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« on: April 11, 2010, 02:10:33 PM »

How many of you can tell me when this globalist take over really began... when the globalist infrastructure was set up... Be advised that the federal reserve act and the 16th Amendment were the mid-game in this game of chess. If you know, how did you find it out, was it from an old book?... or some old teacher you had who had old books Can you find that old teacher, or that book now?

The Endgame is happening now, get focused. the Mao-ist style cultural revolution of truth revision and knowledge extermination is happening here NOW. Look around, revisionism in the schools, historical alterations taking place on tv... the "Nickelodeon and History channel are good examples. This televised "Memory Hole" is one thing Orwell didn't think of.

We can celebrate our diverse interests and be individuals in a free America, ONLY if we remain vigilant and rally around the Constitution... we had better do it soon we haven't much time, MIND SLAVERY is upon us.

My latest article that is softened a bit for local consumption... it will appear Wednesday or Thursday, (tax day) locally. It is titled "What do your IRS taxes really pay for?" It is up on infowars.com now if you want a preview.

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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2010, 02:16:47 PM »

How many of you can tell me when this globalist take over really began... when the globalist infrastructure was set up...

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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2010, 02:24:02 PM »


HERE IN AMERICA!

Addendum to my last post... a major question... How many of you can read further than the first line?

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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2010, 03:04:10 PM »

It is a foredrawn conclusion that your taxes go to fund all manner and form of nefarious globalist activity. That has been the whole reason for the corporatist take over of America from the beginning. If you know how it works you can stop it however. The national Debt is an Illusion it is nothing more than a growing number, based on compounding interest on this illusion. If the "money"/paper that the treasury printed was spent directly into the economy constitutionally without interest as Lincoln did it in 1862, instead of being sold to the bank for distribution at interest, there could never be a national debt.

The way this debt and tax scheme works is simple -- the treasury sells the notes to the bank at the cost of printing, the FED then spends the money into the economy at interest through its regional banks, or in the case of government appropriations, the FED loans it back to the government at interest which is how the national debt is created. Under this system there can NEVER be enough money brought into the economy to pay the interest!

The end game in this type of scheme will always be full foreclosure, the bank will own everything, because the huge amount of interest owed at the end term, will be equal to or greater than the value of everything the country owns, including it's land. We are there NOW!

Lincoln understood this, and created a system of debt free Treasury notes that became known as Greenbacks. Ironically these were still in circulation as a debt free counterbalance to the FEDs interest until 1994 when the FED took control and debt monetized them as well.

When Lincoln made this bold move against the international bankers, instead of borrowing from the European banks to finance the war in America, it really scared the hell out of the crowned heads of Europe, and the international bankers. The following was written in the London Times in 1862 regarding Lincoln’s bold move:


“If this mischievous financial policy, which has its origins in North America,
shall become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish
its own money without cost. It will pay off debts and be without debt. It will
have all the money necessary to carry on its commerce. It will become
prosperous without precedent in the history of the world. The brains, and
wealth of all countries will go to North America. That country must be
destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe.”

~The Times of London [1862]


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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2010, 03:52:34 PM »

The way this debt and tax scheme works is simple -- the treasury sells the notes to the bank at the cost of printing, the FED then spends the money into the economy at interest through its regional banks, or in the case of government appropriations, the FED loans it back to the government at interest which is how the national debt is created. Under this system there can NEVER be enough money brought into the economy to pay the interest!

what about US bonds? Those are mixed in there with treasury, fed, notes, and the money creation phase. What's their role in the scheme?
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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2010, 01:56:28 AM »

what about US bonds? Those are mixed in there with treasury, fed, notes, and the money creation phase. What's their role in the scheme?


To make you, or whoever invests in them, think that they are making money... you are not.  The interest on the bonds is less than the present rate of inflation.  The number and type of these bonds are limited and the purchaser qualifications are high to out of sight...

If you are not holding gold and silver in your hands you stand to loose big time... bonds, are paper... it is all predicated on the same scheme and will all fall... or, if we get our heads out of our poopshoots in time, we will pull the plug on the present system and restart where Lincoln left off... this of course will mean the globies will retaliate and bring their most recently created "new industrial powerhouse" in to whip us into line...

We have no, or very little manufacturing capacity here... we will be EASY for the globies to knock off... we are just the American people what do they care about us... ask youself that... They got all of our ideas, our inventions, they own all of our resourses and have moved all creation  and use of them off shore... what do you think is a comin' next??

So have you gladly sent off your tribute to the International Banking Cartel yet?

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these United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers..."

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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2010, 11:30:42 AM »

Great info, JT!

The following was written in the London Times in 1862 regarding Lincoln’s bold move:

“If this mischievous financial policy, which has its origins in North America,
shall become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish
its own money without cost. It will pay off debts and be without debt. It will
have all the money necessary to carry on its commerce. It will become
prosperous without precedent in the history of the world. The brains, and
wealth of all countries will go to North America. That country must be
destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe.”
~The Times of London [1862]



I was not aware of that particular piece of information.

I have read different historians works that said, John Wilkes Booth was a British agent.

The whole push for rabid anti-slavery on one side, and the protectionist-secessionist movement on the other side, during the Great American "civil" War, were all created by agents of the crown on both sides over decades, pushing the American people into a bloody civil war... Jeff Davis saw it... Abe Lincoln saw it... yet they were powerless to stop the emotional tide once the crown's bankers had control through the media... all hell broke loose.

Booth's orders were coming through Canada... It was the crown's Bank of England... It was the beginning of the World Corporatist move and was signaled in the London Times article I quoted... this push gained it's corporate legal foothold in America in February of 1871.

I'm writing an Article now that explains this movement and ties this event through, the 14th, 15th, 16th, 17th Amendments, J.D. Rockefeller, the Federal reserve, Binito Mussolini, FDR, all the way to Barry (Barack) Soetoro and the monopolistic Insurance Corporatist's take over.

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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2010, 01:05:03 AM »

Here is the link to the final edited version of this Article as it is appearing in today's Summit Daily News. 4/14/10

http://www.summitdaily.com/article/20100414/COLUMNS/100419951/1026&parentprofile=1058

If it pleases you, click recommend... Thank you all...

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« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2010, 06:45:18 AM »

Another great article, JT!  Wink
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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2010, 10:42:09 AM »

Another great article, JT!  Wink

Thanks Donnay...

It really looks good in print...  Grin

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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2010, 01:34:19 PM »

The comments to this article are beginning to get to the meat of the FED-IRS deception. This will lead to the roots of the main take over if folks are mindful of a few basic facts.  The most important of which was the seminal legislation that set up the corporate "alliance."

This was when the congress voted themselves the ability to oversee and control the states, under the auspices of an incorporation of the federal complex, namely the DC Organic Act of February 21, 1871. This placed our federal government in partnership with the constitutionally unaccountable globalist corporate system under the control of corporate boards like the federal reserve board that are made up of powerful unelected individuals.

Read the article, check out the comments, and click the recommend button at the top of the article... lets wake up the top of the watershed, and the knowledge will flow to the country like the water that melts from the snowpack that originates there.
http://www.summitdaily.com/article/20100414/COLUMNS/100419951/1026&parentprofile=1058

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« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2010, 02:35:32 PM »

Here is the latest comment in the comment thread to my article at THE SUMMIT DAILY NEWS.

"So JT - put aside the Black Helicopters paranoia for a moment and tell us which sort of central banking system would be preferable. The Bank of the United States model, in which decisions about money supply and interest rates are in the hands of one man? This was Jackson's principle objection to the second Bank. Or perhaps the "wild capitalism" version, which prevailed between 1837 and 1871, in which state banks produced various financial instruments without coordination? Good for Minnesota, not so hot for the teritorries, including Colorado. Or the weak central bank version, between 1871 and 1934, which saw unprecedented boom-and-bust cycles, the latter most tripped off by constrictions in the money supply, which was tied to precious metals? What's the alternative, here? M.
4/18/2010 11:01:52 AM on summitdaily.com"

When you go in to read, click on recommend and/or leave a comment... Thanks

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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2010, 03:23:13 PM »

There are discussions running now on the infowars blog as well as the SDN with regard to what the bottom line is regarding this "NEW" surge by the banking conspiracy to take control.  In both blogs the comments are alluding toward a way of breaking down the mystery surrounding banking and how it works.  The reason that the bankers always gain control over time, is by creating depressions/reccessions using their wealth, and by bribing Representatives of the people... check it out.

http://www.infowars.com/alex-jones-global-bank-conspiracy/  watch the video... and

http://www.summitdaily.com/article/20100414/COLUMNS/100419951/1026&parentprofile=1058 ... read the comments.

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31 Questions and Answers about the Internal Revenue Service

http://www.supremelaw.org/sls/31answers.htm

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1.      Is the Internal Revenue Service (“IRS”) an organization within the U.S. Department of the Treasury?

Answer:  No.  The IRS is not an organization within the United States Department of the Treasury.  The U.S. Department of the Treasury was organized by statutes now codified in Title 31 of the United States Code, abbreviated “31 U.S.C.”  The only mention of the IRS anywhere in 31 U.S.C. §§ 301‑310 is an authorization for the President to appoint an Assistant General Counsel in the U.S. Department of the Treasury to be the Chief Counsel for the IRS.  See 31 U.S.C. 301(f)(2).

At footnote 23 in the case of Chrysler Corp. v. Brown, 441 U.S. 281 (1979), the U.S. Supreme Court admitted that no organic Act for the IRS could be found, after they searched for such an Act all the way back to the Civil War, which ended in the year 1865 A.D.  The Guarantee Clause in the U.S. Constitution guarantees the Rule of Law to all Americans (we are to be governed by Law and not by arbitrary bureaucrats).  See Article IV, Section 4.  Since there was no organic Act creating it, IRS is not a lawful organization.

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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2010, 05:22:00 PM »

Yes, the IRS is a creation of the Federal Reserve by the aegis of the federal reserve act and created by the federal reserve board to serve as an enforcement arm of the FED. It was attached to the Treasury department under the guise that it was to collect "Lawful" unpaid taxes on liquor, tobacco, etc for the treasury, that were being withheld by manufacturers ... this type of non legislative creation is unconstitutional and therefore unlawful.

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what part of it we will adhere to."
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« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2010, 01:50:54 AM »

Okay Guys here is a piece designed calling me a dangerous whacko on my article.   It has been out about a week now and Mr. Jeff Ryan Esq. is using every tactic in the book...

He and I have already hashed this out last fall stickied in Hot Topics... but he feels he can defend and you believe in the queen's fraud... I invite you to have at him... I will stay out of it until I see him... he is basically calling me a terrorist enabler... sheesh.

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« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2010, 02:43:24 AM »

Yes, the IRS is a creation of the Federal Reserve by the aegis of the federal reserve act and created by the federal reserve board to serve as an enforcement arm of the FED. It was attached to the Treasury department under the guise that it was to collect "Lawful" unpaid taxes on liquor, tobacco, etc for the treasury, that were being withheld by manufacturers ... this type of non legislative creation is unconstitutional and therefore unlawful.

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the third and last will be, to make it the instrument of
dismembering the Union, and setting us all afloat to choose
what part of it we will adhere to."
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The Revenue Act of 1862 lays out the provision for the appointment by the President for a Commissioner of Internal Revenue within the Treasury.  This Executive office created the Bureau of Internal Revenue, which kept that name until 1953 when its name changed to the Internal Revenue Service.

The FED did not create the IRS, nor the BIR.  Congress has always, Art. I Sec. 8, had the power to tax "income" (an excise).  What is done with the money extorted by the current [mis]application of the "income" tax laws is very much a product of the FED, but the Office of the Commissioner of Internal Revenue within the Treasury is not beholden to the FED at all.  If we abolished the FED, and we most definitely should, the Office could and should remain, but with a much needed cleaning-of-house, as it were.

As for where the monies collected via the "income" tax go, that question was answered in a report by the Grace Commission presented to Congress in 1984 in which it is revealed that not one dime of what is collected goes to pay for any government service.  Reading the Federalist Papers and the many SCOTUS opinions on the subject since the founding of our Union, the Honored Court has taken the Hamiltonian position and stated in short "... the power of Congress to authorize expenditure of public moneys for public purposes is not limited by the direct grants of legislative power found in the Constitution".  SCOTUS is basically saying that Congress may spend money collected via its power to tax in whatever way it wants without regard to its enumerated powers.  I find this disturbing, to say the least.

Just a footnote, really, but the mention of the 16th Amendment in the OP only gives credence to the incorrect view by so many that it somehow granted Congress the power to tax "all that comes in", or an individual's pay regardless of where it comes from or what it is for.  Regardless of the intent of its mention, that view is wrong and has been stated so several times over by SCOTUS.  The 16th Amendment conferred no new power of taxation upon Congress.  This means, quite simply, that it neither created, nor enabled the creation of, the "income" tax, as this power has been with Congress since day 1.  However, it is the very meaning of "income" that should be of debate... not the effect, or even insignificance, of the 16th Amendment.  Debate regarding the "income" tax should be void of mention of the Amendment to avoid confusing the debate.
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« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2010, 03:23:58 AM »

You are correct here and as I mentioned in a previous post the IRS/BIR after the civil war was used to collect "lawful taxes" but with the federal reserve act and the creation of a "ponzie" style debt creation/growing mechanism, namely the symbiotic interaction between the Treasury and the private federal reserve, the BIR/IRS, was given a new additional chore by the federal reserve act.

The 16th Amendment as you point out confirs no new taxing power but does introduce a new area of taxation with a vague definition, "income"... it is therefore related, but should be clarified as to how it applies, which you mentioned... It also modifies by 180 degrees, Art. I sec. 9 cl. 4 with regard to the census and enumeration function.  Here it is:

Amendment XVI
"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes,
from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several
states, and without regard to any census or enumeration."


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« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2010, 11:48:04 AM »

You are correct here and as I mentioned in a previous post the IRS/BIR after the civil war was used to collect "lawful taxes" but with the federal reserve act and the creation of a "ponzie" style debt creation/growing mechanism, namely the symbiotic interaction between the Treasury and the private federal reserve, the BIR/IRS, was given a new additional chore by the federal reserve act.

The 16th Amendment as you point out confirs no new taxing power but does introduce a new area of taxation with a vague definition, "income"... it is therefore related, but should be clarified as to how it applies, which you mentioned... It also modifies by 180 degrees, Art. I sec. 9 cl. 4 with regard to the census and enumeration function.  Here it is:

Amendment XVI
"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes,
from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several
states, and without regard to any census or enumeration."


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of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the
name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."

~Thomas Jefferson


Yes, but neither Congress nor the IRS may define, or redefine, "income" for any purpose.  This was already settled by SCOTUS...

"The word (income) must be given the same meaning in all of the income Tax Acts of Congress that was given to it in the Corporation Excise Tax Act of 1909, and what the meaning is has now become definitely settled by decisions of this court."
Merchants Loan & Trust Co. v. Smietanka, 255 US 509, (1921)

This is why I try to always enclose "income" in quotes when discussing taxation.  This is merely to point out, repeatedly, that the word when used in this context has a legal meaning according to SCOTUS for the purposes of taxation.  Its colloquial understanding, which has numerous applications, does not apply.

"Income" is the gain enjoyed by engaging in a privileged activity... the "income" tax is an excise, and SCOTUS has stated that the words "excise" and "privilege" may be used interchangeably with regard to taxation.  The amount of tax is measured by the amount of privilege enjoyed, which is measured by the amount of gain received in whatever form (as we must consider substance alone) and from whatever source (jurisdictional rules still apply).

It is the FEDERAL "income" tax.  This, by its very nature, makes its existence, and thereby its proper object, predicated on the existence of the federal government.  We the People, including our labor, capital worth, and rights, are precedent to the federal government and therefore not the proper object or subject of the tax.  We all may choose to engage in activities which would make us liable, but that choice does not envelope all of our activities from that point on, but rather only the activity in question and its associated gain.

Regardless of the truth regarding the true nature of the taxing power of Congress and indeed the "income" tax as written, it is the current criminal [mis]application that should be getting the People in a tissy.  So many politicians, and those less informed, muddy the debate with alternatives such as the "fair tax" or a flat tax, or even VAT... these are not replacements, but additions (I guarantee it) to the [mis]application of the "income" tax.  Repealing the 16th Amendment would not remove the power to tax "income"... the 16th merely removed the occasion for those receiving "income" to shelter it in property, forcing the rule of apportionment for direct taxation.  The Amendment closed a loophole.  What the People should be asking themselves is "Do I receive 'income'?"  The answer, for most of us, is a resounding "NO".  That is what can and will change things for the better.
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« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2010, 03:01:20 PM »

Yes indeed, and the U.S. Supreme Court rejected any claims that the 16th Amendment changed the constitutional limits on direct taxes in Brushaber v. Union Pacific R.R. Co., 240 U.S. 1, when they ruled that it “created no new power of taxation” and that it “did not change the constitutional limitations which forbid any direct taxation of individuals.”

So there you have it. When you volunteer to pay taxes, which you do when you sign the w-4 form in order to get a job... you have signed a contract with the IRS to pay... and by making your job contengent on signing that form... the business is in a defacto partnership with the IRS to collect taxes.

It's a "no sign, no work", situation... or mandatory volunteerism,

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