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Can you provide information as to where he has misrepresented himself as a doctor?
Look-- love him or hate him, his books were my eye-opener! Because of his directing me to; FDA deception and USDA deception and Big Pharma's deception, etc... I might not have decided to research things any further, had it not been for his books calling out all these deceivers. That being said, I am thankful that I was given his books to read.
This groupthink is unbelievable! Speaking for myself-- I do not bow down to the the altar of Kevin Trudeau, any more than I bow down to the altar of Alex Jones. I listen to the message and learn from it and I'm grateful there are people like them out there!
Can a person not redeem himself in any of your eyes? As far as his GIN memberships, whether or not it is a scam--are any of you going to join? Do you think some poor schlep is going to gamble his life savings to get information from GIN? And if he does, then what? It's good to alert people to deceptive practices just as Trudeau has done to help millions of people who have read his books and listen to his radio show--but for goodness sakes folks, there are more damning issues out there then to continue this body snatcher, groupthink pointing fingers! Get over it!
Redemption would involve him being able to admit his wrong doing, being contrite about it, and ceasing to continue his actions that are negative. He cannot seem to do those things though. As for groupthink; well, it’s good to see that you are misrepresenting the facts, just like your KT idol seems to do on occasion. The people here who are speaking out against him and have developed their own opinions on that crook. We’ve done our own research, even if we found negativity towards him. I suspect were you to find anything negative, you’d simply gush like a school-girl at all the so called good he has done. But us having opinions contrary to yours is NOT groupthink. Your thinking is more akin to groupthink/ hero-worship than anything, because you are willing to forgive any evil he might commit just to make yourself feel better about what he does. As for proof of the impersonation; I have no idea what in your mind would constitute proof or what your personal burden of proof is. However he did it while passing fraudulent checks to the tune of $80K. Here is an article that enumerates the details; http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/22/AR2005102201272_3.htmlIt’s wonderful and all that he woke you up. But your savior, is a crook, no matter how you feel about him. He’s more of a detractor to the movement than he is a boon. So no, I shan’t “get over it.” To me, he IS a damning issue, because somebody might lump him in with the rest of us, and that would discredit any chance of waking them up. And his GIN network, is nothing more than an ongoing pyramid scheme, which just goes to show he is not repentant for his crimes, sins, or errors. If he is the quality of your heroes, I shudder to see who you would villify. |
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The resistance starts here. Unfortunately, the entire thing is moving beyond the intellectual infowar. I vow I will not make an overt rush at violent authority, until authority makes it's violent rush at me and you. I will not falter, I will not die in this course. For that is how they win.
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« Reply #1241 on: April 02, 2010, 08:06:21 PM » |
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The whole GIN leveled membership / leveled secret knowledge / impossibly expensive "perks" for an undoubtedly ever increasing fee that can only be revealed once you have ascended to the next level sounds an awful lot like the whole Scientologist structure of membership, "perks", secret knowledge, and power.
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« Reply #1242 on: April 02, 2010, 08:25:39 PM » |
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Redemption would involve him being able to admit his wrong doing, being contrite about it, and ceasing to continue his actions that are negative. He cannot seem to do those things though. As for groupthink; well, it’s good to see that you are misrepresenting the facts, just like your KT idol seems to do on occasion. The people here who are speaking out against him and have developed their own opinions on that crook. We’ve done our own research, even if we found negativity towards him. I suspect were you to find anything negative, you’d simply gush like a school-girl at all the so called good he has done. But us having opinions contrary to yours is NOT groupthink. Your thinking is more akin to groupthink/ hero-worship than anything, because you are willing to forgive any evil he might commit just to make yourself feel better about what he does. As for proof of the impersonation; I have no idea what in your mind would constitute proof or what your personal burden of proof is. However he did it while passing fraudulent checks to the tune of $80K. Here is an article that enumerates the details; http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/22/AR2005102201272_3.htmlIt’s wonderful and all that he woke you up. But your savior, is a crook, no matter how you feel about him. He’s more of a detractor to the movement than he is a boon. So no, I shan’t “get over it.” To me, he IS a damning issue, because somebody might lump him in with the rest of us, and that would discredit any chance of waking them up. And his GIN network, is nothing more than an ongoing pyramid scheme, which just goes to show he is not repentant for his crimes, sins, or errors. If he is the quality of your heroes, I shudder to see who you would villify. Thank you for providing information from such a trustworthy MSM newspaper, but I submit to you; that regardless of his indiscretions, I try to look at the bigger picture-- look whom he is going up against. Now, think for a minute and tell me that going after Big Pharma and some of the corrupt government alphabet agencies out there, that he is not a prime target to be discredited and taken down with whatever means necessary they can use to do so? Again, you tell me that you do not use groupthink yet you say this: " He’s more of a detractor to the movement than he is a boon. So no, I shan’t “get over it.” To me, he IS a damning issue, because somebody might lump him in with the rest of us, and that would discredit any chance of waking them up." Gee, I thought the way to wake people up was to provide facts and talk about things you have the best knowledge in, not by carrying a card around saying, "I with such and such movement." I am a huge supporter in leaderless resistance, myself. I know what the globalist are trying to do to us, and I appreciate Trudeau out there talking/writing about how they are deliberately poisoning us with; fluoride, MSG, Aspartame, psychotropic drugs and other pharmaceutical drugs, and genetically modified foods, just to name a few. So, in my humble gushy school-girl opinion, I am willing to listen to his message with an open mind and further my knowledge by researching the claims. For the record, Kevin Trudeau is not my savior--I only have one, and he is Jesus Christ. |
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« Reply #1243 on: April 03, 2010, 05:33:02 AM » |
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So now we are suppose to listen to what washington times is telling us?
IF I wanted to, I could go on google and find 999999999999999999 negative horror stories about Alex Jones, including from sources like washington times... but I don't, because I try to judge people by their fruits and I know that there are a lot of disinfo out there.
Sometimes you might even be able to judge people by their enemies.
NO Kevin Trudeau is not Perfect and yes he's marketing techniques at times surely are similair to the establishment.
But i don't think the things Mark Dice pointed out means that, in the end, Kevin Trudeau's final information is false.
We know he has published a lot of great information about memmory, health and so on. The most important thing should be the information he gives out itself.
If it's true or not.
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« Reply #1244 on: April 03, 2010, 05:36:49 AM » |
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I think this debate is Meaningless!
What would possible come out of it? It's a dead end!
We have a New World Order to fight goddammit!!!!
The enemies of freedom are lauging as we fight meaningless battles with eachother!
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« Reply #1245 on: April 03, 2010, 08:28:23 AM » |
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So now we are suppose to listen to what washington times is telling us?
This was dripping with sarcasm-- " Thank you for providing information from such a trustworthy MSM newspaper..." Guess I should have put "  " in there somewhere. |
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« Reply #1246 on: April 07, 2010, 03:06:21 AM » |
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I think this debate is Meaningless!
What would possible come out of it? It's a dead end!
We have a New World Order to fight goddammit!!!!
The enemies of freedom are lauging as we fight meaningless battles with eachother!
Well Jesse Ventura is a guest this week on Kevin's radio show. I don't think Jesse would go on Kevin's show if he was a fraud. |
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« Reply #1247 on: April 08, 2010, 09:07:51 AM » |
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I thought I would post this information for anyone who would like to listen:
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On BlogtalkRadio.com/FreedomizerRadio every Sunday Night!
Dr. Rima Reports - Sunday, April 11, 2010, 10 PM-Midnight Eastern Time
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« Reply #1248 on: April 08, 2010, 09:28:59 AM » |
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Finally someone I respect lays it all out. Thanks!
Well, it would appear that several members on this forum, who perhaps Sane does not respect, "laid it all out" here back last May...just after Trudeau appeared on Jones' show the first time (Trudeau appeared again last Fall). Here's the link to that lengthy thread: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=107763With regards to Ventura appearing on Trudeau's show, or Trudeau appearing on Rima Laibow's show, I'm not at all convinced that these appearances prove that Trudeau is not a fraud. Quite the contrary. As a matter of fact, I find all three of these individuals to be nothing but distractions, and all three to be highly suspect. Wake up sheoples, because as Mr. Swe so kindly put it... I think this debate is Meaningless!
What would possible come out of it? It's a dead end!
We have a New World Order to fight goddammit!!!!
The enemies of freedom are lauging as we fight meaningless battles with eachother!
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« Reply #1249 on: April 09, 2010, 10:13:30 PM » |
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« Reply #1250 on: April 09, 2010, 10:17:24 PM » |
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Seriously... WTF  Why do you so diligently go on promoting scam artist and felon Kevin Trudeau on this here forum? Are you being paid to do so? Many quality members have been banned from this here forum for far less. |
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« Reply #1251 on: April 09, 2010, 10:19:47 PM » |
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Seriously... WTF Why do you so diligently go on promoting scam artist and felon Kevin Trudeau on this here forum? Are you being paid to do so? Many quality members have been banned from this here forum for far less. Banned for what? I watched the show and it was highly informative and had plenty of very important health and political information. And who are you Mr. 26 posts? I've been on this forum for years and I don't see any reason why I'd be banned for linking to a radio show broadcast. Alex Jones supports Trudeau and his been on his show more than once as Trudeau has been on his. Give me a break and maybe take a listen to the show. Jesse Ventura is a guest as well as Ron Paul has been on the show multiple times and many other prominent people including Judge Napalitano. |
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« Reply #1252 on: April 09, 2010, 10:23:25 PM » |
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Banned for what? I watched the show and it was highly informative and had plenty of very important health and political information. And who are you Mr. 26 posts? I've been on this forum for years and I don't see any reason why I'd be banned for linking to a radio show broadcast. Alex Jones supports Trudeau and his been on his show more than once as Trudeau has been on his. Give me a break and maybe take a listen to the show.
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« Reply #1253 on: April 09, 2010, 10:26:31 PM » |
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Whatever. Good luck with that. Good luck with what? The obvious outright lies and slander by the mainstream media against Trudeau looks like it has stuck on you. You really should take a listen to his show before saying he is a scammer. |
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« Reply #1254 on: April 09, 2010, 10:33:18 PM » |
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Good luck with what? The obvious outright lies and slander by the mainstream media against Trudeau looks like it has stuck on you. You really should take a listen to his show before saying he is a scammer.
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« Reply #1255 on: April 09, 2010, 10:49:11 PM » |
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I outed the fuk a year ago. Don't even waste your time tryin to sell me. Now, run along.
Outed him? Tell me more. Like John Stossel the liar? |
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« Reply #1256 on: April 09, 2010, 10:55:09 PM » |
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Outed him? Tell me more. Like John Stossel the liar?
Wait, hold on...you're calling John Stossel a liar? Because if you are, then I have to put ALL mainstream media into the BULLSHIT category. Seriously, this is depressing. Stossel was one of the few, along with Dylan Ratigan, who I thought was still on the side of the people. You got proof Stossel's a liar? |
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« Reply #1257 on: April 09, 2010, 11:11:02 PM » |
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Wait, hold on...you're calling John Stossel a liar? Because if you are, then I have to put ALL mainstream media into the BULLSHIT category.
Seriously, this is depressing. Stossel was one of the few, along with Dylan Ratigan, who I thought was still on the side of the people.
You got proof Stossel's a liar?
Well listen to the show just before the one I linked to. John Stossel now works for Fox News and when interviewed by Bill O'Reilly he said its crazy that tap water is bad for you. Now I know you know tap water is actually poisonous. So there is a lie but also the BS he said about Trudeau in his hit piece on him a few years back just makes me sick. Stossel is a liar plain and simple and I enjoy so much more watching that video from the 80's where he pissed off a pro wrestler and got slapped around. |
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« Reply #1258 on: April 09, 2010, 11:16:40 PM » |
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Well listen to the show just before the one I linked to. John Stossel now works for Fox News and when interviewed by Bill O'Reilly he said its crazy that tap water is bad for you. Now I know you know tap water is actually poisonous. So there is a lie but also the BS he said about Trudeau in his hit piece on him a few years back just makes me sick. Stossel is a liar plain and simple and I enjoy so much more watching that video from the 80's where he pissed off a pro wrestler and got slapped around.
OK, now we're talking! You are correct to point at me and say "I know you know tap water is actually poisonous". So, we now have some mutual respect. I still haven't seen reason to believe Trudeau is worthy, but you apparently are...so long as you're not a cult member of Trudeau's secret global information network (GIN) "brotherhood" cult. But...I suspect you are. Am I wrong |
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« Reply #1259 on: April 09, 2010, 11:22:32 PM » |
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OK, now we're talking! You are correct to point at me and say "I know you know tap water is actually poisonous". So, we now have some mutual respect. I still haven't seen reason to believe Trudeau is worthy, but you apparently are...so long as you're not a cult member of Trudeau's secret global information network (GIN) "brotherhood" cult. But...I suspect you are. Am I wrong No I'm not part of his GIN. I don't know much about it but it seems to be a club where he treats the small amount of members to some exclusive meetings and trips and information. There is nothing wrong with that I believe. It is a legit club, he has taken members on trips and has people come to speak at private meetings. At least he is promoting truth as far as I can see. Sure he is a master marketer and loves making money but if you can do it while slapping the face of the mainstream media and telling people important information, more power to him. |
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« Reply #1260 on: April 09, 2010, 11:28:48 PM » |
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« Reply #1261 on: April 09, 2010, 11:30:46 PM » |
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Well I was waiting for an intelligent response. Guess this is all I could hope for. |
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« Reply #1262 on: April 09, 2010, 11:34:25 PM » |
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Well I was waiting for an intelligent response. Guess this is all I could hope for.
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« Reply #1263 on: April 09, 2010, 11:35:20 PM » |
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Hey, life is like a box of chocolates...
Ok Forrest. |
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« Reply #1264 on: April 10, 2010, 12:38:48 AM » |
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Seriously does anyone on this forum think Kevin's radio show is wrong or is a scam? I don't see how you could if you listen to his show. I don't understand why so little respect for him especially from Mark Dice who I respect.
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« Reply #1265 on: April 10, 2010, 01:29:08 AM » |
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Ian... chuckle... he thrives on "outing" people and things...
He tends to be like a fire fighter that is also an arsonist...
He starts a fire in a house and then runs in and saves one or two of the folks inside before the place burns down...
and is seen as a hero in the eyes of some... not all however...
Notice that he never puts up an argument, to defend his position after he challenges yours, he just throws up an emoticon smoke screen and chortles away like a clown.
Just for fun, ask him sometime how many feet of water there is in the air if it were to all condense out...
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« Reply #1266 on: April 10, 2010, 01:33:57 AM » |
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Ian... chuckle... he thrives on "outing" people and things...
He tends to be like a fire fighter that is also an arsonist...
He starts a fire in a house and then runs in and saves one or two of the folks inside before the place burns down...
and is seen as a hero in the eyes of some... not all however...
Notice that he never puts up an argument, to defend his position after he challenges yours, he just throws up an emoticon smoke screen and chortles away like a clown.
Just for fun, ask him sometime how many feet of water there is in the air if it were to all condense out...
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Kevin Trudeau sells memberships to Illuminati for $1,000 Kevin Trudeau Exposed
By Mark Dice
author of The Illuminati: Facts & Fiction
and The New World Order: Facts & Fiction
Kevin Trudeau is a man that almost everyone in America has seen on TV (whether they know his name or not) over the last ten years pitching various products on infomercials such as health and anti-aging products, and methods to get “free money.” He is an extraordinary salesman and could sell ice to Eskimos, as the cliché goes. He has been labeled the “infomercial king” due to the massive hours of airtime and the large number of different products he has pitched over the years.
As a follow up to his best selling book Natural Cures ‘They’ Don’t Want You to Know About (2005), he published More Natural ‘Cures’ Revealed (2006) where he claims to have been a member of a secret society, strongly hinting he is referring to the Illuminati, and that through his membership in this society, he learned how the world really worked, including how drug companies were suppressing natural cures for diseases in order to allow them to sell more drugs to treat those diseases, instead of allowing people to be cured.
Trudeau alleges that because of his drive for wealth and his knowledge of the human mind, that he was approached by members of a powerful “secret society” and asked to join. Trudeau writes, “As a member of this secret society I have sat in private meetings with heads of state from countries around the world. I have attended secret international business meetings where business leaders, politicians, and media moguls coerce together to create the new world order with global control over individual people everywhere.” (page 11)
He says that as a member of this society, he worked covertly for the wealthiest families on earth. During his alleged involvement he says he made hundreds of millions of dollars and lived a life many could only dream. “Members of this society includes politicians, captains of industry, news journalists, celebrities, musicians, writers, scientists, law enforcement officials, movie stars, and more,” he says. (page 13)
He goes on to write that after he became a member, he discovered the society had two groups, and that one was evil, and the other good, and both were using the organization’s advanced knowledge and power to influence the world.
“I was on the dark side doing evil; now I have repented, changed my ways, and turned my life around…Now I am going against the masters that I once served. I am telling people the truth about Big Pharma, the food industry, the oil industry, governments, and the media,” Trudeau claims. (page 13)
During an interview on the Alex Jones Show on May 26, 2009, a very convincing Trudeau discussed his knowledge of the Bohemian Grove and other secret societies, and claimed to have attended the Bilderberg meeting that year in Greece. Trudeau has an extremely checkered past, including a conviction for fraud and larceny which resulted in him serving time in prison. He has also been banned by the Federal Trade Commission from selling products on TV. He is still allowed to sell books and audio recordings, which he continues to do, because it is considered selling information, not a physical product such as magic pills or creams.
In this same book, More Natural ‘Cures’ Revealed, he claims during his prison sentence, he spend most of his time at the officer’s club at Edwards Air Force base eating “the finest food in the club,” instead of in a prison cell, all because he was a member of this secret society. He then adds, “The society needed me to go to prison for a very specific mission.” So what he’s saying is that the “society,” later referred to as “the Brotherhood,” needed him to commit credit card fraud by stealing his customer’s credit card numbers and using them in a fraudulent way because the Brotherhood “needed” him to go to prison for a “mission.”
Certainly the Illuminati is real, and has unimaginable power and wealth, and operates through secret societies and private networks, but one must seriously wonder whether Kevin Trudeau was actually involved with them, or if he is simply aware of them as many people are, and has fabricated his alleged affiliation with them in attempts to bolster his creditability as an elite insider hoping to sell more books.
As if Trudeau’s claims weren’t already hard enough to believe, they get much, much stranger. He also wrote, “I have been to Area 51 in Nevada. This is where much of our technology has been developed. Area 51 houses most extraterrestrial artifacts, including a working spacecraft and dead alien bodies. I have seen these things with my own eyes.” (page 11)
Trudeau cuts his discussion on his alleged involvement with the Brotherhood and aliens brief in his More Natural ‘Cures’ Revealed book, but states that unless he is the victim of an “unforeseen accident” that he will discuss this “secret society” in detail in a future book he planed to write.
At the end of 2009, Trudeau launched a new infomercial for an audio series titled Your Wish is Your Command where he claimed to teach magical methods of the ‘law of attraction’ found in The Secret DVD produced by Rhonda Byrne in 2006 which discusses mystical ideas about how your own thoughts and beliefs can metaphysically alter your physical reality.
The infomercial was designed to look like an ordinary talk show with Trudeau as the guest and can be viewed in its entirety on YouTube. He starts of by saying that when he was 15 years old, he was exposed to a secret society called ‘the Brotherhood’ that took him in and taught him how to use The Secret and that he made millions of dollars before he was 18 years old. He attended St. Mary’s High School in Lynn, Massachusetts, where he was voted most likely to succeed from the class of 1981.
Instead of simply ripping off The Secret, Trudeau cleverly decided to mix secret societies in with his sales pitch, since he knows a growing segment of the population are highly interested in researching them.
In the infomercial, he says, “Quite frankly, these are the same techniques that members of Skull and Bones have learned from Yale University; the Bilderberg group, some people may be familiar with some of these organizations…the power elite. When you get to the highest level in Freemasonry, the 33rd degree level of Freemasonry…these are secrets of these various associations and societies on how to, we call it manipulating energy, it’s really just how to beam the frequency in your brain of what you want so it will come into your life.”
He went on to say that all the books, such as Napoleon Hill’s classic, Think and Grow Rich, the Power of Positive Thinking, and others, were missing the “key ingredient” which makes these mystical ideas work, and only his audio program would reveal them. During part of his sales pitch he even says, “If a guy is watching this right now and doesn’t get the Your Wish is Your Command program, they’ll always be a loser.”
The host asks him why the wealthy people in the past didn’t want others to know this information (a scripted and preplanned question, of course) to which he answers, “when you’re in Skull and Bones, the secret society, or the highest levels of Freemasonry, or the Bilderberg group or the Trilateral Commission or the Counsel on Foreign Relations, or the Brotherhood like I was a member of, you’re basically a part of a group that believes ‘we want to keep this information to ourselves, we don’t want competition.’”
He later claims he left the Brotherhood in 1999 because he didn’t believe that the information should be kept from everyone else and makes it clear that the audience has to “call today” and they’ll get his 14 CD program at 70% off the “regular price” of $1,000. “I would just really encourage people to take advantage of this secret knowledge on how to have, be, or do whatever they want.” He also says he has received death threats on his life from the Brotherhood for revealing these “secrets.”
Shortly after this infomercial, he starred in another infomercial (with a different host) for the same product, but this time the show had the usual graphics on the screen with the website and product information like you see on the Home Shopping Club or the QVC channel. The first version of the infomercial must not have been effective in generating sales because he went with a different approach and made it too much like a TV talk show and didn’t go in for the hard sell like he usually does where he holds up his product and pitches it directly at the camera every few minutes as he speaks right to the audience.
In this new infomercial, he says with the purchase of his CDs comes a ticket to join “a very elite society” which he calls a global network of wealthy affluent people. He emphasizes that you can’t join, except by invitation only, and he’ll send you the invitation if you purchase his CDs for $300.
He also claims people who have paid the regular price of $1,000 have written to him and said how much they loved the program, but the thing is, he never sold it at the full price, but like most scams, it’s always “on sale for a limited time only.”
I have actually listened to the entire 14 CDs, approximately one hour each, as I sat painfully waiting for something of any value to be said, but there was nothing. For most of the 14 hours I was extremely bored and had to force myself to keep listening, and occasionally I sat in awe at Trudeau’s marvelous ability to sound like he was talking about something of incredible importance, when in reality he was just regurgitating a wide variety of analogies that have been used by self-help gurus for decades.
There were some obvious truisms that weren’t even thought provoking, and then I noticed a discussion Trudeau obviously learned from Brian Tracey (an alleged friend of Trudeau’s) about the four levels of learning, ranging from unconscious competence, to conscious incompetence, to conscious competence, to unconscious competence. I remembered this from an audio series I had of Brian Tracey that I first listened to when I was 18 years old. While Trudeau is an extraordinary salesman, he is a terrible teacher and a pathetic motivational speaker.
The “exclusive society” that Trudeau claims to invite people to who purchase his CD program is called the Global Information Network, not to be confused with Global Information Network, Ltd., a non-profit news agency started in 1986 in New York City which specializes in news from Africa.
Trudeau’s website, GlobalInformationNetwork.com describes his organization as being, “conceived by a group of individuals from around the world who are the highest ranking members of several private societies, associations, clubs, and groups whose membership has been exclusive to the privileged elite class of the world,” including members of the Illuminati, Skull and Bones, the Bilderberg Group, the Bohemian Club, the Trilateral Commission, Freemasons, the CFR, and the Brotherhood. I’m serious. It actually lists all of these organizations on their website, claiming members of these groups are members of the Global Information Network.
It then reads that, “For the first time in human history, the highest ranking members of these secret societies have encouraged the formation of a new, private, member only group that allows people who do not qualify to become members of the above listed societies to join together and be exposed to the same secrets revealed and taught to members of those societies and clubs.”
The text then goes on to say that a New World Order is forming that “is designed to increase the gap between the wealthy and the average working man” and that “GIN does not agree with this movement” and they believe “EVERY person has the right to know the secrets of creating the life they want and enjoying freedom, pursuing happiness, and achieving all their dreams and desires.”
After reading this description there is a large link that says, “Join.” Pretty strange, since in his infomercial Trudeau said it was by invitation only. When you click on the Join button you are taken to a page where you were asked to enter your name, address, phone number, and credit card number.
The text at the top of the page reads, “I want to apply for membership in the Global Information Network (GIN). Please charge my credit card listed below $1,000 for my membership initiation dues. Please charge my credit card listed below $150 each month for ongoing membership dues. I understand that I may cancel my membership at any time, but all membership dues paid are non-refundable.”
I’m not kidding. It is $1,000 to join his “society” and $150 a month after that. I haven’t found anyone who admitted to paying the $1,000 dollar “initiation fee” to join this “exclusive society” but I can imagine that the only thing people get who join is access to an online forum where they can chat with other dupes who also paid the $1,000. In his Your Wish is Your Command program he says that “members” will get several CDs and books shipped to them each month as part of their membership to further their education on the “law of attraction.”
(UPDATE: They have changed the website slightly since I began writing this analysis of Kevin Trudeau. Now the Join button takes you to a page where you are asked to enter in the “affiliate code” of the person who “invited” you to join, meaning the person trying to dupe you into spending the $1,000 so they can get a $200 commission from being an affiliate. More on the affiliate program in a bit. I simply typed in Kevin as the affiliate code and it accepted it and took me to the payment page asking for my $1,000 initiation fee. I also tried Trudeau as the affiliate code, and it worked as well.)
The insanity doesn’t end here. There are 12 “levels” of “membership” in this “society” and the website lists them as:
Level 1 Member
Level 2 Member
Level 3 Member
Level 4 Member
Level 5 Member
Executive Member
Senior Officer
Director
Presidents Club
Chairman's Club
Inner Circle
Partner
There is a section for a description and “member benefits” for each “level” but all the details, including the costs were marked “classified information,” except for the $1,000 initiation fee to join.
The site claims, “Members must qualify for each membership level by meeting specific requirements and being approved by the Global Information Network membership acceptance committee. Each higher membership level in GIN gives the member additional classified benefits, substantial cash bonuses, and other financial and monetary rewards.” I have a sneaking suspicion that in order to “qualify” for the next level, all you need to do is pay a large amount of money without your credit card being declined.
The site says that the “requirements” for the next level are revealed in the previous level, but insists that although the “benefits” are “classified and confidential,” they, “may include cash bonuses of over 1 million dollars, all expense paid exotic vacations, one-on-one mentoring with high level GIN members, monthly residual payments of over $100,000, luxury automobiles, private jets, and more.” The key word here is “may.” They “may” include these incredible benefits. This one little word can avoid Trudeau from getting sued again for making false claims.
Trudeau’s attempt to get money out of gullible people doesn’t end here. He has set up an “affiliate program” which encourages people to convince their friends to pay the $1,000 “initiation” fee. A YouTube video advertising the Global Information Network had the following description, “For The First Time In The History Of Mankind, The Illuminati Is Opening Their Doors To Qualified People.” This was from someone who signed up as an affiliate and was trying to lure people to join so they could get a $200 commission through the website’s affiliate program designed to pull in new “members.”
The GIN website boasts, “Affiliates could potentially earn hundreds of thousands of dollars in commissions,” and immediately includes a disclaimer saying, “Individual results will vary. There are no guarantees that you will make any sales or make any money as an affiliate.”
If this doesn’t sound like a good enough reason to pay the $1,000 initiation fee, they claim that, “members could be given hundreds of thousands of dollars in surprise bonuses” as they qualify for various levels within the GIN membership organization and you could get, “All expense paid trips to exotic locations around the world, luxury automobiles, private jet trips, and more,” a claim which is immediately followed by another disclaimer saying, “Legally we are required to say that there are no guarantees that you will earn money as an Affiliate or a member of the Global Information Network.”
And if this still doesn’t sound good enough to get someone to join, they insist, “this is just the tip of the iceberg. Surprising as it seems, the majority of member benefits are not discussed here. The most significant members benefits are confidential and only revealed to members.”
The site claims that members will have access to, “experts, the powerful and affluent, celebrities, professional athletes, authors, scientists, politicians, successful business people, doctors and medical experts, leaders in various fields, plus many others.”
Basically, Trudeau is trying to sell a $1,000 membership (and $150 a month) to his own “secret society.” Trudeau has carefully crafted an image of being an insider to groups like the Illuminati who is “leaking” the secrets to the average Joe who also dreams of being rich and powerful.
Trudeau is, in my opinion, obviously an extraordinary liar and con artist and has fabricated his alleged connections with the Illuminati and the Bilderberg group just like others such as William Schnoebelen and John Todd who I expose as frauds in detail in my book, The Illuminati: Facts & Fiction.
As I painfully sat listening to hour after hour of Your Wish is Your Command, even in the fourth hour of the program he is still heavily promoting membership in the GIN. The live audience members of his program allegedly paid $10,000 to hear his speech, which he recorded and sells for $300 in the infomercial where he promises that it contains the missing ingredient from The Secret and all similar programs, but he spends an extended period of time on the CDs talking about how the real secrets will only be revealed to high level members of the Global Information Network.
If only Trudeau would have moved to Hollywood decades ago, he could have perhaps earned hundreds of millions of dollars as an Oscar winning actor and would have avoided countless legal troubles with the Federal Trade Commission and others.
In his audio recordings, he just keeps repeating himself every 30 minutes or so and must have said, “you can have, be or do, anything you want” at least 50 times. What makes Trudeau such an interesting character is that he ingeniously mixes factual information with exaggerations, and in my opinion, out-right lies. That’s what a good con artist does. They give you mostly legitimate information that is verifiable, which gains your trust, and then mix in the lies in order to screw you. The term con man is actually short for confidence man, which means a person who builds the target’s confidence up in order to take advantage of them in a fraudulent manor once their trust has been gained.
I’m sure that some of the information in Trudeau’s Natural ‘Cures’ books, and getting out of debt books, is legitimate and useful, and perhaps has helped a fair number of people get healthier and manage their finances better. But the extraordinary claims of seeing alien bodies in the Area 51 hanger, and being recruited for an elite secret society when he was 15 years old and having to go to prison for a mission to help them are truly ridiculous.
If anyone is dumb enough to buy into his $1,000 “initiation” fee to join his “elite society” which he claims has members of the Illuminati and Bohemian Grove as a part of it, then those people are truly gullible fools who are blinded by their own desperate hopes of becoming rich without having to work hard.
Trudeau’s claims of affiliation with an elite secret society, and his carefully crafted Global Information Network clearly show him to be concerned more with fooling gullible people out of large amounts of money than helping anyone get cured from any disease, in this author’s opinion.
While he may discuss various home remedies in his “Natural Cures” books, and tout them as ‘cures’ for diseases, many health professionals are concerned that people with real illnesses will take his advice and abandon traditional medical treatment for what may be very serious diseases. The fact that Trudeau has been a pitchman for a wide variety of products, all of which play off people’s basic desires to be healthy, look beautiful, or to get out of debt, show that he has a knack for presenting easy solutions to difficult problems.
He and his supporters will likely point to his unconditional money back guarantee which attempts to eliminate any lingering doubts that viewers may have bout his claims, because they just think to themselves that he must be telling the truth, or he wouldn’t be offering a money back guarantee. Marketers can tell you that an extremely small percentage of people will take the time and effort to return a product they bought from TV, because they have to package it back up and ship it back, which is why such strategies are often employed. Such strategies count on, and are successful, because people most often will let the 30 days go by without realizing it, and then the window for getting a refund has closed.
Finally, I will point out that in his More Natural ‘Cures’ Revealed book where he first claims he was a member of an elite secret society and offers cures for all kinds of diseases, on the page immediately following the Table of Contents, it actually has a page titled, “DISCLAIMER” and is followed by a paragraph reading in part, “This book is considered by some a work of fiction, yet inspired by a true story. The truth is sprinkled in to spice things up. On occasion, names, dates, and events have been changed or made up for fun.” It goes in to say the book is, “for entertainment purposes only.” (page vii) How clever of Trudeau for including this legal disclaimer which hardly anyone will even notice which attempts to protect him from the legal ramifications of the claims he is making. So if you believe Trudeau’s wild tales of attending Bilderberg meetings and being connected to the Illuminati, may I remind you that in his own words he admits that it is all for “entertainment purposes only.”
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« Reply #1273 on: April 12, 2010, 04:59:40 AM » |
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Is there somthin funny? "What do ya mean, funny? I mean, funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh... I'm here to f*ckin' amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?" lol good quote |
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« Reply #1274 on: June 25, 2010, 12:44:05 AM » |
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So Trudeau has a new infomercial "Your Wish is Your Command" based upon the ideas of 'secret' knowledge, Law of Attraction etc...saying that Napoleon Hill (i.e. Think and Grow Rich) was hired by Andrew Carnegie to study the world's richest people and write about them...then he goes on to say that all of the richest people in the world back then were members of secret societies and that he (Trudeau) himself was a member of a Secret Society called "The Brotherhood" from the 1980's up until about 1999....
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This guy is so full of it. He wasn't in any brotherhood, he wasn't at Bilderberg in Greece and he didn't see any f**king aliens. I'm glad Alex has stopped having this con artist on his show.
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« Reply #1277 on: August 28, 2010, 10:02:50 PM » |
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I swear there was a thread on this trudeau guy a while ago and we all came to the same conclusion.
like 80% sure.
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I knew this guy was full of sh%t and said so when he was on AJ's show a couple of years ago.He said he was at Bilderberg ,then he brought out someweb site (actually its the one that dice talks about,its pyramid scheme),and was trying to scam everyone,what a tool!
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« Reply #1279 on: August 31, 2010, 01:52:29 PM » |
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I remember that thread.
Trudeau has a great pyramid scheme going with Global Information network.
Great for HIM,
not for us.
Pay $1000 to learn the secrets of mind control you can use on others.
Then pay your next large fee for the next secrets...
It is too much like EST !
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