Tips To Survive: What Will You Do When The Crap Hits The Fan?

[an emcee]

WOAH WOAH, come on IS THIS REALLY GONNA HAPPEN? HOW probable IS WAR BY PERCENT?? I listened to the show for a year now. ARE WE REALLY DOOMED???

[ninja1]

i THINK SOMETHING BAD WILL HAPPEN AS SOON AS THIS FALL

[Truth Warrior]

Fight the demons trying to kill you, otherwise you'll be dead!! This is elementary!!

[wakeup]

I read once where it isn't going to be about what's in your bunker, but what's in your heart.
sounds naive and sappy?  I don't know.
I just wasn't happy planning my hidden place in the woods. I coulda gone there, easy.  It's nice to know it's there, but I feel better back in the city.  I'm gonna take a street medic training class to learn how to wash pepper spray out of people's eyes and bandage broken heads.  I feel that's a better way for me to prepare. Also there's this program in Portland called Yellow Brick Road where you go out once a week (with a buddy) and walk the streets and outreach to homeless youth, carry a pack with some supplies to give out, keep an eye out especially for young women in bad situations, have resource ideas if they need that.  Anyway, I like the idea of connecting with street kids at this time for lots of reasons.  They are amazing, tough, smart and nothing much fazes them.  Well, not all of them.  Some are really stupid and methed out.  Those I give a wide berth to.  But there's a tough army out there with good hearts who can't spend the sort of hours we spend researching this stuff, but they know it's all wrong in their hearts and they aren't afraid of much.

[life0repeats]

i still think its "if the shit hits the fan".  faith. 

[Cruise4]

I've been looking at nightvision equipment. The Gen1's look the right price range but upon closer examination appear fairly useless. It seems Gen2 is this minimum spec for any earnest buy in this department and the range is around £1200, which makes it a serious investment for me. But it's such a potential advantage I see it as an essential purchase. That's a monocle btw. (which is what I want to keep night vision in one eye).

Then there's the Infra Red illuminator thing. I gather if you use one of these you will light up like a christmas tree to other nightvision user's. And are all purchases now RFID chipped? How can you get them out of electronic equipment like this?

Is thermal imaging equipment feasible at all?

And can anyone suggest a method to secure your physical location against stealth approach at a reasonable cost (like £40 for a movement sensor as oppose to £140)?

And any cheap units available for bug detecting etc?

Looking for experienced input before I plunge into a purchase, thanks.

[netizen_x]

You're all looking into the future




but the shit's hit the fan already.



What you gonna do about it?



Check this place out: http://weblife.org/

[esquared]

I am staying at home , it is a good place to die .

[Redbird]

If we survive the next few years, this Ed Dames, I believe is his name said go to some high place like way up in Canada and UK where these CROP CIRCLES have appeared.  He says these are safe areas, but good luck even with those.   Why does the elite want to kill us when we are going to be killed anyway by the shift?

[MountainResistance]

Anyone know what happened  to the nwo.info site?

[esquared]

If we survive the next few years, this Ed Dames, I believe is his name said go to some high place like way up in Canada and UK where these CROP CIRCLES have appeared.  He says these are safe areas, but good luck even with those.   Why does the elite want to kill us when we are going to be killed anyway by the shift?

I think they want to be sure none of us survive . You are talking about the planet X stuff right ?

[esquared]

okay us chicago people how about we move to oregon

I really can't understand why anyone would tolerate the crap that goes on in Illinois and California . Just move to a good state like AZ and help us keep the scum out of office .

[esquared]

The what are yous till doing here? Pack up go to Thailand.
If i was you i woulnt worry we still have 2-5 years before total chaos.

If all the stuff I know is really true then it is a max of 4 years but more than likely much less . Every thing is in place for now . All the underground bases that have been built are built for what purpose ? What do they need to go underground to hide from ?

[Dustbunny]

I'm building myself a bunker. Does anyone have a better link for how to build it than this? I'm thinking of getting that ecola blue water maker. What do you suggest for food?

http://members.aol.com/rafleet/fallout.htm

[shad0wynd]

you have to have a generator-
must have (10) 5 gallon gas container to get you to the next gas station
must have a couple of water drums

get you a diesel 250 truck... and get that convertor put into it for alternate choices of fuel

you have to have an rv trailer-

ideally a solar power generator as big as you can afford to build

cash

pocket knife

ham radio perhaps (at least a c.b. radio and police scanner)

antobiotics, of course


information is the only true way to defend yourselves (by offense)
so, i wish every town would get together and hash this whole subject out......




actually i am against violence fighting violence..........
a huge sit down across america for months on end would be nice..........
no one working "in the machine" would slow the  "machine" (it would also show who is on which side)


personally though - i think they will wait until there is a
man-made earthqauke (west), hurrincane (south), terrorist strike (east)
simutaneously happening to call for nation-wide martial law..........

and as far as escaping out into the woods- never to see a grocery store again- i think you have the wrong mental image about what it will be like-- yall will be the first to get caught and raped.  nice and quite round ups- of people way out in the woods......  campfires show up very bright .......... saftey in numbers in front of cameras or voiced on radio waves is a better way to get through this as long as we can.....

I agree about safety in numbers and making a stand where you are. There's not enough "wild" to feed and  support the number of people who will be fleeing there.  When martial law goes down the woods are going to look like Disney World.  They don't even need to look for campfires technology allows body heat detection.  Of course rural areas have wells and more land to plant, but that's going to be about the only advantage left when the masses fleeing from the city are bumping elbows in the woods.

As for the non violence thing, there's no getting around it you're going to have to fight.  You're also going to have to look after and defend all those other people who didn't listen to you and aren't prepared.  Whatever you're stockpiling stock extra.

[Dustbunny]

You wont do shit with money, take gold... Going to the woods is no good. Build a bunker to a secluded place and keep it secret. Make sure the bunker is impossible to see from the surface. You have to build it for yourself, rent some machinery for digging the earth. Make the cement yourself, this will be a slow job and you got only 3 years left... Modify a bike for power generator by yourself or order from here: http://www.econvergence.net/easy.htm
Solar panels are no good, because you have to be hiding. A generator is useless, how do you expect to get gas for it? Ok, it's good for a while until your stocks run out, but remember it's noisy and has exhaust fumes. You have to be hiding. Make booby-traps and warning systems around the bunker (not untill the shit has hit the fan, but make plans for them and buy the equipment). Try to get some friends with you, build a community of bunkers or share one.

[DireWolf]

 First and foremost don`t panic, panic causes you to lose focus on the task at hand, be that what it may.
 
 Know your terrain and figure multiple escape and re-entry routes. Find one or two people whom with you trust your life and can work with to ease the load during tough times. No two or more people have all the same strengths or weaknesses, so capitalize on the strengths therefore limiting the liability of the combined weaknesses the group will surely inherently have.
 
 Choose no more than two firearms with which to begin your training, get familiar with them to the point they become an extension of who you are. A good multi-tool and a quality fixed blade sheath knife will be worth their weight in gold. Remember when they decide to move against us there will be enough weapons not being used, by those no longer breathing ( on both sides ) they will not be hard to acquire.
 
 Learn to harden yourself mentally, war, and it will be a war they declare on us, is not for the weak mentally, for decisions will have to be made and acts preformed that many will be unable to cope with or preform. This will be a good starting point most, for much soul searching needs to be done to properly and objectively to access ones capabilities and weaknesses, thereby allowing one to be of the greatest aid when needed.

[Real Truth]

Ima roll over and play dead

[Filthy Rich]

 
 
 Choose no more than two firearms with which to begin your training, get familiar with them to the point they become an extension of who you are. A good multi-tool and a quality fixed blade sheath knife will be worth their weight in gold. Remember when they decide to move against us there will be enough weapons not being used, by those no longer breathing ( on both sides ) they will not be hard to acquire.
 

It would seem to me that it would be good to learn what kinds of weapons may become available in this conflict, and it would be a good idea to learn how to use them even if you don't  actually own said firearm [or its semi-auto variant]... Obviously [and despite personal tastes or preferences] this would likely entail AR-15/M-16/M4-type rifles for the most part since they are prevalent not only in our military but also among SWAT, police, etc. I would also want to be somewhat familiar with M-14/M-1A type rifles, AK-47s and the myriad variants, Remington and Mossberg shotguns, and semi-auto pistols such as 1911s and Glocks. As posted earlier, focus your training on one or two guns but know a little bit about other possible finds [how to charge it, how to change mags, how to operate the safety - the trigger is self-evident - and the like]

It seems to me that most other guns are modeled after familiar control schemes, such as the M-16 control scheme, so the transition from the older and more familiar weapons to the new style of armament is easier for soldiers [conscripts?]... I concur though, between weapons scavanged from fields, the inevitable black market, and the very likely clandestine manufacturing plants/possible "outside assistance" there will be quite a few weapons around! [Look at most any country the UN has tried to 'disarm' and its black markets] so your best bet is to get something fairly common and learn to use it well instead of getting 20+ guns that never leave the safe.

Ultimately, the battle is just as much a spiritual battle as a physical battle. I would also recommend getting your spiritual armor and armaments in order.

[chris flowers]

This is what the pricks have in store for us!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYnG-tPehbs

[Dustbunny]

This is what the pricks have in store for us!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYnG-tPehbs

Thanks for your post! I was wondering if George Walker Bush is the anti-christ, descendant of Aleister Crowley, how could Obama be the next president... George has to preserve his power, and your post explained a lot for me...

[Pheonix Renewed]

Learn how to bank coals so that you have endless fire as long as you have a hatchett to bring in wood.

[Cywar]

This is what the pricks have in store for us!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYnG-tPehbs

video removed.  You have another link to it?  What was it?

[k-ila]

know how to forage for plants and roots, how to preserve with salt the old way.  I have horses, so if all else fails, they know how to pull a wagon, but can't outrun gunshots , I'm afraid, maybe I'll have to fashion some body armor for them . 
I do have an oilskin riding coat that keeps out the fiercest rain and snow.  Muckboots are very waterproof and breathable.  Gloves for warmth that I use are a metal strand glove lining that conducts body heat inside waterproof lightweight outer gloves.  any outdoor store has these.

[Cruise4]

"rent some machinery for digging the earth"

I suspect the satellites are watching for this kind of thing. If you dig in the open expect them to go straight to your 'hidden' bunker IMO.

[The Flower King]

don't we have some electrical and mechanical engineer type people on this board?  We should form a group and try and produce our own ELF and LF weapons.  See how those bastards like their nerves being fried.

[Dustbunny]

"rent some machinery for digging the earth"

I suspect the satellites are watching for this kind of thing. If you dig in the open expect them to go straight to your 'hidden' bunker IMO.

You gotta dig under a camouflage net http://www.surplusandadventure.com/shopscr1256.html

Btw, if you get surrounded at dark, take of your night-vision goggles, throw out flashbangs, put your goggles back on and kill 'em all...

[JEH]

It is a lot easier to do what you need to do now, than to wait and try to do anything in the middle of a major stampede.
I favor the deserted pacific island route myself. Hide in the jungle.

[DireWolf]

 When martial is declared the first hours will be the most chaotic. This may be the best or worst time to implement your plan(s) depending on where you are (physically) in relation to where they begin their forced relocation program. The key here will be timely information and communications. If at all possible devise a early alert system with those you have chosen to include in your circle of trusted friends. The system you employ should be one of your own making so as to minimize the risk of being compromised. Remember the common methods now used to communicate may very well be used against you or may be shut down, cell phones, text messaging etc.

 Not putting all you eggs in one basket is preferable. If at all possible a system of redundancy is the best of all possibilities. In preparations for martial law having the necessary items stored or hidden in places other than your home may well save your life. Those sent to enslave us will certainly search your dwelling for any weapons or other items they may deem dangerous to them. It may be that you may have escaped initial detection and the initial round up and are now on the run with little or none of what you stored close to home, caches of gear at locations known only to you will be of great use.

 Remember the same books and manuals offered to the public will also be read and studied by our enemies, so make every attempt to be original in all you do to prepare, also you must figure they are monitoring these posts and you may be put on a Blue List, making an early warning system ever so desirable.

[DireWolf]

 Study thy enemy !!
No plan will keep you totally safe and secure, but your chances increase with your knowledge of your enemy. It has been said and rightfully so, that good intelligence / information is the most critical aspect of any conflict.

 Our enemy has weapons far superior to what the majority of us can expect to defend ourselves with and if you do have access to top technology don't tell anyone you don`t trust with your life. We must therefore study the best ways to nullify their weapons if possible. Many will say that we fight a losing battle against such technology but recent history teaches us that isn't always the case. The Afghans defeated the Russians and the Vietcong fought us to a stand still.
 Every defense or offense has a weakness and the more we analyze their capabilities the more weaknesses we will discover.

 There are one-hundred million plus firearm owners here in the States with an average of three firearms that gives us quite an arsenal. If only one percent will stand and fight that will give us an army of formidable status, unstoppable and capable of winning any battle if we stand together.

[DireWolf]

My plans will differ from yours due to our perspective unique lives. No disrespect meant but my plans are not for general public viewing or discussion but you will most likely get a general overview due to my comments here.

 As I have previously said:

 1. Don't panic!!

 2. Know thy enemy.

 These two bits of wisdom (?) will do much to improve your chances of staying alive and free, and are true needs in any conflict you may find yourself in. There is a seemingly endless variety of scenarios which to possibly prepare for and may seem an overwhelming daunting task but if you follow some simple rules it becomes much easier.

 Start with what you already know and that which you are physically capable of accomplishing.
 Access your mental and psychological toughness.

 Run, hide, stay or fight, or any combination of these, you must determine your plan of action (s) and begin to plan accordingly.
 Your financial status will of course have a significant impact on that which you can accomplish.

 Some items will be indispensable in any given situation, some of these ( by no means a complete exhaustive list ) are as follows.

 Firearms- If you are proficient in their operation and care they are at the top of the list of necessities for protection and procurement of food.

 Knives   - More than most any other item a good blade will be in need and prove itself worth its weight in gold over and over again. Multi-tools included.

 First Aid -  Make sure to include those medicines that are person specific such as blood pressure medicine and others that may be impossible to get if things get bad.

                                         More later....

[ren]

  sums it up . mad posts!..I'll show you mine if you show me your's
Don't Stop..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whSYTSXm8wo

[DireWolf]

We left off with First Aid.

 First Aid cont: Taking into your special needs if any, some general items will come in handy and allow you to better complete your tasks at hand. A general antibiotic such as Amoxicillin, ( be sure you pick one that you are not allergic to ) a field surgical kit available at gun shows for $45-50 will allow simple procedures to be performed and keep the simple from turning into the life threatening, be sure to pick up sutures of varying size while you are there. Aspirin, Ibuprofen, and the like will keep you moving by not allowing a debilitating headache or sore muscles to slow you down. An anti-diarrhea medication is a must, nothing will stop you faster an stop you cold in your tracks than the runs. Be sure to include a form of water purification in your med kit.

  General Items Depending on the terrain, weather, and your physical condition you will need to customize ( include / exclude ) these and other provisions accordingly. Remember this is a general list and is by no means a comprehensive, detailed list.

  Fire-  Matches, waterproof and in some type of waterproof floating container, lighter (s), magnesium stick, any of the newer fire strike series type tools, flint and steel, any will work even a improvised magnifying glass will work if all else fails.

    Cordage for tying, stainless wire for snares, stainless cup with handle, 25 ft of clear poly tubing for drinking, 2 -12 x 12 clear plastic sheets, 2 yo-yo style auto fishing reels, hooks, and split-shot. Candles, dual coarseness knife stone, poncho, leather gloves, mini mag lite w/ ex batteries, sunglasses, Ziploc bags, maps and map bag, compass, signal mirror, edible plant food guides, cammo paint, nail clippers, a sewing kit w/ buttons, canteens, folding shovel, watch, tin foil, silver and gold coin the black market will take them if all money is outlawed.

[agitated_psyche]

i probably have the best plan here but i need some help from you guyz:

does anyone know how to make a poison that kills you instantly.(last ditch resort)for example: planet x causes some catastrophe and the world is ending.people are running and yeling all around me. i say to myself,''f dis''.i drink the poison and die......peacefully.

i remember seeing this stuff in movies or something where a ninja commits suicide after failing his mission.

[TimeLady]

i probably have the best plan here but i need some help from you guyz:

does anyone know how to make a poison that kills you instantly.(last ditch resort)for example: planet x causes some catastrophe and the world is ending.people are running and yeling all around me. i say to myself,''f dis''.i drink the poison and die......peacefully.

i remember seeing this stuff in movies or something where a ninja commits suicide after failing his mission.

I used to know. It's called LACE. It's a chromosomal poison that can be derived from LSD.

[adissenter2]

i probably have the best plan here but i need some help from you guyz:

does anyone know how to make a poison that kills you instantly.(last ditch resort)for example: planet x causes some catastrophe and the world is ending.people are running and yeling all around me. i say to myself,''f dis''.i drink the poison and die......peacefully.

i remember seeing this stuff in movies or something where a ninja commits suicide after failing his mission.

lead, follow or get out of the way

suicide falls under the 'get out of the way' category

[70983]

well i'm not in the position to buy any firearms atm, but if i could this would be my battle inventory

RPK- light machine gun with 75 rd drum mags

Saiga 12 gauge with 10 round clips

as for a pistol i am not sure, thinking about a .38 or a .45?  i havent read up on them as much

[HYDROGENPAL]

http://www.knowledgepublications.com/kp_sunshinetodollars_ebook1.htm

here is a book i ordered to make bread with tin foil  in the sun.
when yo run you gotta eat.

[woodsman]

why you wanna commit suicide fool, this whole buisiness here is about staying alive, get food get water get colloidal silver get educated.

[Pheonix Renewed]

Actually, in one respect, I'm with him. I'd rather die myself and rather my family die than become lobotomized zombies in a deathcamp performing labor until we die a miserable, agonizing death.

If it comes down to no way to escape, I'd want a quick, painless death easily at hand, too.