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« Reply #1320 on: October 07, 2010, 08:39:20 AM » |
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Look, if you wait until the SHTF to take action, simply put, you are screwed. You need to have a Bug-Out Plan to start with. You need to have all the necessary supplies to sustain you and your family for whatever plan you make. You need to decide whether you are staying put or getting out. If you stay, how will you defend yourself and where will you get food. If you go, where are you going to and how will you get there? What routes will you take. Surely not the highways because they will be packed. If you take back roads, will the small towns be blocked off forcing you to make detours. There are a thousand different questions and scenarios that need to be planned for and thaught through before a serious event occurs. If you wait until this happens and then take action, well, those of us that have prepped will have already written you off. Oh, don't think family and friends will help you, either. Your friends will turn on you, as will some family members, or they will put you in a far worse situation. One last thing. If you haven't already begun prepping by now, you're chances of making it are pretty slim because the S#!T is about the Hit The Fan.
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« Reply #1321 on: November 07, 2010, 10:18:16 PM » |
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If you really want to survive, then what you need to do is organize NOW in advance of the chaos. Organize your friends, family and neighbors and everyone you can in your community to be ready for it. This means being proactive. Have food stored. Have water filtration ready. But most importantly, organize to work together. Those who think 'bugging out' will save their skins are morons. That is the surest way to a quick death. A united community can literally face down ANY threat, including economic and infrastructure collapse.
We can either stand together, or we can die alone.
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« Reply #1322 on: November 15, 2010, 02:13:04 PM » |
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Good luck with the whole standing together thing. Within two weeks food and water will be scarce and if enough people know you've got what they need, they'll do what ever it takes to get it from you. Moving away from large cities and waiting for the die-off is more sustainable. Bugging-out when the SHTF will allow you time to get where you need to be because people will not be desperate enough to start killing yet.
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« Reply #1324 on: January 14, 2011, 11:37:42 AM » |
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Telling people in the cities to stay put isn't good edvice. People crammed together is what contributed to the plague in the middle ages. You can't grow food on asphalt, not without major labour way beyond what's required in the rural areas. The big problem in the cities is that they have supplies n the shelf for approx 1-2 weeks at most. If there is a transportation collapes, the cities are done in 2 weeks tops. Also if utilities go down, forget water, flouride or not unless you got a well that is self-powered. Lack of water is the biggest problem in the cities.
Unless your town has a river close that's relatively swift current, you'd need to boil or distill it, without power, and then the'res all the others that are trying to get that same water. It's not unheard of of groups damming up a river upstream, basically highjacking the water supply, then what? You better pray God sends ALOT of rain regularly.
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« Reply #1325 on: January 28, 2011, 02:50:45 PM » |
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I have this subject on my mind ALL the time. I live in a big city, but luckily it is on the outskirts of the suburbs. I have a food storage, that is mostly staples, should last about 3 months. That is all I have been able to afford at this point. I stay pretty well informed on the status of things, and wont wait until the last minute to get out of town. We have a place to go in the mountains of Kentucky, there are lakes, and what not there for water. I have maps for all of the backroads in this state,including elevations, and waterways. We have discussed exit strategies until there has been nothing left to say. The best bet, is to leave early. Pay attention, and know the signs and what clues to look for. Even with that, some of us are going to get caught off guard. We have come up with alternatives for exit. My husband bought this house before he met me, or we never would have bought it  We are completely hemmed in by railroad tracks and freeways. You see the movies with the trains being used to transport people, and all of the outbound freeway lanes clogged with cars, you see the other side of the road empty. All of these things will keep you put, if you have no alternative routes. We have discussed bicycles. If you have to leave town on a bike, do it from the empty freeway lane if you have to, but backroads would be better. Also, bikes are quiet. I have not heard anyone discuss using bikes to emergency evac, but it is one of our options. Also...near our home is a water way, it flows all the way to two major river systems. We have discussed evac by canoe, or flat bottom boat. The key to evac the city, is to know the area, and to be prepared. Don't second guess, trust your gut, and move. Have a place to go, not just one, but a couple. I keep 72 hour kits in our cars, just in case all of it goes down when we are not at home. They are impressive hahaha I am quite proud of them. My family thinks I am crazy, and they wonder what I am doing all of this for. This week when we get together, I will ask them what they think of all that hoopla in Egypt. Ask them if they think anyone there was prepared for all of that. This stuff is scary. I'm glad that I feel ready...just in case. |
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« Reply #1326 on: February 04, 2011, 08:57:23 AM » |
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what is the best site to get a gun?
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« Reply #1327 on: February 09, 2011, 12:55:10 PM » |
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what is the best site to get a gun?
Before you go purchase any weapon, you need to determine it's purpose. Is it strictly home defense in a house or home defense for your home and land. Do you want a pistol, rifle or shotgun? If it's a pistol, what kind of pistol....revolver or semi-auto. A rifle, is it a semi-auto .223 or 7.62. Is it a bolt action? 12ga shotgun or 20g? There's a ton of questions to ask. If you've never fired a weapon before or not sure about what you'll need. Take a trip to your local gun range and rent a weapon and fire it there. Talk to the people there about your purpose and take their suggestions. Once you've got that figured out then start looking for good places to purchase a weapon. I've done a lot or purchases at places like Academy Sports and my local gun shops. You can also go to cheaperthandirt.com to purchase weapons and anything else you'd need. In dealer with businesses online, you'll need to have the weapons delivered to authorized FFL dealer. Cheaper Than Dirt can provide you with this info and make your purchase fairly painless. |
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« Reply #1328 on: February 09, 2011, 01:16:37 PM » |
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Before you go purchase any weapon, you need to determine it's purpose. Is it strictly home defense in a house or home defense for your home and land. Do you want a pistol, rifle or shotgun? If it's a pistol, what kind of pistol....revolver or semi-auto. A rifle, is it a semi-auto .223 or 7.62. Is it a bolt action? 12ga shotgun or 20g? There's a ton of questions to ask. If you've never fired a weapon before or not sure about what you'll need. Take a trip to your local gun range and rent a weapon and fire it there. Talk to the people there about your purpose and take their suggestions. Once you've got that figured out then start looking for good places to purchase a weapon. I've done a lot or purchases at places like Academy Sports and my local gun shops. You can also go to cheaperthandirt.com to purchase weapons and anything else you'd need. In dealer with businesses online, you'll need to have the weapons delivered to authorized FFL dealer. Cheaper Than Dirt can provide you with this info and make your purchase fairly painless.
Excellent info. Another good place is gunbroker.com, especially if you're looking for something not-so-common or used. As far as preparedness goes, you can't go wrong with one of each... a good shotgun (go tactical if you want options), a semi-auto rifle (AK-47 variants are the most reliable and require the least maintenance), and both a semi-auto pistol and a revolver. Heck, a small collection of pistols may not be a bad idea, either, since there are different uses for different types... Glocks are ultra-reliable, but the 1911 platform (for those that like it) offers the most personalization, etc. Having a revolver or two is a good idea because they are less prone to failure. Remember, in the worst-case scenario, you'd be bugging out with only your rifle weapon system and one or two handguns (in addition to other gear/supplies)... make sure these are your primary training tools, and train hard with them. For some in-the-field testing and commentary, check out http://www.youtube.com/nutnfancy ... he plays with and reviews all kinds of survival gear and weapons. |
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« Reply #1329 on: February 13, 2011, 10:14:56 PM » |
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Remember, in the worst-case scenario, you'd be bugging out with only your rifle weapon system and one or two handguns (in addition to other gear/supplies)... make sure these are your primary training tools, and train hard with them.
Actually, in the worst-case (and most likely) scenario, you are bugging out with nothing more than what's in your pockets, and home might be 10 miles of impassable road away. Your most important tools will always be: The ability not to panic Basic physical fitness A deep knowledge of your environment Give me those 3 and a pocket knife, and I'll go up against any fat stupid f**k with an AK or Glock. |
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« Reply #1330 on: February 14, 2011, 12:16:49 AM » |
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Actually, in the worst-case (and most likely) scenario, you are bugging out with nothing more than what's in your pockets, and home might be 10 miles of impassable road away.
Your most important tools will always be:
The ability not to panic
Basic physical fitness
A deep knowledge of your environment
Give me those 3 and a pocket knife, and I'll go up against any fat stupid f**k with an AK or Glock.
I get your point, but the unfortunate reality is that a pocket knife will be of little use for the first 48 hours after SHTF. I have knives and know how to use them, but there will be more ill-prepared morons looting and destroying shit than I feel anyone armed with only a knife could handle. That's not a prediction nor paranoia, just being realistic. After all, being of those who are prepared, it may get to where everyone else wants what we have... using any force they can muster. When I'm not at home, the very least I have on my person is my 1911, three magazines of ExtremeShock EPR, a flashlight and a knife (usually my ColdSteel AK-47). In the car is a first-aid kit supercharged with extra supplies as per YouTube video dude NutNFancy's tutorial on "Level Two" first aid, some rope, flares and a heavy blanket. It's not much, but I doubt anyone carries this much crap around. It is all dual-use as in it will suffice in SHTF, but also could provide aid to others at an accident or other emergency. Just my 2cents, but carry more than a knife. |
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« Reply #1331 on: March 02, 2011, 04:44:30 PM » |
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a good place for essential oils that help with medicinal needs is http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/I have ordered from them and they are good. They also give you info on medical needs for each of their oils. |
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« Reply #1332 on: March 09, 2011, 09:28:40 PM » |
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I get your point, but the unfortunate reality is that a pocket knife will be of little use for the first 48 hours after SHTF. I have knives and know how to use them, but there will be more ill-prepared morons looting and destroying shit than I feel anyone armed with only a knife could handle. That's not a prediction nor paranoia, just being realistic. After all, being of those who are prepared, it may get to where everyone else wants what we have... using any force they can muster.
When I'm not at home, the very least I have on my person is my 1911, three magazines of ExtremeShock EPR, a flashlight and a knife (usually my ColdSteel AK-47). In the car is a first-aid kit supercharged with extra supplies as per YouTube video dude NutNFancy's tutorial on "Level Two" first aid, some rope, flares and a heavy blanket. It's not much, but I doubt anyone carries this much crap around. It is all dual-use as in it will suffice in SHTF, but also could provide aid to others at an accident or other emergency.
Just my 2cents, but carry more than a knife.
I carry my .40 semi-auto and my bug-out bag which contains everything I'll need for a good period of time away from home. If I'm alone I have enough food for 2 weeks, a good Blow-out kit, extra clothes, cooking gear, additional first aid kit, flashlights, batteries, solar charger, water purifier, water and a collapsible 1 gallon container for more water, folding knife and fixed blade, extra ammo, sling-shot with ammo and extra strap and a whole lot more. Remember these 10 C's of survival: 1. Cutting tool, the most difficult thing to reproduce in an outdoor situation. 2. Combustion, you need something that will start a fire no matter if it is wet or dry, 3. Cordage, Para cord, rope straps etc 4. Container, something that you can carry, boil, and purify water in. (guy designed stainless steel bottle.) 5. Cargo, a pack that you can put your items into. 6. Compass, some sort of item that you can determine accurate coordinates for. 7. Cover, you need to have some sort of shelter to protect you from the elements. 8. Candle or light 100% bees wax candle or a flashlight. 9. Combination tool which is actually more of a comfort item SAK, multi tool or a saw. 10. Cloth or bandanna used for filtering water etc. |
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« Reply #1333 on: April 03, 2011, 11:07:40 AM » |
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Currency is what the masses agree on at the time. I remember reading once that a leader of a country(or kingdom), used sticks as currency. he would notch sticks then split them in half, keeping one side of the split stick locked away(to combat counterfeiting)and the other side was used as currency.
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« Reply #1334 on: April 03, 2011, 12:10:28 PM » |
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Stock up on bartering items. Tobacco, ammunition, food--and whatever you think people will need when the money is worthless and gone. Be prepared to barter for what you need. Find stores that handle large pkgs of food and buy in large bulk amounts. Things like dry beans, peas, lentils and garbonzos, dried fruit, dried meat and any other dried foods.
Then find a safe place to store it property. You will need to hide it because when this all hits the fan, millions will be hungry. Do it TODAY! Sit down and write out a plan for you and your family. Think how life will be with no gas in the car and you are unable to buy anything.
Their plan is to make America a 3rd world country as well as cut the population down drastically through starvation.
Oh, for those who own your own home: follow what Dave Ramsey teaches--get your mortgage paid for as soon as possible because they are going to take your home and property if it isn't paid for.
Most of all, trust in God to help you through this. You're going to need His help.
The plan is to be completed with this by 2012. The dollar will be worthless.
When are elections? Late 2012. It probably won't matter who runs for President because martial law will be declared and we will be stuck with Obama.
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« Reply #1335 on: April 03, 2011, 12:36:20 PM » |
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Actually your home Isn't even yours. do you have vested interest in it? Nope. you bought it with FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES. The Fed has vested interest in your home/property, You DO NOT. and remember Agenda 21. http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/I have 110 acres, semi trailers full of supplies and a HUGE cave with a artisan feed waterfall in it. my only dilemma at this point is ventilation for generators, sewage disposal, wiring for solar inside of the cave. so even if they come and take the land. good luck finding us in the cave(there are parts I have yet to explore). |
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« Reply #1336 on: April 24, 2011, 12:16:50 AM » |
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Wonderful tips in here. Thanks to all, I have a question, how long will gas stay okay in those 5 gallon cans? I also heard there is an additive you can mix in to prolong storage life, anyone know about this? Oh and 1 more question, will a water purifier make swimming pool water drinkable? I believe it would ,just wanted confirmation.
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4And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.
5But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him
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« Reply #1338 on: April 24, 2011, 07:19:26 AM » |
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Wonderful tips in here. Thanks to all, I have a question, how long will gas stay okay in those 5 gallon cans? I also heard there is an additive you can mix in to prolong storage life, anyone know about this? Oh and 1 more question, will a water purifier make swimming pool water drinkable? I believe it would ,just wanted confirmation.
Gas starts to loose its octane after about a month, there are fuel stabilizers and octane boosters you can use to prolong the life of the gas for months. You can also start with a higher octane gas for longer storage. Im not sure about what needs to be done to the water but being an open pool with a chance of animals, bugs, algae, etc.. I would probably use chlorine and boil before using |
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« Reply #1339 on: April 25, 2011, 02:51:12 AM » |
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Wonderful tips in here. Thanks to all, I have a question, how long will gas stay okay in those 5 gallon cans? I also heard there is an additive you can mix in to prolong storage life, anyone know about this? Oh and 1 more question, will a water purifier make swimming pool water drinkable? I believe it would ,just wanted confirmation.
You'd have to clartify what "water purifier". Apparently chlorine is removed rather easy. According to a home beer brewing paper, chlorine can be removed by airation, boiling, and activated carbon filtering. http://hbd.org/brewbayou/LIBRARY/Articles/BT_Chlorine%20.pdf |
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« Reply #1340 on: July 13, 2011, 11:44:08 PM » |
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Seemed appropriate to bump this very good and informative thread, especially for newbies. Lots of great suggestions!
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« Reply #1341 on: July 21, 2011, 11:25:13 AM » |
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Actually, in the worst-case (and most likely) scenario, you are bugging out with nothing more than what's in your pockets, and home might be 10 miles of impassable road away.
Your most important tools will always be:
The ability not to panic
Basic physical fitness
A deep knowledge of your environment
Give me those 3 and a pocket knife, and I'll go up against any fat stupid f**k with an AK or Glock.
There was a story I read about the Germans right after WWII, Rabblevox you are 100% correct. http://www.equiery.com/archives/sigridthomas/sigridthomas.htmlI don't think the above is the exact story I read, but the woman who wrote it said that what they could carry is all they had. This has always struck me that the MOST important facet of survival... is mental preparation. |
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« Reply #1342 on: August 02, 2011, 02:05:40 AM » |
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My message will drown in the flood of this topic, but please heed it. Permaculture for food production and water solutions both for graywater and for how you don't run out of water, solar panels for electricity, guns for hunting and protection, crafting tools to make house and such. You should learn to make a form of cement or other material you can use in building. Permaculture building exists too, it works in warm areas at least and we northern folk make our houses from wood.
Setting up a solar panel network is hard, you shouldn't probably try it if you've not had more electrical work knowledge than how to change a lamp. I wouldn't buy them before building a house, and you don't really need them to survive. You should buy
1. A book on permaculture, and another that lists as many edible plants as possible. You can taste unknown plants a bit and see that way if they're edible.
2. Tools for woodworking. Making at least a makeshift house and some utility useful for your food production. A hammer, saw, knife, sharpening rock, lots of nails even though you should learn how to do woodworking without them, axe, chisel and file or few.
3. Gun, gun oil, cleaning set (dunno if they come together), ammo.
If you can do combat well, good for you, but you need to survive too, and there's no better way to survive than keeping your source of survival, nature, in good shape too.
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« Reply #1343 on: August 03, 2011, 06:05:47 AM » |
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Relocation is a key issue here too...bunker building is at a prime high these days.
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« Reply #1344 on: August 05, 2011, 10:00:14 PM » |
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has anyone tried black mica extract? there are videos on you tube and there was a webinar thing last week. the guy that owns raw food world store praises the stuff and says hes storing it. it purifies water, kills germs and detoxifies the body. if anyone uses it let me know. http://www.therawfoodworld.com/ |
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« Reply #1345 on: August 16, 2011, 05:01:07 PM » |
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Hi, I'm not sure whether or not this is the right place to ask this question but I was referred to this thread so here goes. I live in Europe so we're allowed next to nothing for self defense. But with all the tension building up I wanted to have at least something to scare people off when it comes to it. Problem is, people are so programmed and paranoid about guns here that when I asked this question on a English firearms forum I was instantly banned for it because they were convinced what I was really after was a way to convert it or something. As if I would be able to do that. I'm happy when I can fix a tire on my bike  The gun I found is this one: http://www.asmc.de/suche/1911+odg.htmlThis (According to the catalogue) shoots 9mm very loud blanks. You can see them here: http://www.asmc.de/en/Weapons/Weapons/Ammunition/Gas-guns/Blank-Cartridges-9-mm-Stop-Blitz-p.htmlSo I'm thinking of getting this thing, and then I realized I couldn't just walk outside to test it. So I asked a friend who is a member of a gunclub if I could tag along and try it out there. His question was, does it also fire regular 9mm ammo? No I don't know much about guns, hence this question. I have no idea if the blanks they sell are rimfire or centerfire and/or if that makes any difference. Also, my guess is, since it's advertised as a gasgun an actual round will probably blow the thing up. Besides. If it is actually capable of firing live ammo I'm not going to buy it because then I would have a very illegal weapon in my house which is not worth the risk. In that case I'll just get a baseball bat or in life threatening situations my (very expensive) katana. So, to make a short story even shorter: Does anyone have experience with these kind of weapons? Will they fire live rounds or is it safe for me to buy because it's a rimfire that can only fire blanks. Thanks in advance. |
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« Reply #1346 on: August 16, 2011, 08:34:52 PM » |
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Hi, I'm not sure whether or not this is the right place to ask this question but I was referred to this thread so here goes. I live in Europe so we're allowed next to nothing for self defense. But with all the tension building up I wanted to have at least something to scare people off when it comes to it. Problem is, people are so programmed and paranoid about guns here that when I asked this question on a English firearms forum I was instantly banned for it because they were convinced what I was really after was a way to convert it or something. As if I would be able to do that. I'm happy when I can fix a tire on my bike The gun I found is this one: http://www.asmc.de/suche/1911+odg.htmlThis (According to the catalogue) shoots 9mm very loud blanks. You can see them here: http://www.asmc.de/en/Weapons/Weapons/Ammunition/Gas-guns/Blank-Cartridges-9-mm-Stop-Blitz-p.htmlSo I'm thinking of getting this thing, and then I realized I couldn't just walk outside to test it. So I asked a friend who is a member of a gunclub if I could tag along and try it out there. His question was, does it also fire regular 9mm ammo? No I don't know much about guns, hence this question. I have no idea if the blanks they sell are rimfire or centerfire and/or if that makes any difference. Also, my guess is, since it's advertised as a gasgun an actual round will probably blow the thing up. Besides. If it is actually capable of firing live ammo I'm not going to buy it because then I would have a very illegal weapon in my house which is not worth the risk. In that case I'll just get a baseball bat or in life threatening situations my (very expensive) katana. So, to make a short story even shorter: Does anyone have experience with these kind of weapons? Will they fire live rounds or is it safe for me to buy because it's a rimfire that can only fire blanks. Thanks in advance. No, blank guns cannot fire real ammo! And your post shows why we Americans must NEVER give up our arms! I'm really sorry you have no means of self defense, the blank gun might be better than nothing though and might scare off the bad guys. |
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« Reply #1347 on: August 24, 2011, 02:21:43 PM » |
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I recently went to a survival or prepper forum and asked some basic questions and they were downright hostile towards any "survival newbie". They basically said that if you don't have any skills now then you might as well shelter in place.
Do you agree with that?
If not, what are the best resources for a person to get and begin prepping a family?
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« Reply #1348 on: August 24, 2011, 03:23:02 PM » |
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I recently went to a survival or prepper forum and asked some basic questions and they were downright hostile towards any "survival newbie". They basically said that if you don't have any skills now then you might as well shelter in place.
Do you agree with that?
If not, what are the best resources for a person to get and begin prepping a family?
Survival elitists are self-interested asshats unworthy of respect. Although there is room for having a somewhat negative opinion of those unwilling to take steps to prepare (as they may very well be among those against whom we must defend ourselves), the hostility displayed by those on the extreme end of that view is unnecessary. I would think that the best defense is a good offense... such an offense, in this case, being the sharing of information. After all, would you rather 300m people clammering for each others' resources, or 300m people working together to survive despite whatever calamity that the federal and state governments allow to occur. Personally, I'd pick the latter. There are great many books out there to help get you started... some posted here, especially in this section of the forum. Another good resource for the otherwise layman is www.youtube.com/nutnfancy... his philosophy and detailed how-to videos especially. He's not a guru of any kind, just someone that's been there / done that and is willing to share his experience and knowledge for others from which to benefit. |
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« Reply #1349 on: August 24, 2011, 05:33:44 PM » |
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Survival elitists are self-interested asshats unworthy of respect. Although there is room for having a somewhat negative opinion of those unwilling to take steps to prepare (as they may very well be among those against whom we must defend ourselves), the hostility displayed by those on the extreme end of that view is unnecessary. I would think that the best defense is a good offense... such an offense, in this case, being the sharing of information. After all, would you rather 300m people clammering for each others' resources, or 300m people working together to survive despite whatever calamity that the federal and state governments allow to occur. Personally, I'd pick the latter. There are great many books out there to help get you started... some posted here, especially in this section of the forum. Another good resource for the otherwise layman is www.youtube.com/nutnfancy... his philosophy and detailed how-to videos especially. He's not a guru of any kind, just someone that's been there / done that and is willing to share his experience and knowledge for others from which to benefit. LOL! Yes, once in their forum I sensed something like that. I then looked around and they all made fun of every newbie who visited. Anyway, thanks for that link. I've already viewed some of his videos. Good stuff. What do you think about the book "Dare to Prepare"? |
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« Reply #1350 on: August 24, 2011, 05:44:59 PM » |
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LOL! Yes, once in their forum I sensed something like that. I then looked around and they all made fun of every newbie who visited.
Anyway, thanks for that link. I've already viewed some of his videos. Good stuff.
What do you think about the book "Dare to Prepare"?
Haven't read it. I'll have to add it to my list of books to get my hands on... for others, here's a link http://standeyo.com/Our_Books/DTP.html |
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« Reply #1351 on: August 24, 2011, 06:04:20 PM » |
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There's always more learning to do. It never ends!
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« Reply #1352 on: November 10, 2011, 01:26:53 AM » |
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You HAVE TO watch these videos... http://humanurehandbook.com/videos.htmlI'm going to get this book soon... http://humanurehandbook.com/store/THE-HUMANURE-HANDBOOK.htmlI typically ignore the "hippy shit" stuff that my friend sends me, but after playing just one of the videos, I spent the next 2 hours watching the rest... totally worth it. The house I'm building [soon] out on the farm will be outfitted with these (that I build myself) in lieu of a septic system. Freakin' awesomesauce. There's a couple of posts around here that mention the Humanure Loveable Loo, but I figured this would be a great place to give it yet another mention... with links =]. |
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« Reply #1353 on: November 10, 2011, 01:45:53 AM » |
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You HAVE TO watch these videos... http://humanurehandbook.com/videos.htmlI'm going to get this book soon... http://humanurehandbook.com/store/THE-HUMANURE-HANDBOOK.htmlI typically ignore the "hippy shit" stuff that my friend sends me, but after playing just one of the videos, I spent the next 2 hours watching the rest... totally worth it. The house I'm building [soon] out on the farm will be outfitted with these (that I build myself) in lieu of a septic system. Freakin' awesomesauce. There's a couple of posts around here that mention the Humanure Loveable Loo, but I figured this would be a great place to give it yet another mention... with links =]. Thanks, going to view later! |
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« Reply #1354 on: November 10, 2011, 09:37:08 AM » |
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Survival elitists are self-interested asshats unworthy of respect. Although there is room for having a somewhat negative opinion of those unwilling to take steps to prepare (as they may very well be among those against whom we must defend ourselves), the hostility displayed by those on the extreme end of that view is unnecessary. I would think that the best defense is a good offense... such an offense, in this case, being the sharing of information. After all, would you rather 300m people clammering for each others' resources, or 300m people working together to survive despite whatever calamity that the federal and state governments allow to occur. Personally, I'd pick the latter. There are great many books out there to help get you started... some posted here, especially in this section of the forum. Another good resource for the otherwise layman is www.youtube.com/nutnfancy... his philosophy and detailed how-to videos especially. He's not a guru of any kind, just someone that's been there / done that and is willing to share his experience and knowledge for others from which to benefit. ^^ That. When you think 'survival' - what example do we have? Nazi Germany - look to there for the answers on what's needed to survive. You may end up with nothing but the shirt on your back. You may not be able to live in the woods, or might get shot for being on someone else's property. Many of those types are isolationists and elitists - but like MonkeyPuppet said - we may NEED other like minded people to survive. |
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« Reply #1355 on: January 31, 2012, 01:29:16 PM » |
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I have a rough unfinished basement with a rough poured concrete floor in my house in a small town. If I store some of my prepper-food there, how best can I keep it safe? Will canned goods be ok provided they are on shelves off the ground? What about those airtight 6 gallons tubs of grain? If I keep them directly off the floor and take steps to prevent vermin from accessing them, will it be all right? Unfortunately I don't have a good finished basement and this is all I've got. Any advice is appreciated. |
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« Reply #1356 on: January 31, 2012, 04:29:34 PM » |
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I have a rough unfinished basement with a rough poured concrete floor in my house in a small town. If I store some of my prepper-food there, how best can I keep it safe? Will canned goods be ok provided they are on shelves off the ground? What about those airtight 6 gallons tubs of grain? If I keep them directly off the floor and take steps to prevent vermin from accessing them, will it be all right? Unfortunately I don't have a good finished basement and this is all I've got. Any advice is appreciated. my grandmother, and my parents still store all their canned goods in old dirt floor outdoor cellars, the key to storing canned goods is temperature. You don't want your food to freeze or get to warm so anywhere from 40 to 60 is ideal and as long as you can keep moisture from getting into your rice and grains (and mice) you shouldn't have a problem. on a side note, for about $60 one can buy a pressure caner which comes with an instruction booklet on how to can your own fruits, veggies, and meats. Buy fresh stuff in bulk and can it yourself, the food taste better and it is without preservatives (and of course, if you can grow it yourself you know that it is organic) oh yeah, I also recomend paying a little extra for heritage seeds, good luck with the prepping |
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I have a rough unfinished basement with a rough poured concrete floor in my house in a small town. If I store some of my prepper-food there, how best can I keep it safe? Will canned goods be ok provided they are on shelves off the ground? What about those airtight 6 gallons tubs of grain? If I keep them directly off the floor and take steps to prevent vermin from accessing them, will it be all right? Unfortunately I don't have a good finished basement and this is all I've got. Any advice is appreciated. Make a cold room, set up some shelves. |
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« Reply #1358 on: February 29, 2012, 10:10:38 AM » |
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Well folks, if you haven't begun your preps by now I'd say it's just about to be too late. 6 months at the most and it will be full blown TEOTWAWKI.
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« Reply #1359 on: October 17, 2012, 03:37:58 AM » |
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I feature a friend that could show my self how to snare a deer extremely I will not require a weapon. I already had gotten the knives for cleaning venisin.
Even though I have been a bird hunter for several years, I understand that is as an outcome of (don't want which kind of seem to sketch attention to myself) the concern. I can get Turkey with a bow.
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