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« Reply #720 on: June 12, 2009, 01:16:34 PM »

For those with less money, alex should set up a fund where people could easily "loan" Alex money at 0% or 3% interest (to offset inflation), that way, alex could get the funds he needs without putting a hardship on those who don't have much money (or who are greedy)
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« Reply #721 on: June 12, 2009, 01:34:40 PM »

If I had a bunch a people talking junk about me in web site's forum, I would not be too motivated to donate.

Think about it.  Kevin does not have to rely on this site to get the current real news.  We do.  So by mouthing off about kt can surely backfire.

I doubt that he's reading this forum but if he is, he's probably taking our posts, rewriting them and selling them for $1000.

The guy is a crook! You shouldn't take crook's money.
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« Reply #722 on: June 13, 2009, 10:01:44 AM »

I'd like to hear what Jones said about Trudeau. I'm ready to be surprised but don't think I will be.

Please someone post the timestamp for this, please don't make me listen to the ghastly podcast for up to 3 hours.


Okay, I found it. The Info Warrior, June 11, Time: 44:30

Here's a link to the mp3: http://podcast.gcnlive.com/podcast//info_warrior/0611092.mp3
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« Reply #723 on: June 13, 2009, 11:21:50 AM »

Ugh...

From his book More Natural "Cures" Revealed page 11 reads:

"As a member of this secret society I have sat in private meetings with the heads of state from countries around the world. I have attended secret international business meetings where business leaders, politicians, and media moguls coerce together to create the new world order with global control over individual people everywhere. I have been shown and have seen with my own eyes secret government and corporate documents. I have heard with my own ears how Big Pharma, the food industry, and the oil industry are working together with governments and media outlets around the world. I have been in over sixty countries, yet there are no stamps of evidence in any of my passports. I have been to Area 51 in Nevada. (This top secret military installation is still denied to exist by the U.S. government.) This is where much of our technology has been developed. Area 51 houses most extraterrestrial artifacts, including a working spacecraft and dead alien bodies. I've seen these things with my own two eyes. As a member of this secret society I was used in covert operations around the world."

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http://books.google.com/books?id=sttZYgZOxZAC&pg=PA11&lpg=PA11&dq=%22kevin+trudeau%22+%22area+51%22&source=bl&ots=q23qZilPBq&sig=YUFZjXVpOF7y-qYtI4dW0Cwt1RI&hl=en&ei=D94zSsGaG5_cM_aOlJ4K&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9
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« Reply #724 on: June 13, 2009, 12:45:09 PM »

Alex should question Kevin Trudeau about Area 51 in his next interview.  That would be awesome. 

I think there might be some truth to what Kevin is saying about Area 51!!! 

It's true that the government denies its existence and yet we all know it's there.  They fly the workers in everyday from the Las Vegas airport for Pete's sake!

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« Reply #725 on: June 13, 2009, 01:22:46 PM »


Okay, I found it. The Info Warrior, June 11, Time: 44:30

Here's a link to the mp3: http://podcast.gcnlive.com/podcast//info_warrior/0611092.mp3

SO basically Alex says he LIKES HIM because he's against vaccines!

WTF ALEX?Huh We need to press ALEX on this issue! This is a copout!


Disgusting.


PS: Kevin Trudeau was at Area 51 and has seen ALIEN BODIES??? COME ON! This guy is  LIAR and a CROOK! And after all that, ALEX JONES still likes him???

Stuff like this makes me wanna puke and I question to whom I've donated over $600 in two years.
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« Reply #726 on: June 13, 2009, 01:40:08 PM »

If this guy is for real why doesn't he tell us something we don't know already? You can read about all the stuff he talks about in any number of books or on numerous web sites.
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« Reply #727 on: June 13, 2009, 02:33:02 PM »

Oh stop your whining.  Alex can keep tabs on every single person in the world, he works 12 hrs a day not 24. 
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« Reply #728 on: June 13, 2009, 03:26:18 PM »

Alex should question Kevin Trudeau about Area 51 in his next interview.  That would be awesome. 

I think there might be some truth to what Kevin is saying about Area 51!!! 

It's true that the government denies its existence and yet we all know it's there.  They fly the workers in everyday from the Las Vegas airport for Pete's sake!




Alex will NOT discuss aliens.
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« Reply #729 on: June 13, 2009, 04:57:15 PM »

Oh stop your whining.  Alex can keep tabs on every single person in the world, he works 12 hrs a day not 24. 

I do much less research than him and yet I figured it out and people here figured it out!

Ignorance of this is NO EXCUSE! Bermas showed him book and showed him how full of sh*t this guy is and Alex did NOTHING!

WTF Alex???
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« Reply #730 on: June 13, 2009, 06:00:56 PM »

here's what Alex said about Trudeau, despite Trudeau's lies:

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Kevin Trudeau isn't forcibly taxing me, and using my money to set up a world government, and trying to make my kids take cancer virus shots. He's against that, so he's better than the New World Order any day. So that's where I stand.

Personally, though I agree with Alex, that Trudeau is better than the NWO, it's only because Trudeau doesn't have the same kind of power that the NWO has. But the fact is Trudeau is like a Glenn Beck of the truth movement. He capitalizes off of true patriots by lying to them about himself and the enemy, and he does so shamelessly, and without the slightest show of guilt. Just like Beck, Trudeau seems to take great pleasure in selling people lies for his own benefit. I think we the anti-Trudeau crowd are simply saying that we don't want the truth and liberty movement to resort to the kinds of despicable, inhumane, and dishonest tactics that the NWO uses, in order to defeat them. We want to follow in the footsteps of George Washington, who ordered that British POWs be treated just as well as or better than his own revolutionary soldiers, simply to demonstrate their moral superiority over the monarchy.

And just for the record, what alex says specificly about Trudeau's questionable honesty is as follows:

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...he also mixes in some things I really question. Bermas brought me one of his books with him claiming to have been at Area 51 and all this and I have to say it's a little rediculous.  So, I may get Trudeau on soon and kind of interrogate him, but yeah Trudeau said he'd make this big donation, and we haven't seen it yet: Twenty five Thousand.

I think this is a great idea. If Trudeau is on Jones' show at all, I think he should be there to demonstrate the kinds of claims in the liberty movement we should only take with a grain of salt, by exposing his lies for what they are.

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I think it's unfortunate that in the beginning of the second "Natural Cures," just like you said, he get's into Area 51 and "I've seen the bodies"  It's a little rough for me, too, gotta tell ya. That's all I can say on that subject.

It's nice that the Area 51 lie has raised a flag of some color to the info warriors, but personally, I think, given their record on recognizing the tyranny of the NWO, Alex and Jason should be able to figure out that this lie has all the earmarks of an iceberg's tip, and that lies actually infest Trudeau's collection of deceptively truth-based claims like ticks and lice on a beautiful swan, and that Trudeau is ultimately loyal to the parasitic aspect of what we see, rather than the beautiful thing that's easier to notice. 

I should also like to clarify my post about when alex's comments about Trudeau were made.  It was in the second hour of the show.
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« Reply #731 on: June 13, 2009, 09:33:32 PM »

here's what Alex said about Trudeau, despite Trudeau's lies:



Thanks for the quotes, hideous.

I love it "He's better than the NWO" - talk about faint praise...so, my neighbour's a racist, but he's better than Hitler so I guess he's ok..

The point missed by both of them was that the lies about Area 51 were not some anomaly, but they were in fact Trudeau's modus operandi. This is how he operates. He tells ridiculous lies to create a false image of himself to sell whatever crap he's selling.

Once you see this everything makes sense. The interview with Alex was pure bullshit from start to finish, and the scam product there was "GIN". This pattern can be observed in all of Trudeau's schemes...

I hope he does re-appear on the show so we can all call in and have some fun with the conman crook.
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« Reply #732 on: June 13, 2009, 09:55:48 PM »

Thanks for the quotes, hideous.

I love it "He's better than the NWO" - talk about faint praise...so, my neighbour's a racist, but he's better than Hitler so I guess he's ok..

The point missed by both of them was that the lies about Area 51 were not some anomaly, but they were in fact Trudeau's modus operandi. This is how he operates. He tells ridiculous lies to create a false image of himself to sell whatever crap he's selling.

Once you see this everything makes sense. The interview with Alex was pure bullshit from start to finish, and the scam product there was "GIN". This pattern can be observed in all of Trudeau's schemes...

I hope he does re-appear on the show so we can all call in and have some fun with the conman crook.

when is Kevin Trudeau coming on next? I'm gonna help Alex interrogate him
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« Reply #733 on: June 13, 2009, 10:00:16 PM »

when is Kevin Trudeau coming on next? I'm gonna help Alex interrogate him

I don't know - probably never - he might be lying scum but he's not a complete idiot.
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« Reply #734 on: June 13, 2009, 11:58:57 PM »

then why does he state as his conclusion in Endgame the elites will "travel the comos"?
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« Reply #735 on: June 14, 2009, 12:07:28 AM »

then why does he state as his conclusion in Endgame the elites will "travel the comos"?

Because that what they say what they plan to do. That doesn't really have anything to do with Trudeau though.
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« Reply #736 on: June 14, 2009, 12:24:33 AM »

He is also not a whole lot different than Alex. They have both made a lot of money feeding us the stuff that we already want to hear.

Alex doesn't go around saying he got it from secret sources from an mystery inside group it came from. Alex doesn't go around claiming he's a billionaire, like a horny teenager trying trick stupid girls into bed, net worth speaking Alex is probably more wealthy than Trudeau, even if that mattered for anything thing.
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« Reply #737 on: June 14, 2009, 12:37:44 AM »

I am surprised more of you don't find it questionable that Alex would even have this guy on his show to begin with.
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« Reply #738 on: June 14, 2009, 12:45:00 AM »

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What a goof ball.

"I'm been to Area 51..."

Been to Bilderberg too have you? Yeah suuuure.

Case cased in mind on this guy. Will reopen the case if new information is presented.
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« Reply #739 on: June 14, 2009, 01:06:26 AM »

I am surprised more of you don't find it questionable that Alex would even have this guy on his show to begin with.

Hehe, well I certainly found it questionable, and made my questions known here on this forum both during the interview and ever since. I suspect it almost got me banned here. I even called in to Bermas' show 2 days later to present my questions, and in so doing I think I may have been the first to alert Bermas that Trudeau's Global Information Network venture is indeed a pyramid scheme. The way I view it, I was questioning Alex for both Alex's own good and the good of those who share his work with others. We don't need Alex getting mixed up with Trudeau. Not now, and hopefully not ever again.

My initial conclusion, and the conclusion I still hold to, is that Alex was either fooled by Trudeau and his stories, or he had struck up some sort of business arrangement with the con so gave him an easy ride and feigned interest. Given the fact that I have seen no evidence since the interview that Alex is partnering with Trudeau on any of Trudeau's "businesses", it appears Alex was fooled.

Which brings me back to your point, which I agree with. It certainly WAS questionable that Alex would even have the guy on his show. I hate the idea of Alex being fooled, but I suppose he is allowed a mistake every so often so long as he doesn't repeat this same mistake.

If Alex ever decides to have Trudeau on again, I suspect he will lose many fans and customers. I'll be one of them.

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« Reply #740 on: June 14, 2009, 04:47:34 AM »

This guy seems like a complete crook, and am amazed still that Alex had him on. This leads to some serious questions about Alex. Someone should phone in on the show and question his decision to have Trudeau on the show.
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« Reply #741 on: June 14, 2009, 06:26:41 AM »

He is also not a whole lot different than Alex. They have both made a lot of money feeding us the stuff that we already want to hear.

Exposing the NWO is not a bandwagon that Alex has just alighted upon to sell his latest scam, like Trudeau. This has been Alex's life work pretty much and many people here heard most of this stuff for the first time from him.
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« Reply #742 on: June 18, 2009, 11:26:10 AM »

The point is that it is extremely unlikely that Kevin Trudeau has any sort of contact with the bilderberg "elites" - why would they talk to infomercial man? This claim was made to sell his new scheme "globalinformationnetwork.com" which is a scam that will cost you $1000 to enter then $150 per month - and that's just the entry level membership. Total fraud, total scam.

The point is also that the November 2008 court judgement which is the most recent update to the case involving Kevin Trudeau does not ban him from "any media appearance" as he claimed during the interview with Alex. It only bans him from infomercials.

Note to Alex: There is no ban on Kevin Trudeau writing anything in his books or saying anything he wants - this claim by Trudeau was dishonest. Again, it is only infomercials that he is banned from participating in. And he might not be running child kidnapping rings but that does not make him good! He's still low dishonest scum and not really the sort to be associating with.

Below is a pdf of the aforementioned case, if you have the fraudster back on please be sure to ask him where it states that he is banned from media appearances and writing pathetic crap in his books.

http://www.casewatch.org/ftc/enforcements/trudeau/book/supplemental_order.pdf
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« Reply #743 on: June 18, 2009, 12:20:29 PM »

     This guy would fit it with the builderburgs.  He's a take the baby's candy, pop a grandma in the mouth type person. Kevin Trudeau is not his real name. He had criminal charges under his real name at the time. He's in the running for Biggest Douch World compititon.
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« Reply #744 on: June 18, 2009, 07:55:43 PM »

The point is that it is extremely unlikely that Kevin Trudeau has any sort of contact with the bilderberg "elites" - why would they talk to infomercial man? This claim was made to sell his new scheme "globalinformationnetwork.com" which is a scam that will cost you $1000 to enter then $150 per month - and that's just the entry level membership. Total fraud, total scam.

The point is also that the November 2008 court judgement which is the most recent update to the case involving Kevin Trudeau does not ban him from "any media appearance" as he claimed during the interview with Alex. It only bans him from infomercials.

Note to Alex: There is no ban on Kevin Trudeau writing anything in his books or saying anything he wants - this claim by Trudeau was dishonest. Again, it is only infomercials that he is banned from participating in. And he might not be running child kidnapping rings but that does not make him good! He's still low dishonest scum and not really the sort to be associating with.

Below is a pdf of the aforementioned case, if you have the fraudster back on please be sure to ask him where it states that he is banned from media appearances and writing pathetic crap in his books.

http://www.casewatch.org/ftc/enforcements/trudeau/book/supplemental_order.pdf

This topic has been discussed, beaten and stabbed like a thousand times already... do we really need another Trudeau thread on PP forums? Enough is enough...
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« Reply #745 on: June 19, 2009, 12:24:31 PM »

This topic has been discussed, beaten and stabbed like a thousand times already... do we really need another Trudeau thread on PP forums? Enough is enough...

I suppose it just wont die, but I think with head-shots like my above post, we can put the zombie topic in the ground. But you're right, Trudeau zombies are notoriously difficult to "kill off".
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« Reply #746 on: July 13, 2009, 12:14:42 PM »

He was member of the Bildenbergs, it makes sense what he say.
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« Reply #747 on: July 13, 2009, 12:18:27 PM »

Whatever happened to Bob Lazar who apparently back engineered craft at Area 51???
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« Reply #748 on: July 13, 2009, 12:21:15 PM »

Are you saying Area 51 doesn't exist? 

Because I have to tell you... it obviously does exist. 

Take a trip to Nevada and try to get past those fences....  see what happens...

I still think Kevin Trudeau was one of Alex's best interviews and nobody has given any solid reasons why they hate him so much or why he shouldn't be on Alex's show again.

I mean, if you say Trudeau is a liar, but don't present any evidence, then are you any better than the mainstream media???

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« Reply #749 on: July 13, 2009, 12:22:27 PM »

Nevermind I found him!

http://www.boblazar.com/closed/index.html

Pretty interesting things on here.  I remember talking to the guy 15 years ago seemed legit but alas so do many that are effin crazy.
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« Reply #750 on: July 13, 2009, 12:34:30 PM »

Are you saying Area 51 doesn't exist? 

Because I have to tell you... it obviously does exist. 

Take a trip to Nevada and try to get past those fences....  see what happens...

I still think Kevin Trudeau was one of Alex's best interviews and nobody has given any solid reasons why they hate him so much or why he shouldn't be on Alex's show again.

I mean, if you say Trudeau is a liar, but don't present any evidence, then are you any better than the mainstream media???



Who said area 51 doesn't exist?

The issue is he claims he was there, but does not expound on the reason for being their. He is simply "bragging" to establish "credibility". Why would they be giving tours of dead alien bodies to people who have absolutely no reason or skills needed to be there? It just like he claimed to be a billionaire, but he buys his suits from Burlington coat factory. If you are so confident that this guy is legit, go join his "information network" after all $1000 dollars would be a small investment, as it will make you a billionaire and give all the secrets in the world. But just don't come here to complain about it.
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« Reply #751 on: July 13, 2009, 12:39:03 PM »

It doesn't matter to me if this guy is Jesse James incarnated, if he has truths get them out there.
How many guys have we been witnesed to who have done some dirty , nasty shiiite, but in the end come clean. Toss all the stones ya want to , but if T, has some truth in what he is saying give it a chance to surface.

If he is full of shiiite it will be exposed.

Area 51 is legit. Or folks just want to accept it.
 My uncle worked for the Gov., he travelled to sightings and gave them cover stories, made them out to be mass illusions or whatever. Before he died he came clean. " I did it for  what I beleived was for the good of the nation, to stop panic. I beleived in what I was doing, I was wrong." Deathbed confession... Camp Verde Arizona, 1966. James T. Comstock.

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« Reply #752 on: July 13, 2009, 01:22:42 PM »

Shopping at Burlington coat factory makes Trudeau a liar???  I really don't follow the argument...

I'm not rich, so I'm not joining Trudeau's website.  I don't even know if it really costs $1000 or not.

You really sound like you hate Trudeau but have still not given any solid reasons. 

You also sound like you think anyone who believes in aliens cannot possibly be a patiot....

Another argument I don't follow....   

Not everyone on this forum is a Christian who thinks anyone who talks about aliens is evil...

What has Trudeau done that makes you hate him so much?Huh

He never said he got the "tour" of Area 51.  He says he's been there.  Who knows why!?!? 

I imagine that out of the 5,000 (Rothkopf) or so elite on this planet, many have seen it as well.  Whatever is there, I'm sure they know the truth...  We can only speculate. 

I don't see why his statements about Area 51 makes him unbelievable...

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« Reply #753 on: July 13, 2009, 04:24:23 PM »

Shopping at Burlington coat factory makes Trudeau a liar???  I really don't follow the argument...
I used to get my suits and coats from them, because they were "cheap", but everything they sell falls apart, and it is cheaper and better to shop just about anywhere else. Anyone who has money will not shop there. I know because I had they same suit he was wearing in the lobby photo when the article about him was on pp.tv

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I'm not rich, so I'm not joining Trudeau's website.  I don't even know if it really costs $1000 or not.

BS anyone can scrounge up 1000 dollars, and what is 1000 when he claims it will give you all you need to become a billionaire.

www.globalinformationnetwork.com
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You should consider joining the Global Information Network if you want to learn how to:

    * Make serious money
    * Develop global wealth
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    * Achieve financial independence
    * Raise $10,000 USD CASH in 24 hours"
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The reason you don't want to join, because deep down you know he is complete garbage.

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You really sound like you hate Trudeau but have still not given any solid reasons.  

Hate is a strong word, but I hate how anyone would profit on someones gullibility.

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You also sound like you think anyone who believes in aliens cannot possibly be a patiot....
I don't believe in aliens, but for the sake of argument, I am going to pretend for a minute they DO exist and they ARE in area 51. Now answer, why the hell did who put that line in his book. For someone who gets off of revealing secrets of being on the "inside", without retribution for some reason, why did he not expound on that. Couldn't he have revealed some more information that everyone doesn't already know (whether or not it is phony).
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Another argument I don't follow....  

Not everyone on this forum is a Christian who thinks anyone who talks about aliens is evil...
That is called a strawman, your dishonesty is highlighted by the use of it.
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What has Trudeau done that makes you hate him so much?Huh

I don't hate him him as a person, I hate that he preys on gullible people who are already suffering in one way or another.


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« Reply #754 on: July 13, 2009, 04:39:30 PM »

Since we are so flush with money, how bout helping JT out.  He has done so much for patriots.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=111225.new#top
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« Reply #755 on: July 18, 2009, 07:00:35 PM »

     I have read the majority of the postings here about Kevin Trudeau and his Global Information Network.  The general consensus is that Kevin is a scammer and can't be trusted.  I am not going to argue this point or defend him.  I have read through the website, www.globalinformationnetwork.com, and the claims are quite unbelieveable.  Since signing up as an affiliate was free, I decided to do so to see if I could learn more about the program.  As an affiliate you really can't get into much on the website, so I decided to pay the fees and sign up as a member.  I did this knowing full well that this may not work out as advertised.  I am doing this partly as a service to others to report whether this is legitimate and partly out of curiosity.  If it is legitimate the fees paid are insignificant compared to the information given.
      Based on what I have seen thus far, I am actually seeing signs that this may not be a scam.  My credit card has yet to be charged for the fees after a week, they answer emails, they actually have physical meetings planned for affiliates/members, and they have followed through with the updates they said they would have.  Given this, I still can't say that the information given will be as valuable as advertised; this is yet to be seen.  I will post any pertinent updates on this forum and on my YouTube channel, bluestealth1984.  I won't get into specific details about future information given since it is supposed to be confidential, but I will report whether what is given is genuine. 
     If anyone here has the finanical means and the curiosity to join the GIN and check it out for themselves, you can use my member affiliate code 1500452.  Supposedly I will get $200 per member that joins under this code.  No, I am not trying to get rich by getting people to spend money joining the GIN under my code.  It is a test of the GIN to see if they follow through with their reimbursement program.  Like I said previously, if you have the interest and the money to spend you can use my code to join since a code it necessary to sign up anyway.
     Again, I will post any important updates as things develop in the coming months.  I will report anything that confirms the GIN as legitimate or not.
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« Reply #756 on: July 19, 2009, 07:19:13 PM »

     I am surprised no one has responded to this.  I would like to hear other people's thoughts on this and whether there are other people here that have signed up as members.
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« Reply #758 on: July 19, 2009, 07:22:08 PM »

I don't know Kevin Trudeau, nor familiar with his work and I generally have a rule that if someone is charging moolah for the truth then it probably isn't true.
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« Reply #759 on: July 19, 2009, 07:26:51 PM »

Sh1t is a scam! period Google Kevin Trudeau scam  Undecided
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