Tips To Survive: What Will You Do When The Crap Hits The Fan?

[phasma]

How would it 'go down' exactly? Is there a button somewhere? It was designed to not go down and it won't. Internet 2.0 is a lot more subtle than that.

You don`t believe that those "in power" could stop all internet traffic if they wanted to? Of course they could - just like they can stop all mobile networks at will (eg 911 and 7/7). . .
They could stop mail too so the only reliable form of comms left that i could see would be radio - ham or whatever else. so far as i know there is no way to stop all radio comms (then i could be wrong ? anyone know for sure?)

Im trying to get some info and also get people to think . . . come on guys imagine you get up in the morning and the internet is gone - individuals can try to do something but assuming a media blackout or total marshal law then they can`t be effective can they? In that case what could we do? Just knuckle down and try to survive or is there some things i dont know about yet?

[wembley87]

I have been thinking about this for months and i have absolutely no idea . Not much help i know 

[Libertarian Perspective]

Yeah it is strange but I thought the whole point of the Internet was if one server got hit the others could still operate, that is why the Internet was made. During the Cold War the Americans and Russians couldn't afford one radar station going down or a central hub and the whole country to be wide open for attack. They had to have a system where evenif the main military server crashed, the others could still operate.

Have they actually consolidated Internet linkage in just a few locations? If not they couldn't take physically the Internet down if they tried.

[Anti_Illuminati]

How would it 'go down' exactly? Is there a button somewhere? It was designed to not go down and it won't. Internet 2.0 is a lot more subtle than that.

Alex had talked about this from his own perspective and mentioned some kind of "fight" in the past between L3 Communications and some other company (maybe Cogent) where he said they shut down part of the Internet as a sort of a pissing contest between differing NWO controllers, until their "dispute" was resolved and one acquiesces to the other.  He basically said they can just "push a a few buttons" and its gone.


I am not familiar with AJ's angle on all of that, because I haven't looked into it.  But my perspective addresses another angle.  8 Years ago an AI software program was able to override the otherwise properly functioning and sound systems at the FAA and NORAD, created the phantom 11 flight, and was responsible for the FAA not being aware of the electronically hijacked planes until they had already crashed.  Now imagine how much more advanced this software is today.  It can carry out any false flag involving ANYTHING that uses any time of computerized electronic system.  Any false flag that you can possible imagine, it can either directly carry out, or facilitate in carrying out.  It is unobtrusive, and can operate on any system without the knowledge of even the most astute security experts, admins, scientists, etc.

Here's an example of how this works:

Let's say I work for Booz Allen Hamilton, and I take a trip to Mumbai, India.  I visit with top people in India's government, where there are key individuals who oppose the police state that the NWO demands be setup.  We, at BAH tell them that they must accept "Homeland Security" funding for gamma ray scanners made by SAIC to give people dangerous doses of radiation at checkpoints in order to keep everyone safe from terror (safe from further false flags we participate in.)  You MUST accept these contracts for police state infrastructure.  The government leaders say "You people are insane, the public will never go for this, we will refuse to comply with your criminal tyranny."

Booz Allen representative:  "I see...Sir, How's your daughter doing today?  I see she is on an incoming International flight from Moscow.  You love her very much don't you?  You see this here?  This is a GPS transmitter that communicates to DISA/Northcom, which is tied into the satellites that the NRO has in space.  You either roll out our police state measures or I'm going to press this button which will greenlight Ptech to commandeer your daughter's flight and begin dumping fuel.  It will look 100% like an accident, no one will ever know.  You have 30 seconds to make your decision.  Choose wisely.  Oh, and if that isn't enough, after that we will shut down the nations entire power grid indefinitely (via the Enterprise Architecture frameworks that we had a hand in helping you setup in all of your government, industrial, and corporate computer systems years ago) until you submit to our demands."

[phasma]

No shit. . . I really do believe that while (since i live in uk i`ll use it as an example) one country could not cut all traffic worldwide that it would certainly be able to halt internet traffic within its own borders. . .
I know for example that there are very few cables under the sea connecting us (THE uk) with america - so it would be a relatively simple thing to stop that - same between us and the rest of europe. Then it would be a small matter of shutting down the internet service providers one by one. . . totally possible as far as i can see.

Never mind if they can do it (unless someone here has knowledge to the contrary ) i believe for now that they can - question should really be how can we prepare for this eventuality?

[Libertarian Perspective]

But wasn't the internet designed just so that it wouldn't come to that? If the internet could be shut with just a few buttons, it wouldn't have been developed During the Cold war.

[stymo1]

Alex had talked about this from his own perspective and mentioned some kind of "fight" in the past between L3 Communications and some other company (maybe Cogent) where he said they shut down part of the Internet as a sort of a pissing contest between differing NWO controllers, until their "dispute" was resolved and one acquiesces to the other.  He basically said they can just "push a a few buttons" and its gone.


I am not familiar with AJ's angle on all of that, because I haven't looked into it.  But my perspective addresses another angle.  8 Years ago an AI software program was able to override the otherwise properly functioning and sound systems at the FAA and NORAD, created the phantom 11 flight, and was responsible for the FAA not being aware of the electronically hijacked planes until they had already crashed.  Now imagine how much more advanced this software is today.  It can carry out any false flag involving ANYTHING that uses any time of computerized electronic system.  Any false flag that you can possible imagine, it can either directly carry out, or facilitate in carrying out.  It is unobtrusive, and can operate on any system without the knowledge of even the most astute security experts, admins, scientists, etc.

Here's an example of how this works:

Let's say I work for Booz Allen Hamilton, and I take a trip to Mumbai, India.  I visit with top people in India's government, where there are key individuals who oppose the police state that the NWO demands be setup.  We, at BAH tell them that they must accept "Homeland Security" funding for gamma ray scanners made by SAIC to give people dangerous doses of radiation at checkpoints in order to keep everyone safe from terror (safe from further false flags we participate in.)  You MUST accept these contracts for police state infrastructure.  The government leaders say "You people are insane, the public will never go for this, we will refuse to comply with your criminal tyranny."

Booz Allen representative:  "I see...Sir, How's your daughter doing today?  I see she is on an incoming International flight from Moscow.  You love her very much don't you?  You see this here?  This is a GPS transmitter that communicates to DISA/Northcom, which is tied into the satellites that the NRO has in space.  You either roll out our police state measures or I'm going to press this button which will greenlight Ptech to commandeer your daughter's flight and begin dumping fuel.  It will look 100% like an accident, no one will ever know.  You have 30 seconds to make your decision.  Choose wisely.  Oh, and if that isn't enough, after that we will shut down the nations entire power grid indefinitely (via the Enterprise Architecture frameworks that we had a hand in helping you setup in all of your government, industrial, and corporate computer systems years ago) until you submit to our demands."

AI, that is the kind of explanation we can all relate to. Thanks for presenting that in simple laymens terms. Keep it up.

[life0repeats]

SHTF a long time ago.

[Nailer]

What strategies would there be left open to us for communication? or anything else? As far as i can see we`d mostly all be left isolated and vulnerable. . .
Just started to seriously think about this one - what does everyone think?

pony express?

[wvoutlaw2002]

pony express?

Can't do that...the animal rights Nazis will scream "CRUELTY TO ANIMALS". 

[Zed]

Ham Radio is a possibility for a Backup Plan.

Equipment is insanely hard to find/buy though.

[thought_criminal]

A plan is just a list of thing that don't happen.

 I concur with the Marine saying:   An 80% plan NOW is better than a 100% plan a week from now.
 

  Imperfect action is better than perfect inaction.


  I'm not saying anyone should do anything stupid...  But everyone who's aware should do SOMETHING.

[Unintelligable Name]

....

lol

[creat3d]

That wasn't a plan.

[thought_criminal]

It was meant to be what it was.
 
 If you honestly seek a plan then I refer you to my previous post about seeking help with dandruff.

  Go shit in your hat.

[Unintelligable Name]

I'm preparing for a shit-nado to touch down in this country in the next few years.

But yes... time to plan about having a plan.

 

[thought_criminal]

WTF Sane? 

  I'm about tired of you merging new posts with VERY old ones, and changing the order of my comments.

   I can't imagine how much time you spend at the keyboard... you obviously don't have a girlfriend.

 
   But when I can get away for a second or two and wish to post: I'd appreciate it if you didn't manipulate it all to hell.

 
    I posted in "when crap hits the fan" like going on 2 years ago.   My recent comments started as a *new post*

  Go get laid or f**k your self or something. I need someone to help me take a piss like I need castration.

[| TogetheR |]

Thank you for you great advice. I will definitely look into it.

Cheers 

[jofortruth]

Berkey Light baby!

This is all you will ever need to filter the nastiest water.  Go here and get you one http://www.berkeywater.com/start.main.html

I own this model and love it!  It will be the first thing I defend,


Rock

How long does the filter last on a Berkey before you have to replace it? I bought two of these also.

[Mr.C]

im fairly well prepared..i say fairly because its hard to prepare for everything.

munitions food water..water filters..bugout equipment if necessary..leaving my dwelling is an absolute last resort but am prepared too

im prepared well enough that i can breathe a huge sigh of relief..its a great feeling knowing i can ride the storm in pretty much any direction it takes me. 

that includes NBC all the way down to jackboot thugs

[jofortruth]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OQXZPndh4M&NR=1

Video on how to purify water in an emergency.

[livetobefree]

I took this photo MYSELF with my cellphone camera. And ANYONE can capture this. I have used multiple cameras now and have takin hundreds over photos and they all come out like this. Better cameras it looks more red, but that's the only difference. What I did was I used my cellphone camera, zoomed all the way in, turned the contrast down to help block out some of the sun's rays, and pointed at the sun and there it was. Clear as day. I've have had many many others do this as well and they come back astonished. I was too when I first saw it. It's there people....try for yourself.

[Dok]

I took this photo MYSELF with my cellphone camera. And ANYONE can capture this. I have used multiple cameras now and have takin hundreds over photos and they all come out like this. Better cameras it looks more red, but that's the only difference. What I did was I used my cellphone camera, zoomed all the way in, turned the contrast down to help block out some of the sun's rays, and pointed at the sun and there it was. Clear as day. I've have had many many others do this as well and they come back astonished. I was too when I first saw it. It's there people....try for yourself.

WHY ARE YOU POSTING THIS ON EVERY THREAD??

[livetobefree]

WHY ARE YOU POSTING THIS ON EVERY THREAD??

Why wouldn't I? It's crazy and I want everyone to go out and try it so they know about this. This isn't something that should be kept hush hush. Not in my eyes at least

[Dok]

Dude its crap. All niburu crap comes from Sitchen. And he cant even read accadian. It looks like a reflection on your camera lens, nothing more.

[skyfind]

I took this photo MYSELF with my cellphone camera. And ANYONE can capture this. I have used multiple cameras now and have takin hundreds over photos and they all come out like this. Better cameras it looks more red, but that's the only difference. What I did was I used my cellphone camera, zoomed all the way in, turned the contrast down to help block out some of the sun's rays, and pointed at the sun and there it was. Clear as day. I've have had many many others do this as well and they come back astonished. I was too when I first saw it. It's there people....try for yourself.

Lol, that is photoshop, and, even more:

http://teapotatheism.blogspot.com/2008/05/nibiru-tards-defeated-again.html

Firstly, though it is said that Nibiru is larger than Jupiter, let us be nice and just say that Nibiru is identical in mass to Jupiter- 1.8986*10^27 kilograms. If it were larger, things would be even worse for the Nibiru-tards.

Second, the mass of the sun is 1.9891*10^30 kilograms.

Now, let us think about how much force this would entail being applied between the sun and Nibiru at the perigee of Nibiru's orbit, which is about 1 AU (150 million km) in distance.

The formula used derive how much force two objects are applying on each other by gravity is F=G({m1*m2}/r^2), where G is the gravitational constant (6.67*10^-11) m^3 * kg^-1 * s^-2).

Below I will omit the units for the sake of clarity. The m^3 and the km cancel to produce kg/s with a difference to the exponents of -3 (in case you read the math below and were looking for the three missing digits).

So, let us plug in the numbers:
F=G({m1m2}/r^2)
F=[6.67*10^-11 * ({1.8986*10^27} * {1.9891*10^30})]/(150,000,
000^2)
F=(2.51896*10^45)/(2.25*10^16)
F=1.1952*10^44 N/s

That's 119520000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Newtons of force every second between Nibiru and the sun at its orbit.

But then you might ask, when objects slingshot around the sun, they move quite quickly, which is how they escape. After all, that is how comets escape, right?

Exactly right. Of course, comets do not have the added burden of being thousands of times the mass of our own planet, but that is exactly how they escape- they reach "escape velocity," or, the speed required to escape a gravity well.

So how fast would an object the size of Nibiru, moving in an elliptical orbit, be required to be traveling in order to escape the sun?

The formula for escape velocity is Vsec=[2*G*M/r]^1/2, or, the square root of [2*G*M/r] where G is the gravitational constant, M is the mass being dealt with, and r is the radius of a circle whose diameter is the distance between the objects.

Our G is 6.67*10^-11.
Our M is extracted from the N-M/kg from the first formula, so, 1.1952*10^44.
Our r is 1/2AU, so about 7.5*10^10 km.

Vsec=[2(6.67*10^-11)*(1.1952*10^44)/(7.5*10^10)]^(1/2)
Vsec=({1.5994*10^34}/{7.5*10^10})^(1/2)
Vsec=(2.2126*10^23)^(1/2)
Vsec=1.487*10^7 km/sec.

This means that Nibiru's escape velocity must be 14,870,000 kilometers per second.

To put this utter absurdity into perspective, this is NEARLY SEVEN TIMES THE SPEED OF GODDAMN LIGHT, PEOPLE. THIS SHIT IS GODDAMN IMPOSSIBLE. Tell Zechariah Sitchen to get out his goddamn calculator every now and then and DO THE NUMBERS- this ridiculous superstition CAN. NOT. BE. PERIOD.

If Nibiru were ever travelling even a tiny fraction of that speed, tidal forces would tear it apart. Its wake would vaporize the inner planets. This is ridiculous. Abandon this foolish belief- it is debunked NOW.

Now, please, stop with this shit. And the 2012, when the mayan caledendar cycle ends, it doen´t mean the end of the world, research better, and it doesn´t mean that aliens will come to earth to save us, or that magically all your problems will disappear and you will be in "a world of light"; it comes from YOU the path that you take, as with all the things in the life

[Cywar]

The 5 stages of Catastrophism

1. Deflection => "I haven't got time for this crap"

2. Internalization => "Oh crap!"

3. Externalization => "Share the crap!"

4. Acceptance => "Crap happens"

5. Enlightenment => "The universe is unfolding as it should be"

from: Planet X Forecast and 2012 Survival Guide (pg 66)
==============================
The 5 stages listed above refer to emotional states most people go through when researching Planet X.  Researching the NWO and all the paths out there that seem to go in every direction can be very stressful.  Is there anyone here who has not experienced some type of emotional stress during their research?

There are some here who are years ahead of others in their knowledge base, some are just getting started - some have decided on answers - some have not.  So, I put my knitting down (haha) long enough to say: take it easy on fellow truth seekers, even if their point of view is different from yours.

livetobefree, I think your photo is interesting.  Thank you for sharing it, have you found any others similar to yours on the net?    

[username2]

Lol, that is photoshop, and, even more:

http://teapotatheism.blogspot.com/2008/05/nibiru-tards-defeated-again.html
Now, please, stop with this shit. And the 2012, when the mayan caledendar cycle ends, it doen´t mean the end of the world, research better, and it doesn´t mean that aliens will come to earth to save us, or that magically all your problems will disappear and you will be in "a world of light"; it comes from YOU the path that you take, as with all the things in the life

wow that whole mathematical equation for no reason
nibiru can be on a higher plane of resonance
it can just pop up and disappear without being detected by naked eye

[Unintelligable Name]

nibiru can be on a higher plane of resonance
it can just pop up and disappear without being detected by naked eye

Oh of course!

And it can also be a death star from a civilization coming to kill us. And it could be cloaked. And it could be colored neon yellow. It could be piloted by reptilian nephilim demonic coneheads, and it could say on the side: "We love the funk, we gotta have that funk."

So this probably means we're all going to die and we should have panicked more.

[skyfind]

wow that whole mathematical equation for no reason
nibiru can be on a higher plane of resonance
it can just pop up and disappear without being detected by naked eye

What is wrong with you?, you are saying some bullshit and that the real sciense is not important!. Dude, please, this thread is not for fairy tales. I´m not against the spiritual world, but you are saying only crap things that you took from other website; don´t believe something just because is in a website

PD: I really hope that what you said was a joke

PD2: please, don´t post more about this fake info, this thread is not for that

[username2]

Oh of course!

And it can also be a death star from a civilization coming to kill us. And it could be cloaked. And it could be colored neon yellow. It could be piloted by reptilian nephilim demonic coneheads, and it could say on the side: "We love the funk, we gotta have that funk."

So this probably means we're all going to die and we should have panicked more.

if that thing has mass then think lunar tides x1000000000
most likely a created manmade mass on a higher plane of resonance so it can pop up out of nowhere. That is how the false prophets perform their miracles its like advanced technology and they probably use the same thing on nibiru if it has actually been created.
also can be used to stage an alien invasion of the same false prophets that i mentioned...think project bluebeam kicked up a notch
i read somewhere that it can used used as an interdimensional stargate

[username2]

What is wrong with you?, you are saying some bullshit and that the real sciense is not important!. Dude, please, this thread is not for fairy tales. I´m not against the spiritual world, but you are saying only crap things that you took from other website; don´t believe something just because is in a website

PD: I really hope that what you said was a joke

PD2: please, don´t post more about this fake info, this thread is not for that

IT DOESNT EVEN HAVE TO TRAVEL TO POP UP NEAR EARTH
read my last post
NASA still cant give a straight answer about it because it may not even be detected on their satellites or through telescope because its on a higher plane of resonance
my point is that it can be part of project bluebeam but can have worse consequences if it actually has mass resulting in tides

[skyfind]

IT DOESNT EVEN HAVE TO TRAVEL TO POP UP NEAR EARTH
read my last post
NASA still cant give a straight answer about it because it may not even be detected on their satellites or through telescope because its on a higher plane of resonance
my point is that it can be part of project bluebeam but can have worse consequences if it actually has mass resulting in tides

your last post?

wow that whole mathematical equation for no reason
nibiru can be on a higher plane of resonance
it can just pop up and disappear without being detected by naked eye

From where did you get this info??. Neither the fake investigation of sitchin - www.sitchiniswrong.com - talks about it. Really, from where did you get this info, that this big planet, Nibiru, "can be on a higher plane of resonance" and "it can just pop up and disappear without being detected by naked eye"

And please, don´t link me to a website that neither has a source for this info

thx 

And as i said, please, don´t post more about this fake info, this thread is not for that

[Satyagraha]

I've started to prepare for the upcoming hard times by canning food, moving my money into gold and out of the clutches of the bankers, and I need to get a gun to be able to defend myself. Question - what is the most reasonable gun to buy for someone protecting their home from possible burgulars? I haven't owned a gun in my life before, never thought I'd need one - but I do think it would be foolish not to have self-protection.
Any recommendations?

[acol29]

As for me and my house we will serve the Lord.  We will pray according to Revelation that our flight does not come in the winter.  We will camo up and hide out in the wilderness.  We will use BB guns to kill fowl for protein, as BB guns make no noise.  We will purify creek water to stay hydrated.  We will pull out the big guns only in an absolute life or death emergency.  We will not resist an army, we shall live to fight another day. Peace-

[Kilika]

I've started to prepare for the upcoming hard times by canning food, moving my money into gold and out of the clutches of the bankers, and I need to get a gun to be able to defend myself. Question - what is the most reasonable gun to buy for someone protecting their home from possible burgulars? I haven't owned a gun in my life before, never thought I'd need one - but I do think it would be foolish not to have self-protection.
Any recommendations?

I'd venture to say most people will stay put wherever they are, so you'd most likely encounter a bad guy in and around your home, and in that scenario, a shotgun using say 00 buckshot works wonders in confined spaces. Has both knockdown power and very forgiving on the aim. And buying one has minimal to no legal issues in most states (here in Arizona the guns law are very lax). While the typical longbarrel scatterguns are nice for hunting, for defense it's better to get one of the short-barreled, pistol grip assault type shotguns.

[PainInDaBrain]

me and my friend were talking about this today but i dont know if itll be right but lets see:
The Sh*t hits the fan and people start rushing and revolting everywhere on the state...as some people are still blind sheep they go to malls and jack clothes and shoes they always wanted as they are blindly shot by cops or going crazy.

1.To form a alliance of well trusted friends if they arent killed by anything before it:up to 10 people and no more

2.Go to stores with guns and rifles,big 5,sports authority,markets,grab food,water,orange juice,cartoons,backpacks,try to get as much stuff as possible especially canned food and water bottles

3.Find a house each block or w/e u move to wherever ur going...only head to a house at night and lookout from backyards in morning...at night,eat,smoke,talk and then turn off the lights if there are lights if not use flashlights and take turns taking naps while others are on guard...I dont know about a sniper but i doubt therell be one

4.I dont know if this applys but you answer it,Drive a car or run/walk? because you can ride a car and it may be empty on the streets but u never know whats around the corner...or run and hide and check over the corners..probaly in bigger parts of a town/city

5.Forgot to put this but,get as much first aid kits as u can,anything that can heal infections and such...Grab gask masks,either the cheap plastic ones or the real one probaly bought or stole at sports authority

Btw a question....if the sh*t hits the fan itll mean people will revolt and raids will happen? but also like more cops and martial law...etc?

[ltndeathstrikeonnwo777]

I have already prepare myself not only mentally but physiclly to fight the NWO from within since I am a former military soldier I have seen the truth through the eyes of the beholder and let just say I was already on my way out and ready to reply. My list for all you friends out there is:

1- Climbing Backpack
2- Rope
3- First Aid Kit
4- Tent
5- Tarp
6-Food supply
7-Stove (emergency size)
8-Gun
9- Ammos
10- survival book
11- old newspapers (4)
12-Matches or lighter( wind proof)
13- Water bottle
14- Water purification caps
15- Military Knife
16-Axe( survival )
17-Flash light
18-batteries
19-radio
20-books ( at least 2 good ones to keep your mind and spirit in shape)
21- A shovel ( in case you need to build a underground lair)
and for those of you who do martial arts like me I would recommend that you bring a machete or a ninja sword to keep practicing your art         

[PainInDaBrain]

I have already prepare myself not only mentally but physiclly to fight the NWO from within since I am a former military soldier I have seen the truth through the eyes of the beholder and let just say I was already on my way out and ready to reply. My list for all you friends out there is:

1- Climbing Backpack
2- Rope
3- First Aid Kit
4- Tent
5- Tarp
6-Food supply
7-Stove (emergency size)
8-Gun
9- Ammos
10- survival book
11- old newspapers (4)
12-Matches or lighter( wind proof)
13- Water bottle
14- Water purification caps
15- Military Knife
16-Axe( survival )
17-Flash light
18-batteries
19-radio
20-books ( at least 2 good ones to keep your mind and spirit in shape)
21- A shovel ( in case you need to build a underground lair)
and for those of you who do martial arts like me I would recommend that you bring a machete or a ninja sword to keep practicing your art         

good list, + how would u get water purification caps? what are they please explain (yes im stupid) and also stove emergency size? and the lighter(wind proof) etc

[therabbithole2012]

wont they see the sparkler bomb lol!!!  anyways they do have infrared guns that can see through walls and other object.  i am sure they will be using all the tools they have to fight us.