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CNN Debate Scorecard "Strategists" EXPOSED!
« on: November 29, 2007, 07:51:08 am »
CNN Debate Scorecard "Strategists" EXPOSED!
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Gloria Borger "Sr. political analyst"
Glenn Greenwald on Gloria Borger: Gloria Borger of U.S. News and World Report is perfectly representative of the establishment media pundit. She possesses in great abundance the most common attribute which defines them -- namely, there is never an original thought that comes out of her mouth. Instead, she never does anything other than recite Beltway conventional wisdom and GOP talking points (typically the same thing) with complete fealty. For that reason, Borger last week made her exciting debut as a panelist on Fox News' Sunday Show. More...
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Jamal Simmons "Democratic strategist"
I AM A CLINTONISTA: "I am not sure why I should feel like I am taking an unpopular stand by stating in a crowd full of progressives that I AM A CLINTONISTA. I love Bill Clinton. I think he was a strong leader for our party, but more importantly our nation. He was the last Democrat to out-right win a national election and take the oath of office. He created jobs, balanced the budget, banned assault rifles, made headway on environmental matters, encouraged school choice to help poor kids have greater opportunity to get a better education, invested in cities, created Americorps, made student loans more affordable, had an ethnically diverse Administration, appointed the first female Attorney General and Secretary of State, got people off of welfare, won a war in Kosovo and negotiated peace deals around the world."
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Bill Bennett "Conservative analyst"
Connections:
Bill Kristol: Bennett's Chief of Staff when Bennett served as Reagan's Education Secretary
George HW Bush: "Drug Czar"
PNAC: member
Heritage Foundation: Bennett is a "Distinguished Fellow"
John Podhoretz: Former special assistant to Bennett [1989]
Rush Limbaugh: Relentless support for Bennett's "The Book of Virtues" made the former Education Secretary and Drug Czar an almost-overnight millionaire.

Chicken Hawk:
Employer: Empower America
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: Bill's occupation used to be "public scold," but since his gambling habit was exposed, he's a little less noisy on that front. Bill's a triple-crown winner as a former bureaucrat, a propagandist, and a barking head. (All barking heads are propagandists, but not all propagandists are barking heads.)  

This population control Nazi is quoted as saying: "[Y]ou could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down"
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QUESTION:   1   Who do you think won the debate?
Sr. political analyst   Gloria Borger   I don't think there was a clear winner tonight [PUNT!]
Democratic strategist   Jamal Simmons   McCain won because he looked like an adult [?]
Conservative analyst   Bill Bennett   Romney. He was strong, in command, and articulate [?]
   CNN VOTERS   Ron Paul (56%)
      
QUESTION:   2   Who seemed to know most about the issues?
Sr. political analyst   Gloria Borger   McCain was especially strong on national security, belittling Romney's experience on the torture issue [?]
Democratic strategist   Jamal Simmons   McCain was head and shoulders above the rest on being adept at the issues [?]
Conservative analyst   Bill Bennett   Depended on the issue [PUNT!]
   CNN VOTERS   Ron Paul (55%)
      
QUESTION:   3   Who had the best response to user-generated content?
Sr. political analyst   Gloria Borger   They were all pretty much the same [PUNT!]
Democratic strategist   Jamal Simmons   Huckabee's answer on the Bible being the literal word of God was great
Conservative analyst   Bill Bennett   That's hard to say. Anderson did well in clarifying the questions [PUNT!]
   CNN VOTERS   Ron Paul (52%)
      
QUESTION:   4   Who had the most disappointing performance at the debate?
Sr. political analyst   Gloria Borger   Paul didn't wow the crowd the way he sometimes does [Direct Attack on Ron Paul by a SHILL!]
Democratic strategist   Jamal Simmons   Thompson was the most surprising; seems like he was lost without his cue cards
Conservative analyst   Bill Bennett   Paul just does not come off convincing or presidential [Direct Attack on Ron Paul by a SHILL!]
   CNN VOTERS   Rudy Giuliani (28%)
      
QUESTION:   5   Whose performance was most surprising?
Sr. political analyst   Gloria Borger   Thompson showed his sense of humor with his video and response to the Cheney cartoon [?]
Democratic strategist   Jamal Simmons   Paul came off very direct and clear. He is the most extreme candidate on stage but seemed quite reasonable.
Conservative analyst   Bill Bennett   I was surprised Giuliani went so strongly after Romney in the opening on immigration [?]
   CNN VOTERS   Ron Paul (40%)
      
QUESTION:   6   Whose campaign got the biggest boost from the debate?
Sr. political analyst   Gloria Borger   Maybe Huckabee, who showed his easy demeanor and sense of humor [?]
Democratic strategist   Jamal Simmons   It seems like Paul and Huckabee stood out the most
Conservative analyst   Bill Bennett   Romney, no doubt [?]
   CNN VOTERS   Ron Paul (51%)
      
QUESTION:   7   Who had the most creative campaign video?
Sr. political analyst   Gloria Borger   Thompson [?]
Democratic strategist   Jamal Simmons   Thompson. I don't know if it was creative but it certainly was the most provocative [?]
Conservative analyst   Bill Bennett   I guess I'd give that to Giuliani; kind of funny, but I'm not a great judge of these things [?/PUNT!]
   CNN VOTERS   Ron Paul (48%)
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You know they are actually paying these "strategists" money to PUNT on questions, give a WTF response, or directly attack the OBVIOUS WINNER!
[Reference Page: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/debates/scorecard/youtube.debate.112807/ ]
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Re: CNN Debate Scorecard "Strategists" EXPOSED!
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2007, 08:30:53 am »
All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately

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Re: CNN Debate Scorecard "Strategists" EXPOSED!
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2007, 08:49:13 am »
Huckabee's Record: Freed a Rapist Who Became a Killer, Destroyed Gov't Hard Drives, Raised Taxes, Misappropriated Funds-Extremist Religious Views Appeal to Christian Nationalists But Will Repel Normal Voters in the General-Dems Should Pray He's on the Ticket
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Recent polls show that Mike Huckabee, the former governor of Arkansas and Baptist preacher, is rising in popularity in Iowa, where he is cutting into Mitt Romney's lead. (Romney has 28 percent, Huckabee has 24 percent in the ABC news survey; Romney is at 27 percent and Huckabee's at 18 percent in the local KCCI-TV poll.) He's also moving up in in Florida, where he's running second to Rudolph Giuliani, 26 percent to 17 percent --- leaving good ol' boy actor Fred Thompson in fifth place with 9 percent. With Thompson's campaign fading, Huckabee becomes the last best hope for the GOP's Christian nationalist base. Unlike Thompson, Huckabee is authentically one of them. He believes in the inerrancy of the Bible and says he does not believe in evolution. He wants to amend the Constitution to outlaw abortion, and he is the only candidate who has smeared a gay person in the debates, so far. But Mike Huckabee comes with some serious baggage, and with his rise in the polls comes new scrutiny of his record as governor Arkansas, both in the media and by his opponents, who are quickly finding his record in Little Rock to be what opposition researchers might call a "target-rich environment."

The scandals associated with the Huckabee administration in Arkansas include:
-A rapist released at Huckabee's behest who went on to murder his next victim
-Accusations that Huckabee and his family misappropriated tax-payer funds for personal use
-The charge that at the end of his term, Huckabee ordered the destruction of government computers worth over $300,000, apparently to obstruct possible future investigations
-While he was governor, the state of Arkansas raised taxes by hundreds of millions of dollars

Details follow:
Released Rapist Who Murdered His Next Victim
In 1996, Huckabee made it his cause to release a convicted rapist, Wayne Dumond. Huckabee's motivation in helping Dumond reveals serious questions about his judgment. He allowed himself to be deluded by Clinton-haters in the national media into believing that Dumond was innocent but had been railroaded because his victim was a distant cousin of Bill Clinton.  Within six months after Huckabee gave him his freedom, Dumond raped and then murdered a woman in Missouri. And then, as the scandal unfolded, Huckabee lied about his role in Dumond's release, only to have parole board members and even former staffers came forward to attest to the fact that Dumond would not have been freed without the governor's intervention.

Misappropriation of Tax-Payer Funds
Tucker and his family improperly used money from the taxpayers' $60,000 per-year Governor's Mansion fund for personal expenses like dog food, pantyhose, and meals at Taco Bell.

Destroyed Government Property Possibly to Obstruct Justice
As he was leaving office in January, Huckabee ordered all the computers and hard drives used by his staff to be wiped clean and then crushed, a wanton act of destruction of public property that cost taxpayers $335,000 bill to replace and prompted the question: What was he hiding?

Raised Taxes by Hundreds of Millions
Known in Arkansas as "Tax Hike Mike," during his term in office the state "raised taxes more $505 million per year, a figure adjusted for inflation and economic growth, according to the state's department of finance and administration. The average Arkansan's tax burden grew from $1,969 in the fiscal year ended June 30, 1997 to $2,902 in the fiscal year ended June 30, 2005. Meanwhile, during Mr Huckabee's tenure the state added about 8,000 new fulltime workers to its payroll." According to the Republican anti-tax group, the Club for Growth, "By the end of his 10-year tenure, Gov. Huckabee was responsible for a 37 percent higher sales tax in Arkansas, 16 percent higher motor fuel taxes, and 103 percent higher cigarette taxes according to Americans for Tax Reform (01/07/07), garnering a lifetime grade of D from the free-market Cato Institute."
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In the unlikely event that Huckabee should become the GOP nominee --- or in the more likely event that he's added to a Romney or Giuliani ticket to make them more palatable to the GOP's Christian nationalist base --- Huckabee's extremist religious beliefs could prove fatal to the ticket in the general election.  Here's what Matt Taibbi wrote about Huckabee's religious beliefs in the latest issue of Rolling Stone:
[Huckabee is] full-blown nuts, a Christian goofball of the highest order. He believes the earth may be only 6,000 years old, angrily rejects the evidence that human beings evolved from "primates"... [He] recently scored a rare offend trifecta, simultaneously pissing off immigrants, Jews and the pro-choice crowd when he ludicrously claimed that a "holocaust" of abortions had artificially created a demand for Mexican labor.

And:

As president, Huck would support a constitutional amendment banning abortion and would give science a back seat to religion. "Science changes with every generation and with new discoveries, and God doesn't," he says. "So I'll stick with God if the two are in conflict." Huckabee's well-documented disdain for science was reflected in the performance of the Arkansas school system when he was governor; one independent survey gave the state an F for its science standards in schools, a grade that among other things reflected Huckabee's hostility toward the teaching of evolution."

With a record like Huckabee's, Republicans would be fools to put him on the ticket next year --- and Democrats should pray that they do.
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Re: CNN Debate Scorecard "Strategists" EXPOSED!
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2007, 10:40:29 am »
Hucky needs to get his grill fixed.