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Texas Yanks Thomas Jefferson From Teaching Standard
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/texas-removes-thomas-jefferson-from-teaching-standard/19397481


The Texas Board of Education is dropping
President Thomas Jefferson from a world history
section devoted to great political thinkers.


(March 12) -- Widely regarded as one of the most important of all the founding fathers of the United States, Thomas Jefferson received a demotion of sorts Friday thanks to the Texas Board of Education.

The board voted to enact new teaching standards for history and social studies that will alter which material gets included in school textbooks. It decided to drop Jefferson from a world history section devoted to great political thinkers.

According to Texas Freedom Network, a group that opposes many of the changes put in place by the Board of Education, the original curriculum asked students to "explain the impact of Enlightenment ideas from John Locke, Thomas Hobbes, Voltaire, Charles de Montesquieu, Jean Jacques Rousseau and Thomas Jefferson on political revolutions from 1750 to the present."

That emphasis did not sit well with board member Cynthia Dunbar, who, during Friday's meeting, explained the rationale for changing it. "The Enlightenment was not the only philosophy on which these revolutions were based," Dunbar said.

The new standard, passed at the meeting in a 10-5 vote, now reads, "Explain the impact of the writings of John Locke, Thomas Hobbes, Voltaire, Charles de Montesquieu, Jean Jacques Rousseau, Thomas Aquinas, John Calvin and Sir William Blackstone."

By dropping mention of revolution, and substituting figures such as Aquinas and Calvin for Jefferson, Texas Freedom Network argues, the board had chosen to embrace religious teachings over those of Jefferson, the man who coined the phrase "separation between church and state."

According to USA Today, the board also voted to strike the word "democratic" from references to the U.S. form of government, replacing it with the term "constitutional republic." Texas textbooks will contain references to "laws of nature and nature's God" in passages that discuss major political ideas.

The board decided to use the words "free enterprise" when describing the U.S. economic system rather than words such as "capitalism," "capitalist" and "free market," which it deemed to have a negative connotation.

Serving 4.7 million students, Texas accounts for a large percentage of the textbook market, and the new standards may influence what is taught in the rest of the country.
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Re: Thomas Jefferson To Be Removed From School Textbooks in Texas
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2010, 12:07:09 AM »
This is gross :-X

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Re: Thomas Jefferson To Be Removed From School Textbooks in Texas
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2010, 12:14:41 AM »
The Enlightenment, Texas Style
http://chroniclecareers.com/blogPost/The-Enlightenment-Texas-Style/21791/
March 14, 2010
By Laurie Fendrich

The great state of Texas is about to change our understanding of the Enlightenment for its high school students. The State Board of Education rejected the old understanding of the Enlightenment--the one where students were expected to learn how to “explain the impact of Enlightenment ideas from John Locke, Thomas Hobbes, Voltaire, Charles de Montesquieu, Jean Jacques Rousseau, and Thomas Jefferson on political revolutions from 1750 to the present.” In its deep wisdom, the Board, in a 10-5 party-line vote, has just revised its social-studies curriculum.

The conservative majority has concocted a revision of the old curriculum that rewrites a fair amount of history, much of the time by subtly changing little phrases or substituting words like "leadership" for "role" when the text talks about a hallowed Republican such as Nixon, but occasionally by stepping in to effect a major overhaul. The Enlightenment, in particular, was subjected to such profound tinkering that it really ought to be renamed. I propose calling it, “The New and Improved, Texas-Style Enlightenment.”

In the new Texas version, the word "Enlightenment" is nowhere to be found. Instead students will learn to “explain the impact of the writings of John Locke, Thomas Hobbes, Voltaire, Charles de Montesquieu, Jean Jacques Rousseau, Thomas Aquinas, John Calvin, and Sir William Blackstone.”

Huh? The very word “Enlightenment” can no longer be uttered? Thomas Jefferson, kaput? Apparently, according to the Texas Board. Jefferson never should have written that darn phrase “separation of church and state,” nor let anyone see his deist cards. And who could have guessed that the Texas Board, made up of regular Texans—lawyers, a dentist, a real estate guy, some teachers, etc.—would have ferreted out what Enlightenment scholars have missed all these years: Aquinas and Calvin are critical to understanding the Enlightenment, while Jefferson is not.

The perversion of knowledge into state propaganda resembles nothing so much as what the Communist bloc did to ideas in the mid-20th century. More fearful of ideas than guns, they simply banned any ideas they didn't like. In wiping out Jefferson, in particular, the Texas board looks a lot like the communists who used to airbrush out of official state photos those who had been executed after the famous 1948 Czech show trials.

This is a preliminary approval, subject to public comment. The final vote is supposed to take place in May.


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Re: Thomas Jefferson To Be Removed From School Textbooks in Texas
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2010, 12:20:52 AM »


  This is crazy.  It's a good thing that Mt. Rushmore is in South Dakota.  If it was in Texas, the Texas School Board would work to get his face off of Mt. Rushmore.

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Re: Thomas Jefferson To Be Removed From School Textbooks in Texas
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2010, 12:58:59 AM »
Huh? The very word “Enlightenment” can no longer be uttered? Thomas Jefferson, kaput? Apparently, according to the Texas Board. Jefferson never should have written that darn phrase “separation of church and state,” nor let anyone see his deist cards.

These people are rather ignorant...Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptist church was to ease their fears of religious tyranny by government and assuring them that the first amendment will empower their religious freedom.

Mr. President

To messers Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.

Gentlemen

The affectionate sentiments of esteem & approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful & zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, and in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more & more pleasing.

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man & his god, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between church and state. [Congress thus inhibited from acts respecting religion, and the Executive authorised only to execute their acts, I have refrained from presenting even occasional performances of devotion presented indeed legally where an Executive is the legal head of a national church, but subject here, as religious exercises only to the voluntary regulations and discipline of each respective sect.] Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.

I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection and blessing of the common Father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves and your religious association, assurances of my high respect & esteem.

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Re: Thomas Jefferson To Be Removed From School Textbooks in Texas
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2010, 03:01:49 AM »
My pal in Texas claims that a lot of people down there are not happy about it. Evidently extremists took over the board a while back and a number of them got defeated in the last election so this is their parting shot.

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Re: Thomas Jefferson To Be Removed From School Textbooks in Texas
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2010, 06:55:25 AM »
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According to USA Today, the board also voted to strike the word "democratic" from references to the U.S. form of government, replacing it with the term "constitutional republic." Texas textbooks will contain references to "laws of nature and nature's God" in passages that discuss major political ideas.

That's amazing, and needed. The charade has gotten so bad, even our own president calls the US a democracy. I hear politicians call it a democracy all the time, and it simply isn't, and never was. And if I'm not mistaken, Jefferson wasn't fond of democracy himself.

It's not suprising that group would push Jefferson out, seeing he was for seperation of church and state, because he saw how manipulative and biased religious people can be, which was exactly what they left England over.

It's also clear they have an agenda to promote certain historical figures that promote a certain ideology as "great", rather than simply state historical facts and let people decide for themselves what they think of a past leader.
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Re: Thomas Jefferson To Be Removed From School Textbooks in Texas
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2010, 07:44:57 AM »



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Re: Thomas Jefferson To Be Removed From School Textbooks in Texas
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2010, 08:24:48 AM »
Honest to god... I 

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Glad I moved the hell outta there
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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2010, 11:04:55 AM »
That's amazing, and needed. The charade has gotten so bad, even our own president calls the US a democracy. I hear politicians call it a democracy all the time, and it simply isn't, and never was. And if I'm not mistaken, Jefferson wasn't fond of democracy himself.


Yes, Jefferson was not fond of the word democracy---"A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine."  ~Thomas Jefferson

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Re: Thomas Jefferson To Be Removed From School Textbooks in Texas
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2010, 02:13:17 AM »
Anaylize this closely... I'm doing an article on it now that looks a what is actually being accomplished by this... this is some scary stuff to be sure!

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Re: Thomas Jefferson To Be Removed From School Textbooks in Texas
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2010, 05:38:57 PM »
Anaylize this closely... I'm doing an article on it now that looks a what is actually being accomplished by this... this is some scary stuff to be sure!

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Yes, indeed this is scary and more evidence of the revision of our history. The very last sentence of the article explains that this revision will set a standard for the rest of the country to follow.

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Serving 4.7 million students, Texas accounts for a large percentage of the textbook market, and the new standards may influence what is taught in the rest of the country.
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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2010, 05:50:24 PM »
The elite are simply trying to rewrite our History, yet again, to conform to what they want in their NWO! Anyone who thinks differently from them, they simply want to erase. These people are sick!
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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2010, 06:57:44 PM »


Another example - I'm no fan of Churchill, he was a Fabian Socialist supreme, but the fact that history is being redacted right in front of our eyes and academics are NOT up in arms is staggering.




Churchill dropped from England's history syllabus

Posted Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:16am AEST
Updated Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:57am AEST

Britain's World War II prime minister Winston Churchill has been cut from a list of key historical figures recommended for teaching in English secondary schools, a government agency says.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/07/13/1977438.htm?section=justin


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Re: Thomas Jefferson To Be Removed From School Textbooks in Texas
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2010, 07:03:29 PM »
This is some serious Neocon stuff.

Very, very weird.

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« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2010, 07:07:55 PM »
I used to teach colonial American history in Saint Augustine, Florida. Kids are already dumber than a sack of rocks, now they're just adding insult to injury. I can't tell you how many kids didn't know when the Civil War started or ended.

I wrote an iReport for CNN about this very topic (http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-419387).

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« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2010, 07:24:43 PM »
Makes me want to puke.
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« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2010, 07:27:34 PM »
Makes me want to puke.

You and me both. I love history. I can't believe this is America anymore, where history is being removed from the text books infront of everyones eyes and nobody seems to care, other than passing news reports that don't address what is at stake.
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Re: Thomas Jefferson To Be Removed From School Textbooks in Texas
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2010, 07:53:03 PM »
Makes sense.  The NWO considers the U.S. constitution a threat, so why not make its author a non-person, Soviet-style?

Maybe, Texas should think about changing the system by which it approves texts for the classroom.

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« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2010, 11:03:56 PM »
Just like in "1984" - they were constantly revising history.
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« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2010, 01:33:35 PM »
Thomas Jefferson (April 13, 1743 – July 4, 1826)[2] was the third President of the United States (1801–1809), the principal author of the Declaration of Independence (1776), and—for his promotion of the ideals of republicanism in the United States—one of the most influential Founding Fathers. Jefferson envisioned America as the force behind a great "Empire of Liberty"[3] that would promote republicanism and counter the imperialism of the British Empire.

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« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2010, 04:27:39 PM »
Thomas Jefferson (April 13, 1743 – July 4, 1826)[2] was the third President of the United States (1801–1809), the principal author of the Declaration of Independence (1776), and—for his promotion of the ideals of republicanism in the United States—one of the most influential Founding Fathers. Jefferson envisioned America as the force behind a great "Empire of Liberty"[3] that would promote republicanism and counter the imperialism of the British Empire.

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Of course don't forget that he was a slave owner *dun dun dun*. Neo-liberals never tire of pointing this out  ::) and completely ignore how hypocritical their retro-outrage actually is.

In 200 years we will probably be considered barbaric for using fossil fuels, mobile phones and third world manufactured goods. Yet our lives and commerce depend upon all three of them.

Some of the first slaves in the American Colonies were Irish prisoners for heck sake. I am Irish on my mothers side so I could come from slave stock.

"By the eighteenth century indentured servants (white slaves) outnumbered African slaves in the North American colonies"[ref]

This argument of slave ownership (the "Rich, White Men argument") is constantly used to try and taint the founding fathers reputations.


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Re: Thomas Jefferson To Be Removed From School Textbooks in Texas
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2010, 05:58:30 PM »
I'm not a fan of Calvin or Calvinism.
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« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2010, 06:04:57 PM »
I'm not a fan of Calvin or Calvinism.

Yeah, Calvin is who replaced Jefferson. WTF? Oh well, you'd have to teach the kids about the Rev war in the first place for Jefferson to come up. As it is, they just tell them that they signed the Decleration of Independence on July 7, 1776 and that's pretty much it. They don't talk about how nobody ever gathered at once to sign the Decleration, or that the War didn't even end until 1784. To most kids, the way that it's presented, the Decleration of Independence is when the war ended.

That's why I love reenacting. Reenactors have a great, no B.S. approach to history. It saddens me that so many people are being brought up in this country with no idea what their founding fathers represented. Instead, they're shown as white men who didn't want to pay taxes. When what they really represented was that ALL men are created equal, that no man should bow to another and call him King, that we should all have the right to be free and independent human beings.
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Texas schools to replace works of Thomas Jefferson, with Aquinas and Calvin.


Well here is my first attempt to land a paying job in the journalistic trade... it is edited a bit but not too bad... 1 or 2 of my misspellings got through though... that's the editor's fault... right...(chuckle)...  ;D

http://www.summitdaily.com/article/20100320/COLUMNS/100319761/1026&parentprofile=1058

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Texas schools to replace works of Thomas Jefferson, with Aquinas and Calvin.


Well here is my first attempt to land a paying job in the jounalistic trade... it is edited a bit but not too bad... 1 or 2 of my miss spellings got through though... that's the editors fault... right...(chuckle)...  ;D

http://www.summitdaily.com/article/20100320/COLUMNS/100319761/1026&parentprofile=1058

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Good piece, JT, even with the typo or two! I wonder what really makes this Dunbar woman tick?
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Re: Thomas Jefferson To Be Removed From School Textbooks in Texas
« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2010, 07:50:47 AM »
It's fitting that Jefferson would be removed because the pricipals of the enlightenmnet are dead in America , Jefferson's enlightenment ideals are fodder for zealots to shout "new age" , when in fact he was a humanist long before the paranoiacs and there labels.
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Texas schools to replace works of Thomas Jefferson, with Aquinas and Calvin.


Well here is my first attempt to land a paying job in the jounalistic trade... it is edited a bit but not too bad... 1 or 2 of my miss spellings got through though... that's the editors fault... right...(chuckle)...  ;D

http://www.summitdaily.com/article/20100320/COLUMNS/100319761/1026&parentprofile=1058

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Very good piece, JT. 


Side issue:
I am also wondering, coming from Texas, maybe the revisionary doesn't like Ron Paul? Ron Paul (district 14 in Texas) is very Jeffersonian in his way of thinking.
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« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2010, 09:42:45 AM »
they probably saying Thomas Jefferson incites violent behavior.



"And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants" Thomas Jefferson

"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson


THOMAS JEFFERSON (Author of Declaration of Independence, member Continental Congress, Governor of Virginia, Minister to France, Secretary of State, Vice President, 3rd President ) "On every question of construction (of the Constitution) let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed." 12 Jun 1823 (The Complete Jefferson p.32)

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." (Jefferson Papers, p. 334, C.J. Boyd, 1950)

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." (Thomas Jefferson Papers p. 334, 1950)
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Very good piece, JT.  


Side issue:
I am also wondering, coming from Texas, maybe the revisionary doesn't like Ron Paul? Ron Paul (district 14 in Texas) is very Jeffersonian in his way of thinking.

I would love to have these discussions with you guys in the comment section under the article... this way The editorial staff can gauge the response... I am in the running for the job with several others so I am not yet firmly seated in THE columnist seat just yet.

Donnay,

An interesting point... and it aims to the possible motivations behind this state move... Also , there are many of Ron Paul's stripe beginning to rise... it is possible that this is an end run around the next generation to herd them back toward the global herd mentality... We must see that this fails...

The idea that Jefferson's "Enlightenment" creates the "New Age herd" is total misinterpretation by many people. It is more likely the wrongful utilization by the globalists of Jefferson as well as Paine's work here, to infect our natural community mentality which is being reinforced by the institutional schools... In the old days before the 1950 or so individual growth and expression was encouraged more in light of good moral upbringing to create free thinkers... we are far from this today I'm afraid, primarily because of the disintegration of the Family into a "one size fits all" state controlled institution.

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Texas schools to replace works of Thomas Jefferson, with Aquinas and Calvin.


Well here is my first attempt to land a paying job in the jounalistic trade... it is edited a bit but not too bad... 1 or 2 of my miss spellings got through though... that's the editors fault... right...(chuckle)...  ;D

http://www.summitdaily.com/article/20100320/COLUMNS/100319761/1026&parentprofile=1058

Give me a hand guys... If you are of a mind... don't slam me too hard... I need the job... and the paycheck...

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Great article JT
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Re: Thomas Jefferson To Be Removed From School Textbooks in Texas
« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2010, 03:35:48 PM »
Thanks Route...

The editorial faux pas were all corrected for the printed version and it is tastfully done... the "ugly mug shot" is much smaller too... thank God.

The arguement is that in these matters the state holds sway... this is the new "States rights" faction attempting to take over the 10th Amendment movement... as I told Dok over on PMF earlier today, this is a globalist end run... Here is the gist of the very healthy exchange we had.

Quote from: Dok on March 20, 2010, 10:44:58 AM
So that wouldnt apply to a State then would it?


To answer your question Dok...

Yes, the Constitution is an agreement entered into between the States, only part of it creates the "protective" central federal agent.... The signed and ratified Agreement is to be adhered to... Remember that the Constitution was not fully ratified until the Bill of Rights was signed on Dec. 15, 1791 because several states were only tentative signers, conditioned on the Bill of rights... before that the Constitution was a potential only that would have faded away unratified without the Bill of Rights.

All this talk of States not following the Constitution, and that it only applies to the FEDS, is Globalist, divisive, BS and should be debated down at every turn.

I would love to engage in these debates on line in the comment section of the article... that way it would show the editor and publisher the interest there is in these Centrist Constitutional issues and help my chances of getting the job... I'm up against some stiff Center Globalist opposition here as you will see as this competition unfolds. Please help... thanks you guys.


Anyway... the 10th Amendment movement is being hijacked into a faux "states rights" thing that seeks to ignore the constitution as badly as the feds have... what a mess...

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Re: Thomas Jefferson To Be Removed From School Textbooks in Texas
« Reply #35 on: March 20, 2010, 05:33:48 PM »
The exchanges on this subject continue in a "Faux states rights" vein between Dok and I that get's to the heart of the secessionist takeover of the 10th Amendment State Sovereignty Movement over the last 6 months... I wish I would have been around to help stop it....

http://propagandamatrix.com/forum/index.php/topic,7093.msg18217.html#msg18217

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Texas schools to replace works of Thomas Jefferson, with Aquinas and Calvin.


Well here is my first attempt to land a paying job in the journalistic trade... it is edited a bit but not too bad... 1 or 2 of my misspellings got through though... that's the editor's fault... right...(chuckle)...  ;D

http://www.summitdaily.com/article/20100320/COLUMNS/100319761/1026&parentprofile=1058

Give me a hand guys... If you are of a mind... don't slam me too hard... I need the job... and the paycheck...

Thanks

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I just edited your message there, JT. ;)

If you need anyone to proofread your submissions before you send them to the publisher, I'm your man.

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Re: Thomas Jefferson To Be Removed From School Textbooks in Texas
« Reply #37 on: March 25, 2010, 02:47:02 PM »
IT seems like the board is coming from what they deem to be a neoPuritan/free market perspective and they mean well. However, the road to h-e-double hockey sticks is paved with good intentions...

It's true that the Enlightenment wasn't the only basis for the revolution. However, if you're going to go all the way back to Calvin and Aquinas (that's cool, due to "Just War" doctrine), why not include Luther? Why not talk about the Radical Reformation and the Anabaptists? And Jefferson?