken oil well would have to turn back to shore, and the hard containment booms protecting more than 100 miles of beaches and marshlands would be overcome by waves whipped up by strong winds.

More worryingly, storms could drive the oil far inland. Mark Bourassa, a specialist in oceans and weather at Florida State University, estimates that a hurricane or tropical storm could push oil up to 12 miles upriver – and deep into the grassy marshes that cover much of the Gulf shoreline and act as breeding grounds for fish and birds.

"The Gulf marshlands are particularly vulnerable and that could do great ecological damage," Bourassa said.

Hurricanes move in an anticlockwise direction in the Gulf, and those that strike to the west of the Deepwater Horizon well are likely to drive the oil onshore, while those that strike to the east are more likely to push it back out to sea. Florida will be particularly vulnerable to storms sweeping the pollution in its direction.

The high winds and big waves could also vastly extend the surface area over which the slick extends, making the clean-up all the more difficult.

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« Reply #87 on: June 02, 2010, 08:47:37 AM »

Worst case: BP leak could last until Christmas


By John Byrne
Wednesday, June 2nd, 2010 -- 8:38 am
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0602/worst-case-bp-leak-christmas/



This year's Christmas won't be so merry under a worst-case scenario released Wednesday by a major energy investor.

Writing about BP's effort to plug a leak from a drill site that became exposed after a deepwater oil rig burst into flames and sunk in April, an energy investor noted that the company's success rate didn't promise well for its would-be ultimate solution. BP plans to drill two "relief wells," near the drill site, that in theory would allow the company to finally staunch the massive flow of oil spurting from the earth 5,000 feet under the Gulf of Mexico.

“The worst-case scenario is Christmas time,” Dan Pickering, research director for energy investor Tudor Pickering Holt & Co., told Bloomberg News for a story Wednesday. “This process is teaching us to be skeptical of deadlines.”

Ending the year with a still-gushing well would mean about 4 million barrels of oil spilled into the Gulf, based on the government’s current estimate of 12,000 to 19,000 barrels leaking a day. That would wipe out marine life deep at sea near the leak and elsewhere in the Gulf, and along hundreds of miles of coastline, said Harry Roberts, a professor of Coastal Studies at Louisiana State University.

So much crude pouring into the ocean may alter the chemistry of the sea, with unforeseeable results, said Mak Saito, an Associate Scientist at Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Massachusetts...


The so-called relief well being drilled to intercept and plug the damaged well by mid-August might miss -- as other emergency wells have done before -- requiring more time to make a second, third or fourth try, Dave Rensink, President Elect of the American Association of Petroleum Geologists, said.
A spokesman for BP declined to comment.

Late Tuesday, a remote controlled submarine successfully cut into the Deepwater Horizon's riser pipe, creating a fresh oil gusher that BP hopes to fit with a cap once a diamond saw can be used to ensure the cut is perfectly clean.

The dramatic scene played out on live streamed video, watched by thousands all over the world.

"When the robot submarines cut into the undersea well's riser pipe, a fresh spew of oil temporarily obscured the view of the mechanical arm," CNN reported. "The cut was a first step toward placing a cap over the well that has spewed hundreds of thousands of gallons of oil into the Gulf of Mexico every day since late April."

BP chief operating officer Doug Suttles told the network the fresh attempt to plug the oil gusher could succeed as early as Thursday. The company plans to fit a long tube onto the cap and funnel the gushing oil into a tanker ship.

The risk of the maneuver, CNN added, is that it could increase the flow of oil by 20 percent.

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« Reply #88 on: June 04, 2010, 06:03:00 AM »

BP And Halliburton Try To Buy Off Government Officials Investigating Spill

Posted By Alex Seitz-Wald On June 3, 2010 @ 11:59 am

This post originally appeared on Think Progress.

Facing possible jail time for their roles in the largest oil spill in American history, BP and Halliburton are building high-powered legal teams with “deep Department of Justice and White House ties.” But the companies are pursuing other means to defend themselves as well.

Halliburton’s campaign donations have spiked as it tries to curry favor with key members of Congress investigating the disaster. The company donated $17,000 in May, making it “the busiest donation month for Halliburton’s PAC since September 2008,” Politico reports. Thirteen of the 14 contributions from May went to Republicans, while seven went to members of Congress who are “on committees withoversight of the oil spill and its aftermath”:


About one week before executive Timothy Probert appeared before the House Energy and Commerce’s investigative subcommittee, Halliburton donated $1,500 to Ranking Republican Joe Barton’s reelection effort. It was Halliburton’s second-largest donation of the month — topped only by $2,500 to former Rep. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.), who is running for the Senate.

In the Senate, Idaho Republican Mike Crapo, who serves on the Environment and Public Works Committee, Georgia Republican Johnny Isakson, who serves on the Commerce Committee and North Carolina Republican Richard Burr (N.C.), who serves on the Energy and Natural Resources Committee, all got $1,000. Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) also got $1,000.

Meanwhile, a Hill analysis found that primarily during the Bush administration, BP and other oil companies “paid for dozens of trips and meals for officials” from the Department of Interior, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), and the Department of Homeland Security — agencies deeply involved in the regulation of oil exploration and spill cleanup. BP had the “highest tab for gifts to government officials” of all oil and gas companies:

BP and its affiliates — BP America and BP Exploration — show up in the gift reports at least 16 different times, paying for meals as well as for oil and gas industry seminars and tours of oil facilities. The cost of the gifts totaled more than $7,200.

Only two industry-funded trips took place during the first nine months of President Obama’s administration. In 2004, BP paid for a group of Interior officials to visit an offshore rig in the Gulf of Mexico. The group included then-deputy secretary J. Steven Griles, wholater went to prison for his role in Jack Abramoff scandal. In 2005, BP paid for travel and meals for then-Interior Secretary Gale Norton and then-Minerals Management Service (MMS) Director Johnnie Burton to attended the dedication ceremony of another offshore rig in the Gulf. BP also paid for officials from the EPA and the Fish and Wildlife Service to visit Prudhoe Bay, Alaska over a period of several years. A recent Interior Inspector General report covering 2005 to 2007 found a “culture of lax oversight and cozy ties to industry.” Since January of 2008, BP lobbyists have spent $30 million to influence legislation, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

Some coastal governors have benefited from BP as well. BP and other oil companies gave Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour (R) $1.8 million dollars for his campaign, and since the spill, he’s been aggressively downplaying the disaster and encouraging people to visit his state’s oily beaches. Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell (R) traveled to a BP-funded conference in Houston last month “to lobby aggressively to drill for oil and natural gas without delay.” Meanwhile, Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) dismissed potential BP negligence by calling the spill an “act of God” at a trade association funded by BP in May.


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« Reply #89 on: July 03, 2010, 04:52:28 PM »

I don't think this thing was bombed, I do think the blowout preventer was allowed to fail and the large amount of pressure to build up so the explosion could happen. The whole rig is on its side in that pic, it could have been damaged in a number of ways.
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« Reply #90 on: July 03, 2010, 05:14:48 PM »

IMO, all the really rotten things done to us past 25-30 years, all seem to kick back to that one evil asshole....Cheney!!
trying to find him in the JFK story somewhere Wink
evil bastard is also poisoning the wells of Americans in Pa, WVa, Col, Wy, MT w/ his frag drilling chemical death machines
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« Reply #91 on: July 03, 2010, 05:15:39 PM »

Exactly, this entire spill is all about the corexit 9500.  The reality is the had millions and millions of gallons of that poison and they needed a reason to dump it into the ocean.

Any 3rd grader can tell you that the entire planet's food chain begins and ends with the ocean.  They know this, they are pulling the plug and causing mass panic and death with poison they are spraying on the local population [me] from above [I see it in Southern Fla every day for over 5 years now]

This helipad 7 incident only massively further corroborates the notion that the entire rig was set to blow [which has been admitted by BP insiders already].  

Corexit 9500, it's what's for dinner.
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« Reply #92 on: July 03, 2010, 08:20:18 PM »

I have not seen anyone show the actual night time explosion like we have:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=171903.0

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These are NO WHERE ELSE ON THE NET ... THE PDF ITSELF COMES FROM A VERY RELIABLE INTERNAL SOURCE....


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You may have heard the news in the last two days about the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig which caught fire, burned for two days, then sank in 5,000 ft of water in the Gulf of Mexico.  There are still 11 men missing, and they are not expected to be found.   The rig belongs to Transocean, the world’s biggest offshore drilling contractor.  The rig was originally contracted through the year 2013 to BP and was working on BP’s Macondo exploration well when the fire broke out.  The rig costs about $500,000 per day to contract.  The full drilling spread, with helicopters and support vessels and other services, will cost closer to $1,000,000 per day to operate in the course of drilling for oil and gas.

The rig cost about $350,000,000 to build in 2001 and would cost at least double that to replace today.  The rig represents the cutting edge of drilling technology.  It is a floating rig, capable of working in up to 10,000 ft water depth.  The rig is not moored;  It does not use anchors because it would be too costly and too heavy to suspend this mooring load from the floating structure.  Rather, a triply-redundant computer system uses satellite positioning to control powerful thrusters that keep the rig on station within a few feet of its intended location, at all times.  This is called Dynamic Positioning.  The rig had apparently just finished cementing steel casing in place at depths exceeding 18,000 ft.  The next operation was to suspend the well so that the rig could move to its next drilling location, the idea being that a rig would return to this well later in order to complete the work necessary to bring the well into production.

It is thought that somehow formation fluids – oil /gas – got into the wellbore and were undetected until it was too late to take action.  With a floating drilling rig setup, because it moves with the waves, currents, and winds, all of the main pressure control equipment sits on the seabed – the uppermost unmoving point in the well.  This pressure control equipment – the Blowout Preventers, or ‘BOP’s” as they’re called, are controlled with redundant systems from the rig.  In the event of a serious emergency, there are multiple Panic Buttons to hit, and even fail-safe Deadman systems that should be automatically engaged when something of this proportion breaks out.  None of them were aparently activated, suggesting that the blowout was especially swift to escalate at the surface.   The flames were visible up to about 35 miles away.  Not the glow – the flames.  They were 200 – 300 ft high.

All of this will be investigated and it will be some months before all of the particulars are known.  For now, it is enough to say that this marvel of modern technology, which had been operating with an excellent safety record, has burned up and sunk taking souls with it.  The well still is apparently flowing oil, which is appearing at the surface as a slick.  They have been working with remotely operated vehicles, or ROV’s which are essentially tethered miniature submarines with manipulator arms and other equipment that can perform work underwater while the operator sits on a vessel.  These are what were used to explore the Titanic, among other things.  Every floating rig has one on board and they are in constant use.

In this case, they are deploying ROV’s from dedicated service vessels. They have been trying to close the well in using a specialized port on the BOP’s and a pumping arrangement on their ROV’s. They have been unsuccessful so far.  Specialized pollution control vessels have been scrambled to start working the spill, skimming the oil up.  In the coming weeks they will move in at least one other rig to drill a fresh well that will intersect the blowing one at its pay zone.  They will use technology that is capable of drilling from a floating rig, over 3 miles deep to an exact specific point in the earth – with a target radius of just a few feet plus or minus.

Once they intersect their target, a heavy fluid will be pumped that exceeds the formation’s pressure, thus causing the flow to cease and rendering the well safe at last.  It will take at least a couple of months to get this done, bringing all available technology to bear.  It will be an ecological disaster if the well flows all of the while;  Optimistically, it could bridge off downhole.  It’s a sad day when something like this happens to any rig, but even more so when it happens to something on the cutting edge of our capabilities.  The photos that follow show the progression of events over the 36 hours from catching fire to sinking.


















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« Reply #93 on: July 03, 2010, 08:32:53 PM »

IMO, all the really rotten things done to us past 25-30 years, all seem to kick back to that one evil asshole....Cheney!!
trying to find him in the JFK story somewhere Wink
You will find him actually along with Bush in the CIA. There's a great video on that .. I'll try and find it.
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