Dimitri Khalezov's disinfo push "no planes" absurdity and cultish following

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Great to hear your positive feedback donnay.

The first 20 minutes of Part 2 is focused on WTC 7 ... Dimitri even explains the demolition of Fiterman Hall, which was damaged and was directly behind WTC 7. 

And yes, the BBC report announcing the collapse of WTC7 before it actually happened is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7SwOT29gbc


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Yes, I researched that Fiterman Hall--I was not familiar with that building, no news on it that I can recall.  But, of course, most people didn't even know WTC-7 went down on 9/11 either.

http://www.downtownexpress.com/de_106/fitermanhalllast.html
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Finchie, did you watch all of Part 1? I realize that it's a 2 hour clip, but really, the explanation he presents is thorough. If you're passing judgement on his explanation without watching his interview, then i'm sorry, but how can people take your comment seriously.

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I have watched it all.
I was the 'former member' on this thread
http://www.meetup.com/WeAreChangeManchester/boards/thread/8920194/30/
One of the reasons I left this group was because I didn't want to be associated with such theories.

Quick question: We have to buy the book to find out who perpetrated 9/11 according to this theory so can you tell me the answer to that question based on the nuclear demolition theory? (or do I have to buy the book?)

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I have watched it all.
I was the 'former member' on this thread
http://www.meetup.com/WeAreChangeManchester/boards/thread/8920194/30/
One of the reasons I left this group was because I didn't want to be associated with such theories.

Quick question: We have to buy the book to find out who perpetrated 9/11 according to this theory so can you tell me the answer to that question based on the nuclear demolition theory? (or do I have to buy the book?)

No, you don't have to buy anything.

You can find this re-post by Dimitri's where he identified the perpetrator (s several links available):
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_911_154.htm

The full answer is longer but (see under "Who did 911?"):

"The man who planned 9/11, his name is Mike Harari (now 82 or 83 years old) who is a retired counterintelligence specialist and former Deputy Chief of the Mossad ...."

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Thanks Anthony. I'll have a read.

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Because 911 is such a big and complex topic, may i suggest that people measure/gauge the reliability and quality of any evidence presented to explain the events of 911 into the following 3 Levels:

Level 1: Evidence that disproves the official 911 Commission Report
Level 2: Evidence that offers a more concise and logical explanation
Level 3: Evidence that proves "who" orchestrated the events and what they're motives were

Each level requires progressively more evidence and information to satisfy it. However, once evidence is presented to satisfy a level it cannot be undone by failing to pass the next level. This is what skeptics and debunkers have been doing to people looking for the truth: As soon as someone fails to provide sufficient evidence to satisfy a higher level of questioning, skeptics and debunkers throw the entire argument out the window. This is obviously not fair, but that's what happens. By applying a progressive 3 Level approach in explaining what happened, the evidence and work presented to suffice previous levels cannot be discarded simply because you failed to answer all questions in the next level.

Applying this litmus test to Dimitri's explanation:

Level 1:
Having solid evidence for this level is the minimum required to open a serious discussion. Many researches have done an excellent job punching large holes in the official 911 commission report. Dimitri supplies ample evidence throughout his explanation and passes this level.
 
Level 2:
Solid evidence with a clearly detailed explanation is required to get past this level. This is where virtually all 911 theories struggle .... they don't offer a clear alternative explanation that stands up to all debunking. For example, if it wasn't planes, then what exactly brought down the 3 towers and what exactly hit the pentagon? This is where Dimitri's explanation is BY FAR the most detailed and logical. Within this level, even if for whatever reason, people choose to disagree with his explanation about bombs being planted instead of planes at this level, it does not change the crux of his explanation of how the buildings were demolished. Dimitri himself points that out clearly. Dimitri's evidence and explanation satisfies Level 2, where as the various explanations based on planted pre-explosives do not (FYI, skeptics and debunkers have a field day with this topic, but they struggle to do the same with Dimitri's explanation)

Level 3:
Again, detailed solid evidence is required to satisfy this level. However, solving this level is not necessary for sufficiently disproving the official 911 story, nor is it necessary for solving the mechanics of the 911 events. Solving this Level 3 is only necessary to identify the culprits and their motives. Dimitri offers his opinion to satisfy this level, but agreeing with him or not does not negate his work in satisfying levels 1 and 2.

Personally, i believe that Dimitri's explanation satisfies Levels 1 and 2 very well. As for Level 3, I will accept his opinion about who did it until stronger evidence presents itself. So far i found other sources that in fact support his explanation of "who", but i remain open minded about this.

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watched a few minutes of it
its a load of crap. dont bother

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the only problem is they didn't point out that BBC reported the collapse of the Solomon Brothers Building (WTC-7) before it actually collapsed (Jane Stanley was in NYC reporting).  


Yes, they did include the BBC clip. He said that the building collapsed 24 min after the BBC report.

I will try to find the time in video.

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watched a few minutes of it
its a load of crap. dont bother


If you only watched a few minutes, that was your mistake. The first 10 mins or so is slow, but then the rest is riveting and compelling (as Donnay said).

I would suggest you watch it in its entirety then share your opinion. I think your opinion will change if you watch entire thing.



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I think Anthonyc is on to something. I've watched all of 1 and part way into 2, and I'm seeing a picture here that is ringing more true, when put together with other information, than all the other theories. That said, I still have many questions. However, this guy deals mostly with the explosions issue, that's his expertise, so other information surrounding the events has to come from other sources.

But this video is clarifying some things in my research - some missing pieces are explained.

I highly recommend people watch this and compare it to other theories you have heard.


That's not saying I agree with everything. There is so much we can't know for sure, but we must consider this as we look at various theories of what happenend.

FOR EXAMPLE: He doesn't agree with the THERMITE theory because he says THERMITE can't pulversize steel, but only melt it. Only a Nuclear Device can pulversize steel like what was done to the towers.


Also, he says that 3 nuclear devices were part of the original building plans in what they called a Demolition Schema. It was required before the NYC permit was granted to build the towers. He then says the 3 devices were stored underneath WTC7 and taken over via tunnels to the other 2 buildings and set up.

(Also remember that September 11, 2001 was the historical anniversary of the building of the WTC towers - I think it was like the 60th anniversary? Will have to look up the exact date. That to me shows premeditation, as part of some sort of plan, connected with these devices being also stored under the towers.)

Amazing info!
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I think Anthonyc is on to something. I've watched all of 1 and part way into 2, and I'm seeing a picture here that is ringing more true, when put together with other information, than all the other theories. That said, I still have many questions. However, this guy deals mostly with the explosions issue, that's his expertise, so other information surrounding the events has to come from other sources.

But this video is clarifying some things in my research - some missing pieces are explained.


I agree jofortruth, I think there were serveral things that this theory definitely explains, the thermite, the polverized material vs. 'crushed' or melted...please watch.

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I think Anthonyc is on to something. I've watched all of 1 and part way into 2, and I'm seeing a picture here that is ringing more true, when put together with other information, than all the other theories. That said, I still have many questions. However, this guy deals mostly with the explosions issue, that's his expertise, so other information surrounding the events has to come from other sources.

But this video is clarifying some things in my research - some missing pieces are explained.

I highly recommend people watch this and compare it to other theories you have heard.


That's not saying I agree with everything. There is so much we can't know for sure, but we must consider this as we look at various theories of what happenend.

FOR EXAMPLE: He doesn't agree with the THERMITE theory because he says THERMITE can't pulversize steel, but only melt it. Only a Nuclear Device can pulversize steel like what was done to the towers.


Also, he says that 3 nuclear devices were part of the original building plans in what they called a Demolition Schema. It was required before the NYC permit was granted to build the towers. He then says the 3 devices were stored underneath WTC7 and taken over via tunnels to the other 2 buildings and set up.

(Also remember that September 11, 2001 was the historical anniversary of the building of the WTC towers - I think it was like the 60th anniversary? Will have to look up the exact date. That to me shows premeditation, as part of some sort of plan, connected with these devices being also stored under the towers.)

Amazing info!



Jo,

The WTC towers were finished being built in 1972.  I believe (if memory serves me) the towers were started in 1966. 


World Trade Center Stats

    * 200,000 tons of steel
    * 425,000 cubic yards of concrete
    * 43,600 windows
    * 12,000 miles of electric cables



All of the above states were pulverized and people had breathed that into their lungs!!  Rat bastards!

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/wtc1.html


This photo always made me wonder if nukes were used.





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    Keep it simple, they did find unexploded thermite in the dust.
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    Keep it simple, they did find unexploded thermite in the dust.

You cannot keep it simple.  Too many things to consider.  Thermite, doesn't turn things into dust.  If not a nuke, then what turned everything into dust?
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Yes, they did include the BBC clip. He said that the building collapsed 24 min after the BBC report.

I will try to find the time in video.



I forgot to mention that the BBC clip is already in Part 2 at the 4:30' mark.

Here's the link again:
http://www.youtube.com/anthonyc31?v=c39O-ftZboU

BTW, Part 2 revisits (in detail) a few of the topics that Dimitri touched on in Part 1 regarding planes and media manipulation. I'm hoping that more people watch Part 2 to realize the next level of details that Dimitri introduces. The explanation of the Pentagon missile is absolutely excellent. He leaves no stone unturned.

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watched a few minutes of it
its a load of crap. dont bother

Sorry mate, i can't take your comment seriously unless you watch at least Part 1 in full.  Please reconsider, skip the first 7-8 minutes background if needed but please get through Part 1 before casting judgement.

Anthony


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PROOF THAT THIS GUY IS CREDIBLE. I'M FINDING DOCUMENT AFTER DOCUMENT THAT HE REFERRED TO FROM HISTORY, IN THE VIDEO. I WILL MOVE THE LINKS HERE AS I HAVE TIME. THIS IS A MUST SEE!
http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=9219&st=0
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This photo always made me wonder if nukes were used.

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In Part 2, if you watch 16'- 26' section, Dimitri uses the photos your posted to help explain where the devices were located under WTC1, WTC2 and WTC7:
http://www.youtube.com/anthonyc31?v=c39O-ftZboU

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PROOF THAT THIS GUY IS CREDIBLE. I'M FINDING DOCUMENT AFTER DOCUMENT THAT HE REFERRED TO FROM HISTORY, IN THE VIDEO. I WILL MOVE THE LINKS HERE AS I HAVE TIME. THIS IS A MUST SEE!
http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=9219&st=0

A big thanks for taking time to view the videos and help validate his claims. This is great news.

Anthony

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A big thanks for taking time to view the videos and help validate his claims. This is great news.

Anthony


No problem! After seeing this video and actually finding documents that show he is credible, this is my new project. I'm still checking out his claims, and everyone needs to be helping with this. PLEASE WATCH THIS VIDEO AND TAKE SOMETHING HE SAYS AND DO SOME RESEARCH ON IT, AND POST WHAT YOU FIND HERE!

THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE, AS ALEX JONES SAYS, I FEEL A FALSE FLAG COMING! ALSO BEING THAT THE SEARS TOWER WAS BUILT UNDER THE SAME DEMOLITION SCHEMA, AND SILVERSTEIN BOUGHT IT SEVERAL YEARS AFTER 911; WELL YOU PUT 2+2 TOGETHER! (It may have turned over hands since then, but just the fact he bought it makes me suspicious)
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No problem! After seeing this video and actually finding documents that show he is credible, this is my new project. I'm still checking out his claims, and everyone needs to be helping with this. PLEASE WATCH THIS VIDEO AND TAKE SOMETHING HE SAYS AND DO SOME RESEARCH ON IT, AND POST WHAT YOU FIND HERE!


This is very good news.

I'm really hoping more people watch BOTH parts of the interview intently. In Part 2, Dimitri does an excellent job of explaining, and proving, the remaining open issues, like WTC7 and exactly what hit the Pentagon, etc.

Anthony

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This is very good news.

I'm really hoping more people watch BOTH parts of the interview intently. In Part 2, Dimitri does an excellent job of explaining, and proving, the remaining open issues, like WTC7 and exactly what hit the Pentagon, etc.

Anthony

I agree! I just finished watching Part 2! He sounds credible to me! How did you come across this information? First I've heard of him.

I find it interesting that Congress just recently agreed to compensate the 1st Responders. So I guess they have a DC APPOINTED DOCTOR? How convenient is that. You can be sure they'll never be told they have RADIATION SICKNESS as long as they're treated by SPECIALLY APPOINTED DOCTORS. However, the people who live around the area or who work in the area should be taking special note of those dying around them. They certainly should be able to tell something is not right when people are dropping like flies!

It is thoroughly disgusting that the US Govt lied about something like this, and that so many have died SINCE 911 as a direct result of those lies! Who can trust a thing they say anymore?   >:(
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..many of you are aware that I am a Structural Engineer and also a Nuclear Engineer, I preface my comments with this fact to establish that I am VERY concerned with the mechanics of the failure...

...I have said for MANY years all explanations regarding the destruction of the towers has neglected to adequately provide to my level of rigor and detail a sufficient explanation of how steel and concrete were turned to a very fine dust..... I have questioned for years why was the center of the buildings lower bowels entombed in molten lava....

..being on the non-weapon side of Nuclear I had not peered into the processes and techniques developed for underground testing..... you must understand this information, ALL information on Nuclear processes is largely disseminated via tribal knowledge, meaning training and learning in SPECIFIC detail requires either working in that industry or serving within that part of the military...

..however as this gentleman was speaking it was apparent that this is the ONLY CONCEIVABLE explanation that intellectually satisfies what we saw with our eyes.....

I am not overly "religious" however I have often wondered when God would allow the sins of these CONSPIRATORS to FIND THEM OUT..... I believe this is it..... think about it...
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I agree! I just finished watching Part 2! He sounds credible to me! How did you come across this information? First I've heard of him.

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I am very happy to read all the positive reactions to Dimitri's explanation.

I stumbled across an online discussion about nuclear demolition that had a link to http://www.911-truth.net. I became curious to learn more so i poked around his various sites and started reading his comments. At some point, i decided to download all 26 parts of his interview and started watching. I had to stop when he mentioned "no planes". I didn't quite believe him so i basically spent a couple days looking at the NOSE OUT video. I even did my own comparing 2 different camera angles showing where F175 supposedly hit WTC2. Here is what i discovered in doing that -- basically, 2 different camera angles show the same plane hitting 2 different points of WTC 2.

I have the image of the work i did on my Flickr to show friends etc. but i'm reluctant to say this is totally 100% solid. I'm sharing this here to explain what convinced me personally that he was absolutely onto something:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/anthonyc31/5635880965/in/set-72157626535727204/lightbox/

I then went back and continued watching the rest of the interview in one sitting. I was totally blown away. It was actually a strange feeling (more like a relief) to finally know the answers to almost all of my 911 questions and to those pesky details that have remained unexplained (e.g. dust, molten lava, no plane at pentagon, sears tower, etc.).

I showed a few friends and they too became convinced, which made me realize that Dimitri's explanation is the correct answer. I then googled him and found all sorts of interesting links including references to banned books and banned videos, which added fuel to the fire.

During this time, i learned how to do video editing with PowerDirector and started making Alex Jones clips to share with my friends. Then recently i decided to tackle the big project of fixing Dimitri's 26-part interview and making more watchable for people. I sat on it for a while longer and then when Rumsfeld claimed he didn't know anything about Building 7, i thought that would be a very powerful clip to add to the interview. I finished editing (took 9 tries actually), and posted to my youtube channel recently, again, mainly for friends (i get 50-200 views of my videos). Then when this Osama BS happened, i snapped and decided that Alex Jones NEEDS to here Dimitri's explanation because it is the truth and because skeptics and debunkers cannot dismiss this information.

I now reach out to all of YOU to PLEASE help us get Alex Jones himself to REVISIT this 911 topic with Dimitri's explanation. Once people finally realize what really happened on 911, we will start to win over more and more people to our efforts.

So the next step is to reach out to influential people on this forum (i don't know anyone here) and ask them to start by just watching Part 1, then hopefully they complete the explanation by watching Part 2. I have faith that smart people will figure out the rest.

Again MANY thanks to you guys for being the first to invest your time with this.

Anthony.


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..many of you are aware that I am a Structural Engineer and also a Nuclear Engineer, I preface my comments with this fact to establish that I am VERY concerned with the mechanics of the failure...

...I have said for MANY years all explanations regarding the destruction of the towers has neglected to adequately provide to my level of rigor and detail a sufficient explanation of how steel and concrete were turned to a very fine dust.....

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..however as this gentleman was speaking it was apparent that this is the ONLY CONCEIVABLE explanation that intellectually satisfies what we saw with our eyes.....

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Excellent feedback, i am so happy you watched the interview for yourself. I really hope you find time to watch Part 2 ... it's actually just as good as Part 1, especially regarding the Pentagon event.

I ask that everyone please reach out to other influential people on this forum (and beyond) and ask them to watch both parts of the interview for themselves. I am confident that when people looking for the truth watch the full interview, they will realize it's credibility and importance. The information that Dimitri presents stands on its own -- we just have to help people find and watch his interview.

Please feel free to download both videos and post them to your own YouTube accounts, torrents and video feeds. No problem.

Part 1 (2 hours)
http://www.youtube.com/anthonyc31?v=vNuKAdGlxFo
Download link:
http://keep-tube.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DvNuKAdGlxFo>


Part 2 (2 hours)

http://www.youtube.com/anthonyc31?v=c39O-ftZboU
Download link:
http://keep-tube.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dc39O-ftZboU>

For those of you that watched part of the interview and were unimpressed, please RECONSIDER and watch at least ALL of Part 1 ... and hopefully Part 2 as well.

Thanks again for all the positive feedback. We're in this together guys.

Anthony

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Thank you for bringing it to our attention! I also appreciate the background you just shared!

You did a superb job with the video! I have shared it with many, and hope others will do the same.

If there is any other specific info you think we should look at from your sites, please post it here. I'm currently looking into as much as I can of the info he covers.

Question? Do you have any other supporting info on the WTC construction and the "demolition schema"? I found the NY Building Code 1968, which does verify that existed in the code, but looking for more in maybe some old articles when WTC built? Thx!

MY RESEARCH ON VIDEO MATERIAL (Please give this link to people)
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..many of you are aware that I am a Structural Engineer and also a Nuclear Engineer, I preface my comments with this fact to establish that I am VERY concerned with the mechanics of the failure...

...I have said for MANY years all explanations regarding the destruction of the towers has neglected to adequately provide to my level of rigor and detail a sufficient explanation of how steel and concrete were turned to a very fine dust..... I have questioned for years why was the center of the buildings lower bowels entombed in molten lava....

..being on the non-weapon side of Nuclear I had not peered into the processes and techniques developed for underground testing..... you must understand this information, ALL information on Nuclear processes is largely disseminated via tribal knowledge, meaning training and learning in SPECIFIC detail requires either working in that industry or serving within that part of the military...

..however as this gentleman was speaking it was apparent that this is the ONLY CONCEIVABLE explanation that intellectually satisfies what we saw with our eyes.....

I am not overly "religious" however I have often wondered when God would allow the sins of these CONSPIRATORS to FIND THEM OUT..... I believe this is it..... think about it...

Thx for your feedback! I hope this will help people take this seriously!

We can not continue to allow our government to lie to us in such a grievous manner! What I saw in this video is unconscionable, and EVERY AMERICAN MUST SEE THIS! IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR FAMILY YOU WILL TAKE THE TIME TO WATCH THESE VIDEOS! Give up your tv time one evening!

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His Book: (11 Chapters to preview and pass on for free)
http://www.dimitri-khalezov-video.com/Dimi..._911thology.htm
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Thank you for bringing it to our attention! I also appreciate the background you just shared!

You did a superb job with the video! I have shared it with many, and hope others will do the same.

If there is any other specific info you think we should look at from your sites, please post it here. I'm currently looking into as much as I can of the info he covers.

Question? Do you have any other supporting info on the WTC construction and the "demolition schema"? I found the NY Building Code 1968, which does verify that existed in the code, but looking for more in maybe some old articles when WTC built? Thx!

MY RESEARCH ON VIDEO MATERIAL (Please give this link to people)
http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=9219


Wow, good work on finding that. I think the smoking gun is the newspaper article he mentions in the interview (he mentions it was in the ~1980s) stating the outrage people had over a WTC worker discovering the nuclear device schema. I saw Dimitri comment on this on a forum (i don't have the link handy, but i'll look for it later) saying he was actively looking for that one piece of evidence. Personally, i think if he or someone finds it, it'll make his testimony 110% indisputable. But personally, i'm beyond  satisfied with the facts and evidence in his presentation.

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MY RESEARCH ON VIDEO MATERIAL (Please give this link to people)
http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=9219


I just visited your site, excellent work so far. Really, this is what is needed. The more we bang on his explanation to ensure it's solid (or not), the more credible it becomes.

Anthony


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I just visited your site, excellent work so far. Really, this is what is needed. The more we bang on his explanation to ensure it's solid (or not), the more credible it becomes.

Anthony



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Before i forget, now that you people are tuning into this Dimitri Khalezov interview, while making the 2 part series, the only section i cut of the original 26 part series was where Dimitri discusses the FBI and their interest in him. Reason i removed it was simply because it delayed getting to the more interesting part which is his actual explanation of 911. For those curious to see the short cut out section, it's ~ at the 7 minute mark through to 9':50 (almost 3 minutes long), or just scroll the play bar thumb to just under the "m" in Dimitri's name imposed on the video:

http://www.911-truth.net/911_WTC_nuclear_demolition_Dimitri_Khalezov_part01.mp4

By the way http://www.911-truth.net is Dimitri's web site and it contains all of the evidence he presents in the interview and also has the original 26-part interview itself. Also, I recommend at some point reading the "debunking the debunkers" PDF here:
http://www.911-truth.net/!_Debunking_the_debunkers-_famous_physicist_Jan_Zeman_vs_infamous_impostor_Dimitri_Khalezov.pdf

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I have seen this man's presentation before. It is very interesting and would go a long way toward explaining many unanswered questions.

One problem with his claims however, is that there were supposedly some survivors near the first floor who were in a stairwell. If I understand Khalezov's claims correctly, he is saying that the tremendous heat from the underground nukes traveled up the structure of the towers, and caused them to basically disintegrate. How could these men have survived if this is the case?

Could this story of these stairwell survivors be a fabrication designed to help cover up what Khalezov is describing? I know this is an area of speculation (questioning the veracity of 9/11 victims testimonies) most do not want to venture into, but we know the so-called "Harley Guy" was an actor. Who knows?

Here is a video about the stairwell survivors -

9/11 The Miracle of Stairwell B -

I may be a bit fuzzy on some of Khalezov's details. I will check out the videos posted at the top of the thread later.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWiCxz5ki80

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Could this story of these stairwell survivors be a fabrication designed to help cover up what Khalezov is describing? I know this is an area of speculation (questioning the veracity of 9/11 victims testimonies) most do not want to venture into, but we know the so-called "Harley Guy" was an actor. Who knows?

Here is a video about the stairwell survivors -

9/11 The Miracle of Stairwell B -

I may be a bit fuzzy on some of Khalezov's details. I will check out the videos posted at the top of the thread later.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWiCxz5ki80

Good work digging this up.

I have 3 comments about this video:

1. If you go to the 30 second mark, the supposed survivor says he heard "floors" falling on him "boom boom boom". That would not have been the case since the vast majority of both buildings turned to dust.

2. Watch this clip with 911 firefighter Joe Casaliggi that emphatically says:
"you don't find a desk, you don't find a chair, you don't find a telephone, a computer, the biggest piece of a telephone i found was half of the keypad and it was about this big"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcXP2jbxzJI
Now, my guess is that any small debris found came from the very top floors that were not part of the crushed zone (i.e. pulverized to dust) but in fact came from the 30+ floors at the top that were exposed to the damage zone.

3. There were so many questionable witnesses that day ... i take all their testimony with a big grain of salt. However, i tend to believe (or at least have more confidence in) the witnesses that were taped "that moment" ... i.e. the people that had dust on them, were out of breath, or were visibly shaken. For example, the one witness in the Dimitri's video that is interviewed by a reporter saying "who said plane? There was no plane. It was a bomb."

So, my take is, i don't give the people in that video much credibility -- it just doesn't sit quite right for me. The overwhelming dust clouds, which we can all see, speak much louder than these few people.

What do you think?

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If you go to the 30 second mark, the supposed survivor says he heard "floors" falling on him "boom boom boom". That would not have been the case since the vast majority of both buildings turned to dust.

Very good observation. How could these guys hear floors falling down over their heads given the supposed gravity driven collapse explanation of the official story? According to this theory, the upper sections of the towers, above the impact zones, acted as "pile drivers", smashing all the intact structure beneath them as they fell. Something about this "stairwell survivor" story fails to pass the smell test in my humble opinion.

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Ok this guy is saying there were no planes.  No planers are disinfo, period.

Not watching anymore.  Seems like a psyop meant as fly paper for 9/11 Truthers.  Seems Jesse Ventura got sucked into Judy Wood's BS about microwave weapons.

Just bullshit to get people to focus their energies on other BS theories instead of getting people woken up.
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THIS WHOLE THING IS DISINFO BULLSHIT!!

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Oh, OK - you say it is disinfo bull$hit. That is your opinion. And by the way, we are not talking about Judy Woods directed energy weapon theory. This is totally different. Not saying I agree with Khalezov's claims, but am open-minded. Why are you so openly hostile to thinking outside the box on this matter?

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I have seen this man's presentation before. It is very interesting and would go a long way toward explaining many unanswered questions.

One problem with his claims however, is that there were supposedly some survivors near the first floor who were in a stairwell. If I understand Khalezov's claims correctly, he is saying that the tremendous heat from the underground nukes traveled up the structure of the towers, and caused them to basically disintegrate. How could these men have survived if this is the case?

Could this story of these stairwell survivors be a fabrication designed to help cover up what Khalezov is describing? I know this is an area of speculation (questioning the veracity of 9/11 victims testimonies) most do not want to venture into, but we know the so-called "Harley Guy" was an actor. Who knows?

Here is a video about the stairwell survivors -

9/11 The Miracle of Stairwell B -

I may be a bit fuzzy on some of Khalezov's details. I will check out the videos posted at the top of the thread later.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWiCxz5ki80

not heat but super compressive forces within the crushed zone, the plasma is in the cavity ... the survivors could be explained due to the offset of the weapon to the bldg's
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