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What Henry Kissinger said about Greece in 1974
« on: April 27, 2010, 06:20:40 pm »
The Greek people are anarchic and difficult to tame. For this reason we must strike deep into their cultural roots: Perhaps then we can force them to conform. I mean, of course, to strike at their language, their religion, their cultural and historical reserves, so that we can neutralize their ability to develop, to distinguish themselves, or to prevail; thereby removing them as an obstacle to our strategically vital plans in the Balkans, the Mediterranean, and the Middle East.

(As reported in the popular Greek magazine, Oikonomikos Tachydromos on 14 Aug. l997, Henry Kissinger, while addressing a group of Washington, D.C. businessmen in Sept.1974)

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Re: What Henry Kissinger said about Greece in 1974
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2010, 06:23:06 pm »
The Greek people are anarchic and difficult to tame. For this reason we must strike deep into their cultural roots: Perhaps then we can force them to conform. I mean, of course, to strike at their language, their religion, their cultural and historical reserves, so that we can neutralize their ability to develop, to distinguish themselves, or to prevail; thereby removing them as an obstacle to our strategically vital plans in the Balkans, the Mediterranean, and the Middle East.

(As reported in the popular Greek magazine, Oikonomikos Tachydromos on 14 Aug. l997, Henry Kissinger, while addressing a group of Washington, D.C. businessmen in Sept.1974)

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Re: What Henry Kissinger said about Greece in 1974
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2010, 06:27:45 pm »
can anyone find this on their actual website and get the original greek quote?

this is being linked everywhere without an actual source.

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Re: What Henry Kissinger said about Greece in 1974
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2010, 06:30:10 pm »
All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately

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Re: What Henry Kissinger said about Greece in 1974
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2010, 08:15:27 pm »
Amazing.

The American [ / Greek / fill in the blank]  people are anarchic and difficult to tame. For this reason we must strike deep into their cultural roots: Perhaps then we can force them to conform. I mean, of course, to strike at their language, their religion, their cultural and historical reserves, so that we can neutralize their ability to develop, to distinguish themselves, or to prevail; thereby removing them as an obstacle to our strategically vital plans...

(As reported in the popular Greek magazine, Oikonomikos Tachydromos on 14 Aug. l997, Henry Kissinger, while addressing a group of Washington, D.C. businessmen in Sept.1974)


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Re: What Henry Kissinger said about Greece in 1974
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2010, 08:58:17 pm »
Amazing.

Indeed...if it's legit.

I just did some searching and found an interesting blog article by a guy named Nick Sarantakos (or perhaps Nikos Sarandakos?), who supposedly is a translator for the European Parliament. Here's a link to his article, titled "The myth of the statement by Kissinger", which he wrote back in November 2009:

In Greek: http://sarantakos.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/kisinger1/

Translated into English: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=el&u=http://sarantakos.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/kisinger1/&ei=0IPXS4fWIpDUtgO8u6iYBg&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAgQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://sarantakos.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/kisinger1/%26hl%3Den

Mr. Sarantakos explains here that the quote in question first appeared in Greece in 1987 in a newspaper editorial written by some nationalist lawyer, and it then got a wider audience in 1997 in a monthly magazine that is published by Liana Kanneli, journalist and later Communist Party MP. When asked for proof of the quote, Kanelli said she got it from "Turkish Daily News", but couldn't provide proof because the issue had supposedly disappeared, both the print and electronic versions. Then supposedly, another journalist found the Turkish Daily News issue in question, and there was no such quote. This journalist then supposedly contacted Kissinger, who replied with the following (there's a photo of this letter at Sarantakos' site):

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Dear Mr Marinos

Thank you for your letter. As to the quote, there was no award ceremony, there was no speech and the alleged quote is entirely untrue. The whole thing is pure invention, and I expect you to correct it.

Since you are the first to tell me where the quote came from, I have only today had the opportunity to correct it in the Turkish Daily News and I have done so.

Sincerely yours,
Henry A. Kissinger
 
So, I doubt the Kissinger quote is real, but who knows really. If the proof exists, it's nowhere to be found.

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Re: What Henry Kissinger said about Greece in 1974
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2010, 09:05:44 pm »
Does anybody know the context of this in 1974?  Why did Henry have such a hard-on for Greece back then or today?  Find it all a little bizarre, though credible.

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Re: What Henry Kissinger said about Greece in 1974
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2010, 10:05:00 pm »
Does anybody know the context of this in 1974?  Why did Henry have such a hard-on for Greece back then or today?  Find it all a little bizarre, though credible.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Blum/Greece_KH.html

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Re: What Henry Kissinger said about Greece in 1974
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2010, 10:29:21 pm »
Wow, good article.  Now I defintely understand the history of relations between the U.S./CIA and Greece in the years leading up to this statement.  So, maybe, Kissinger was still kind of carrying out this cold war vendetta in a way, or more likely using it for his own ends.  Certainly helps clarify things.

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Re: What Henry Kissinger said about Greece in 1974
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2010, 08:11:13 am »
Of cause he said it and of cause he’s gonna deny he said it!

These things are often said in private meetings no meant for the public ear

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Re: What Henry Kissinger said about Greece in 1974
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2010, 08:34:13 am »
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Blum/Greece_KH.html

Greece 1964-1974
"f**k your Parliament and your Constitution,"
said the President of the United States[/color]
excerpted from the book
Killing Hope
by William Blum

"It's the best damn Government since Pericles," the American two-star General declared. (The news report did not mention whether he was chewing on a big fat cigar.)

The government, about which the good General was so ebullient, was that of the Colonels' junta which came to power in a military coup in April 1967, followed immediately by the traditional martial law, censorship, arrests, beatings, torture, and killings, the victims totaling some 8,000 in the first month. This was accompanied by the equally traditional declaration that this was all being done to save the nation from a "communist takeover". Corrupting and subversive influences in Greek life were to be removed. Among these were miniskirts, long hair, and foreign newspapers; church attendance for the young would be compulsory.

So brutal and so swift was the repression, that by September, Denmark, Norway, Sweden and the Netherlands were before the European Commission of Human Rights to accuse Greece of violating most of the Commission's conventions. Before the year was over Amnesty International had sent representatives to Greece to investigate the situation. From this came a report which asserted that "Torture as a deliberate practice is carried out by both Security Police and the Military Police."

The coup had taken place two days before the campaign for national elections was to begin, elections which appeared certain to bring the veteran liberal leader George Papandreou back as prime minister. Papandreou had been elected in February 1964 with the only outright majority in the history of modern Greek elections. The successful machinations to unseat him had begun immediately, a joint effort of the Royal Court, the Greek Military, and the American military and CIA stationed in Greece.

Philip Deane (the pen name of Gerassimos Gigantes) is a Greek, a former UN official, who worked during this period both for King Constantine and as an envoy to Washington for the Papandreou government. He has written an intimate account of the subtleties and the grossness of this conspiracy to undermine the government and enhance the position of the military plotters, and of the raw power exercised by the CIA in his country. ... Greece was looked upon much as a piece of property to be developed according to Washington's needs. A story related by Deane illustrates how this attitude was little changed, and thus the precariousness of Papandreou's position: During one of the perennial disputes between Greece and Turkey over Cyprus, which was now spilling over onto NATO, President Johnson summoned the Greek ambassador to tell him of Washington's "solution". The ambassador protested that it would be unacceptable to the Greek parliament and contrary to the Greek constitution. "Then listen to me, Mr. Ambassador," said the President of the United States, "f**k your Parliament and your Constitution. America is an elephant. Cyprus is a flea. If these two fleas continue itching the elephant, they may just get whacked by the elephant's trunk, whacked good.... We pay a lot of good American dollars to the Greeks, Mr. Ambassador. If your Prime Minister gives me talk about Democracy, Parliament and Constitutions, he, his Parliament and his Constitution may not last very long."

In July 1965, George Papandreou was finally maneuvered out of office by royal prerogative. The king had a coalition of breakaway Center Union Deputies (Papandreou's party) and rightists waiting in the wings to form a new government. It was later revealed by a State Department official that the CIA Chief-of-Station in Athens, John Maury, had "worked in behalf of the palace in 1965. He helped King Constantine buy Center Union Deputies so that the George Papandreou Government was toppled. For nearly two years thereafter, various short-lived cabinets ruled until it was no longer possible to avoid holding the elections prescribed by the constitution.

What concerned the opponents of George Papandreou most about him was his son Andreas Papandreou, who had been head of the economics department at the University of California at Berkeley and a minister in his father's cabinet, was destined for a leading role m the new government. But he was by no means the wide-eyed radical. In the United States Andreas had been an active supporter of such quintessential moderate liberals as Adlai Stevenson and Hubert Humphrey. His economic views, wrote Washington Post columnist Marquis Childs, were "those of the American New Deal".

But Andreas Papandreou did not disguise his wish to take Greece out of the cold war. He publicly questioned the wisdom of the country remaining in NATO, or at least remaining in It as a satellite of the United States. He leaned toward opening relations with the Soviet Union and other Communist countries on Greece's border. He argued that the swollen American military and intelligence teams in Greece compromised the nation's freedom of action. And he viewed the Greek Army as a threat to democracy, wishing to purge it if its most dictatorial- and royalist-minded senior officers.

Andreas Papandreou's bark was worse than his bite, as his later presidency was to amply demonstrate. (He did not, for example, pull Greece out of NATO or US bases out of Greece.) But in Lyndon Johnson's Washington, if you were not totally and unquestionably with us, you were agin' us. Johnson felt that Andreas, who had become a naturalized US citizen, had "betrayed America". Said LBJ:

"We gave the son of a bitch American citizenship, didn't we? He was an American, with all the rights and privileges. And he had sworn allegiance to the flag. And then he gave up his American citizenship. He went back to just being a Greek. You can't trust a man who breaks his oath of allegiance to the flag of these United States.

What, then, are we to make of the fact that Andreas Papandreou was later reported to have worked with the CIA in the early 1960s? (He criticized publication of the report, but did not deny the charge.) If true, it would not have been incompatible with being a liberal, particularly at that time. It was incompatible, as he subsequently learned, only with his commitment to a Greece independent from US foreign policy.

As for the elder Papandreou, his anti-communist credentials were impeccable, dating back to his role as a British-installed prime minister during the civil war against the left in 1944-45. But he, too, showed stirrings of independence from the Western superpower. He refused to buckle under Johnson's pressure to compromise with Turkey over Cyprus. He l accepted an invitation to visit Moscow, and when his government said that it would accept Soviet aid in preparation for a possible war with Turkey, the US Embassy demanded an explanation. Moreover, in an attempt to heal the old wounds of the civil war, Papandreou began to reintroduce certain civil liberties and to readmit into Greece some of those who had fought against the government in the civil war period.

When Andreas Papandreou assumed his ministerial duties in 1964 he was shocked to discover what was becoming a fact of life for every techno-industrial state in the world: an intelligence service gone wild, a shadow government with powers beyond the control of the nation's nominal leaders. This, thought Papandreou, unaccounted for many of the obstacles the government was encountering in trying to carry out its policies.

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A CIA report dated 23 January 1967 had specifically named the Papadopoulos group as one plotting a coup, and was apparently one of the reports discussed at the February meeting.

Of the cabal of five officers which took power in April, four, reportedly, were intimately connected to the American military or to the CIA in Greece. The fifth man had been brought in because of the armored units he commanded. George Papadopoulos emerged as the defacto leader, taking the title prime minister later in the year.

The catchword amongst old hands at the US military mission in Greece was that Papadopoulos was " the first CIA agent to become Premier of a European country".

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It was torture ... which most indelibly marked the seven-year Greek nightmare [under Papadopoulos]. James Becket, an American attorney sent to Greece by Amnesty International, wrote In December 1969 that "a conservative estimate would place at not less than two thousand" the number of people tortured. It was an odious task for Becket to talk to some of the victims:

"People had been mercilessly tortured simply for being in possession of a leaflet criticizing the regime. Brutality and cruelty on one side, frustration and helplessness on the other. They were being tortured and there was nothing to be done. It was like listening to a friend who has cancer. What comfort, what wise reflection can someone who is comfortable give. Torture might last a short time, but the person will never be the same."
Becket reported that some torturers had told prisoners that some of their equipment had come as US military aid: a special "thick white double cable" whip was one Item; another was the headscrew, known as an "iron wreath", which was progressively tightened around the head or ears.

The Amnesty delegation described a number of the other torture methods commonly employed. Among these were:

a) Beating the soles of the feet with a stick or pipe. After four months of this, the soles of one prisoner were covered with thick scar tissue. Another was crippled by broken bones.

b) Serious incidents of sexually-oriented torture: shoving or an object into the vagina and twisting and tearing brutally; also done with a tube inserted into the anus; or a tube is inserted into the anus and water driven in under very high pressure.

c) Techniques of gagging: the throat is grasped in such a way that the windpipe is cut off, or a filthy
rag, often soaked in urine, and sometimes excrement, is shoved down the throat.

d) Tearing out the hair from the head and the pubic region.

e) Jumping on the stomach.

f) Pulling out toe nails and finger nails.
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The United States ... provided the junta with ample military hardware despite an official congressional embargo, as well as the police equipment required by the Greek authorities to maintain their rigid control.

In an attempt to formally end the embargo, the Nixon administration asked Papadopoulos to make some gesture towards constitutional government which the White House could then point to. The Greek prime minister was to be assured, said a secret White House document, that the administration would take "at face value and accept without reservation" any such gesture.

US Vice-president Spiro Agnew, on a visit to the land of his ancestors, was moved to exalt the "achievements" of the Greek government and its "constant co-operation with US needs and wishes". One of the satisfied needs Agnew may have had in mind was the contribution of $549,000 made by the junta to the 1968 Nixon-Agnew election campaign. Apart from any other consideration, it was suspected that this was money given to the junta by the CIA finding its way back to Washington. A Senate investigation of this question was abruptly canceled at the direct request of Henry Kissinger.

Perhaps nothing better captures the mystique of the bond felt by the Greeks to their American guardians than the story related about Chief Inspector Basil Lambrou, one of Athens well-known torturers:

"Hundreds of prisoners have listened to the little speech given by Inspector Basil Lambrou, who sits behind his desk which displays the red, white, and blue clasped-hand symbol of American aid. He tries to show the prisoner the absolute futility of resistance 'You make yourself ridiculous by thinking you can do anything. The world is divided in two. There are the communists on that side and on this side the free world. The Russians and the Americans, no one else. What are we. Americans. Behind me there is the government, behind the government is NATO, behind NATO is the U.S You can't fight us, we are Americans."

Amnesty International adds that some torturers would tell their victims things like "The Human Rights Commission can't help you now ... The Red Cross can do nothing for you. Tell them all, it will do no good, you are helpless." "The torturers from the start," said Amnesty, "had said that the United States supported them and that was what counted."

In November 1973, a falling-out within the Greek inner circle culminated in the ousting of Papadopoulos and his replacement by Col. Demetrios loannidis, Commander of the Military Police, torturer, graduate of American training in anti-subversive techniques, confidant of the CIA. loannidis named as prime minister a Greek-American, A. Androutsopoulos, who came to Greece after the Second World War as an official employee of the CIA, a fact of which Mr. Androutsopoulos had often boasted.

Eight months later, the loannidis regime overthrew the government of Cyprus. It was a fatal miscalculation. Turkey invaded Cyprus and the reverberations in Athens resulted in the military giving way to a civilian government. The Greek nightmare had come to an end.

Much of the story of American complicity in the 1967 coup and its aftermath may never be known. At the trials held in 1975 of junta members and torturers, many witnesses made reference to the American role. This may have been the reason a separate investigation of this aspect was scheduled to be undertaken by the Greek Court of Appeals. But it appears that no information resulting from this inquiry, if it actually took place, was ever announced. Philip Deane, upon returning to Greece several months after the civilian government took over, was told by leading politicians that "for the sake of preserving good relations with the US, the evidence of US complicity will not be made fully public".

Andreas Papandreou had been arrested at the time of the coup and held in prison for eight months. Shortly after his release, he and his wife Margaret visited the American ambassador, Phillips Talbot, in Athens. Papandreou related the following:

"I asked Talbot whether America could have intervened the night of the coup, to prevent the death of democracy in Greece. He denied that they could have done anything about lt. Then Margaret asked a critical question What if the coup had been a Communist or a Leftist coup? Talbot answered without hesitation. Then, of course, they would have intervened, and they would have crushed the coup."
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Re: What Henry Kissinger said about Greece in 1974
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2010, 09:20:02 am »
H.K., makes my skin crawl.
This quote is mild in comparrison to what this geek has to say within the circle of power.
This bag of shiite heads up assassinations, is responsible for genocide, disintergrates foriegn goverments,!
Seems to me once they eliminated the 3K's (their crowning glory) these  power mongering  perverted pyscos jumped into their plan without pause.  LBJ and Nixon!!.......fed from the blood of Americas sons and genocide of the foreigners in millions.

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Re: What Henry Kissinger said about Greece in 1974
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2010, 09:24:34 am »
CIA Document confirms Kissinger’s involvement in selling Cyprus for 30 silver pieces June 28, 2007
http://grhomeboy.wordpress.com/2007/06/28/cia-document-confirms-kissingers-involvement-in-selling-cyprus-for-30-silver-pieces/
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Most noteworthy is the involvement of Henry Kissinger in giving the green light to Turkey’s invasion of Cyprus.

The recent release by the CIA of documents concerning the agency’s illegal surveillance of Americans and involvement in the assassinations of Ngo Dinh Diem of South Vietnam, Rafael Trujillo of the Dominican Republic, Salvador Allende of Chile, and Patrice Lumumba of Congo, as well as assassinations plots against Fidel Castro, prove what authors and scholars have already concluded about the agency. Most noteworthy is the involvement of Henry Kissinger in giving the green light to Turkey’s invasion of Cyprus.

The links between Kissinger and Turkey formed a long lasting relationship between Kissinger and the Israeli Lobby in the United States, particularly the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) and the Turks, particularly the links between AIPAC and the American Turkish Council and individuals like Richard Perle, Marc Grossman, and Douglas Feith. That relationship was exposed with revelations stemming from information divulged as a result of the FBI’s firing of Turkish translator Sibel Edmonds and the concentration of the Brewster Jennings & Associates CIA front company on weapons of mass destruction and the Turkish nexus to nuclear materials trafficking from the former Soviet Central Asian states.

When Turkey invaded Cyprus in July 1974, Kissinger was only concerned about the continued operation of U.S. intelligence bases in Turkey and three in the presently under Turkish military control and occupied north zone of Cyprus: Yerolakkos, Mia Milia, and Karavas. Eventually, these listening stations were evacuated in 1975 by CIA agents and U.S. Marines.

Although Barbara Bush blamed CIA whistleblower Phil Agee for divulging the identity of Athens CIA station chief Richard Welch and blamed him for Welch’s assassination by left-wing terrorists in 1975, the confirmation of Kissinger’s support for the invasion of Cyprus is what triggered a wave of anti-American terrorist activity in Greece in the mid-1970s and well into the 1980s. It is Kissinger who is ultimately to blame for anti-American violence in Greece, both for his support of the Greek junta and his support for the Turkish invasion of Cyprus.

We can also now add Cypriot President Archbishop Makarios to the long list of foreign leaders targeted for assassination by the CIA and Kissinger. From the book “The Cyprus Conspiracy” by Brendan O’Malley and Ian Craig, we know that on July 15, 1974, Makarios’ Presidential Palace in Nicosia was hit with artilley fire from tanks while Makarios was greeting a group of young schoolchildren from Cairo. Makarios’ Presidential Guard fought the coup plotters off for several hours until the rebellious troops stormed the building and set fire to it. The CIA saw to it that Cyprus Radio broadcast the news that Makarios was dead.

It was a replay of Santiago, Chile and the anti-Allende coup the year before. Both events had Kissinger’s sordid fingerprints on them. Although Kissinger denied it, he has denied almost everything that shows him to be an arch war criminal, it was widely known that he believed Makarios to be the “Castro of the Mediterranean.”

Eventually, the right-wing junta that replaced Makarios collapsed along with the Greek military junta in Athens. Makarios, who continued to enjoy international recognition as President of Cyprus while in exile in London, returned to Cyprus to resume his Presidency. Makarios died suddenly from a heart attack in 1977, just shy of his 64th birthday.

On March 8, 1970, Makarios’ helicopter was was hit with bullets in an assassination attempt also linked to the CIA and the Greek Colonels junta in Athens. Kissinger, at the time, served as Nixon’s National Security Adviser.

And in a precursor to the neo-con purge that would drive out many experienced military, intelligence, and foreign service officers who opposed the Iraq war, Kissinger ensured that those within the State Department who opposed Turkey’s invasion of Cyprus were removed. They included the U.S. ambassador to Greece Henry Tasca, Cyprus Desk chief Tom Boyatt, and Greek desk chief George Churchill.

The newly-released CIA documents also show that Kissinger was furious at CIA director William Colby for divulging past CIA dirty tricks in the wake of Watergate. Kissinger said he was afraid that he could be blackmailed by the revelations about CIA misdeeds, much of which have come to light as a result of the recent CIA disclosures. Gerald Ford fired Colby and replaced him with George H. W. Bush.

Colby died in a suspicious boating accident in the Cheaspeake Bay in 1996. The CIA documents also reveal that former CIA director Richard Helms warned Kissinger that Colby’s disclosures were the “tip of the iceberg” and that much more damaging information might follow. Richard Nixon is quoted in the Watergate tapes referring to Watergate CIA burglars E. Howard Hunt and James McCord’s demand for money for his silence as threatening to blow open the “Cuba thing.”

It is interesting to compare what Nixon said to Helms’ statement: Nixon to Haldeman on June 23, 1972: “Of course, this is a, this is a Hunt, you will-that will uncover a lot of things. You open that scab there’s a hell of a lot of things and that we just feel that it would be very detrimental to have this thing go any further. This involves these Cubans, Hunt, and a lot of hanky-panky that we have nothing to do with ourselves.”

Kissinger to President Gerald Ford on Jan. 4, 1975: “Helms said all these stories are just the tip of the iceberg. If they come out, blood will flow.”

Nixon’s and Helms’ comments are now viewed by some historians of CIA operations as referring to the CIA’s most probable despicable act: involvement by some of its assets in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. The released documents cite links between the CIA and right-wing Cuban exiles involved in plotting the assassination of Castro, Mafia chieftain Johnny Roselli, who was linked to Lee Harvey Oswald assassin Jack Ruby as well as to Mafia dons Salvatore “Sam” Giancana and Sabtos Trafficante, and Howard Hughes’ top assistant Robert Maheu, a former FBI agent, who acted as a liaison between Langley and the mob.

The recently-released and heavily-redacted CIA documents, called the “Family Jewels,” provide a great deal of confirmation of events already widely known to the public but they pale in comparison to the shocking revelations by Colby to the 1970s Frank Church and Otis Pike Committees and the Vice President Nelson Rockefeller Commission, all of which investigated abuses by the U.S. intelligence community.
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Re: What Henry Kissinger said about Greece in 1974
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2010, 09:25:27 am »
American Duplicity IV
http://www.greece.org/cyprus/Takism8.htm
 

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Below are 3 documents about the NATO and US involvment in the Cyprus tragedy in 1974. These documents have been declasified and publised. They show that the US and NATO planned the assassination of President Makarios betweem May and June 1974 and when the plan they facilitated the illegal Turkish invasion of Cyprus.

Sources:
Athanasios Strigas

Titles of Books:
1) Kypros: Aporritos Fakelos
2) Diethneis Synomotes.

Athanasios Strigas is a former NATO advisor and he was the special advisor of the former NATO comander Gen Alexander Haig also former US Secretary of State.

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Subject: Assistant Undersecretary of State Sisco's visit,


The Assistant Undersecretary of state Sisco's visit to the Alliance, showed the decision of the American goverment to finish the Cyprus problem.
We agreed with Mr Sisco for supporting the Turkish army during the landing, as well as, in the violent expulsion of Makarios.

Joseph Luns
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The CIA's Secret Files on Greece

To Vima (Athens) August 12, 2001

by Alexis Papakhelas

[Greek Text Translated by FBIS] These days, in the storerooms of the US Government Printing Office, in a poor district of Washington, you will find stacks of copies of a book with a wine-colored cover and the title: "Foreign Relations of the United States. Eastern Mediterranean 1964-1968". Under normal circumstances, you would already have been able to purchase it since February 2000, paying something under 50 dollars. What is preventing you? The CIA and the ban it has imposed on its publication.

However, let us take things from the beginning. For many years now, the State Department has established the periodic publication of books with the title "Foreign Relations of the United States". A team of historians undertakes to examine all the US records for a period. The US legislation provides for all files (from the CIA, the State Department, the Pentagon and the White House) to be made public after the passage of 30 years, unless there are serious reasons of national security for keeping them secret. The authorized historians are put to a truth test by the US secret service in order to ensure their discretion. And that is because they get to see even the most classified of documents, such as the transcribed texts of tapped conversations, or the lists of CIA secret agents on the payroll in different countries. The historians select the records which they consider the most significant for studying a period and then... their troubles start. The CIA systematically refuses to declassify top secret documents, with the argument that they may reveal "sources or intelligence gathering techniques", endangering its current activities. Most of the time, Langley imposes its opinions at the cross-service conferences which take place, while on other occasions, it unbearably delays the organization of the files in order to make the historians' lives difficult.

In the case of Greece, it is believed that the volume issued regarding the 1950's does not contain certain top secret information concerning the activities of the CIA station regarding the appointment of Konstandinos Karamanlis [senior] as Prime Minister in September 1955. The US service only permitted the publication of one crucial document, from which it seems that the station chief at the time, Al Almer had specific discussions with the subsequent Prime Minister regarding what he intended to do concerning the Cyprus problem. Also missing from the 1950's is information concerning the decisions of the famous 303 Committee regarding the funding of the EPE [National Radical Union, the rightwing party Karamanlis founded in 1956, which lasted until the junta seized power in 1967] and also of certain centrist parties in the context of the anti-Communist fight of the time. This information exists in the US service's files, but has not been declassified. However, the CIA's historical section has committed a gaffe, when it issued an official history of the service under Eisenhower's presidency, in which there is a list of its successes, with a reference to Karamanlis' rise to power.

On occasions, the CIA is obliged to publish data because of the legislation protecting the Freedom of Information. The author of this article had an experience related to this when he sued the US services for the publication of information concerning the period 1963-1967, which led to the declassification of CIA documents which showed its relations to [Greek military dictator] Yeoryios Papadhopoulos [1967-1973] and the detailed briefing regarding his team before the coup d'etat on 21 April [1967]. The procedure somewhat resembled drawing teeth by hand...

Despite the fact that most documents from the troubled period of 1964 to 1968 have already been declassified, CIA officers, certain diplomats and members of Congress are blocking the publication of the related volume on Greece, Cyprus and Turkey. The volume was printed and has been ready for circulation since February 2000. The competent cross-service committee discusses roughly every quarter on its fate and an excuse is always found for it to remain locked in the Government Printing Office storerooms. In 2000, CIA officers were deliberately delaying its publication, hoping (justifiably) that a Republican government would side with them against the documents being made public.

However, there are also officials in the State Department who are opposed to the volume being issued. In one case, the US Embassy in Nicosia claimed that its publication prior to the Cypriot elections would cause problems.

The US Embassy in Athens was divided. The departed Ambassador Nicholas Burns had sent a written recommendation that the volume be declassified, despite the pressure he was under from his colleagues and, primarily, from the CIA station chief in Greece, who claimed that publishing new information regarding the period 1964-1968 would give a pretext to the terrorist organization 17 November [17N] to justify one of its attacks. A few months ago, a delegation from Congress visited Athens. Burns had arranged to meet with them, however he missed his flight from one of the Aegean islands. The sole senior officer in town was the CIA chief, who undertook to brief the congressmen and to accompany them on their evening out. Among other points, he explained to them that "there is grave danger" through publishing confidential historical documents. The US politicians took his warnings at face value and sent a letter to the State Department asking that the release of the controversial volume be frozen.

The Controversial Documents: They "Point a Finger" at Tom Pappas

Reliable sources estimate that there are two or three documents which have not been made public and which have caused the fight between the US services.

One of these is the recommendation from the US Athens Embassy general staff in September 1965 regarding the funding of an operation for buying up deputies in the Centrist Union for them to support the third government of apostates [referred to in popular leftwing parlance as the "apostaCIA"] under Stefanos Stefanopoulos. The recommendation of the then charge d'affaires Norb Anschutz evidences in the clearest of manners the role of the CIA backstage. The volume also contains the response from the White House 303 Committee, which rejected Anschutz' request, with the argument that "the Greek-Americans who are pressuring you for the operation to be implemented, certainly have the amount you refer to (more than 400,000 dollars) in order to finance it themselves". According to all indications, this reference points a finger at the well-known businessman Tom Pappas [Treasurer of the Republican Party, with major investments in Greece], who also played a decisive role in developments at the time.

No-one can foresee with certainty if and when the volume containing all this information will be released. Some people believed that it would be released in August during... the mass vacations, so that there would not be too much fuss, others think that it should circulate before [Ambassador designate] Tom Miller arrives in Athens. In any event, everyone who has read it believes that there is much ado about nothing, because most of the information for the period 1964-1968 has already been made public and the additional documents are not such as would provoke a fresh attack from 17N. Besides, a veteran US diplomat claimed that "even if we had nothing to hide, the CIA's behavior reinforces the suspicion and the certainty that we are trying to keep some sinful skeletons from the past buried."

The Story Continued

Taksim Part 1: The 1950's - Terror campaign launched against Greeks

Taksim Part 2: The early 60's - Turkey provokes clashes and attempts to invade

Taksim Part 3: The late 60's - Turkey seizes strategic positions

Taksim Part 4: The Turkish invasion of 1974

American Duplicity Part 1: How America created the Greek junta

American Duplicity Part 2: Cyprus sacrificed for American spy bases

American Duplicity Part 3: A nation betrayed

American Duplicity Part 4: The CIA files

American Duplicity Part 5: Kissinger illegally abetted Turkish invasion

American Duplicity Part 6: US connived to facilitate Turkey

British Treason Part 1: How Britain masterminded Cyprus partition

British Treason Part 2: How Britain sabotaged a bi-communal agreement

British Treason Part 3: Turkish terrorists were armed by Britain

British Treason Part 4: The MI6 files
All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately

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Re: What Henry Kissinger said about Greece in 1974
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2010, 09:26:36 am »
Henry Kissinger
http://www.greekrealm.com/forum/greek-politics/1162-henry-kissinger-anti-greek.html


As reported in the popular Greek magazine, Oikonomikos Tachydromos on 14 Aug. l997, Henry Kissinger, while addressing a group of Washington, D.C. businessmen in Sept.1974, said:

The Greek people are anarchic and difficult to tame. For this reason we must strike deep into their cultural roots: Perhaps then we can force them to conform. I mean, of course, to strike at their language, their religion, their cultural and historical reserves, so that we can neutralize their ability to develop, to distinguish themselves, or to prevail; thereby removing them as an obstacle to our strategically vital plans in the Balkans, the Mediterranean, and the Middle East.

Editor's note

There have been those who've questioned the veracity of the statement by Kissinger quoted above. To such people, our argument has been "whether he said it or not is irrelevant. What matters is that everything in this statement is actually happening in the real world." This is precisely the argument we use to those who question the legitimacy of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Anyone reading this book -- if he wishes to be fair -- has to admit that the strategies laid out in the Protocols are being implemented worldwide almost exactly to the letter.

But for those to whom these arguments do not persuade we offer the following: Father Yiorgos Mettalinos was one of the guests on And&oacute;ni Zisim&aacute;tos' TV program Me Apopsi (Μέ ΄Αποψι) which aired on the 30th of June '03. Father Mettalinos is one of the most widely respected individuals in Greece, right up there with Archbishop Christodoulos. He also happens to be a professor of Ecclesiastical History at Athens University (he holds five university degrees, including two doctorates). A man beloved and admired by even those who may disagree with him, his words are not ever taken lightly nor are they uttered frivolously. When Father Mettalinos speaks, most Greeks pay attention. And you can be sure that one of our staff members was paying enough attention to turn on the video recorder when Father Yiorgos mentioned Kissinger during the discussion. Here he is in his own words:

I was studying in Germany when Kissinger made this speech. It
was in 1974, and I was listening to the late Pavlo Bakoyianni's Greek
program out of Munich. The speech was in the English language with
a Greek overvoice translation. I know English and can tell you with
absolute certainty that he made those comments because I heard him
make them.

At the Bilderberger Conference held in Evians, France, in 1991, Henry Kissinger shows us what he thinks of the average American when he uttered these cynical and arrogant words:

Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened their very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government.

Kissinger: The "American Metternich"

In his latest book titled The Trial Of Henry Kissinger, author Christopher Hitchins writes that Henry Kissinger, the former U.S. Secretary of State, should be tried for crimes against humanity for his role in the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians. He cites many examples where the "American Metternich" was the instigator of plots against governments and politicians deemed inimical to American interests, and how the overthrow or "removal" of these people brought about the instability and chaos that was the cause of much bloodshed.

As an example, he relates how Kissinger was served a subpoena in a hotel in Paris, France, where he'd gone to attend a convention being held there by the crypto-Marxist, collectivist organization, UNESCO. The subpoena was intended to secure Kissinger's presence at an inquiry into the deaths of five Frenchmen during the Pinochet overthrow of the Chilean "socialist" dictatorship of Salvadore Allende. Kissinger promptly skipped town, and is prone nowadays to only traveling within the jurisdiction of the United States.

Hitchins relates numerous incidents where Kissinger was directly involved in causing mayhem and butchery, such as the "coincidental timing" of the overthrow of the Bangladeshi president, M. Rachman, in 1975, and the murder of 40 of his family members, which occurred just a few days after a visit to Dacca by Kissinger. Or the "coincidental timing" of Kissinger's visit to Indonesia with the bloody invasion of East Timor by the Indonesian army just hours after the German-Jewish-American "statesman" had left Jakarta.

Hitchins also develops the argument that the slippery elitist insider was responsible for the invasion of the island nation of Cyprus in 1974, which resulted in thousands of deaths and the illegal capture and detention of five American citizens who rotted away and died in an unknown prison somewhere in Turkey. Included in this five was a seventeen-year-old Greek-American boy who had been visiting relatives on the island and was never heard from again. No headlines, however, about these five Americans whose deaths are the direct result of Kissinger's slimy Levantine "diplomacy," and Turkish barbarity. This unholy silence by the controlled media stands in shameful contrast to the non-stop publicity Americans are bombarded with when their citizens are captured and either killed or ultimately released by nations deemed "evil" by the U.S. But then again, Turkey is "our devil" and an "ally" to Israel. And so five Americans rot and die in Turkish prisons with nary a peep in that bastion of "human rights" which claims to be "a nation of laws, not men."

Hitchins decries the fact that powerful men like Kissinger seem to get away with murder (literally) in today's world. He quotes the ancient philosopher Anacharsis [6th century. B.C.]" ... who maintained that laws were like cobwebs; strong enough to detain only the weak, and too weak to hold the strong." He is understandably upset over the fact that this man has not yet been brought to justice, but it would be oh so wonderful if he and others in his line of work would also show the same indignation in the cases of Fidel Castro, Michail Gorbachev, Nelson Mandela, et al, who have perpetrated equally horrendous enormities but have the good fortune of being on the right (that is "left") side of the political spectrum. This is why we see only such nationalistic icons as Pinochet of Chile, and Milosovic of Serbia being brought to book.

Kissinger, considered a right-winger by the leftist dominated world of the media and publishing, is a natural candidate for the strangely selective puffed-up indignation we see today. So be it, and in Kissinger's case, it is a welcomed development. The fact remains, however, that as long as mankind continues to be dominated by the delusions of theocratic tyrants, or the equally destructive ideological "-isms" of Zionism, Socialism, Capitalism, Fascism, Communism, and, most deleterious of all modern-day "-isms," Consumerism (the driving force behind expansionist imperialism), there will be no justice possible. Witness the farce taking place today [2002] at the Hague where Slobodan Milosovic is facing judges so obviously controlled by the globalist elites that it is actually painful for anyone with the slightest inkling of what really went on during the so-called Serbian "War" to watch.

The only salvation possible is by initiating what the Greek writer, P. L. Kouvalakis calls "a cultural attack" ("ep&iacute;thesi politism&oacute;u") against this all-pervasive "galloping gallootism" on a world-wide scale. An "attack" that will bring about a second Renaissance; a rebirth of that uniquely Hellenic gift to humanity: the unbiased and undogmatic search for the truth; something that can only be accomplished in an environment of free and unencumbered inquiry.

Until that day comes along, we can only be grateful for people like Christopher Hitchins who seek out the truth even if they are strangely selective about where they choose to look for it.
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Re: What Henry Kissinger said about Greece in 1974
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2010, 11:57:07 am »
That comment could pertain to us, too!

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Re: What Henry Kissinger said about Greece in 1974
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2011, 09:01:45 am »
Does anybody know the context of this in 1974?  Why did Henry have such a hard-on for Greece back then or today?  Find it all a little bizarre, though credible.

As you all know in 1453 and after the betrayal of western Europeans Ottoman Empire took over Constantinople ( http://tinyurl.com/flwhh ) and that was the beginning of the end of the Eastern Roman Empire known as Byzantine Empire followed by 400 years of Turkish slavery thats means like 5-6 generations. People were born illiterate as there weren't any schools, customs and traditions had faded and generally the people's history, something that ties and unites people with each other was unknown to most. At some point the priests secretly started to teach children their language and history, that gave birth to the sense of patriotism thus creating the necessary social and national cohesion which was vital for the revolution of 1821 ( http://tinyurl.com/5moo4p ) and generally for all revolutions (that is exactly what globalization dissolves ). The jews didn't want Greeks to be liberated so they supplied the turks with weaponry to protect their investment (Greek slavery) but you see Greeks went against all the odds and beat the odds only to end up again a new form of slavery... that which jews couldn't manage directly managed it indirectly by being the only ones to lend money with an unbelievable interest to the newly formed Greek state. (I am passing over Greece's involvement to WWI) Then in 1940 Italy declared war in Greece ( http://tinyurl.com/33m4fwg ), the war lasted 6 months until Germans (which were funded by jews) decided to join in and at the end of world war II ( http://pastebin.com/jejsgRAM )  to make the long story short kingship came to Greece which was over thrown by Colonels dictatorship in 1967 ( http://tinyurl.com/239ymrw ) that lasted for 7 years. After that political changeover the American interests wanted a man inside the Greek parliament to form a party that was going to govern and thus fulfill those interests. This document was leaked: http://tinyurl.com/2uawfeo
After many years of Andreas government another party was elected at which signed an agreement with the Russian government for Burgas–Alexandroupoli oil pipeline ( http://tinyurl.com/34o85ro ) to go right through the Aegean sea. That was not part of the plans of the American government (you ll understand why in a while) and 9 months later a police officer killed a boy (which was not the first one to die that way) in Athens ( http://tinyurl.com/38ufp68 ) and that was the cause of the Greek riots. At that time some non - governmental politicians made statements such as: "we are experiencing scenarios of destabilization of the Greek government". Time passes and as the traitor politicians stole money from the public fundings, destroying the Greek economy once and for all, Andrea's son gets elected in the national elections and now due to their dept, Greeks have lost part of their independence he is ready to change the national water borders so Greece and Turkey can be benefited by the Oil deposits in the Aegean sea who so conveniently Greece's economy needs in order to recover. Information leaking say that the deal is 60% for the American multinational Oil Companies and 20% for each country. So to sum up Greece is a guinea pig of the New World Order because greeks have exercised the greatest resistance in the past and the Americans wanted the oil deposits in the Aegean See for a long time but the greeks were not ready to accept changes in their borders so they applied kissinger's dogma but the Russian interests in the Aegean messes things up. The fact that the time is close for the oil deposits to be exploited verifies kissinger's sayings.

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Re: What Henry Kissinger said about Greece in 1974
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2011, 09:09:51 am »



  Kissinger---100% RAT BASTARD