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« Reply #360 on: May 27, 2009, 06:54:51 PM »

Q, you've got a real hard on for this guy.  Where did the bad man hurt you?

You seem to have a damp spot for me, jshowell  Kiss
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« Reply #361 on: May 27, 2009, 06:55:17 PM »

That's all very melodramatic, but all we're doing here is exposing a lying, scamming con artist. The whole world and his dog should be able to understand this. But as I said earlier, if you prefer lies and scams to the truth then maybe you should go elsewhere.


yeah you got me right.

I prefer public awareness of alternatives to chemo, mercury, vaccines, GMO, etc... like the man writes about
I prefer shining a light on the NWO  like the man talks about
I prefer people in high places telling the sheeple to turn off the msm news and tune into alt radio; just like the man says.

and I don't give a crap how much he's worth
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« Reply #362 on: May 27, 2009, 07:00:15 PM »

So if I'm not entertained, you gives refund?

Cause that'd sure put the fun in refund.

Yes. Only because I think what I posted is the most clear cut in regards to him being a scammer/magician like myself. The only difference is that I do magic to entertain people, not to scam them out of their money.
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« Reply #363 on: May 27, 2009, 07:04:30 PM »

That's all very melodramatic, but all we're doing here is exposing a lying, scamming con artist. The whole world and his dog should be able to understand this. But as I said earlier, if you prefer lies and scams to the truth then maybe you should go elsewhere.


Hey, there disinfo agent. Kidding, I completely agree with you. I don't understand why people can't see this man for what he is. As a magician I immediately noticed that Trudeau is using certain techniques. Here's an example:

Cold reading --
Cold reading is a series of techniques used by mentalists, fortune tellers, psychics, and mediums to determine details about another person in order to convince them that the reader knows much more about a subject than they actually do.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_reading

On another note; I did NOT jump on the "Daniel Estulin is a Bilderberg member!" wagon. People need to realize that this is different.
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« Reply #364 on: May 27, 2009, 07:04:57 PM »

While I at first thought people were just trying to shoot the messenger,a quick search made me feel differently and here is why(bold is my emphasis)

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« Reply #365 on: May 27, 2009, 07:07:50 PM »

chemicaltrain that was a great diversion, i emailed  that link to everyone i know

I am quite tired of these resounding gongs bashing KT.  not one of you bashing has read the book or done anything near productive to the movement that KT has done.

I will tell you this:  And I am tired of having to defend a milionaire billionaire but truth is truth!

Using the methods KT published, saved me from breast cancer!
Now those of you bashers who cannot top that; STFU!!!!!

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« Reply #366 on: May 27, 2009, 07:09:31 PM »

"Most of the benefits of membership are confidential, revealed only to its members when that member is accepted at each membership level,"

Pyramid scheme, plain and simple. I investigated enough of those to be able to see em a mile away.
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« Reply #367 on: May 27, 2009, 07:09:42 PM »

i just realized i have his book and he does speak some truth lol
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« Reply #368 on: May 27, 2009, 07:14:25 PM »

I am sure most people who have jumped on the bandwagon to criticize Trudeau have never read any of his books.   Roll Eyes

http://books.google.com/books?id=sttZYgZOxZAC&pg=PA28&lpg=PA28&dq=Sean+Shanahan+hooked+on+phonics&source=bl&ots=q23pUnqWCr&sig=dUSeg_Rlpa_oeHc_jBQ7K3ZKmHs&hl=en&ei=UdQdSt3kA6DCM5qq4OwF&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3#PPA26,M1
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« Reply #369 on: May 27, 2009, 07:15:47 PM »

Well, I've had his 'Natural Cures' book for years and I salute him for planting a seed in the minds of millions who maybe wouldn't otherwise have access to that kind of info.  There's nothing wrong with the message contained in the book.  In fact, there's a lot of good.  I'm sure if you had the discipline to follow a lot of that info, you'd be healthier.  I think the message he carries in the book is positive and encourages people to cover their own asses the next time their doctor wants to prescribe medication for a stubbed toe or the next time they find themselves in the middle of a grocery store to maybe sneak a peek at the ingredients.  Yeah, he does refer to his 'pay' site a lot in the book, which was a bit off-putting, but there is still a good message in the book that's worth the price of admission.  Those who feel the need to seek further info from his website may do so at their own discretion.  He appears genuinely passionate about the subject matter.  So he makes a ton of money....big deal.  I'm sure he spurs many to sharpen up their critical thinking skills.  My $.02

Oh and the Dateline gag was without a doubt a hitpiece.  It's called damage control.  He must get bombarded daily.
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« Reply #370 on: May 27, 2009, 07:19:29 PM »

The bilderbergers are billionaires! They own the damn banks!  What do they have to gain by plunging us into global depression/war, etc? Bill Clinton was President of the US, so what does he have to gain by continuing his involvement with politics? Not everybody values the same things you and I do.  They don't all think the same as we do. You think this guy spent the first half of his life conning people out of their money, and then suddenly decided to change his ways?  Maybe he gets a cheap thrill out of misleading people. Maybe it makes him feel powerful to know that he's able to trick another human being into believing him without any evidence other than his own word, sometimes to the point where they'll give him money to do so. I've met people like that face to face. I've even been taken in by some of them, including Trudeau, because I, like most people, project my own personality and motives onto others, in an effort to understand the motives behind their actions. "If I wouldn't do that, under his apparent cirumstances, then he probably wouldn't either."  That's normal, but it leaves open a psychological back door of trust that pathological liars take advantage of, to satisfy their own insecurities.

To be honest, I even doubt Trudeau is a billionaire. In fact, I challenge you to find one reliable source that that claim is true. Maybe you can find him listed among the billionaires of forbes.com, for instance. I don't think you'll find it. I think it's just another lie. He writes self help books, and does infomercials for crying out loud.  He ain't J.K. Rowling.


Everything he has said on the Alex Jones show has been well documented already, he did shed a little insight on some things.

He supposedly runs in the same circles that Daniel Estulin gets his information from. I know he said he was at the meeting, but not the main one but an off set faction and that he hangs out with the people that do actually attend. Let Alex confirm with Daniel.  I'm sure the truth will soon surface, hence you shall know them...by the fruits of their labor.

Giving Kevin's track record and the governments, I'll take Kevin's but in that same breath I'm not going to let someone bend me over either. Right now he gets my benifit of the doubt.

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« Reply #371 on: May 27, 2009, 07:20:14 PM »

yeah you got me right.

I prefer public awareness of alternatives to chemo, mercury, vaccines, GMO, etc... like the man writes about
I prefer shining a light on the NWO  like the man talks about
I prefer people in high places telling the sheeple to turn off the msm news and tune into alt radio; just like the man says.

and I don't give a crap how much he's worth


I think you've missed the point. You're concentrating on what he said...that was the pitch. Good conmen will always tell their marks what they want to hear...you need to look at what his angle is, what he was trying to sell - and if there wasn't one then we wouldn't be here exposing it - but what is behind the stories and BS and lies is him selling his new pyramid scam which you can read about on this thread and others.

So I have a question for you. I have been asked several times in this whole affair why I'm going after Trudeau. The answer should be obvious: I see a lying scam artist trying to sell his new scam to people and I want to expose it...but my question is this: how much evidence, exposure of obvious lies and deceit, exposure of new scams and old, how much is too much for you to conveniently ignore? In the face of overwhelming evidence of who he is and what he's done and still doing, how can you continue to run around covering up for this lying stealing scamming con artist?
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« Reply #372 on: May 27, 2009, 07:25:36 PM »

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So I have a question for you. I have been asked several times in this whole affair why I'm going after Trudeau. The answer should be obvious: I see a lying scam artist trying to sell his new scam to people and I want to expose it...but my question is this: how much evidence, exposure of obvious lies and deceit, exposure of new scams and old, how much is too much for you to conveniently ignore? In the face of overwhelming evidence of who he is and what he's done and still doing, how can you continue to run around covering up for this lying stealing scamming con artist?

The thing is...he's selling information.  Whether or not you perceive it to be good or bad, he's not holding a gun to anyone's head to buy his products.  You will not go to jail or experience any nasty things if you choose not to purchase his products.  Why not direct your frustration toward something a tad more worthwhile, like the IRS?!!  Kevin is a businessman selling a product that has the potential to change lives for the better.  That's not a bad thing.
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« Reply #373 on: May 27, 2009, 07:30:24 PM »

so if anyone calls out a guest and doesn't like him he' s a disinfo agent? I have my suspicions about trudeau cuz in one of his books he mentions how he was an insider and saw area 51.....anyone else read that
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« Reply #374 on: May 27, 2009, 07:36:53 PM »

well I'm totally disgusted after reading all this crap about Alex and Trudeau on pp forum from all you disinfo agents.
All this immediate bashing of a guy who brought important info and good words of health and nutrition and empowerment, (but forget what he actually SAID, let's google what the govt. hit men are saying ABOUT him!  OH wait, the govt. hit men are HERE!...)  I wouldn't blame AJ for shutting this forum down.  In fact I hope he does.

This forum's gotten rotten like a bad piece of fruit.  Those fruit flies circling the infowars office must be attracted to this forum.  In spite of the admirable  and excellent work of great mods, the trolls have taken over.  The detractors, spoilers, disinfo agents and whiners have taken over and won this small battle.  

So, have at it!  You can't take our heart and soul: mark my word, the heart, soul and spirit of this forum will reappear in a hundred other places. Cut off one head and hundreds of others appear.  It's like stamping out a forest fire; the sparks are everywhere, there's no stopping our voice.  Just watch!   OR  read history.  Nasty folks go down, one way or the other.  True hearts stay strong and always, always win in the end.

You guys ruined the forum, sleep well. job well done. but don't turn around, there's countless other signs of the people rising. Better get real real busy.

And those of you who got involved in this witch hunt who aren't disinfo, don't you get it? you bash Alex's guests, not knowing your ass from a teacup, you bash Alex.  You call him an idiot for having someone on without any idea of the backstory, you throw mud all over the one guy waking up this country.  Don't you think Alex vets people? Hasn't he proven over and over that he is thorough, fair, judicious, intelligent, discerning and critical?  So what, you guys punch in a few google searches and POOF voila you know more and have a better idea of how things really are than the whole damn PP office full of writers, techies, researches devoted to exposing people and motivations.

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I'm about done with this forum.  You have to look long and hard for a valuable post.  


Wow! How about some cheese with that whine? People are hitting you with cold hard facts and you have a fit? I thought people like you were here for the truth?

I think your caught up in the person, stay true to the truth and never lose your focus!

People here and all over are researchers too. Alex tells you to think for yourself, but you seem to want he and his researchers to do the thinking for you. So a valuable post to you is sucking up to someones every word and worshipping them?

Verry scarry if this is the direction we are heading... Sad
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« Reply #375 on: May 27, 2009, 07:37:07 PM »

Real alternative medical methods often require a lifestyle change for the patient.  That is why some doctors even if open minded to them won't recommend them (though they may send their family to holistic practitioners).  They feel it is just too hard to get a patient to make such changes or they start out on them then revert to their old lifestyle.  I've used alternative practitioners since the early 1970s and in the 1980s a family member came down with cancer.  Only towards the end did he start looking at alternative methods but I knew it was too late by then.
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« Reply #376 on: May 27, 2009, 07:42:55 PM »

"Most of the benefits of membership are confidential, revealed only to its members when that member is accepted at each membership level,"

Pyramid scheme, plain and simple. I investigated enough of those to be able to see em a mile away.

Do you even understand what a pyramid scheme is? There is nothing here even remotely similar to one.

The guy sells information at high prices.

I just bought some market research data for my company for more than what KT's site costs...does that mean I bought a scam? Oh noes!
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« Reply #377 on: May 27, 2009, 07:45:13 PM »

The thing is...he's selling information.  Whether or not you perceive it to be good or bad, he's not holding a gun to anyone's head to buy his products.  You will not go to jail or experience any nasty things if you choose not to purchase his products.  Why not direct your frustration toward something a tad more worthwhile, like the IRS?!!  Kevin is a businessman selling a product that has the potential to change lives for the better.  That's not a bad thing.
The thing is...he's selling information.  Whether or not you perceive it to be good or bad, he's not holding a gun to anyone's head to buy his products.  You will not go to jail or experience any nasty things if you choose not to purchase his products.  Why not direct your frustration toward something a tad more worthwhile, like the IRS?!!  Kevin is a businessman selling a product that has the potential to change lives for the better.  That's not a bad thing.

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« Reply #378 on: May 27, 2009, 07:47:52 PM »

Wow! How about some cheese with that whine? People are hitting you with cold hard facts and you have a fit? I thought people like you were hear for the truth?

I think your caught up in the person, stay true to the truth and never lose your focus!

People here and all over are researchers to. Alex tells you to think for yourself, but you seem to want he and his researchers to do the thinking for you.

Verry scarry if this is the direction we are heading... Sad

well lordy lordy thinking for myself i am
here's what i think:
 house,
NUMBER ONE  I ain't buying NOThing from this guy.  I''m not hiring him to babysit my children, rent my house, marry me, enter into a business agreement.  I'm not lookin to join a pyramid scheme, invest in his stuff, borrow or lend money from him.  

I"M listening to what he says on an hour long radio show.  I'm weighing his information and DECIDING IT IS RIGHT.  I am THINKING TO MYSELF: hmmmm.  That guy makes sense.  He did not offer anything other than empowering, healthy, illuminating information, and his suggestions TO THIS THINKING PERSON were reasonable and intelligent.    game over.  

and guess what, after thINKING for myself I've decided to take it for what it is: an hour long interview brought to me by a person whose intentions and info I sincerely admire and respect, an interview presented in hopes that it would be valuable and help me live my life better and make more informed decisions for myself family friends and community.  

GAME OVER
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« Reply #379 on: May 27, 2009, 07:49:45 PM »

so if anyone calls out a guest and doesn't like him he' s a disinfo agent? I have my suspicions about trudeau cuz in one of his books he mentions how he was an insider and saw area 51.....anyone else read that

i have a bridge to the moon to sell you, of course maybe you want to provide some evidence of your claims before i call you a troll
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« Reply #380 on: May 27, 2009, 07:51:06 PM »

Check this video out. The guy is a scam artist, period.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5461554737222125569
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« Reply #381 on: May 27, 2009, 07:51:42 PM »

I think you've missed the point. You're concentrating on what he said...that was the pitch. Good conmen will always tell their marks what they want to hear...you need to look at what his angle is, what he was trying to sell - and if there wasn't one then we wouldn't be here exposing it - but what is behind the stories and BS and lies is him selling his new pyramid scam which you can read about on this thread and others.

So I have a question for you. I have been asked several times in this whole affair why I'm going after Trudeau. The answer should be obvious: I see a lying scam artist trying to sell his new scam to people and I want to expose it...but my question is this: how much evidence, exposure of obvious lies and deceit, exposure of new scams and old, how much is too much for you to conveniently ignore? In the face of overwhelming evidence of who he is and what he's done and still doing, how can you continue to run around covering up for this lying stealing scamming con artist?

I am concentrating on what he says?  That's WRONG?
KEY POINT
I had absolutely no desire after listening to the show to go out and buy a damn thing.
I do not remember a single product pushed or scammed.
It was an interview.  Information shared.   Didn't register a single product pushed.
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« Reply #382 on: May 27, 2009, 07:55:20 PM »

you kidding me,troll? my brother bought his book, next time I'm there I will  get the page number, i don't remember the exact quote but he does claim that he used to be  part of the elite if memory serves me right.....troll hey... watch my vid and then tell me if you still think i'm a troll...
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« Reply #383 on: May 27, 2009, 07:55:36 PM »

well lordy lordy thinking for myself i am
here's what i think:
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NUMBER ONE  I ain't buying NOThing from this guy.  I''m not hiring him to babysit my children, rent my house, marry me, enter into a business agreement.  I'm not lookin to join a pyramid scheme, invest in his stuff, borrow or lend money from him.  

I"M listening to what he says on an hour long radio show.  I'm weighing his information and DECIDING IT IS RIGHT.  I am THINKING TO MYSELF: hmmmm.  That guy makes sense.  He did not offer anything other than empowering, healthy, illuminating information, and his suggestions TO THIS THINKING PERSON were reasonable and intelligent.    game over.  

and guess what, after thINKING for myself I've decided to take it for what it is: an hour long interview brought to me by a person whose intentions and info I sincerely admire and respect, an interview presented in hopes that it would be valuable and help me live my life better and make more informed decisions for myself family friends and community.  

GAME OVER

That still sounds like a long-winded response basically saying that we shouldn't question Alex, his guests, nor you.

Q put forth some info that shows this man is highly questionable. Go back to post 1 and follow the facts that Q posted. Trudeau wasn't banned and he comes off as a quack.

Are there natural cures? Of course but I won't be going to this guy any time soon and much of what he covers in his book has been done by others and is FREELY available on the internet. Also, there are better books.
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« Reply #384 on: May 27, 2009, 07:58:46 PM »

This is the pure bullshit that gets this forum In Trouble. This is the exact reason alex threatens to pull the plug on this forum. You should be ashamed of yourself.


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« Reply #385 on: May 27, 2009, 08:03:15 PM »

In a desperate attempt to get the forum to stop wankin around and think about, support, discuss or contribute to something actually relevant, I post this trailer for a fabulous movie recently released about saving seeds in 11 countries.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPZwgjJW5xs

At this late date when basic, decent food sources are threatened, folks like these are revolutionary and vital.
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« Reply #386 on: May 27, 2009, 08:06:09 PM »

That still sounds like a long-winded response basically saying that we shouldn't question Alex, his guests, nor you.

Q put forth some info that shows this man is highly questionable. Go back to post 1 and follow the facts that Q posted. Trudeau wasn't banned and he comes off as a quack.

Are there natural cures? Of course but I won't be going to this guy any time soon and much of what he has in his books is freely available on the internet and there are better books.


How about questioning, thinking about, or putting energy into something factual, powerful, helpful?
what a concept.

Arguing endlessly about if some guy you never met is a scammer or not strikes me as a royal waste of time.  WHO CARES.  Take what he says, pick out what's useful to you or your family,  END OF STORY

  Dude, country's going down, and shit like this makes it go down faster. 
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« Reply #387 on: May 27, 2009, 08:09:04 PM »


How about questioning, thinking about, or putting energy into something factual, powerful, helpful?
what a concept.

Arguing endlessly about if some guy you never met is a scammer or not strikes me as a royal waste of time.  WHO CARES.  Take what he says, pick out what's useful to you or your family,  END OF STORY

  Dude, country's going down, and shit like this makes it go down faster. 

Yep and he is a waste of time. There are much better guests. Wink
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« Reply #388 on: May 27, 2009, 08:09:43 PM »

Just to ask...have any of you actually READ his books?

I heard all the crap about this guy too but then someone loaned me his natural cures book and it exposes FDA corruption and the Bush administration...I can see why they want to shut him down.

I have his hardcover 2nd edition of Natural Cures They Don't Want You To Know About. Bought it over 3 years ago at K-Mart. It's an excellent book which exposes how Big Pharma and Big Food are so powerful. He exposes how government lobbyists help Big Pharma. He also exposes how charitable foundations fund phony nutritional advocates who do more harm than good. He exposes how the food industry puts certain chemicals which get you addicted to their foods and make you fat...yes, there are chemicals in the foods that make you fat.

Now there are a few things in the book which I think are quite extreme such as getting 15 colonics in 30 days. I would rather do an herbal colon cleanse program - such as Aloe Ease or Colonix - than have a hose stuck up my butt. But I think overall it's a great book. He even devotes an entire chapter on a guy who created a "no-hunger bread" only to have guns drawn on him by FDA agents who seized all of his "no-hunger bread" and destroyed it. Just think, a guy invents a food to stop hunger, and the FDA seizes his food at gunpoint and destroys food which could have fed possibly BILLIONS of people!
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« Reply #389 on: May 27, 2009, 08:10:59 PM »

Quackwatch is propaganda at its best.  That site has no credibility among intelligent people.

Quackwatch is operated by Stephen Barrett, the biggest Big Pharma shill around.
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« Reply #390 on: May 27, 2009, 08:13:15 PM »

you kidding me,troll? my brother bought his book, next time I'm there I will  get the page number, i don't remember the exact quote but he does claim that he used to be  part of the elite if memory serves me right.....troll hey... watch my vid and then tell me if you still think i'm a troll...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=parjG_AtS9c&feature=channel_page
did you know you can just search google books and paste the link if you know what you are searching for.

btw 'i don't tink 911 was an inside job' (makin fun of french people speaking english) regarding your video on you tube.
no, that was a good video you uploaded . it would have been epic to show people videos of wtc7 falling down on a laptop.
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« Reply #391 on: May 27, 2009, 08:13:27 PM »

That still sounds like a long-winded response basically saying that we shouldn't question Alex, his guests, nor you.

Q put forth some info that shows this man is highly questionable. Go back to post 1 and follow the facts that Q posted. Trudeau wasn't banned and he comes off as a quack.

Are there natural cures? Of course but I won't be going to this guy any time soon and much of what he covers in his book has been done by others and is FREELY available on the internet. Also, there are better books.
Actually, that's the opposite of what he's saying... he's saying that HE THOUGHT FOR HIMSELF, and decided (because you can tell by listening to him) that KT was sincere in his tellings/findings of the elite and their agenda, and offered this information (FREE OF CHARGE) to us, the listeners and told us what we best to do to better ourselves in this life... how is that a scam again?
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« Reply #392 on: May 27, 2009, 08:14:32 PM »


How about questioning, thinking about, or putting energy into something factual, powerful, helpful?
what a concept.

Arguing endlessly about if some guy you never met is a scammer or not strikes me as a royal waste of time.  WHO CARES.  Take what he says, pick out what's useful to you or your family,  END OF STORY

  Dude, country's going down, and shit like this makes it go down faster. 

Oh worlds ending, lets forget reason and listen to any jackass that just happens to come along. I don't think so.
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« Reply #393 on: May 27, 2009, 08:18:15 PM »

I have his hardcover 2nd edition of Natural Cures They Don't Want You To Know About. Bought it over 3 years ago at K-Mart. It's an excellent book which exposes how Big Pharma and Big Food are so powerful. He exposes how government lobbyists help Big Pharma. He also exposes how charitable foundations fund phony nutritional advocates who do more harm than good. He exposes how the food industry puts certain chemicals which get you addicted to their foods and make you fat...yes, there are chemicals in the foods that make you fat.

Now there are a few things in the book which I think are quite extreme such as getting 15 colonics in 30 days. I would rather do an herbal colon cleanse program - such as Aloe Ease or Colonix - than have a hose stuck up my butt. But I think overall it's a great book. He even devotes an entire chapter on a guy who created a "no-hunger bread" only to have guns drawn on him by FDA agents who seized all of his "no-hunger bread" and destroyed it. Just think, a guy invents a food to stop hunger, and the FDA seizes his food at gunpoint and destroys food which could have fed possibly BILLIONS of people!

no, it's like way more important to this forum (of FDA shills?) to look away from these important stories and concepts and discuss endlessly inconclusive foggy google ramblings about what some dude does with his money.  Forget what he SAYS let's get lost on an alley with no end. LEt's attack the messenger.   We've seen that before haven't we?

Thanks for sharing the story about the FDA and the no-hunger bread.  That's useful info I'd like to follow up on. 
Watch it get buried in another onslaught of pseudo info
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« Reply #394 on: May 27, 2009, 08:22:58 PM »

Actually, that's the opposite of what he's saying... he's saying that HE THOUGHT FOR HIMSELF, and decided (because you can tell by listening to him) that KT was sincere in his tellings/findings of the elite and their agenda, and offered this information (FREE OF CHARGE) to us, the listeners and told us what we best to do to better ourselves in this life... how is that a scam again?

Free of charge? No...that my friend was called free advertising on AJs show. A platform to lead people into the scam perhaps?
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« Reply #395 on: May 27, 2009, 08:26:19 PM »

no, it's like way more important to this forum (of FDA shills?) to look away from these important stories and concepts and discuss endlessly inconclusive foggy google ramblings about what some dude does with his money.  Forget what he SAYS let's get lost on an alley with no end. LEt's attack the messenger.   We've seen that before haven't we?

Thanks for sharing the story about the FDA and the no-hunger bread.  That's useful info I'd like to follow up on. 
Watch it get buried in another onslaught of pseudo info

BTW, does anyone have that recipe?  I have a bread maker now; I think I will try it.
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« Reply #396 on: May 27, 2009, 08:26:43 PM »

Free of charge? No...that my friend was called free advertising on AJs show. A platform to lead people into the scam perhaps?


Getting too ridiculous here.
I'm out after this post. watta waster
nobody interested in saving seeds, supporting activism, writing senators, exchanging real info.

Here's a list of everyone who has ever plugged a website or book or idea on AJ's show.
Oh wait. I'll be on this stupid forum all night: cuz
That would be....hmmmmm
every guest
every single damn guest
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« Reply #397 on: May 27, 2009, 08:26:52 PM »

did you know you can just search google books and paste the link if you know what you are searching for.

btw 'i don't tink 911 was an inside job' (makin fun of french people speaking english) regarding your video on you tube.
no, that was a good video you uploaded . it would have been epic to show people videos of wtc7 falling down on a laptop.
thanks, I found it using google books, thanks for that tip also...I'm not saying this proves he's bs but my bs meter went up when I read this from  pg 11, let me know what you think, personally I liked the interview and his book on natural cures is true...but I have my doubts
http://books.google.com/books?id=sttZYgZOxZAC&printsec=frontcover&dq=kevin+trudeau#PPA11,M1
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« Reply #398 on: May 27, 2009, 08:30:18 PM »

I'm listening to the Kevin Trudeau show on his website right now.... folks, this guy is not some evil con artist lying to everyone, he's telling the TRUTH in all he says on the air so far!! In fact, he's honestly unveiling lots of important things that I've already known about, but many may not... so he's essentially doing his part in the infowar right now, what are you doing? Ask yourself this the next time you go on bashing someone because they have a little money in their pockets and are making more of it by pumping books and how-to's that also, guess what, contain facts and truths! So what, he's smart! Good for him!
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« Reply #399 on: May 27, 2009, 08:34:21 PM »

Free of charge? No...that my friend was called free advertising on AJs show. A platform to lead people into the scam perhaps?

YES, free of charge. Do I have to hold your hand like a small child and walk you through this one?

Okay, read REAL well when you go over this next sentence so you may formulate your answer... are you READY?

I did not pay a penny to listen to Kevin Trudeau on the Alex Jones Show (or his own for that matter, the KTradio show) and I heard lots of valuable information that I'm very grateful to have an opportunity to do so.

Was it free or did it have a price tag? Think real hard before answering... I know it's tough but you can do it!

What has our population been degraded to?  Undecided
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