Tips To Survive: What Will You Do When The Crap Hits The Fan?

[Dustbunny]

4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried, for home uses.
*edit* you can dry wood by taking them near your fireplace. A tent is good only for backup, take one if you can carry it, but you really want to be living in a tipi, you can have a fireplace inside. How to build one: http://www.inquiry.net/outdoor/native/skills/teepee.htm
Then you paint it with camo pattern, how to: http://www.inquiry.net/outdoor/native/skills/tepee_painting.htm
Then you top that off with a camo net: http://www.camouflage-fabric.com/camouflage-netting.shtml
11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled ect.,)
*edit* not necessary, you don't need it when you're cooking rice and the meat you'll be eating is game, game don't need any oil, it tastes different from the meat you've been accustomed to, I recommend black pepper and chili powder...
12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly)
*edit* I just love my Zippo, but it's not an ideal survival tool, so I got myself one of these: http://www.amazon.com/GI-Aviation-Survival-Fire-Starter-Tool/dp/B000E99BJ8
19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, ect.
*edit* Washable diapers: http://www.finnpartnership.fi/default.asp?docId=13097
21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)
*edit* All you need is fire, a wok, a frying pan, pot (hemp seeds also) and a kettle
25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms)
*edit* and a cold resistant sleeping bag...

7. The feeling that you're human can fade pretty fast. I can't tell you how many people I knew who would have traded a much needed meal for just a little bit of toothpaste, rouge, soap or cologne. Not much point in fighting if you have to lose your humanity. These things are morale-builders like nothing else.
*edit* cologne is a bad idea when your hiding...
8. Slow burning candles and matches, matches, matches.
9. More matches
*edit* If you take matches remember that you don't need all the boxes, just tear couple of scratch surfaces off the matchbox, the fill a glass jar with matches and throw the scratch surfaces on top of the matches (put them in a small minigrip bag, you don't want to ignite those matches when you're running), because matches are ruined once wet... and like i said before: http://www.amazon.com/GI-Aviation-Survival-Fire-Starter-Tool/dp/B000E99BJ8

...and know this: http://www.revwar75.com/library/rees/kitchen.htm


...but most important thing is to seriously think what you need, what you can carry is limited. Find your own secluded hiding place, do it soon, because it's easier when the shit hits the fan, that you know where you're going... the ideal is that you have time to dig a hole or find a natural cave, where you can hide your stockpile, and better yet, if it were big enough to drive your pickup into when the shit hits the fan, you can't leave your car near the area you're hiding...

Oh, and when the shit hits the fan, remember to take your grill grid with you, leave the grill but take the grid...

[thegirlthatstays]

Interesting stuff! Thx!

[phasma]

Really great PRACTICAL book (everything from finding food, to building shelters and toilets to improv toilet paper!)

When all hell breaks loose - cody lundin

http://www.amazon.co.uk/When-All-Hell-Breaks-Loose/dp/142360105X

[dlvrme]

Really great PRACTICAL book (everything from finding food, to building shelters and toilets to improv toilet paper!)

When all hell breaks loose - cody lundin

http://www.amazon.co.uk/When-All-Hell-Breaks-Loose/dp/142360105X

Ok, so my dad was born in sod house in Scottsbluff NE in 1944.  THey did not have plumbing until he was nine.  This made me remember what he would always say about the outhouse and the above highlighted quote.

Sears Catolog

[Kilika]

Good point, and raises a question...

Do these scanners you speak of pick up the new digital emergency channels? Seems I remember talk of police at least moving to new radio system or something preventing the public from access as they have been able to do in the past through off-the-shelf scanners.

[phasma]

Not able to do this in the UK - not simce they skipped to quatra and the new gen radios. . .

shame

a scanner that can capture (PMR) 446Mhz  in the uk is useful - i have one with close call capture - iv`e picked up a tail a few times with it . . .

[EvadingGrid]

Not able to do this in the UK - not simce they skipped to quatra and the new gen radios. . .

shame

a scanner that can capture (PMR) 446Mhz  in the uk is useful - i have one with close call capture - iv`e picked up a tail a few times with it . . .

Probably against the law in the UK, you know wot the dizzies are like luv 

[phasma]

nope - i think its probably ok, i bought my scanner openly at maplin - and im in UK ! Anyway - how they gonna know !

[EvadingGrid]

nope - i think its probably ok, i bought my scanner openly at maplin - and im in UK ! Anyway - how they gonna know !

heheh
 

[phasma]

Got to love scanners

Always useful to have !

[Jxg31]

As the globalist agenda finds it's way farther... I find myself wondering what I will do in the event of an epidemic/pandemic.  I don't want to take the vaccination and will not, am armed and want to start a basic list of things I may need to live in my home without need of leaving.  With that said in the case of an outbreak and a quarantine what will people do in the event of paying things like bills and such. I am 24 and have debt like anyone else, so the only fear I have is falling into bad credit. It's like I am willing and able to physically leave the confines of society but find myself chained due to the fact that I am slightly dependent on the way in which I live.

So i need a list of things to have to survive at home.

I have a garden right now but need to find a book also on the flaura and fauna of NY state.

If any of you are in NY state we should devise a plan of meet up in the event of catastrophe.

[Cryptvill]

i think we do need more unity bewteen us, more plans in case TSHTF cause we all know we wont have the internet or prolly even phones to contact each other.

so itd be nice to plan more, but i guess thats all in the hands of the beholder to get out there and make plans.

[America2]

The hardest part is trying to warn everyone. It's not so much everyone is "asleep sheeple", per se, but we live in a VERY Politically Correct Society. I mean you can't even say ANYTHING NEGATIVE about ANYTHING. If you even THINK the US economy is on its final throe, then you're a "Doom and Gloomer". If you think there's going to be a major pandemic outbreak this fall, then you're a "Crazy Conspiracy Theorist".

"We're too big to fail", "Don't worry, we'll have another Reagan Revolution next year when Obama fails, and the GOP will win the midterms in a landslide and usher in their smaller government agendas", "America has always been the big, generous superpowers of the world - no way they fall", "We've had economies worse than this, and we even got through the Great Depression", and pretty much every PC BS you hear all the time.

[Jxg31]

okay so regardless of what you said with all do respect i need some assistance in a garden and living off the land if need be.

Anyone got any ideas or tips?

anyone from NY?

[Jxg31]

Does anyone know a good book or survival guide for living off the land?

Anyone live in NY and want to start a coalition for when all this shit goes down.

[Cryptvill]

okay so regardless of what you said with all do respect i need some assistance in a garden and living off the land if need be.

The best way to do it is to check some books. Check the 'questions' subforum here, there is a good topic on it. Find some good books on organic farming, read, then try. I plan on getting a book on farming, and a book on preserving the food in the upcoming few months then starting a garden next year.

[Cryptvill]

all you need: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=1626.0

[Nailer]

does anyone have a new link for kens solar stove and fire starter as the original links do not work . Is the site closed?

[phasma]

Get yourself a good book. There is much to learn - too much to put in this thread really.
Basics tips though:

Main priority - shelter !
This should be inconspicuous, off the floor if possible (to avoid insects / animals etc etc) water and wind proof - a tent might be best if you have time to prepare - the pop up variety are good for ease of use and portability !

Next Water! Take some with you or locate camp next to natural water - take filter and means to sterilise it. Note - if their is big scary wildlife around dont sleep too near water sources !

Next - Food - take your own or learn what is edible locally and how to hunt / fish. If your hiding a fire is out. Theere are military food warmers available that might be worth investing in

Make sure you take a radio - (wind up probably best)

And sort sanitation asap ! Keep loo area away from water sources !

[phasma]

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For winter time what should i do ?

Insulation is key. (Where are you located - it may give me a better idea of what to suggest).
Keep off the floor (cold seeps into you - also avoid plastic close to your face - the condensation will freeze - very uncomfortable (speaking from experience). Wear something that covers your head - most heat loss occurs through your head - but dont cover your mouth - again the condensation will collect on it and freeze.
Also (weirdly i know) take off your boots ! Your feet get more cold with your boots on ! (I know this from experience also)
you`ll need more water, a way to melt water for drinking.
Keeping warm is key.
Let me know what kind of weather / temps you have locally and i can advise you better.

[TimeLady]

does anyone have a new link for kens solar stove and fire starter as the original links do not work . Is the site closed?

does anyone have a new link for kens solar stove and fire starter as the original links do not work . Is the site closed?

If you're talking about kensolar.com it's been closed for a long, long while.

[Shorty123]

Someone suggested this to me, AND I AM DETERMINED to pass the idea around......
I stay up late evernite reading all the lies, deception, World gone wrong, US Gov, among others are NUTS! WE ARE ALL BEING ROBBED BLIND of Our Constitution, AMONG OTHER THINGS, Doom, Gloom, etc. etc.....and wonder "What's Next?" "What can I/WE Do?" to stop this FAST RIDE TO SOCIALISM in Our Great Nation?
Well, WHY DOESN'T SOME ONE PUT TOGETHER A "MILLION PATRIOT MARCH" on WASHINGTON, DC ?
Maybe the upcoming 9/12 March is just that?
BUT....JUST THOUGHT I'd throw the IDEA OUT THERE & WATCH FOR THIS TO HAPPEN?
YOU MIGHT think to yourself, WELL, WHY doesn't she put something like this together? WELL, I'm working on it....but THOUGHT IF I POST THIS "MILLION PATRIOT MARCH" on Washington thingy, HERE, THERE, and EVERYWHERE...
Well, MAYBE SOON I will be LOADING up the VAN & on my way to DC ?
ALWAYS wanted to see Our Nation's Capitol, anyway....
CAN ANYONE SAY....ROAD TRIP TO FREEDOM ?

Yes, the upcoming protest in March is trying to achieve that very thing, 1 mil peeps.

[Femacamper]

Really, we'd need more like 10 million to make a difference. But even then they'd probably just false flag our asses.

It's better to do things in smaller numbers...it's harder for them to stop guerrilla truthers.

[phasma]

Really, we'd need more like 10 million to make a difference. But even then they'd probably just false flag our asses.

It's better to do things in smaller numbers...it's harder for them to stop guerrilla truthers.

There are many advantages in being small.

Anyone remember gene hackmans speech on this from enemy of the state. Its true.

[RastaFariWasRight]

Or you can simply find a way to move to another country way out of the priority of the NWO until all the dust is settled.
I also think hiding in wooded areas, especially in america, wont be a good option because thats were they will be looking for people.
Hiding more in plane sight could probably be smarter ( like the other guy mentioned as far as being in front of the cameras, tucked in with the herd) but my plan actually is just relocating to another country to be honest. I know this is a global threat but not everywhere will be of direct threat of this.


IMHO They will not succeed, but there will be a LOT of big name countries and cities and people destroyed in the process.
So itll just be a matter of riding out the storm till its over.
Learning to survive in the woods or very rural areas are good to discuss but I dont think it should be a focus.
Can anyone direct me on a thread in here about which countries would be best to relocate to if this stuff kicks off. I already know USA, Mexico, Canada, and UK will probably be out of the question. Ive been looking at south america, i have a trip there this dec to check it out ima stay with a friend out there for 2 weeks.

Anyways and for the rambo posts, Fighting a military with so much technology and numbers on their side etc with little shot guns and pistons wouldnt be smart. Especially when they have bombs, missles, attack vessels, satellite tracking, night vision googles, and anything you can think of on their side, with specially trained soldiers prepared to hunt down militias and people hiding out.
Best to keep a low profile and COMPLETELY AVOID. The nail sticking up is the one that gets hammered.
So dont try to fight them Physically, that wouldn't make sense, just learn how to become stealth.

And to contribute to this thread regarding survival gear, most will depend were you live at obviously-

I think small weapons such as knives, spiked knuckles, etc would be good for close quarters combat or killing,
and a gun for worse situations.

Im not so sure about living out in the woods in a tent, but I think if you can find a decent place somewhere else to live at that provides shelter
I think having your own heirloom seeds and learning to grow crops, fish, and hunt will be definitely useful.

I also think having a wealth in knowledge of natural plants that are ediable, and those that serve medical purposes would be good to know.
As well I think people should get their own Colloidal silver kit to make their own whenever needed, AND maybe look into solar energy panels to provide your own electricity.

I guess the goal here would be self sufficiency.

[life0repeats]

saying it again...the crap hit the fan a long time ago.

[Angry Patriot]

God gave you the will to survive, use it!

[cerpheus]

Everyone here provides such excellent assistance!! This has definitely helped me in the long run with sorting out my supplies.

If their are any Aussies here drop me a line, I can share some information on suppliers & also be a contact when the SHTF.

[Southern Patriot]

I posted this in another thread a little while ago but I figured I would put it here too to explain what I have done to prepare.
We need to remove ourselves from the system so as not to get sucked down the tubes with it.
I feel that I am ready for when the SHTF now. I live in the country and the martial law plans are to just cut us off from the rest of the world and let us starve while the cities get turned into camps. There are only enough actual prison camps to house a little over 3 million people. They plan to lock up opposing political figures and those they think would organize a resistance.
My house is paid for. I challenge the tax assessment every single year! It is your right even though no one does it.
I get my water from a well.
I am working on making my own electricity. My bill is under $100 a month right now. I heat my house with wood and cool it with fans.
I grow and hunt my own food.
I called my ISP and got my bill cut in half when I saw they were offering a promotion to new customers.
I use a magic jack and pay $19 a year for phone service.
I trade with my neighbors and on Craigslist.
I don't shop at Wal-Mart.  f**k WAL-MART!!!!
I don't have a bank account, credit card, line of credit, or loan on anything either.
I also don't buy new cars. Why pay for something that won't be worth even half what you paid by the time you pay it off? I don't like to pay interest on anything either. I bought my house on a no interest owner finance contract.
I only make $700 a month and am comfortable. We do not have all the material bullshit we would like but we are happy.


I feel it is my duty as an American to pay the very least amount of taxes I am legally allowed to do. As a matter of fact, I get a big return every year because I have two kids and I don't make a lot of money.

I take all of my extra cash since I have virtually no bills and buy physical silver bullion.
I prefer to trade in silver when someone agrees to it.

These are the things that everyone must do to bring this corrupt system to its' knees.
I saw a quote from the social viability guy and took it to heart. "Don't fight the system...Replace it!!" I don't agree with his "plan" but I like the statement. I say don't just replace it....Starve it, watch it die, and forget it ever existed. I vote libertarian. Not that I think my vote counts.
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[chris jones]

Hi Rock.

First,if the truth movement has been profiled on an individual basis, as I beleive the masters have been doing this for some time. It is possible we may be flagged as potential threats and be rounded up.
Comumication being the first step, a warning system in this event.

As far as survival, brother thats a tough one. A single guy and his gal may hack it, but the familys are in for a problem.

Cities will be the first to be isolated, the grids and tactics have most likely been prepared.

Those who have not been labeled.

Ok let me hit on. Every form of dictorship has had organized resistance. How, they blend, they wiggle the flag, they hang pictures of Oby in their living room. They keep their jobs, and they play the game, they are phantoms, know only to their groups.
If flaged that is not possible'

If Martial law and the round up of marked indiviuals begins, its time to head for the hills, I suggest those who do have a friend to provide supplies, simply a supply line clandestine, a drop point so to say.
Stash silver coinage for trade as there will be those who will being doing business with hideouts. Never disclose your lair, have backup hide outs with stashes in waiting.
Going it alone is very difficult for those who have never been in the military or had experiencein a survival situation, a partner is recomended, should one be injured, wounded etc. this is imperative.

 That is for starters without getting into a long drawn out opposition and or survival  proposal.

The remainder of equipment nessesary for survival has been well done.

Remember there is sattelite tech, drones, etc. mercs will used for intelligence, there will also be those who seek to blend in and are rats, intelligence operatives on a search, or simply scumbags who sell out info for money, caution is required.

I am with hope that this does not become a reality, but considering the abominations that have taken place it would be a fine idea to prepare, especialy so for us.

We have our matrys, the 3 K's, we do not need more.

[Awake41]

I know how many of you who say you are arming up and I think that's great. People should have a right to defend there Life Liberty and happiness.

I have some Basic tips too prevent gun jams for hunting or camping trips for a prolonged period of  time,

1. Bring lots of Condoms for your gun they are your best friend,  ( Put the Condom over the barrel when going over water or, muddy terrain.

2. Lots of guns is a show of force, Most people can only shoot one gun at a time and be precise with it. To many guns can weigh you down , and get you killed.

3. If your thinking about resisting pack fast and light , be prepared to move at any time all the time,
    If your going too hide get all that you can now for 7 years + or at least 3+ low profile , dont draw attention, keep to yourself.

If your going to run, do it before martial law hits and don't go to Canada Mexico or European Union,


I hope I am wrong about everything and I hope Alex Jones is too
 

[phasma]

Is it just me, or has the crap well and truly hit the fan already?

[phasma]

So I stumbled into my living room at a little after 5 this morning and put on the news for a weather update (my part of the UK has been hit bad with wind / rain / floods in the last few days). I saw that there is a village in Cumbria which has lost 2 of its 3 bridges, and the 3rd bridge is now about to collapse (its "dropped" by a foot from its usual position - more heavy rain and winds of 70 mph expected later this pm mean it likely will collapse). This bridge carries all the electric / gas lines to this village (when i say village, its far larger that you might imagine, its not some tiny place in the middle of no-where, it is apparently one of the biggest villages in the UK).
Once it collapses there will be no way for its inhabitants to get across to the town where all the shops etc are located. They have already closed the bridge, so these people are already in effect cut off. As far as I am aware, the bridge has been closed for less that 24 hours - the news is reporting that already people are running out of food and medication. This got me to thinking . . .

Its not just some govt sponsered NWO disaster that we have to prepare for. In todays world, ANYTHING could happen at ANY time !
Crazy "new" diseases, dirty bombs, chemical attacks, out of season hurricanes, floods, power and food strikes or shortages . . . the list is endless.
I have been preparing for some time now, but still (probably) there is more i should do.
I think now is as good a time as any to remind all of those here who haven`t done so yet to prepare ! NOW!
Preparation, is after all, far better than your best reaction !

[Mike Philbin]

bastard! I was just posting a Romania After Ceausescu post into this and it MOVED = my reply was TRASHED.

Anyway, here's version two.

How can we normal folk in our disorganised families hope to battle against a concerted effort from a New World Order death machine that we've funded with our own money to the tune of TRILLIONS of GCUs (Global Currency Units)?

I thought it'd need some sort of Romania-like internal coup of some sort to truly break the back of this insane tyrannical regime or dogma and propaganda and PROFIT. But then I read this blurb of Tom Gallagher's "Romania After Ceausescu: The Politics of Intolerance" and can't help but think that all sweeping solutions to large-scale social problems tend to leering tyranny...

This, the first comprehensive first-hand account of post-1989 Romania, shows how ex-communist officials have used nationalism to delay the country's passage from a closed to an open political system. Arguing that an agenda of limited change has been pursued by reluctant democrats who have acquired legitimacy by promoting nationalist values from the precommunist era, this is a welcome supplement and balance to media coverage of Romania, placing Romanian nationalism in a wider European context.

[phasma]

For UK PPL !
A google map that shows you the extent of flooding from various sea level rises (you can change it from 1 up to 12 meters)
A useful tool that can be used FYI - plan when you`ll need to get out if you discover (for eg) that at a certain level the place you live will be cut off with no escape routes (which is what i just found out !)

[Jennygal]

Seen a good article by George Ure at http://www.urbansurvival.com/blog/?p=1267 He has great ideas on preping on for alot with not very much money and just wanted to see what others think.

And what other ideas people have.

Jen

[GhostofTsenzei]

Is it just me, or has the crap well and truly hit the fan already?

Not quite, but the crap IS dangling in front of the fan.



Anyway, for myself, I'm sure these sorts of things have been mentioned before, but:

1. First and foremost, be informed about what's going on.  If you don't have information, you can't react properly (or act pro-actively) to what is going on.  It does no good to have built a bomb shelter, for example, if you don't know to get into it when a bomb hits.  Likewise it does no good to go out and protest or fight something without knowing for yourself what it actually is (though there are times when you don't have an opportunity to find out first).

2. Get books.  Books on things like edible plants, how to hunt, skin, and cook animals, how to build rudimentary shelters if need be, etc.  Very basic things, but things that are important if you need to go to ground, and can provide a decent enough basis to survive on.  Books are more important than learning from a person, because you can also use them to barter, or to teach others as well.

3. Get more books.  There's a limit on what you can carry, but depending on your circumstances and resources, it would be good to have books on how to fix cars, basic books on architecture, how to filter water, and basic electronics information.  While you might not carry them all with you if you go to ground, that sort of information can help you survive a lot better in more urban settings, and is also good for barter, or to teach others with in the event that things get really bad.

4. Learning how to shoot.  While I consider this included in hunting, hunting also incorporates different tools.  Learning how to shoot a gun, and other means of defending yourself, are important things in addition to the basics of hunting.

There's more, but in reality, almost all of it is preparation, and learning skills and gathering information.  Knowing who and what you can trust in a crisis, knowing how to react to specific events, etc, and always working to keep yourself busy are the basics of survival.  Before even that though: Never give up.


For myself, I recommend asking around about what books actually are good, and buying them, or seeking them via torrents or other downloads and printing them out.  Also, don't discount getting army manuals as well, as parts of them are also focused on survival, and if nothing else, can give you an insight into military procedure for whatever nation(s) you'll be in.

[J. Croft]

Freedom Tract of Martial Law Survival Guide

You use a duplex printer or it won't work.

Set the print job to print pages 1-4 only.  It will take two sheets per brochure.

Keeping the two printed pages facing in original orientation you cut across.  You should have eight strips.  Stack them atop each other from the top of the first sheet downward then staple. 

You now have a 32 page tract the size of a credit card.  Pass them around everywhere.

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[jofortruth]

http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showforum=103

[netizen_x]

how about some aquaponics?

Aquaponics has been going on for hundred of years; the first example might be in China, when traditionally they would use catfish in rice paddies. It helps fertilize the rice, and they eat insects.

http://www.thewildeast.net/news/?p=384

Throw some crap into the water b4 the crap hits the fan.