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« Reply #80 on: May 26, 2009, 01:38:08 PM »

I hear many conflicting reports about life in Europe. The latest I heard was everybody is very dour and negative compared with America. Even if they have better roads and restrooms, I still don't care to go there....About CPS and children, see Matthew 24:19. Seems to say it will be hard to be a parent in the end times.
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« Reply #81 on: May 26, 2009, 01:40:23 PM »

Trust me.  Kevin just gave the godfathers wish to Alex.  He confirmed everything.  The ball just went out of the park people!


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« Reply #82 on: May 26, 2009, 01:41:49 PM »

Yes, this IS an incredible interview. Now that Trudeau admitted he attended Bilderberg (btw, I didn't see his name on ANY of the leaked lists), I guess I'll have to relisten to this interview again, and perhaps again after that.

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He said he was there in Greece. That there's a secondary type meeting. I'm thinking like an off spring or unofficial group that meets.
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« Reply #83 on: May 26, 2009, 01:46:04 PM »

This guy is either total BS or They have gotten so arrogant they just don't care if we know or he's pissed off  That he had to part with his money and hes throwing a tantrum by giving us this info and he will be gone (disappear of the face of the earth) soon.
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« Reply #84 on: May 26, 2009, 01:46:34 PM »

I also thought the interview excellent. I read his first natural cures book about a year ago. I stumbled across his book at the library while looking for another book. I hadnt been to the library in years and Trudeau's book just said "hello" and looked interesting. It was very interesting. The book itself didnt go into a lot of detail about natural cures and I remember it felt like the first half of the book pretty much talked about the corrupt system in place that controls us. It is a definite awakening for people not awakened, thats for sure.
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« Reply #85 on: May 26, 2009, 01:46:35 PM »

I hear many conflicting reports about life in Europe. The latest I heard was everybody is very dour and negative compared with America. Even if they have better roads and restrooms, I still don't care to go there....About CPS and children, see Matthew 24:19. Seems to say it will be hard to be a parent in the end times.

They do not fluoridate their water, family farms and organics are the rule and encouraged... GMO is not allowed...

They are not America however but if we don't get on the stick we will soon be worse than the old Soviet Union...

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« Reply #86 on: May 26, 2009, 01:47:50 PM »

Why do you think I'm asking? I'm asking because I can't find any evidence of any of this.

He said he was in Greece because his buddies were at the Bilderberg meetings. That doesn't necessarily mean he is allowed into the meetings and he never really said he was.
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« Reply #87 on: May 26, 2009, 01:50:44 PM »

Well if Alex says hes ok then he must be, until he proves himself wrong
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« Reply #88 on: May 26, 2009, 01:51:40 PM »

This guy is either total BS or They have gotten so arrogant they just don't care if we know or he's pissed off  That he had to part with his money and hes throwing a tantrum by giving us this info and he will be gone (disappear of the face of the earth) soon.

The bolding above is my pick... when a thief takes your wife, your home, and your car, even if he is your best friend, you will turn on him for his lawlessness...

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« Reply #89 on: May 26, 2009, 01:51:59 PM »


That's right, when we went to organics 100% I lost 40 lbs in 5 weeks, no exercising.
The chemicals in foods keeps you swollen, not fat. Chemicals in food makes you eat more! My appetite went down, big time. Not interested in sweets as much.

I want to get this book. Im like 20 lbs over weight and so is my wife. We have tried to go organic (not completely), but we have both lost almost 10 lbs each. I drink 100% raw whole milk now (not 2%) and have actually lost weight. I too dont eat much sweets anymore. I havent lost weight like you have though. What else can you tell us before I go buy his book? Thanks!
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« Reply #90 on: May 26, 2009, 01:53:06 PM »

Hey don't get me wrong - it was a grrrreeeaaat interview...very very revealing.

Trudeau did what he does best: insinuated himself into a role for the purpose of selling his products. He is a professional marketer and fraudster and actor.

Listen again to the interview. All the "confirmations" Trudeau conveniently provided were repetitions. He is a listener to the show..he just repeated back to Alex all the stuff he's being saying. What is more flattering than that? These are not confirmations of anything except that Trudeau has heard about this stuff just as we all have.

What do you really know about this guy apart from what he has told you? Remember who he is and what he is good at before buying into "Kevin Trudeau member of the elite"...did you hear him refer to the elites in the first person (pl).."we" do such and such.

Benjamin Fulford comes to mind....
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« Reply #91 on: May 26, 2009, 01:53:46 PM »

No.  Kevin did admit he was there.

Alex listened to him admit he was at bilderberg.  He gave Kevin the "wink wink" not to admit it so adamantly.  He gave him the out to say, "you can't admit you were there right Kevin, I mean you shouldn't right?  

Kevin said, "ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeah that's right, I was back and forth from the 200 foot yachts and the building" Cough Cough!
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« Reply #92 on: May 26, 2009, 01:56:18 PM »

He said he was in Greece because his buddies were at the Bilderberg meetings. That doesn't necessarily mean he is allowed into the meetings and he never really said he was.

This is a good question---did he attend the actual Bilderberg meeting, or did he attend a peripheral meeting near where the Bilderberg meeting occurred while also communicating with actual Bilderberg attendees? Upon my first listen, when Trudeau first started talking about this year's Bilderberg meeting, it sounded like he was saying he was an actual attendee. But then when Alex did the double take on what Trudeau was saying, it sounded like he was saying he was attending peripheral meetings. Then shortly thereafter in the interview, it again sounded like he was an actual attendee.

So, I'll have to relisten to the interview for closer analysis. But even then, I'm with Rothscum and others...question question question, and verify verify verify.

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« Reply #93 on: May 26, 2009, 02:04:11 PM »

Hey don't get me wrong - it was a grrrreeeaaat interview...very very revealing.

Trudeau did what he does best: insinuated himself into a role for the purpose of selling his products. He is a professional marketer and fraudster and actor.

Listen again to the interview. All the "confirmations" Trudeau conveniently provided were repetitions. He is a listener to the show..he just repeated back to Alex all the stuff he's being saying. What is more flattering than that? These are not confirmations of anything except that Trudeau has heard about this stuff just as we all have.

What do you really know about this guy apart from what he has told you? Remember who he is and what he is good at before buying into "Kevin Trudeau member of the elite"...did you hear him refer to the elites in the first person (pl).."we" do such and such.

Benjamin Fulford comes to mind....

I should add that Trudeau's people called Jones' office to ask if they could use the audio..why if he is banned from the media as he claimed?

Answer: he is not banned from the media but only from doing infomercials..more fraud and half-truth from Trudeau.
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« Reply #94 on: May 26, 2009, 02:07:20 PM »

Why do you think I'm asking? I'm asking because I can't find any evidence of any of this.

Questions to all of you:

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Do you have any evidence proving this guy is a billionaire?:
I did a scroogle search on the term Kevin Trudeau, and almost every one I found called him a 'Billionaire'.

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Do you have any evidence he attended Bilderberg?:
He said he did.  Do you have any evidence he DIDN'T?

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Does he appear on any of the lists from previous years we have?
Not that I can tell.  But that doesn't mean he wasn't in one of the peripheral meetings.

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Why would Bilderberg invite this man who was convicted of fraud, when they even kicked out Bernhard after it leaked out that he took bribes?
Convicted of fraud for telling the truth. Laughable. Anyway, if you listened to the broadcast, Kevin said that it was a JOKE to Bilderberg. We're too gorram stupid to realize the truth, they know that, and they don't care. They think it's hilarious.

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Why would they invite a guy who promotes alternative medicine?
Why not? He's not seriously hurting their business any. And Kevin Trudeau's talking about the Bilderberg actually desensitizes people and makes it all acceptable. If 1% of the population wakes up then the other 99% still is asleep. Bilderberg still wins.

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« Reply #95 on: May 26, 2009, 02:09:07 PM »

Minion: "Majesty, the invitations for Europe's leading politicians and CEO's to the coming Bilderberg Conference are ready."
Emperor Rockefeller: "Are you sure we've invited the future leaders of France? What I mean is, have you found any potential candidates that would make decent leaders and are easily manipulated?"
Minion: "Yes my Majesty."
Emperor Rockefeller: "Í have a feeling you forgot someone... how about Trudeau?"
Minion: "I don't know any Trudeau, who is this person working for, Rothschild interests? These people need to cut down on their frontmen geez how could any man keep up with this... Or is there some new promising Royal bastard I haven't heard of yet?"
Emperor Rockefeller: No, the guy from the book, he thought he found out how to cure the new diseases my people created, I forgot his first name, damn they really gotta check that Fluoride filter at the Grove, was it something like Kurt... Ken... Kevin perhaps?
Minion: "WHAT!?! Kevin Trudeau? Are you kidding sir? Did you take the flu shot or something?"
Emperor Rockefeller: "No of course not you dumb little fool. Do you think I'm going to inject myself with the cancervirus my grandfather paid for? My housemaid doesn't even take the flu shot. Heck, my housemaid's housemaid doesn't even take the flu shot. Heck, my housemaid's housemaid's house-"
Minion: "Sir, Queen Beatrix is going to cancel the meeting if we invite this guy!"
Emperor Rockefeller: "So be it. He has to come."
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« Reply #96 on: May 26, 2009, 02:10:48 PM »

I have a book of his...

Natural Cures "THEY Don't Want You To Know About Updated Edition:

Includes The Natural Cures For More Than 50 Specific Diseases

I switched over to as organic as I can get and find, plus get more exercise, and I lost 10-15 lbs fairly quick.  Granted, I still have a semi spare tire on me and I've levelled off right now, but just losing that weight alone takes some pressure off my knees, esp when I could work for 12 hrs a night if we're busy.  Granted, I am a big guy ( 6' 2" - 6' 3") and the last time I was under 200 lbs was sophomore year in high school (lost 30 lbs in 1 month to try and impress a hottie that eventually wouldn't give the time of day).  Will I be under 200 again?  Who knows.  But if I keep adding muscle, I know I won't be, and even then, having muscle is a good thing.
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« Reply #97 on: May 26, 2009, 02:14:14 PM »

ROTFLMAO @ Rothscum's post  Cheesy Cheesy Tongue Cheesy Cheesy...Wink
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« Reply #98 on: May 26, 2009, 02:14:32 PM »

I want to get this book. Im like 20 lbs over weight and so is my wife. We have tried to go organic (not completely), but we have both lost almost 10 lbs each. I drink 100% raw whole milk now (not 2%) and have actually lost weight. I too dont eat much sweets anymore. I havent lost weight like you have though. What else can you tell us before I go buy his book? Thanks!

My last post btw was directed for you shirteesdotnet, cept I forgot to quote it.  But yea, if u got $20-$30, go get it.  Its so thick, its like an encyclopedia.
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« Reply #99 on: May 26, 2009, 02:15:27 PM »

I should add that Trudeau's people called Jones' office to ask if they could use the audio..why if he is banned from the media as he claimed?

Answer: he is not banned from the media but only from doing infomercials..more fraud and half-truth from Trudeau.

Trudeau contacted Jones for this interview then asked for permission to use the audio...does this sound like a free hour-long infomercial and publicity stunt to anyone else?


http://www.pulsemed.org/natural-cure-kevin-trudeau.htm
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« Reply #100 on: May 26, 2009, 02:16:27 PM »

I should add that Trudeau's people called Jones' office to ask if they could use the audio..why if he is banned from the media as he claimed?

Answer: he is not banned from the media but only from doing infomercials..more fraud and half-truth from Trudeau.

this guy was on playboy talk tv last week doing an infomercial on free money. every morning hes on comedy central paid adverts... whats he banned from again?
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« Reply #101 on: May 26, 2009, 02:17:13 PM »

Trudeau contacted Jones for this interview then asked for permission to use the audio...does this sound like a free hour-long infomercial and publicity stunt to anyone else?


http://www.pulsemed.org/natural-cure-kevin-trudeau.htm

Q... did this guy date and dump your sister in high school or something?

Thus far you've railed against Trudeau, like you have some personal vendetta, yet provide nothing to back up your claims.
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« Reply #102 on: May 26, 2009, 02:19:36 PM »

this guy was on playboy talk tv last week doing an infomercial on free money. every morning hes on comedy central paid adverts... whats he banned from again?

He's Banned for three years from tv, radio, news interviews.  However, he is not abiding by the judgment.  He is baiting them into another lawsuit.  He is still doing biz as he always has while holding his middle finger at the courts.



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« Reply #103 on: May 26, 2009, 02:19:51 PM »

Hey don't get me wrong - it was a grrrreeeaaat interview...very very revealing.

Trudeau did what he does best: insinuated himself into a role for the purpose of selling his products. He is a professional marketer and fraudster and actor.

Listen again to the interview. All the "confirmations" Trudeau conveniently provided were repetitions. He is a listener to the show..he just repeated back to Alex all the stuff he's being saying. What is more flattering than that? These are not confirmations of anything except that Trudeau has heard about this stuff just as we all have.

What do you really know about this guy apart from what he has told you? Remember who he is and what he is good at before buying into "Kevin Trudeau member of the elite"...did you hear him refer to the elites in the first person (pl).."we" do such and such.


These tactics are similar to what Dale Carnegie preaches. I have a brother in my family that does nothing but use Carnegie "tactics" on all my family members and they love him to death. Literally. He is now the trustee of my parents estate. Whenever I out him, no one believes me they are so wrapped up into my brothers BULLSH!T. All his friends are the same way also. They think he is a god or something. I once caught my brother smoking (he vows he hates smoking and smokers) on Easter morning with two lit cigarettes... one in each hand smoking away in the back of his house. I questioned a couple of his friends if he smoked and they all said they dont know, but his breath smelled like manure. HAHA. So I caught him lying (good christian man) to everyone that he doesnt smoke and NO ONE BELIEVED ME. How do you like that crap. My brother graduated from "Dale Carnegie University". Yes, there is such a thing. He is a master deceiver is what he is.
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« Reply #104 on: May 26, 2009, 02:21:14 PM »

They are going to look to their god Obaaaaaaaaaaaama to save them after they are all out on the street.
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« Reply #105 on: May 26, 2009, 02:23:59 PM »

Everything Kevin said was true.  Look how quick the keyboard spin doctors are on this interview.  Spin and lies.  He told the truth and instead of arguing the truth they go after the person?


True colors are showing and I am taking notes.



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« Reply #106 on: May 26, 2009, 02:25:52 PM »

They are going to look to their god Obaaaaaaaaaaaama to save them after they are all out on the street.

Don't you love how he confirmed the left-right paradigm!


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« Reply #107 on: May 26, 2009, 02:26:45 PM »

Trudeau contacted Jones for this interview then asked for permission to use the audio...does this sound like a free hour-long infomercial and publicity stunt to anyone else?

http://www.pulsemed.org/natural-cure-kevin-trudeau.htm

It does look like Q has something against him. If you want to question everything, you should also question the link you posted. It is just some website that basically uses his name and talks about his tactics to promote their own website. Its an SEO trick (SEO = search engine optimization).

Trudeau has a lot of interesting things to say. I wouldnt stop listening to his message, just becuase he scammed people. If you like the message, if it resonates with who you are and what you believe in, I dont see the harm. I try to eat organic, I have all my bills paid off ('cept the mortgage), and I want less government. This guy makes absolute sense. You are a slave if you have credit cards. He is just repackaging what others say and selling it. ANYONE can do this. The difference between him and you? He is the one doing it.
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« Reply #108 on: May 26, 2009, 02:27:13 PM »

this guy was on playboy talk tv last week doing an infomercial on free money. every morning hes on comedy central paid adverts... whats he banned from again?

My mistake, the 3 year infomercial ban expired in 2007.

Right now he is not banned from the media AT ALL as far as I can see. If I'm wrong I'll apologise but this media ban claim appears to be a TOTAL LIE!!
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« Reply #109 on: May 26, 2009, 02:29:54 PM »

Everything Kevin said was true.  Look how quick the keyboard spin doctors are on this interview.  Spin and lies.  He told the truth and instead of arguing the truth they go after the person?


True colors are showing and I am taking notes.



Rock

Rock, Im not discounting what anything Kevin said. Im just agreeing with Q on the point that he uses NLP techniques (neuro linguistic programming) and Carnegie tactics to get his point across. I personally am not a fan of those tactics as they have deeply affected my life. People should be aware of those sorts of schemes though. Im surprised Kevin uses them. His info is solid, he shouldnt need to use them. I guess he is trying to reach a big audience (and make sales).
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« Reply #110 on: May 26, 2009, 02:31:06 PM »

Q, you bring up some good points. Ignore the non-constructive criticism, as I'm sure you've found out before, this is generally the reaction a person gets when he questions a Patriot Messiah.
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« Reply #111 on: May 26, 2009, 02:34:34 PM »

Rock, Im not discounting what anything Kevin said. Im just agreeing with Q on the point that he uses NLP techniques (neuro linguistic programming) and Carnegie tactics to get his point across. I personally am not a fan of those tactics as they have deeply affected my life. People should be aware of those sorts of schemes though. Im surprised Kevin uses them. His info is solid, he shouldnt need to use them. I guess he is trying to reach a big audience (and make sales).

The message is what is solid.  A cheap salesman (except obama...lol) could not graduate to such a level of influence against the tide. He has sold 50,000,000 books that changed the life of millions for the good.  Anything he say's and does now can be conscripted as a technique to deliver more sales.

However, his sales equal a greater awakening.  Don't they use this same argument against Alex?

It's the message.


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« Reply #112 on: May 26, 2009, 02:38:01 PM »

Can anyone give us a summary of the interview?
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« Reply #113 on: May 26, 2009, 02:39:09 PM »

I'm glad to see people questioning the reliability of someone making a major claim: we can't take just anyone at face value when major claims are being made.  It is not the questioners who need proof, it is the one making the claims who needs to prove his claim (as in: extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof).  In any case, I didn't get the idea that Trudeau was claiming to be  Bilderberger, but, rather, a hobnobber with Bilderbergers and those who attend what Alex referred to as capillary meetings.  If the truth really is our only weapon, let's make sure we're not going into battle with a faulty armory by challenging every claimant, which is akin to not sending people to prison before trying the state's case against him.

But it was still very interesting.  Of his three things the elite most fear (get out of debt, stop voting for Democrats and Republicans, stop patronizing major corporations), it sounds like sound advice, to which I would add stop paying attention to corporate media (which obviously we've all already done!).  On the personal level, I join Bob Chapman in urging everyone to get out of the US dollar, and would add the point made on today's show about getting one of those atmospheric water systems (hopefully with an independent (i.e., solar) electricity source).
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« Reply #114 on: May 26, 2009, 02:39:38 PM »

Q, you bring up some good points. Ignore the non-constructive criticism, as I'm sure you've found out before, this is generally the reaction a person gets when he questions a Patriot Messiah.


 Huh


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« Reply #115 on: May 26, 2009, 02:41:56 PM »

If this guy really did attend Bilderberg, Alex should have asked him way more questions, like, who was there when he attended, what was discussed, do they really set policy?
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« Reply #116 on: May 26, 2009, 02:47:26 PM »

These tactics are similar to what Dale Carnegie preaches. I have a brother in my family that does nothing but use Carnegie "tactics" on all my family members and they love him to death. Literally. He is now the trustee of my parents estate. Whenever I out him, no one believes me they are so wrapped up into my brothers BULLSH!T. All his friends are the same way also. They think he is a god or something. I once caught my brother smoking (he vows he hates smoking and smokers) on Easter morning with two lit cigarettes... one in each hand smoking away in the back of his house. I questioned a couple of his friends if he smoked and they all said they dont know, but his breath smelled like manure. HAHA. So I caught him lying (good christian man) to everyone that he doesnt smoke and NO ONE BELIEVED ME. How do you like that crap. My brother graduated from "Dale Carnegie University". Yes, there is such a thing. He is a master deceiver is what he is.


FWIW - Amway uses alot of Dale Carnegie to motivate their sheeple. I was once in this cult briefly when I was in college - just about everything they do is NWO-ish. It's no coincidence that they use DC garbage.
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« Reply #117 on: May 26, 2009, 02:52:02 PM »

It does look like Q has something against him. If you want to question everything, you should also question the link you posted. It is just some website that basically uses his name and talks about his tactics to promote their own website. Its an SEO trick (SEO = search engine optimization).

Trudeau has a lot of interesting things to say. I wouldnt stop listening to his message, just becuase he scammed people. If you like the message, if it resonates with who you are and what you believe in, I dont see the harm. I try to eat organic, I have all my bills paid off ('cept the mortgage), and I want less government. This guy makes absolute sense. You are a slave if you have credit cards. He is just repackaging what others say and selling it. ANYONE can do this. The difference between him and you? He is the one doing it.

I've got nothing against the guy personally..but I tend not to like liars, conmen, fraudsters etc.

What you say is exactly right - Trudeau is a repeater, a repackager etc...After his criminal pyramid supplement selling scheme was wound up, he followed the trend and appended himself to the patriot movement for profit. He is telling you what you want to hear, repeating your own views back to you, mirroring. Very flattering and deceptive.

BTW, I included the link because it offers a free ebook instead of buying Trudeau's version.
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« Reply #118 on: May 26, 2009, 02:56:04 PM »



So I'm guessing it was "Q" that changed the name of the thread?  Is there a mod war going on in these forums?
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« Reply #119 on: May 26, 2009, 02:56:27 PM »



Reminds me of the lightweight who challenged me to a game of chess recently...was losing badly..so wanted an arm wrestle instead. (I whipped him at that too).
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