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Author Topic: Shouting at President is Nothing New: contrary to Media Distortions of Truth!!!  (Read 1513 times)
Satyagraha
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« on: September 10, 2009, 07:08:24 AM »

Let's go back in history to see how the MEDIA LIES about this 'unprecedented' attack on Obama during his speech on 9/9/09... but this is NOT new.

From Media (Spin) Matters...

Pundits called Dems' reaction during Bush address "unprecedented," but Republicans booed Clinton
February 04, 2005 6:38 pm ET
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Media figures have falsely claimed that Democrats' audible disapproval of President Bush's misleading claim in his February 2 State of the Union address that Social Security will be "exhausted and bankrupt" in 2042 was "unprecedented." In fact, Republicans routinely booed and hissed during President Clinton's State of the Union addresses.

Many hosts and pundits suggested the Democrats' reaction was the first of its kind:

TED KOPPEL (ABC host): When the president talked about the bankruptcy of Social Security, there were clearly some Democrats on the floor who thought that that was taking it too far. And they did something that, apparently, no one at this table has ever heard before. They booed. [ABC, Nightline, 2/2/05; Koppel's panel consisted of former Bush adviser Mary Matalin, former Reagan chief of staff Ken Duberstein, and former Clinton speechwriter Michael Waldman]

JOHN ROBERTS (CBS White House correspondent): At a couple points in this address, it looked more like the British Parliament than the United States Congress. I've never heard the minority party shout at the president during the State of the Union address. [CBS, post-speech coverage, 2/2/05]

JOE SCARBOROUGH (former U.S. representative (R-FL) and MSNBC host): After the Democrats booed and hissed, Republicans were on the floor saying, you know, we never once did that to Clinton. So every time he would talk about Social Security, the roars got a little louder. And they got behind their president. [MSNBC, Hardball, 2/2/05]

BOB BARR (former U.S. representative (R-GA) and CNN contributor): It will be a very, very difficult battle as we saw by the unprecedented and, I think, highly improper virtual booing of the president when he simply said that the system is going to be bankrupt and the time is now to fix it. [CNN, Inside Politics, 2/3/05]

JOE WATKINS (radio host and CNN substitute host): Did you hear it? Certainly not the polite protocol usually practiced when a president speaks to Congress. If a Democrat one day delivers a State of the Union address, I hope the Republicans won't lower themselves to such a disrespectful level. I hope last night's behavior by a few lawmakers doesn't set a new precedent, that both parties can agree to remain civil, even when voicing disagreements.

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PAUL BEGALA (CNN host): Let me correct your history -- 1993, I was with President Bill Clinton in that House chamber when he addressed a joint session of Congress. And Republicans heckled him when he cited Congressional Budget Office statistics about the deficit. [CNN, Crossfire, 2/3/05]

JOHN GIBSON (FOX News host): Maryanne Marsh, what did you think of those audible jeers, boos, for the president? It sounded a little like the House of Commons: that grumbling that comes from the back-benchers when they don't like something [British Prime Minister] Tony Blair said. That isn't very common for state of the union speeches, is it?

MARYANNE MARSH (Democratic strategist): I don't ever remember hearing it, and was very surprised. But I have to say at least the good news is the Democrats are fighting and they're on offense. And they're more united than they've ever been against George Bush and the Republicans. [FOX News, The Big Story with John Gibson, 2/3/05]

In addition to the 1993 State of the Union, during which, as Begala pointed out, Republicans heckled Clinton, they also voiced their disapproval in three other Clinton State of the Union addresses, which were presumably attended by then-members of Congress Scarborough and Barr:

"Clinton's proposal to expand Medicare to allow Americans as young as 55 to buy into the system drew shouts of "no" and some boos from Republicans during his speech." [Chicago Tribune, 1/28/98]

"Only once did they unmistakably and collectively show their disapproval -- when Clinton spoke disparagingly of a GOP-sponsored constitutional amendment to balance the budget. Many Republicans hissed and some booed." [Los Angeles Times, 2/5/97]

"The upheaval wrought by the Republican election landslide was visible throughout the president's State of the Union address -- from the moment Speaker Newt Gingrich took the gavel to the striking silence that often greeted Clinton from the GOP. At one point, Republicans even booed. About 20 of them left as Clinton went on and on for an hour and 20 minutes." [Associated Press, 1/24/95]

As Media Matters for America has noted, the assertion that Social Security will be "exhausted and bankrupt" in 2042 is misleading, since Bush's own Social Security board of trustees reported in 2004 that "[p]resent tax rates would be sufficient to pay 73 percent of scheduled benefits" after 2042 and "68 percent of scheduled benefits in 2078."

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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2009, 07:12:13 AM »

JOE WILSON – HERO OF THE PEOPLE!
posted by ANGRY WHITE DUDE
9:11 PM Wednesday, September 9, 2009
http://angrywhitedude.com/?p=2446

During Hussein Hopenchange’s speech trying to sell Americans government run health care they have spent all summer telling him they don’t want, a South Carolina Republican heckled the President. Obama had just said that illegal immigrants would not be covered under his health care plan when Congressman Joe Wilson yelled “liar.” Good for him! Question is, why didn’t the rest of the Republicans join him? Decorum? Respect for Obama?

Obama and his hit-men have been attacking taxpaying Americans for voicing their opinions at this summer’s town hall meetings. The DemonRats have not tried to persuade us why we should support ObamaCare. Instead, they preferred to call us Nazis, mobs, evil mongers and tea-baggers. These are only the names coming from the top echelon of the DemonRatic party like Pelosi, Reid and Barbara Boxer!

The Republican gloves must come off in Washington. Taxpaying conservative Americans are sick and tired of government and lying politicians and demand our elected leaders take the fight to the enemy! If Republicans want to continue to “work across the aisle” with their “good friends on the left,” we don’t need them! If they believe it is better to sit back and do nothing while the Democrat Socialist party destroys America, we don’t need them! If they cannot fight for the Constitution, we don’t need them. I can tell you….about 95% of the elected Republicans…we don’t need them! It is time for citizens to unseat these professional wastes of space politicians! John McCain, Olympia Snowe, John Cornyn, Lindsay Graham and tons of other RINO’s…screw them! Give me a bunch of Joe Wilson’s and we’ll stop the damage being inflicted on this country!

Here’s the vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0PqBiNUyqU&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fangrywhitedude%2Ecom%2F%3Fp%3D2446&feature=player_embedded
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~ Thomas Paine, A Dissertation on the First Principles of Government, 1795
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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2009, 07:20:01 AM »

"Hussein Hopeandchange"

classic.
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