Thats No Moon, thats a Space Station - David Icke's new book.

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the earth rings like a bell when ever there is a really large earth quake as well. It's a mis interpreted phrase that simply means the energy transfered travlels around the globe, this would be true as well for any large enough object striking the earth.
 

Not my theory...that's just what I read.  I believe that the original "evidence" was that seismographs recorded a ringing after one of the Apollo landers dropped something on the surface after take off.  The theory saw recent activity(not as much as I expected, though) when NASA announced plans to "shoot the Moon" ( ) with a missile.

[unitedstrokesofamerica]

Hey I love these kind of things.  Yes, it sounds crazy but everything sounded crazy at first. Just use flight as an example, It would have been absolutely nuts to be talking about a airplane 200 years ago. I dunno but for me I could not go through like thinking I knew everything about the universe. We do not even know how gravity works for god sakes, so is this probable?...no, but it could be possible.  There are an infinite number of wonders left to discover.

[endof]

What if it explained all of the tsunamis and earth quakes we've been experiencing lately? What if this is one of the biggest lies you've ever been told? You wouldn't want to know about it?

How long can we talk about politics and false flags and government agendas for? OK. We know. The government is evil, the New World Order is a fascist dictatorship etc. etc. We know. You know. Everyone knows. Everyone with at least half a brain knows. Maybe there is much more to truth than just figuring out what a small group of people are doing. Maybe, it's about unlocking ALL of the mysteries of the universe. Or at the least, the mysteries of our moon and earth.

In fact, this week, it's nothing but politics and false flags  . The topics will be Debra Medina, Texas politics, Will Brattons campaign and then Jim Stach is going to talk about false flags, the media demonizing the truth movement, patriot movement and militias and we'll have the phone lines open the entire broadcast too .

Yeah, that stuff is real, we can prove it we can see it.

Lay off the weed k.

[xfahctor]

Not my theory...that's just what I read.  I believe that the original "evidence" was that seismographs recorded a ringing after one of the Apollo landers dropped something on the surface after take off.  The theory saw recent activity(not as much as I expected, though) when NASA announced plans to "shoot the Moon" ( ) with a missile.

lol, yeh I remember they hype over the impact experiment....a lot of stuff I saw made the claim we were "nuking the moon".
 

[37]

   

Spirals...and the single eye.   

[Trypt]

We do not even know how gravity works for god sakes,

Speak for yourself.  While we don't know everything about gravity, and perhaps never will, we know all there is to know about it to calculate with incredible accuracy the orbits of the planets, and their mass, density etc.  Newton's theory explains gravity perfectly for our purposes of space travel or measuring space objects.  Einsteins general theory of relativity tells us the nature of spacetime and how gravity affects it and/or is affected by it (they are one in the same).  Knowing exactly how gravity is transmitted, whether by a graviton particle, or superstrings or whatever, is completely irrelevant to the answers we need about space.  We don't need to know that in order to know with absolute certainty that we're not going to magically float up towards the sky when we exit our house.

[37]

What is the single eye? (I want to see if we both have the same understanding of it).



BTW Carlee, that is a GREAT quote!

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=135294.0

My thread on the cult selling the Zeitgeist of 2012...

[HeismaN]

I wonder if the broadcasting 24/7 moon base, could be some how related to Genesis 11:6(NAS) "Behold, they are one people, and they all have the same language. And this is what they began to do, and now nothing which they purpose to do will be impossible for them." thus, a moonbase to keep us seperated??

[xfahctor]

I wonder if the broadcasting 24/7 moon base, could be some how related to Genesis 11:6(NAS) "Behold, they are one people, and they all have the same language. And this is what they began to do, and now nothing which they purpose to do will be impossible for them." thus, a moonbase to keep us seperated??

...uh...what moon base?

[2010]

...uh...what moon base?

Haven't you heard? The moon IS a space base, run by aliens, beaming a holographic real life Matrix movie into our heads.


edit: me just typing that triggered a memory of a dream I had a year or so ago. (I try to write my dreams down to remember them)
It was about me being taken by aliens to a base in the moon and then I was working for/with them. They seemed nice but I knew they were really something evil.

Great now I'm scared and it's 2am...

[Jackson Holly]

I always enjoy DI's books, too ... this business of 'controllers' on a hollow Moon
sounds nutty as a fruitcake ... LOL! However ... I am not at all sure that there
are not hollow or nearly hollow planets/objects out there. The notion does not sound
that crazy to me. Here are a couple of posts I made to another thread on this
subject ... the thread is only a couple pages, take a look:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=31546.msg129598#msg129598


http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=31546.msg129617#msg129617

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[xfahctor]

Haven't you heard? The moon IS a space base, run by aliens, beaming a holographic real life Matrix movie into our heads.

Dang... I would have hoped the aliens would have at least had the decency to hollogram me in to a tropical paradise with beaches and an endless supply of jack daniels....damn inconsiderate aliens.

[Viper]

We must negociate a hologram upgrade with the moon men immediately!

[xfahctor]

We must negociate a hologram upgrade with the moon men immediately!

probably no negotiating with aliens...you know how those stubborn aliens can be. If they had any decency they wouldn't be waking poor folks up in the middle of the night just to probe them in places that just shouldn't be probed...

[Viper]

Ground Control to Major Tom...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf71UM8mJec&hd=1

[chrisfromchi]

It does sound nutty, the first show where he breaksdown why he thinks this or whatever presentation he does will be darn interesting. It will probably be coast2coast and just stick to the satanic kid stuff for alex's show.

Its not a new theory at all, jordan talked about this as well days ago on a show as well. If one assumes the history of us is false and we are much older or have reseted ourselves into cycles the idea that there is a moon base or lost space facilities isn't all that unbeleivable, tho it goes into the bluebeam areas of research. The beam into the minds-matrix thing has to come from the effect the moon has on human biosystems as is shown from full moon stuff and such.

i'm glad i posted it rather than one of the resident trolls, you guys missed one didn't ya?

[unitedstrokesofamerica]

Speak for yourself.  While we don't know everything about gravity, and perhaps never will, we know all there is to know about it to calculate with incredible accuracy the orbits of the planets, and their mass, density etc.  Newton's theory explains gravity perfectly for our purposes of space travel or measuring space objects.  Einsteins general theory of relativity tells us the nature of spacetime and how gravity affects it and/or is affected by it (they are one in the same).  Knowing exactly how gravity is transmitted, whether by a graviton particle, or superstrings or whatever, is completely irrelevant to the answers we need about space.  We don't need to know that in order to know with absolute certainty that we're not going to magically float up towards the sky when we exit our house.

I think you missed the point I was trying to convey.

[37]

We must negociate a hologram upgrade with the moon men immediately!

They won't be interested...they feed on our negative energy.  That's why the hologram sucks.  

(Just Guessing)

[xfahctor]

i'm glad i posted it rather than one of the resident trolls, you guys missed one didn't ya?

yeh, I suppose your right there....it's just less heart breaking when it comes from a troll though.

[Jackson Holly]

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/luna/esp_luna_16.htm


STRANGE MOON FACTS
by Ronald Regehr

EXCERPTS:

1. Moon’s Age: The moon is far older than previously expected. Maybe even older than the Earth or the Sun. The oldest age for the Earth is estimated to be 4.6 billion years old; moon rocks were dated at 5.3 billion years old, and the dust upon which they were resting was at least another billion years older.

5. Magnetic Rocks: Moon rocks were magnetized. This is odd because there is no magnetic field on the moon itself. This could not have originated from a "close call" with Earth—such an encounter would have ripped the moon apart.

6. No Volcanoes: Some of the moon’s craters originated internally, yet there is no indication that the moon was ever hot enough to produce volcanic eruptions.

9. Hollow Moon: The moon’s mean density is 3.34 gm/cm3 (3.34 times an equal volume of water) whereas the Earth’s is 5.5. What does this mean? In 1962, NASA scientist Dr. Gordon MacDonald stated,

    "If the astronomical data are reduced, it is found that the data require that the interior of the moon is more like a hollow than a homogeneous sphere."

Nobel chemist Dr. Harold Urey suggested the moon’s reduced density is because of large areas inside the moon where is "simply a cavity."

MIT’s Dr. Sean C. Solomon wrote,

    "the Lunar Orbiter experiments vastly improved our knowledge of the moon’s gravitational field... indicating the frightening possibility that the moon might be hollow."

In Carl Sagan’s treatise, Intelligent Life in the Universe, the famous astronomer stated, "A natural satellite cannot be a hollow object."

10. Moon Echoes: On November 20, 1969, the Apollo 12 crew jettisoned the lunar module ascent stage causing it to crash onto the moon. The LM’s impact (about 40 miles from the Apollo 12 landing site) created an artificial moonquake with startling characteristics—the moon reverberated like a bell for more than an hour.

This phenomenon was repeated with Apollo 13 (intentionally commanding the third stage to impact the moon), with even more startling results. Seismic instruments recorded that the reverberations lasted for three hours and twenty minutes and traveled to a depth of twenty-five miles, leading to the conclusion that the moon has an unusually light—or even no—core.

13. Weird Orbit: Our moon is the only moon in the solar system that has a stationary, near-perfect circular orbit. Stranger still, the moon’s center of mass is about 6000 feet closer to the Earth than its geometric center (which should cause wobbling), but the moon’s bulge is on the far side of the moon, away from the Earth. "Something" had to put the moon in orbit with its precise altitude, course, and speed.

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[Viper]

^^13 "Something" had to put the moon in orbit with its precise altitude, course, and speed.

Ya, God done it.

[chrisfromchi]

yeh, I suppose your right there....it's just less heart breaking when it comes from a troll though.

the troll would have phrased it much different and more attacking of alex and the movement through association.

[N.E.P.]

Alien moon?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzJAi1gCQig

[chrisfromchi]

Alien moon?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzJAi1gCQig

exactly the clip i couldn't find eariler

[Xill]

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/luna/esp_luna_16.htm


STRANGE MOON FACTS
by Ronald Regehr

EXCERPTS:

1. Moon’s Age: The moon is far older than previously expected. Maybe even older than the Earth or the Sun. The oldest age for the Earth is estimated to be 4.6 billion years old; moon rocks were dated at 5.3 billion years old, and the dust upon which they were resting was at least another billion years older.

5. Magnetic Rocks: Moon rocks were magnetized. This is odd because there is no magnetic field on the moon itself. This could not have originated from a "close call" with Earth—such an encounter would have ripped the moon apart.

6. No Volcanoes: Some of the moon’s craters originated internally, yet there is no indication that the moon was ever hot enough to produce volcanic eruptions.

9. Hollow Moon: The moon’s mean density is 3.34 gm/cm3 (3.34 times an equal volume of water) whereas the Earth’s is 5.5. What does this mean? In 1962, NASA scientist Dr. Gordon MacDonald stated,

    "If the astronomical data are reduced, it is found that the data require that the interior of the moon is more like a hollow than a homogeneous sphere."

Nobel chemist Dr. Harold Urey suggested the moon’s reduced density is because of large areas inside the moon where is "simply a cavity."

MIT’s Dr. Sean C. Solomon wrote,

    "the Lunar Orbiter experiments vastly improved our knowledge of the moon’s gravitational field... indicating the frightening possibility that the moon might be hollow."

In Carl Sagan’s treatise, Intelligent Life in the Universe, the famous astronomer stated, "A natural satellite cannot be a hollow object."

10. Moon Echoes: On November 20, 1969, the Apollo 12 crew jettisoned the lunar module ascent stage causing it to crash onto the moon. The LM’s impact (about 40 miles from the Apollo 12 landing site) created an artificial moonquake with startling characteristics—the moon reverberated like a bell for more than an hour.

This phenomenon was repeated with Apollo 13 (intentionally commanding the third stage to impact the moon), with even more startling results. Seismic instruments recorded that the reverberations lasted for three hours and twenty minutes and traveled to a depth of twenty-five miles, leading to the conclusion that the moon has an unusually light—or even no—core.

13. Weird Orbit: Our moon is the only moon in the solar system that has a stationary, near-perfect circular orbit. Stranger still, the moon’s center of mass is about 6000 feet closer to the Earth than its geometric center (which should cause wobbling), but the moon’s bulge is on the far side of the moon, away from the Earth. "Something" had to put the moon in orbit with its precise altitude, course, and speed.

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WOW, that Ronald Regehr must be breaking IQ scores.

[Trypt]

I think you missed the point I was trying to convey.

It's hard to tell written sarcasm.  On top of that, on a forum such as this, where a lot of people have really wacky ideas and very little understanding of science, I wouldn't be surprised if your statement was based on a belief.  I'm glad I was wrong!

[Jackson Holly]

very little understanding of science,

Just curious ... the stuff I posted IS science ... if you believe NASA, Nobel chemists, Carl Sagan, etc are scientists. My understanding is that the 20th century science about the Moon's density, etc, leads to the almost forgone conclusion that it is near hollow.

If that is wrong ... let's hear it.

[Trypt]

Just curious ... the stuff I posted IS science ... if you believe NASA, Nobel chemists, Carl Sagan, etc are scientists. My understanding is that the 20th century science about the Moon's density, etc, leads to the almost forgone conclusion that it is near hollow.

If that is wrong ... let's hear it.

I love Carl Sagan, he really knew how to write science fiction and real science for the general population.

That being said, there isn't a scientist in existence that claims the moon is hollow, where did you read this?  The moon's density is about 65% Earth or so, just under 3.4KG/M^3, this is very dense, much denser then any comet and on par with most rocky asteroids.  In order for the moon to be hollow and have that mean density it would mean that its crust is made of a very heavy metal, heavier even then lead, and be very thick still.  I do wonder tho where you heard about the moon being hollow, I would like to see whatever evidence there is to support this claim.

NASA has a very specific and detailed view of the moon, and all its layers, with crust, mantle, outer and inner core.  The only debate left is whether the inner core is solid and crystallized or whether it is the same as the outer core and liquid, with no distinction between the two cores, making one large core.

[ThomasPaineUSA]

With the collapse of the climate change agenda at Copenhagen, the and the faltering "War on Terror," it looks like Icke is setting the stage for another psyop, the perceived external threat of an extraterrestrial race.  This would be as rediculous as the carbon dioxide scare and the invisible terrorists, but it is one of the few tricks up the Establishment's sleeve:  a holographic FAKE alien invasion.

Beware of this hoax.

[Jackson Holly]

I love Carl Sagan, he really knew how to write science fiction and real science for the general population.

That being said, there isn't a scientist in existence that claims the moon is hollow, where did you read this?  The moon's density is about 65% Earth or so, just under 3.4KG/M^3, this is very dense, much denser then any comet and on par with most rocky asteroids.  In order for the moon to be hollow and have that mean density it would mean that its crust is made of a very heavy metal, heavier even then lead, and be very thick still.  I do wonder tho where you heard about the moon being hollow, I would like to see whatever evidence there is to support this claim.

NASA has a very specific and detailed view of the moon, and all its layers, with crust, mantle, outer and inner core.  The only debate left is whether the inner core is solid and crystallized or whether it is the same as the outer core and liquid, with no distinction between the two cores, making one large core.

I have several of Sagan's books ... but no fiction ... what science fiction did he write? But I don't actually have quotes from him about the moon's suspected 'hollow' qualaities.

http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/s/carl-sagan/

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The moon's density is about 65% Earth or so, just under 3.4KG/M^3

Well my quote said: The moon’s mean density is 3.34 gm/cm3 (3.34 times an equal volume of water) whereas the Earth’s is 5.5. What does this mean? In 1962, NASA scientist Dr. Gordon MacDonald stated, "If the astronomical data are reduced, it is found that the data require that the interior of the moon is more like a hollow than a homogeneous sphere."

Gordon MacDonald
http://www.springerlink.com/content/l678u0lx88245k58/

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Truth is, I don't much trust anything NASA says ... but sometimes their's is the only
show in town.

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In order for the moon to be hollow and have that mean density it would mean that its crust is made of a very heavy metal, heavier even then lead, and be very thick still.

Here's another quote from my original link:

11. Unusual Metals: The moon’s crust is much harder than presumed. Remember the extreme difficulty the astronauts encountered when they tried to drill into the maria? Surprise! The maria is composed primarily illeminite, a mineral containing large amounts of titanium, the same metal used to fabricate the hulls of deep-diving submarines and the skin of the SR-71 "Blackbird". Uranium 236 and neptunium 237 (elements not found in nature on Earth) were discovered in lunar rocks, as were rustproof iron particles.

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My question to you is: Were you aware of the multiple crashes of objects onto the Moon surface to study the reverberations? Was NASA and the asto~community NOT surprised at what they found?

[citizenx]

I don't think he's disinfo., just a traditional British eccentric/crank.

The other side gets lucky now and then.

[chrisfromchi]

okay i figured it out.

he siding with this movie

Moon rising. 1 of 9 parts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ3wh2cjekE

http://moonrising-themovie.com/home.html

[sc10000]

It all sounds pretty crazy, but..............................what if he's right?

Remember way back before you woke up all the stuff we now know is true sounded loony tunes, well do you?

[citizenx]

So, we can start calling Icke's supporters "Moonies" now, right?

Or, if the Moon is "Luna"...

[nustada]

Has anyone here actually seen this book, a people misquote icke often.

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I understand that. But can the single eye really be the pineal gland?

I thought the pineal gland was referred to as the "third eye".  

- The light of the body is the eye. If therefore thine eye be single, thy body shall be full of light. But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

If thine eye be single?  What does that even mean?  Single versus evil?  That makes little or no sense to me.  At best, he's talking about finding what you look for...negative versus positive attitude.

As a Christian (yourself), don't you find demonizing the single eye goes against the teachings of Jesus Christ?? I believe it is the KEY to unlocking truth. My opinion of course, but I'm nowhere close to being alone in that view. Perhaps it's worth looking into?

I'm not a Christian.  WTF??  I think it is the symbol of a cult that holds secrets from it's fellow man about the truths of the world.  I think they want to kill a large number of us in a sacrifice to their God...whom the one eye represents.(To them...not me.)

I'm not the one demonizing the single eye.  It is being placed with negative messages throughout the media.  

[UK Lyn]

Wow, a lot of further posts since my last when I said 'Hold On' until we read the book...

To those who say, we 'already know the science of the moon'..  I say, no you don't

You only know what NASA tells you.

NASA is NSA/CIA.  And equally trustworthy.

Is there ONE person on this forum, who thinks, that if CIA/NSA-NASA found anything unusual on the moon, that they would tell us?

[iks83]

So, we can start calling Icke's supporters "Moonies" now, right?

Or, if the Moon is "Luna"...

Or Luna-tics... ¬_¬
But since there is less gravity I think Luna-tics are bigger than the ticks on earth.

So when will the book come out? April 1st?

[Jackson Holly]

Continental Drift Theory ... time to reconsider?


A New Model of the Universe:
http://www.nealadams.com/morescience.html

Huge geode search:
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=huge%20geode&aql=&oq=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi



~~~~~> At least see the short videos Press Clips #0 and #3 ... and read
The Case Against Pangea

http://www.nealadams.com/nmu.html

"We further argue that if you were to shrink the sphere of Earth … by letting the oceanic plate re-enter the rifts they erupted from, over time … the continental crust would easily and completely fit back together, and this solution satisfies all questions of tectonics, science, geology, paleontology, theoretical and practical physics, cosmology, and subatomic physics. Pretty simple actually.

Against this is the current Pangea theory which insists … that the continents float willy, nilly about the Earth, spinning, sliding, bumping, and crashing like bumper cars in a carnival. (That’s a common description … which some geologists are currently backing away from… in small numbers.) The Pangea theory says the Earth was assembled 4.5 billion years ago in a “universal instant” from debris … that was collected in our galaxy, to this size, (by a method that is never … I repeat never explained, why this assembly of material mysteriously ended at exactly this time, and didn’t continue to provide more material is a brutally illogical contradiction. Sometime in the previous 9 billion years, this stuff collected. Yet, for the last 4.5 billion years no new stuff collected, according to our 150 year old theory. How can that be? There is no possible explanation for this contradiction. It’s almost silly. It’s certainly naïve, but still it is one hundred and fifty years old."

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This all meshes pretty well with many aspects of the Electric Universe theories:

http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=906

[Trypt]

I have several of Sagan's books ... but no fiction ... what science fiction did he write? But I don't actually have quotes from him about the moon's suspected 'hollow' qualaities.

One of the greatest sci-fi books of all time, CONTACT!  If you haven't read it, do so, it is incredible, and much better then the movie (which was good as well, but quite changed).

Jackson Holly, do you have any physics schooling, whether self or otherwise?  3.4x density of water is very dense, in fact, our moon is the densest moon in the solar system.  Earth is the densest planet, and its only 50% denser then the moon.  Even without understanding geology and physics, this should be enough for you to understand that any talk of a hollow moon is extremely false.  Also, "hardness" has nothing to do with density.  Lead is extremely dense but not hard at all, aluminum is very hard but not dense at all.