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You people just put ENTIRELY too much time into knocking this guy for trying to make some money... If he were selling the amazing TIME MACHINE from hell, and charged you $750,000, who cares??! If you buy it, you're the one that needs some evaluating, no? I think people can make up their minds for themselves, but why crucify the man? If you feel you were wronged by him or have a real legal case against the man, take it up in court. Until then, it's business as usual. He'll continue making money, and you'll continue whining about it! Life goes on...
Terribly sorry...yes it's true the guy just wants to be left alone to rip people off in peace..I'm starting to feel sorry for him, everywhere he goes people point and laugh. "I've gone all the way to Nevis, I've barred the feds from the site, I've set it up so I do not need to deliver anything at all for people's money, there are multiple levels of membership so if people feel that they haven't got what they paid for then it's their fault for not purchasing the next level, and lawsuits are banned..and people are still complaining?? And why doesn't anyone believe that I went to Bilderberg??" |
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« Reply #601 on: May 30, 2009, 09:13:18 PM » |
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Well, Kevin's out of luck getting any money from me, at the moment, I am sending it to the Alex Jones moneybomb on June 11!  |
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Terribly sorry...yes it's true the guy just wants to be left alone to rip people off in peace..I'm starting to feel sorry for him, everywhere he goes people point and laugh. "I've gone all the way to Nevis, I've barred the feds from the site, I've set it up so I do not need to deliver anything at all for people's money, there are multiple levels of membership so if people feel that they haven't got what they paid for then it's their fault for not purchasing the next level, and lawsuits are banned..and people are still complaining?? And why doesn't anyone believe that I went to Bilderberg??"
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I think I was a bit unfair with Trudeau in my previous posts. Even though he's a con-man of sorts, he still has guts to put out some good info out there and make it a best seller, so props to him. I'm still not giving him $1000 of course, but I hope he gets enough money just so he can keep moving in this infowarrior direction |
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THANK YOU. My point, exactly!!
No, your point was that Trudeau should be left alone to rip people off in peace. Q, everything you have posted is either speculation or purely opinion. You have provided no facts except those that Kevin, himself, disclaims on his own web site. Anything else you have to say about him that we don't already know? I almost missed the ironic sarcasm, my mistake, yes I agree it's hilarious that this time to avoid any trouble Trudeau tells you that you're going to be ripped off beforehand. Btw, this thread is full of facts and info about Trudeau's lies and scams...but you're pretty much the last Trudeau apologist/cultist left so make sure you switch the lights off when you leave...but there's one born every day so...  |
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No, your point was that Trudeau should be left alone to rip people off in peace. I almost missed the ironic sarcasm, my mistake, yes I agree it's hilarious that this time to avoid any trouble Trudeau tells you that you're going to be ripped off beforehand. Btw, this thread is full of facts and info about Trudeau's lies and scams...but you're pretty much the last Trudeau apologist/cultist left so make sure you switch the lights off when you leave...but there's one born every day so... When intelligence leaves someone, they're left to name-calling and witch hunts. You honestly feel better about yourself after that post, don't you?  Glad you do buddy! |
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What a load of crap, JT. Have you looked at the case against Trudeau and his ridiculously missold weight loss book, the one that got him fined $5M then increased to $37M? I thought not, maybe you should before commenting on it - a novel idea around here for sure - but worth considering...the case was a total slam dunk for misselling, misrepresentation and false misleading claims etc., which is why (what a surprise) truthless Trudeau cravenly capitulated to it and didn't even defend it.
By your rationale most of Jones' sponsors - and Jones himself - would be sued falsely and robbed, but they're not because they run ethical businesses* and do not missell their products. I'm not saying that the FTC is ethical itself necessarily but they cannot get away with baseless lawsuits as you seem to imply.
So here's a question for you. You come on here and defend this lying conman who blatantly lied on the AJ Show about his media ban, (he lied about pretty much everything else aswell) which is undeniable and there in the audio archives...so my question is...WTF, JT??
*I have some reservations about My Solar Backup which I've posted about before.
That is a pretty strong start up... when you consider that the subject at that point in the thread was the Cures book... in which all was ethical on a 101 level. All I did was point out the fact that the FTC is a bunch of crooked bastards looking to make a bunch of money on other people's success. As has been pointed out by others... name one injured person who's benefiting from the fines levied against Kevin Trudeau...? To hear you tell it there are millions marching in the streets screaming for class-action justice... when in fact there is no such thing happening. You then interpret my attacks on the FTC as an unbridled groupie-esque defense of KT... Out of whole cloth, you INVENT my rationale, painting me as some kind of blind follower to hear you tell it... how deceitfully clever of you... Then you bring Alex into the mix saying he runs an ethical business, which he does by the way... and then say that your "invented rational for me" would suggest that Alex's endeavors would have the FTC wolves salivating. But... Alex doesn't make a drop in the bucket along side what Kevin Trudeau has made in his endeavors. Alex doesn't even show up on the radar screen by comparison, and think of what would happen if they tried, there would be little cash to gain and an alternative media driven world of hurt to reap... Then in your cleverly disguised little line at the bottom, you take a poke at Alex anyway... as once again you bring up my solar backup... which has done nothing unethical, they merely "put it all together" in a package with detailed instructions ready to hook up and go as a backup electrical system, as their name implies, and they charge folks for the cost of the components, plus time and effort. Oh, I forgot, socialists don't like that sort of thing... please forgive me. With that said, if Alex was making hundreds of millions of dollars in his enterprise... you can bet your bottom dollar the FTC would be banging at the door! Which was the point of my previous post namely... that Kevin is too successful, and won't join the club... and I point out that the FTC are a bunch of crooks, and the enforcement arm for a bigger group of crooks who feed off of the success of others while creating nothing that benefits the culture... You chose however to make your post, about THE ME you tried to invent... with only one sniveling line about the FTC in whole thing... You set the parameters by framing the debate outside of the subject of the post you were answering to a pre-drawn conclusion... making only passing reference... and then attempted to twist the knife. Strike two Q. Like Donnay said in so many words, where are all these injured people who are benefiting from all this money Trudeau is to pay in fines to the Federal Trade Commission... eh??? --Oldyoti "He that would make his own liberty secure,
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In 1999, the five networks, including Fox News and CNN, received $569 million in advertising revenue from drug companies, according to TNS Media Intelligence. But by 2004, advertising revenue nearly tripled to $1.5 billion, according to Ms Lieberman. ABC Gives Drug Industry View on AIDS Drugs Disputehttp://www.fair.org/activism/aids-africa-abc.htmlThe Disney-ABC Television Group also manages the Radio Disney Network, general interest and non-fiction book imprint Hyperion, as well the Company’s equity interest in Lifetime Entertainment Services and A&E Television Networks.(Partners with Hearst...the yellow journalists) http://www.infomercialscams.com/scams/natural_cureshe rants about the government, What it is mostly is Mr. Trudeau ranting and raving about the establishment and their dishonest behaviors and how they rip off the public. This guy is scary, at least muggers on the street wear masks. That quote is scary...the lady is bitching that her mother ordered the book...like Trudeau held a gun to her head.  I purchased this book. A lot of what he says is true in this book, but, I must say, there was nothing new in this particular book that I didn't already know. All of the information in his book can be obtained free, via Internet. So i got the book along time ago, and all he tells you to do is eat organic. Thats all this book is. you dont need to buy the book. the web site is a better choice, but still every cure starts with ... eat organic, get your body Ph to 7.7 or whatever. the book just tells you to go to the website. Oh, and they aren't all complaints. All the complaints so far seem like exactly what Kevin talks about in his book that there are companies paid by the FTC and the FDA to debunk anything that has to do with natural cures. Anyone who actually had problems with the newsletter just means your an idiot and you told the operator that you wanted to receive it and now you are changing your mind. I worked for a financial and an order processor, seen it over and over again. Anyone reading this in hopes that there is natural cures there are! I have tried what was suggested in the book and go figure I felt better! Stop eating the crap fast foods and crap processed foods the FDA is approving and the drugs they are approving! When a disclaimer goes on and on about a drug and how it could cause death! Run! Wake up America! I read Kevin's Trudeau book from page to page. As far as I know, lot of Nutritionist and holistic health professionals say the same, that chemicals in the food contribute indirectly for a person to get sick. The dose makes the poison e.g. eat fast food is not healthy. I have 2 years that I avoid products containing chemicals, e.g. high fructose corn syrup, drink filtered water instead of sodas, and I don't suffer allergies anymore, or get sick. I cancel the newsletters and website but I think all the money I have saved on doctors and prescriptions drugs. I don't know this guy personally so can't judge someone but only take facts. thanks who ever posted something negative about the books that kevin trudeau has advertised. Obviously have no idea whats going on. I must have read 10 article to which I can't believe. No one Listened to the infomercial correctly. I order everything hes put out and I have never not recieved a product. Further more, I tried everything he suggested and it worked. Even the Weight Loss Program. In less than 2 months I lost 30 lbs. And he can only suggest he is not a doctor to direct you on what you should take for whatever diseases you may have. And the newletter is not something you receive by mail its access to the newsletter on the actual site. Wow! that just goes to show you the ignorance in this country. That last lady goes on to comment on how dumbed down Americans are. Since when is ABC or the FTC watching out for your best interest? Where was the FTC when China poisoned our pets? Where is the FTC against mercury in HFCS? You people are incredible. Trudeau is selling a hardcover book for $15. Go match that at Border's. And, the Judge who ruled, said that Trudeau "misrepresented" the info in his book. But, where? It's a book filled with natural cures. Trudeau never claims that he discovered or formulated any of the info. He admits it is natural cures he has "collected". It's a scam because the Federal Government and the Mainstream Media say so...and their info is always spot on. They never lie or falsely persecute. |
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That is a pretty strong start up... when you consider that the subject at that point in the thread was the Cures book... in which all was ethical on a 101 level. All I did was point out the fact that the FTC is a bunch of crooked bastards looking to make a bunch of money on other people's success. As has been pointed out by others... name one injured person who's benefiting from the fines levied against Kevin Trudeau...? To hear you tell it there are millions marching in the streets screaming for class-action justice... when in fact there is no such thing happening. You then interpret my attacks on the FTC as an unbridled groupie-esque defense of KT...
Out of whole cloth, you INVENT my rationale, painting me as some kind of blind follower to hear you tell it... how deceitfully clever of you... Then you bring Alex into the mix saying he runs an ethical business, which he does by the way... and then say that your "invented rational for me" would suggest that Alex's endeavors would have the FTC wolves salivating. But... Alex doesn't make a drop in the bucket along side what Kevin Trudeau has made in his endeavors. Alex doesn't even show up on the radar screen by comparison, and think of what would happen if they tried, there would be little cash to gain and an alternative media driven world of hurt to reap...
Then in your cleverly disguised little line at the bottom, you take a poke at Alex anyway... as once again you bring up my solar backup... which has done nothing unethical, they merely "put it all together" in a package with detailed instructions ready to hook up and go as a backup electrical system, as their name implies, and they charge folks for the cost of the components, plus time and effort. Oh, I forgot, socialists don't like that sort of thing... please forgive me.
With that said, if Alex was making hundreds of millions of dollars in his enterprise... you can bet your bottom dollar the FTC would be banging at the door! Which was the point of my previous post namely... that Kevin is too successful, and won't join the club... and I point out that the FTC are a bunch of crooks, and the enforcement arm for a bigger group of crooks who feed off of the success of others while creating nothing that benefits the culture... You chose however to make your post, about THE ME you tried to invent... with only one sniveling line about the FTC in whole thing... You set the parameters by framing the debate outside of the subject of the post you were answering to a pre-drawn conclusion... making only passing reference... and then attempted to twist the knife. Strike two Q.
Like Donnay said in so many words, where are all these injured people who are benefiting from all this money Trudeau is to pay in fines to the Federal Trade Commission... eh???
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I'll concede you one point in your exaggerated and reactionary analysis and that is that you were referring to the case re the cures book and not the weight loss book as I thought for some reason. You failed to answer the question though: Why are you defending a person who came on the AJ Show and blatantly lied about his media ban? And GIN..what do you think about Truthless Trudeau's latest absurd scam, and the timing of his appearance, the ridiculous claims about hobnobing with the Bilderbergers to plug the scam - this isn't difficult to figure out is it?...unless the ego is involved of course... ..Haha was that some petty power trippery in there too? Strike 2Q..or am I wrong?..strike me down and I'll become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.. |
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Since I'm having a difficult time leaving Alex and this forum behind, I wanted to add just a couple items to the debate here: 1) First analysis I’ve seen (outside this forum) on Trudeau’s new Global Information Network pyramid scheme: http://www.fightmonks.com/Kevin-Trudeau-Article-SCAM-.html2) From Thursday’s Inforwarrior Show, go to exactly three minutes into this clip to get Bermas’ answers to (a) is Trudeau really an insider, and (b) is the Global Information Network a pyramid scheme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K4zg-lAyLYYou rock Q! To everyone else, you better start thinking MORE for yourselves. ~jg PS - JT, where did Sane go? |
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Since I'm having a difficult time leaving Alex and this forum behind, I wanted to add just a couple items to the debate here: 1) First analysis I’ve seen (outside this forum) on Trudeau’s new Global Information Network pyramid scheme: http://www.fightmonks.com/Kevin-Trudeau-Article-SCAM-.html2) From Thursday’s Inforwarrior Show, go to exactly three minutes into this clip to get Bermas’ answers to (a) is Trudeau really an insider, and (b) is the Global Information Network a pyramid scheme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K4zg-lAyLYYou rock Q! To everyone else, you better start thinking MORE for yourselves. ~jg PS - JT, where did Sane go? Cheers John and thanks for the links. That's right, people should be proud that this forum was the first place to expose the latest Trudeau scam "GIN". Because of the efforts of people here, this stupid scam may not even get off the ground. |
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Cheers John and thanks for the links.
That's right, people should be proud that this forum was the first place to expose the latest Trudeau scam "GIN". Because of the efforts of people here, this stupid scam may not even get off the ground.
Because of you Q I decided to buy another one of Kevin T's new books. It is another power packed book that will awaken new people to the truth. It will be hard to top Natural Cures because of the great awakening that book created for the general masses in the U.S. Rock |
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Because of you Q I decided to buy another one of Kevin T's new books. It is another power packed book that will awaken new people to the truth.
It will be hard to top Natural Cures because of the great awakening that book created for the general masses in the U.S.
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That money will go to the FTC to pay the fine...if you want to be sure of giving money to Truthless then you need to sign up for GIN..Hahaha
It's money well spent. I am online right now looking for a deal to buy 20 Natural Cure books to put on the shelf of my practice. We need to wake up people using high profile media figures. I will slip an AJ video into the cover to drive the point home. Thanks Kevin for standing up to the government and getting such a great book out to millions of people! Rock |
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It's money well spent.
I am online right now looking for a deal to buy 20 Natural Cure books to put on the shelf of my practice. We need to wake up people using high profile media figures. I will slip an AJ video into the cover to drive the point home. Thanks Kevin for standing up to the government and getting such a great book out to millions of people!
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Since I'm having a difficult time leaving Alex and this forum behind, I wanted to add just a couple items to the debate here: 1) First analysis I’ve seen (outside this forum) on Trudeau’s new Global Information Network pyramid scheme: http://www.fightmonks.com/Kevin-Trudeau-Article-SCAM-.html2) From Thursday’s Inforwarrior Show, go to exactly three minutes into this clip to get Bermas’ answers to (a) is Trudeau really an insider, and (b) is the Global Information Network a pyramid scheme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K4zg-lAyLYYou rock Q! To everyone else, you better start thinking MORE for yourselves. ~jg PS - JT, where did Sane go? No one here is blindly buying into Kevin's scheme, accept one of the troll boy's... Most here can see that the federal reserve is just such a scheme that has operated for 97 years under the color of law... and are quite wary... yet not saying that Kevin's scheme is such a scheme... The idea that Kevin is a Bilderberg insider was floated by trolls here and it took on a life of it's own... even after I and others here pointed out that in the interview, Trudeau himself only said that he has socialized, and is friends with some of the members and never called himself an "insider"... The opinion of most here is exactly what Jason says at 4:15 of the video you linked to... Sane is here as always, we are merely training 2 new moderators showing them the ropes, so to speak... Sorry to hear you are leaving over such a trivial matter as a troll created controversy ... I thought your commitment to the Liberty/Truth cause was deeper, but I have been wrong before, and continue to learn. I will courteously turn the lights out on your IP after you leave. --Oldyoti "When we are planning for posterity, we ought
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Here again, I'm going to ask...If Trudeau is such a scumbag, and his commercials and products are such an obvious scam...Why did all of these networks take his money and allow him to rip off the American people? Why isn't the government going after them in regards to Trudeau? Why aren't they responsible to their customers for the money that was lost? What kind of business practice is it to take money from a snake oil salesman and give him access to your customers? Do they not review the products they allow to be advertised? I heard Bermas talking about why people trust commentators like Glenn Beck or Sean Hannity or Keith Olbermann. "Because he is on the same station as their favorite show." Those Networks gave Kevin Trudeau instant credibility in the eye of the public. Also, why is Trudeau banned? QVC pulled the same shit and they're still on...
QVC pays $7.5M to Settle FTC Charges over Deceptive Claims on Supplements and Cosmeceuticals http://nutrisuplaw.com/qvc-pays-75m-settle-ftc-charges-deceptive-ad-claims/The agency alleged that QVC violated a 2000 FTC order barring it from making deceptive claims for dietary supplements. According to the Commission, QVC aired approximately 200 programs in which false and unsubstantiated claims were made about For Women Only weight-loss pills; Lite Bites weight-loss food bars and shakes; and Bee-Alive Royal Jelly energy supplements. In addition, the complaint charged that QVC violated Section 5 of the FTC Act by making unsubstantiated claims about Lipofactor Cellulite Target Lotion. That's right... a lotion to make you lose weight. But, Trudeau is worse. He sells a book that advises couch potatoes to, at least, get a trampoline to bounce on while they watch TV and snack on fruits and veggies instead of potato chips. For that he deserves a huge defamation campaign, incredible fine and banishment from marketing. But, the Butt Cream Pitchmen have 1/5th the fine and are allowed to continue their marketing practices. Now, why wouldn't the FTC want to drop the hammer on QVC? Possibly because QVC is owned by Liberty Media Corp...who also owns Discovery Channel. Ever heard of the Franklin Coverup Scandal? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Coverup_ScandalAllegations linking the Franklin Credit Union to a child prostitution ring began to surface in 1988, during an unrelated federal investigation into financial malfeasance at the credit union. News of the abuse allegations made national headlines when the New York Times reported on December 18, 1988, that the "Omaha office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation acknowledged that it had independently received reports of sexual abuse and that they were a subject of its own criminal inquiry into the credit union affair."[1]
On June 29, 1989, six months after the Franklin story was reported in the New York Times, news of a child sex ring with ties to high-level U.S. politicians was reported by the Washington Times in an article bearing the headline "Homosexual Prostitution Inquiry ensnares VIPs with Reagan, Bush."[2] The Washington Times article, by Paul M. Rodriguez and George Archibald, alleged that key officials of the Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush administrations were connected to an elaborate Washington, D.C. male prostitution ring, and reported that two of these prostitutes even entered the White House late at night. The allegations included, among other things, charges of "abduction and use of minors for sexual perversion." The Washington Times article made no mention of a possible connection to the Franklin case. There is an excellent documentary on this called Conspiracy of Silence. More rumors of a coverup surfaced when a national television broadcast of Conspiracy of Silence, an hour-long documentary film about the scandal, was cancelled unexpectedly. The film also attempts to expose a connection to the Washington D.C. prostitution ring, as well as evidence of a coverup. The film was scheduled to air May 3, 1994, on the Discovery Channel and was listed in the April 3rd - May 6th edition of TV Guide magazine, but the broadcast was pulled for reasons that remain unclear. Conspiracy Of Silencehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggxiBWv4xYE
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« Reply #623 on: May 31, 2009, 04:17:55 PM » |
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No one here is blindly buying into Kevin's scheme, accept one of the troll boy's... Most here can see that the federal reserve is just such a scheme that has operated for 97 years under the color of law... and are quite wary... yet not saying that Kevin's scheme is such a scheme...
The idea that Kevin is a Bilderberg insider was floated by trolls here and it took on a life of it's own... even after I and others here pointed out that in the interview, Trudeau himself only said that he has socialized, and is friends with some of the members and never called himself an "insider"... The opinion of most here is exactly what Jason says at 4:15 of the video you linked to...
Thanks for your very kind and informative reply JT. Outside of Sane, you continue to be my favorite moderator. Now, I have to correct you on what you say here, because Trudeau DOES proclaim himself to be something more than simply a socializer and/or friend to Bilderberg members/insiders. He makes these claims throughout his book "More Natural 'Cures' Revealed" (just take a look here: http://books.google.com/books?id=sttZYgZOxZAC&printsec=frontcover&dq=kevin+trudeau#PPP7,M1), and he made these claims during his interview with Alex this past Tuesday. Did he specifically say he was an insider, or a Bilderberger, well you may have an argument there...I'll have to look closer. But Trudeau certainly implies that he is something akin to being an insider. And more importantly, whether what Trudeau implies is true or not SHOULD be a primary question that Alex, Jason, the mods, and all others have. The guy's track record isn't too good. You have to admit at least that. Sane is here as always, we are merely training 2 new moderators showing them the ropes, so to speak...
That's good to hear. I was concerned, as I hadn't seen him active since May 26th. Sane is not only the most helpful moderator who has contributed the most to this forum bar none, he is arguably the best and most thorough researcher of any mod or member in this forum's history. Sorry to hear you are leaving over such a trivial matter as a troll created controversy ...
The trolls have nothing to do with my leaving, or potentially leaving (I'm having some second thoughts ) The decision is more based on my suspicion that Alex is now "in bed" with the man in question, Kevin Trudeau, and is complicit in Trudeau's GIN new pyramid scheme. I truly hope I'm wrong about this, because I think it would destroy Alex's credibility. It would also destroy the credibility of us infowarriors who share his work when trying to wake others up. We need Alex now more than ever. We don't need his credibility damaged. Can you honestly tell me that I'm wrong to suspect this? Can you honestly tell me that Alex has no future business plans with Kevin Trudeau? I thought your commitment to the Liberty/Truth cause was deeper, but I have been wrong before, and continue to learn.
I can assure you, my commitment to Liberty and Truth only gets deeper and stronger each day. I will courteously turn the lights out on your IP after you leave.
Hey, not so fast there Oldyoti! Don't go turning out the lights on my IP! Don't tase me bro!  I've learned too much from Alex and this forum to leave so easily. ~jg |
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« Reply #624 on: May 31, 2009, 04:27:12 PM » |
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Yes, you probably will continue to believe the federally endorsed version of the truth...in this case.
You know how terrible you all sound??? The guy is trying to scam AJ's following, the truth movement, because he sees a great potential of people to be scammed!! If everyone here is so sure that Trudeau, is the best guy around, than fork out the $1000.00 for membership and $150.00 a month, and let see what it is he's got to offer. And if you get scammed. don't complain!! :\ |
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« Reply #625 on: May 31, 2009, 04:46:16 PM » |
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Q, It is totally useless!! People will see and believe what they want. There is nothing more you can do about it!! It's true - some people want to be scammed - they like it, as Jones says. But, having been scammed, they will use doublethink and all sorts of weird logic to convince themselves that they have not been scammed. This will include defending the person who has scammed them..why? because all this is easier than admitting that they're dupes. Fortunately, around here at least, they are now in the small minority. Did you notice, when I asked them to comment on Trudeau's blatant lying on the AJ Show, SILENCE from the apologists. When I asked them to comment on GIN, mostly SILENCE from the apologists. We should be proud that this forum and specifically this thread was the first to expose the latest Trudeau scam, GIN, and refused to accept the manic delusion and dupery that was prevalent earlier in the thread. Congratulations to us! |
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« Reply #626 on: May 31, 2009, 04:50:32 PM » |
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You people just put ENTIRELY too much time into knocking this guy for trying to make some money... If he were selling the amazing TIME MACHINE from hell, and charged you $750,000, who cares??! If you buy it, you're the one that needs some evaluating, no? I think people can make up their minds for themselves, but why crucify the man? If you feel you were wronged by him or have a real legal case against the man, take it up in court. Until then, it's business as usual. He'll continue making money, and you'll continue whining about it! Life goes on...
Read once more Boubear, for re-clarification... nice and easy now... |
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« Reply #627 on: May 31, 2009, 04:54:30 PM » |
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It's true - some people want to be scammed - they like it, as Jones says. But, having been scammed, they will use doublethink and all sorts of weird logic to convince themselves that they have not been scammed. This will include defending the person who has scammed them..why? because all this is easier than admitting that they're dupes. Fortunately, around here at least, they are now in the small minority. Did you notice, when I asked them to comment on Trudeau's blatant lying on the AJ Show, SILENCE from the apologists. When I asked them to comment on GIN, mostly SILENCE from the apologists. We should be proud that this forum and specifically this thread was the first to expose the latest Trudeau scam, GIN, and refused to accept the manic delusion and dupery that was prevalent earlier in the thread. Congratulations to us! LOL!! It seems that people didn't understand why we where against him. It was only to expose the scam in the making, and to inform our fellow truthers, so that they wouldn't be scammed, and loose their money. It sad that you where attacked for caring for members, and trying to tell them not to buy into an obvious scam!! |
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« Reply #628 on: May 31, 2009, 04:56:09 PM » |
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Read once more Boubear, for re-clarification... nice and easy now...
Where was I talking to you?? Keep telling others, that Q and I are horrible people. If they get scammed by this, can they come back on you?? |
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« Reply #629 on: May 31, 2009, 04:56:40 PM » |
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Q, It is totally useless!! People will see and believe what they want. There is nothing more you can do about it!! I think you should go back and read this entire thread... You need to read it closely... and see what is being said by the people, that your "beloved Q" is twisting and inventing against them with the help of at least two others who are playing the classic sheeple for the Q-ster to play off of... you are the one being scammed Boubear. This is about regulating politicians and Banksters not the people, and you need to listen once again to the entire Trudeau interview. JTCoyoté "The real man smiles in trouble, gathers strength
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« Reply #630 on: May 31, 2009, 04:58:55 PM » |
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It's true - some people want to be scammed - they like it, as Jones says. But, having been scammed, they will use doublethink and all sorts of weird logic to convince themselves that they have not been scammed. This will include defending the person who has scammed them..why? because all this is easier than admitting that they're dupes. Fortunately, around here at least, they are now in the small minority. Did you notice, when I asked them to comment on Trudeau's blatant lying on the AJ Show, SILENCE from the apologists. When I asked them to comment on GIN, mostly SILENCE from the apologists. We should be proud that this forum and specifically this thread was the first to expose the latest Trudeau scam, GIN, and refused to accept the manic delusion and dupery that was prevalent earlier in the thread. Congratulations to us! Q, You are making an ass out of yourself with your generalized ASSumptions. I can assure you I have not been duped by Kevin Trudeau nor will I be in the future. |
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« Reply #631 on: May 31, 2009, 05:01:28 PM » |
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I think you should go back and read this entire thread... You need to read it closely... and see what is being said by the people, that your "beloved Q" is twisting and inventing against them with the help of at least two others who are playing the classic sheeple for the Q-ster to play off of... you are the one being scammed Boubear.
This is about regulaying politicians and Banksters not the people.
JTCoyoté
"The real man smiles in trouble, gathers strength
from distress, and grows brave by reflection."
~Thomas Paine
KT claims to be a bilderberger, if he is lying, then that is enough to have nothing to do with him. If he is telling the truth that is enough to have nothing to do with him. As others pointed out, if you are confident in him, "invest" in GIN, after all it "will" make you "rich". And again, as another said, don't complain when you find out what he is really about. |
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« Reply #632 on: May 31, 2009, 05:05:16 PM » |
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KT claims to be a bilderberger, if he is lying, then that is enough to have nothing to do with him. If he is telling the truth that is enough to have nothing to do with him. As others pointed out, if you are confident in him, "invest" in GIN, after all it "will" make you "rich". And again, as another said, don't complain when you find out what he is really about.
That claim has been touted by you and a couple of others here ad nauseum... find it and post the link or clam up. It better say "I'm a member of Bilderberg" or "I am a Bilderberger" and not his comment on Alex where he says he knows members and socialites with them... While your at it... show us where it say's there isn't a gag order on him... You and Q and others here assert that Kevin is a Liar with that comment on the show, YET you provide no proof that it is a lie... then expect others to prove your allegation... get on the stick! Prove it or shut up! These allegations are stated as fact not opinion... trot out your proof, chapter and verse and post it here... NOW! --Oldyoti When my country, into which I had just set my foot,
was set on fire about my ears, it was time to stir.
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« Reply #633 on: May 31, 2009, 05:08:27 PM » |
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I think you should go back and read this entire thread... You need to read it closely... and see what is being said by the people, that your "beloved Q" is twisting and inventing against them with the help of at least two others who are playing the classic sheeple for the Q-ster to play off of... you are the one being scammed Boubear.
This is about regulating politicians and Banksters not the people, and you need to listen once again to the entire Trudeau interview.
JTCoyoté
"The real man smiles in trouble, gathers strength
from distress, and grows brave by reflection."
~Thomas Paine
Jt, Trudeau, did say that he was at Bilderberg. If you listen to the audio, he does suggest it, than AJ asks him if he was there, then it's where it gets weird, Trudeau saying he can't say, and then AJ laughing about it. So yes he does put it in people minds that he was there!! |
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« Reply #634 on: May 31, 2009, 05:13:09 PM » |
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I think you should go back and read this entire thread... You need to read it closely... and see what is being said by the people, that your "beloved Q" is twisting and inventing against them with the help of at least two others who are playing the classic sheeple for the Q-ster to play off of... you are the one being scammed Boubear.
This is about regulating politicians and Banksters not the people, and you need to listen once again to the entire Trudeau interview.
JTCoyoté
"The real man smiles in trouble, gathers strength
from distress, and grows brave by reflection."
~Thomas Paine
Hahaha This is priceless! So who are the puppets that I'm playing off of? Come on, Coyote, name names please... |
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« Reply #635 on: May 31, 2009, 05:15:57 PM » |
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I think you should go back and read this entire thread... You need to read it closely... and see what is being said by the people, that your "beloved Q" is twisting and inventing against them with the help of at least two others who are playing the classic sheeple for the Q-ster to play off of... you are the one being scammed Boubear.
This is about regulating politicians and Banksters not the people, and you need to listen once again to the entire Trudeau interview.
JTCoyoté
"The real man smiles in trouble, gathers strength
from distress, and grows brave by reflection."
~Thomas Paine
Oh I didn't notice that!! "my beloved Q" hahaha Thanks for the laugh!! LOL |
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« Reply #636 on: May 31, 2009, 05:19:58 PM » |
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It's true - some people want to be scammed - they like it, as Jones says. But, having been scammed, they will use doublethink and all sorts of weird logic to convince themselves that they have not been scammed. This will include defending the person who has scammed them..why? because all this is easier than admitting that they're dupes. Fortunately, around here at least, they are now in the small minority. Did you notice, when I asked them to comment on Trudeau's blatant lying on the AJ Show, SILENCE from the apologists. When I asked them to comment on GIN, mostly SILENCE from the apologists. We should be proud that this forum and specifically this thread was the first to expose the latest Trudeau scam, GIN, and refused to accept the manic delusion and dupery that was prevalent earlier in the thread. Congratulations to us! You know, I've been "awake" for a really long time and I still get scammed, constantly. Just to put it into perspective. Information is just that: information. None of it is automatically true but ideas ARE bulletproof. Care less about the details and focus on the endgame, and the fix. f**k the NWO! |
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« Reply #637 on: May 31, 2009, 05:21:37 PM » |
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Jt, Trudeau, did say that he was at Bilderberg. If you listen to the audio, he does suggest it, than AJ asks him if he was there, then it's where it gets weird, Trudeau saying he can't say, and then AJ laughing about it.
So yes he does put it in people minds that he was there!!
Daniel Estulin, was at Bilderberg, as was Jim Tucker, and countless others... You have been steered by this troll-sifter thread to believe that the nebulous statement Trudeau made on the show meant that he was among the policy makers, the evidence for which is not in what he said at all... JTCoyoté “Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits
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« Reply #638 on: May 31, 2009, 05:24:33 PM » |
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Where was I talking to you?? Keep telling others, that Q and I are horrible people. If they get scammed by this, can they come back on you??
LOL Where did I say you or Q were horrible people??? I never did! You just make false claims left and right, that's what annoys me.... give it up already!!! If you read my post you'd understand my perspective on the issue, and that it's really not so much about whether or not his website is worth it or useless... I'm saying he has a right to do it, and most intelligent folks here wouldn't buy into anyways, but he has his right to make a dollar... so this is really a dead issue now, isn't it? What else do you have to say about Kevin Trudeau that you haven't already said, or that he hasn't already stated on his own website in black & white?? If you have nothing more, than why keep whining about it here on this thread? It's counter-productive to other things we both could be doing right now for the better good of mankind... |
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« Reply #639 on: May 31, 2009, 05:25:47 PM » |
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LOL Where did I say you or Q were horrible people??? I never did! You just make false claims left and right, that's what annoys me.... give it up already!!! If you read my post you'd understand my perspective on the issue, and that it's really not so much about whether or not his website is worth it or useless... I'm saying he has a right to do it, and most intelligent folks here wouldn't buy into anyways, but he has his right to make a dollar... so this is really a dead issue now, isn't it?
What else do you have to say about Kevin Trudeau that you haven't already said, or that he hasn't already stated on his own website in black & white??
If you have nothing more, than why keep whining about it here on this thread? It's counter-productive to other things we both could be doing right now for the better good of mankind...
Wow!! you just can't help yourself can you!! I don't care what you believe. Tell people whatever. I just don't care anymore!! |
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