Tips To Survive: What Will You Do When The Crap Hits The Fan?

[ramallamamama]

link us to something, that huge pic is stretching my screen.

My bad.

[HYDROGENPAL]

 you really should know this, here is a couple of videos on project blue beam
and below that is a detailed account of NASA's plan.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1195360/project_bluebeam_a_holographic_rapture_and_the_prophet_hologram/

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/4404/PROJECT_BLUE_BEAM/

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9058335367218705506&ei=iKakSJ3hIY2E4gK37dTDAw&q=project+blue+beam+pictures&vt=lf


http://educate-yourself.org/cn/projectbluebeam25jul05.shtml

[DireWolf]

 The info is sound, the toys, necessary to protect us, but none of this will be of any use unless we are mentally and psychologically tough enough to put them into play. This means the understanding that no one lives forever and in some respect how you meet your demise can be as important as how you lived, in some case maybe of more importance. You cannot underestimate the importance of being mentally and psychologically prepared for the horrors that will be unleashed upon us.

To those of you who may dismiss this idea, ask a battle hardened Vet if they will talk about it , or an a more recent note check out the stats on the men and women returning from Iraq or Pakistan and see where many of the are mentally. Sad but true.

[ramallamamama]

ram My whole family lived in oahu tell i was 18 lived in maui during the summer.
I know as a fact that those islands are some of the best deep earth secret military bases in the country.
have you been to diamand head. "proof"
We all moved from there in 1996 as my family was one of the first white families in hawaii as missionaries.
We have been watching end time info for all our lives.
You have some of the most advanced  Surveillance in the world right there looking at you.

You have no place to run for real. thast why we left.

I lived on Oahu for 35 years HP. As of Feb. of this year the traffic, cops and sheople had become untenable. Especially the cops, an army of State revenue-ers.

I have family here on Maui, that's the main reason I'm here. And to bunker down. Real threats are natural (tsunami, hurricane) and man made. (martial law, bio/chem, fuel/food shipment cutoff) We don't have to worry about snow, no worries of freezing to death. I'm confident I can get through the immediate aftermath of a major occurrence, (short of a meteor strike in my backyard or 2000 foot tsunami) it's this slow collapse that has me concerned...

[ramallamamama]

small islands have always made me paranoid/claustrophobic.

GEOGRAPHY    Maui County includes the islands of Maui (the Valley Isle, 727.3 square miles with 120 miles of coastline), Molokai (the Friendly Isle, 260 square miles), Lanai (the Most Enticing Isle, formerly known as the Pineapple Isle, 140.6 square miles) and Kahoolawe (the uninhabited Forbidden Isle, 44.6 square miles, formerly used as a bombing practice range by the U.S. Navy and Air Force, it is now being restored and revegetated).

Maui is the most 'California' of all islands. With all that is bad about California implied. I may still move to the Big Island, Kauai would be a good alternative too. We'll see how things play out...

[rubbertramp]

http://jj.am/gallery/d/37862-1/Peacekeeper-1280x1024.jpg
man it pisses me off when evil things are so fascinating and beautiful.

[Monkeypox]

In Houston they have perfect choke points that I’ve seen.
Here in Austin where i live they built roads and have been driven for many years. just recently these roads that we already paid for have been transformed into toll roads. Not only did they make them toll roads but they sold them to foreign interests.
So the performed to actions here not only did they build perfect choke points with the toll booths for a quick control of the city but also make us pay for it. .
 

In PA they're talking about turning I-80 into a toll road and selling the rights to it and the Turnpike to a Spanish company, I believe.

[rubbertramp]

In PA they're talking about turning I-80 into a toll road and selling the rights to it and the Turnpike to a Spanish company, I believe.

i was raised in philly, may be part of the reason why i don't go within a 200 mile radius of babylon. [urban areas]. this was back in the 70's and there was contingency plans then. i was around when they firebombed the neighborhood where MOVE had thier stronghold. they locked down half that damn city in an hour.

[rubbertramp]

before this drops into oblivion, one more rant. there are good folks everywhere, some places are friendly, some are not. the friendly places makes the quest easier. the unhappy areas means all the good folks hide to a point. if your sitting in some crack infested, tweeker prone area, my suggestion is get out. you may be the only good person around. x-cept grandma next door, who no one knows. any thing over this scenario raises the chance of having good folks all around. i used to run with the rainbows a bit. there are some awesome, like minded and very informed brothers and sisters. we are the ones who always supply the drainbows. my last national was paonia, col many years ago. a girl was raped and they found 2 people dead in a tent. nothing obvious, but strange all the same. then another attempted rape happened. anyhow us volunteer guard, went nuts. nobody could find a thing. me and a bud started tracking the perimeter. i followed strange prints in a certain area multiple times. a few times, me and my bud heard chopper, but news and police already had the air covered. it was strange. i told a handful of people about what i found. the next night, there was a scream, the few i told headed for that spot. my friend was quickest on his trail we followed him up the side of the ridge. wearing black, tough to see. heard a chopper on the ground ahead. f**ker runs straight into it and it takes off. a black helicopter. so black you could hardly see it. small, 2 seater, almost sounded like a cross between a 2 stroke motor and a jet engine. this thing was little. lifts about 20 feet off the ground and with a slight streak of light was gone.
there's some good folks out there, we need to take care of the ones right below us, who struggle to provide, and just not worry, for now, about the rest.

[DireWolf]

 I guess I don't play well with others, or is that this thread is worn out? Or is that my advice hits too close to home? Please understand any advice given by me is time honored and proven in the fires of battle and in the execution of survival scenarios. I have been and will continue be a realist in every aspect of life, therefor my postings will rarely be of a purely social nature. As those who have known me all my life would tell you, if I don't know I will say so no B.S. involved.

As for what I will do when the crap hits the fan? Find allies and cause as much damage as possible to the NWO.

[mr anderson]

I believe 99% of us won't know what to do even if we are 'prepared'.

If it's incremental, perhaps.

I live 1 hour away from Brisbane City and all roads, one way or the other lead to the Pacific Motorway.

Even if you have emergency preparedness kits and all the gear...the keyword is sustainability. You won't last long with survival gear out in the middle of nowhere.

Therein lies the problem. The solution which again is why 99% of us will be unprepared is having a house far, far away from civilisation with storable foods, guns, solar panels etc. 99% of us don't have that.

As a 21yr old Australian without a current job and no lawful right to own a gun...I have no house, storable foods, guns etc. The best suggestion I could come up with is join with those who do have these things, contribute something.

Other than that I have no idea on what to do, it's a different ballgame here. 

[Triadtropz]

I think australias the best place to be..maybe i'll join you down under...avoid the tide...

[mr anderson]

I think australias the best place to be..maybe i'll join you down under...avoid the tide...

I saw on a poster, one of the founding countries of the New World Order = Australia.

Every country has it's places but most people will guess Tasmania. Others further inland.

[Triadtropz]

I think the first target for destruction by the NWO, is the USA and everyones lifestyle...look at the economy, I think it's working..they want US citizens to act more like chinese labor slaves..then the elite could reach their goals ..total control...

[HYDROGENPAL]

NOw back to the Issue at hand :
Solar cooking look it up it’s a card board box and tin foil and some bread mix and water.

Stick tin foil in distilled water add powder draino and you have hydrogen gas. use it to make stuff.

Purifying water with paper towels or shirt and rocks look it.

Natural berries and cactus you can eat.
 

[netizen_x]

I'm gonna re-cycle my crap and ask visitors to contribute to the nutrition in my garden. Plants will recycle the crap into fruits, vegetables, starches and, most importantly, alcohol and ... everything I need.

[HYDROGENPAL]

I have our fanily doing a massive yard sale this weekend we are selling everything befor hand in preperations for the big crash and panic

[HYDROGENPAL]

Maui is the most 'California' of all islands. With all that is bad about California implied. I may still move to the Big Island, Kauai would be a good alternative too. We'll see how things play out...

yea  Kauai would be a great place very little populati and lots of pineapples to eat

You could make it there what about that lil island you can see from moui?

[ramallamamama]

yea  Kauai would be a great place very little populati and lots of pineapples to eat

You could make it there what about that lil island you can see from moui?

There's no water and little cover. The deep rain forest on Maui, Kauai or the Big Island would be best...

[HYDROGENPAL]

makes me wana go back home I was happy there.
I miss the waves texas has no surf 

I am considering costa rica

[slimshady]

WOW,. All I can say is I wish I was on the in. I am part CHEROKEE, I really need something like that. I am stuck up here in Washington state and don't have the funds to do anything but pay rent and eat. Good for you .

[rubbertramp]

WOW,. All I can say is I wish I was on the in. I am part CHEROKEE, I really need something like that. I am stuck up here in Washington state and don't have the funds to do anything but pay rent and eat. Good for you .

i continued this here if interested.
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=56747.0

if your seriously interested i can keep you up to date on developments.

[ConcordeWarrior]

When the big war breaks out in Israel/Georgia/Iran (thanks to the US Neocons) it is us who live in central Europe who will be hit the hardest way before those of you who are living in the US, especially if nuclear warheads are used. 

You people will be ways away from the scene while we will be at a relatively short distance from the theater of operations. It only takes to look at a world map to figure this out.

[HYDROGENPAL]

survival in the underground
http://www.alpinesurvival.com/nuclear_bomb_shelters.html

more fall out sheltes
http://ballew.org/homeland/fallout.html

nordic shelters
http://www.nordicshelter.no/eng/defense/defense.htm

steel shelters
http://www.hardenedstructures.com/barton.asp

the how to of living in underground shelters
http://www.sew-lexicon.com/Civil%20Defense%20Manual/SM3-11_index.htm

water2 off these and two 5 gallon buckets work fine with a spout of some kind
http://www.berkeywater-cart.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BB9%2D2

here is a book on evasion in thewilderness
http://www.uaff.us/dEludingPursuitinRemoteAreas.pdf

here is how to build an oven out of tin foil and a box. to make hot food.
http://www.solarcooking.org/plans/default.htm

solar hot water
http://www.instructables.com/id/The-cheapest-solar-boiler/

[mapko]

Taking a rifle and going north into the wilderness. I'll try to survive naturally. I'll have some stuff. Seeds, tools, food supply/water filters. When they find me, I'll die fighting.

  kewl!

[rubbertramp]

are you ready to rock and roll? what kind of situation are you in. for me the scary part is friends and family who think being prepared is a few x-tra cans of soup, and some x-tra frozen veggies in the fridge.

[otero1]

I need to get food. Other than that I'm set weapon wise.

[rubbertramp]

I need to get food. Other than that I'm set weapon wise.

how about your loved ones? are you taking them into consideration?

[Kregener]

We have had a bug-out plan in place since about 1992.

If we stay in Phoenix, we will eventually die with the rest of the unprepared.

[ConcordeWarrior]

How do you think we will be able to survive in case there is a thermonuclear attack?
There are not even any fallout shelters where I live.
The clouds with the particles will get us all fried to the bones.

Remember Nagasaki, Hiroshima? The WMD they have now are so much more powerful.

[rubbertramp]

We have had a bug-out plan in place since about 1992.

If we stay in Phoenix, we will eventually die with the rest of the unprepared.

it's people like you that worry me. that bug out plan or evacuation, puts you all in my woods. i may be sokmewhere on the rez, in the canyons or lost in the kaibab. a few million of you guys may hurt our plans.

[GoodBush]

it's people like you that worry me. that bug out plan or evacuation, puts you all in my woods. i may be sokmewhere on the rez, in the canyons or lost in the kaibab. a few million of you guys may hurt our plans.

When people get desperate, hungry and dellusional, they are gonna be banging on your door. Good luck out there in the woods.

[national732]

How do you think we will be able to survive in case there is a thermonuclear attack?
There are not even any fallout shelters where I live.
The clouds with the particles will get us all fried to the bones.

Remember Nagasaki, Hiroshima? The WMD they have now are so much more powerful.

    If you arent killed in the initial explosion, you will need to find an underground space to use as an improvised fallout shelter.
Active mines, buildings with deep basements, and former fallout shelters are good choices, but you better plan to bring all the
supplies you'll need with you, and have a way to defend them.  Dying slowly from radiation poisoning is not an option for me.

[rubbertramp]

    If you arent killed in the initial explosion, you will need to find an underground space to use as an improvised fallout shelter.
Active mines, buildings with deep basements, and former fallout shelters are good choices, but you better plan to bring all the
supplies you'll need with you, and have a way to defend them.  Dying slowly from radiation poisoning is not an option for me.

nor i, but ther's many options. in my situation i'm more concerned with being taken out by a lazer mounted on an unmanned drone at 5000 feet. who knows what will go down.

[Kregener]

RT,

Then you worry WAY too much.

We have 11 acres with a house, wind and solar to battery 400w inverter, wood burning stoves and a well with water shed.

Get over yourself...

[rubbertramp]

RT,

Then you worry WAY too much.

We have 11 acres with a house, wind and solar to battery 400w inverter, wood burning stoves and a well with water shed.

Get over yourself...

so considering our options is not important. a few are worried about a nuke, i'm just saying there's other things.
sounds like a great set up. are you off the grid, or prepared with a back up?
another concern for me, is my plan of living off the land to a point. i could walk out in the desert with a knife and jug of water. i'm very familiar with the flora and fauna of the southwest. but if everythings dead or toxic from chemtrails. i'm screwed. will need the caches, and will go through them much faster.

[Monkeypox]

If there's a nuclear war the lucky ones will die instantly.

[SethInBrooklyn]

if you're talking about nuclear war? then me living in brooklyn... i'm gonna try to catch the bomb. there's no where for me to run off too. maybe i'll find the nearest playground and bury my head in the sandbox. hahaha

good luck fighting off the legions of irradiated, cannibal-zombies

[Kregener]

RT,

I would submit that the people who are 'aware' enough to have a bug out plan, are the least likely people to come into your area looking to 'take' and 'reave', but are MUCH more likely to have at least SOME resources (guns & ammo, tools, foodstuffs, etc.) and would want to work in partnership with folks who already inhabit the area in question. A matter of simple survival.

In an area such as we are speaking of, takers would soon realize a 30 caliber ventilation and subsequent rotting.

That is IF the area in question is at least 3 hours drive from ANY large city, and 20 minutes drive outside any small town.

If you are 45 minutes outside of Los Angeles or Phoenix, right off a major arterial highway, you would still be in bad ju-ju.

[rubbertramp]

if you're talking about nuclear war? then me living in brooklyn... i'm gonna try to catch the bomb. there's no where for me to run off too. maybe i'll find the nearest playground and bury my head in the sandbox. hahaha

good luck fighting off the legions of irradiated, cannibal-zombies

a buddy of mine is living in harlem. he's got a stocked speed boat in a garage. he figures when the time comes he'll go the other way. everyone else will be on concrete, using federal roads etc......he's gunna' dump the boat in the river or atlantic and head up the coast.