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« Reply #160 on: May 30, 2010, 11:36:23 AM »

Ok, now please explain away the moonmen beaming holograms into our heads, he's a kook.

Any race that has the technology to build a 22 billion cubic kilometer space station probably also has the technology to do alot of other shit we can't comprehend.
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« Reply #161 on: May 30, 2010, 11:47:42 AM »

Any race that has the technology to build a 22 billion cubic kilometer space station probably also has the technology to do alot of other shit we can't comprehend.

Fine, the whole thing doesn't bother me any longer, i personally can't see a mass awakening happening anytime soon anyways, especially the folks got their ipads now, i mean who the f**k can afford an ipad anyways?
The nwo ain't just a the top of pyramid, it permeates all the way down in the attitudes of the people wanting to climb the rat ladder.
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« Reply #162 on: May 30, 2010, 12:49:25 PM »

I cannot afford an ipad maxi stash or whatever , though it is no rat race that I run to shoot ladders up which to climb. It is only for humanity , spiritism and lack of material concern for which I pine.
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« Reply #163 on: May 30, 2010, 12:53:31 PM »

Well Icke can do and say whatever he wants. If there are some idiots following without questioning then its their fault. Its so sad that these days there is a group of people that build on each others crap, throwing the ball to each other, confirming their theories. So you have the mayan calendar and Hoagland invents some new stuff to it and joins it with his moon/mars crap, then comes Tsarion and invents new stuff about aliens and ancient civilizations and throws the calendar in, then comes Wilcock along and tells his phantastic stories, then Maxwell with his garbage (yes some of what he says is true but some is total garbage) and somewhere in between is Icke who gets confirmation from all sides... but it doesnt make any of it true.

About Maxwell... in the recent interview together with Icke he again told his story about sitting in a restaurant and suddenly a voice tells him to get up and run away cause he is in danger. I bet the guys fiddling the dials on the audio projector were laughing their butts off. I can picture it.

Technician1: Hey I'vo got an idea *snicker* tell Bob and Jim to go into the restaurant and look totally MIB like.
Technician2: Ok they are in.
Technician1: Ok now watch this *projector on* "Jordan you are in danger! Get up and run out of there! Run! Now!" *projector off* Njahaha!
Technician2: Oh my god hes really jumping up and running out of there!
Technician1: Ok lets make him run around a bit *readjusting projector and activate* "Jordan, run around to the other side of the building, HURRY! They are right behind you!" *projector off* AHAHAHA! Its so hard to not burst out laughing while doing this.
Technician2: Haha totally awesome. Hey move aside I have an idea. Lets see if I can get him to run into traffic. *projector on* "Now run across the street and around the building there! Quick! You are almost out of danger!"
Jordan: But there is alot of traffic!
Technician2: "Don't worry, you will be safe. Now go!!" *projector off*
Technician1: Haha he really is running into the traffic!... Hahaha he actually made it across without getting hit! That lucky bastard!
Technician2: rolling on the floor
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« Reply #164 on: May 30, 2010, 12:56:18 PM »

Any race that has the technology to build a 22 billion cubic kilometer space station probably also has the technology to do alot of other shit we can't comprehend.

The flipside of that thinking is any race that could build something like that, wouldn't need to play mind games and could just overtly enslave or kill us.

Unless we are the cast of a crappy intergalactic reality show, it doesn't make much sense.
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« Reply #165 on: May 30, 2010, 01:10:36 PM »

The flipside of that thinking is any race that could build something like that, wouldn't need to play mind games and could just overtly enslave or kill us.

Unless we are the cast of a crappy intergalactic reality show, it doesn't make much sense.

Also if they are spiritual beings from the dungeon dimensions why do they need a space station in the physical world? And does that mean they highjacked another advanced alien race and got them to build it? This story has so many holes and all based on the fact that the moon rang like a bell. But since we cant simply go up there and drill a hole to actually find out why, we are sitting down here coming up with all kinds of fantastic crappy explanations that fits our agenda. I would rather believe in the nazis on the moon.
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« Reply #166 on: May 30, 2010, 04:03:39 PM »

What this has to do with anything of real practical importance is beyond me. Might as well merge this with Bible Thumbing and call it a day.

There should be a sub forum...

"Shit that won't stop the NWO, and has no practical relevance other than to argue about over the Internet with random strangers"

All I can say is... because we deal in areas that are sometimes murky and we collectively tend to lower our standard of evidence... you get stuff like this flooding in. Maintain the standards people, otherwise we're just making up fairy tales.
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« Reply #167 on: May 30, 2010, 05:41:21 PM »

Any race that has the technology to build a 22 billion cubic kilometer space station probably also has the technology to do alot of other shit we can't comprehend.

Exactly. I rarely rule anything out myself.
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« Reply #168 on: May 30, 2010, 05:46:58 PM »

Fine, the whole thing doesn't bother me any longer, i personally can't see a mass awakening happening anytime soon anyways, especially the folks got their ipads now, i mean who the f**k can afford an ipad anyways?
The nwo ain't just a the top of pyramid, it permeates all the way down in the attitudes of the people wanting to climb the rat ladder.

Maybe that is the point: that people, we, by nature, just don't give a shit. And nor should we. We should be enjoying things like hiking and fishing, hockey and baseball, dancing and making music baby. We were given life on this planet by some awesome force... what more could one ask?
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« Reply #169 on: May 30, 2010, 05:55:59 PM »

Exactly. I rarely rule anything out myself.

I disagree with you on this point. Thats part of the problem of why Icke is so popular, he doesnt rule anything out, keeps his mind so open that he is willing to beleive anything, and his cult of personality follows suit. Dangerous process there. Me, I rule everything out, unless there is evidence to support it. Which is another problem with Icke; most of his theories are unsupported pulp fiction tripe.

Maybe that is the point: that people, we, by nature, just don't give a shit. And nor should we. We should be enjoying things like hiking and fishing, hockey and baseball, dancing and making music baby. We were given life on this planet by some awesome force... what more could one ask?
Now THIS statement I can agree with. But by Icke's followers wrapping their lives up into every little thing Icke dreams up, they miss out on so much of life, and dwell in a dreamy pretend world.  I swear,  I think a lot of his followers simply use his theories as some sort of escapism from the doldrums of their life.
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« Reply #170 on: May 30, 2010, 05:57:39 PM »

@ Freeski

To me Icke is trying to steer the awake folks into another dream state, it's no biggie like i said, like much of the things i research is done in a hobby sense.
come to think about it there is another level of being awake you may not have thought about yet friend ...dunno if i can do the idea justice in this post though ...ok first tell me why we wake others up, is it to inform them so they can look out for themselves or is it for our own security getting others on the same boat ...
Why should you give a shit :

Because of the coming generations given life on this planet by some awesome force, think about the Freeski that will exist in the future and ask yourself how it will be for him if nobody now gives a shit.
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« Reply #171 on: May 30, 2010, 06:04:05 PM »

This is retarded.
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« Reply #172 on: May 30, 2010, 06:06:02 PM »

What is higher love?

Higher love is having love for people you will never know or meet EVER.
Having concerns for the opressed on other side of the world, like the Gazans, and being concerned for future generations.
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« Reply #173 on: May 30, 2010, 06:08:48 PM »

What is higher love?

It's making some kind of effort to avoid the ants on the sidewalk!
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« Reply #174 on: May 30, 2010, 06:10:12 PM »

It's making some kind of effort to avoid the ants on the sidewalk!

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« Reply #175 on: May 30, 2010, 06:12:55 PM »

Indeed.

you too, eh?
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« Reply #176 on: May 30, 2010, 06:15:09 PM »

you too, eh?

Yes just the other day i swiped a bee on the window, luckily it escaped, but afterwards i thought to myself it was a bad thing to do, flies be different, when i lived in Spain i was the great fly destroyer. Smiley
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« Reply #177 on: May 30, 2010, 06:31:52 PM »

Yes just the other day i swiped a bee on the window, luckily it escaped, but afterwards i thought to myself it was a bad thing to do, flies be different, when i lived in Spain i was the great fly destroyer. Smiley

Funny, I play in an old fart garage band with my buddies and it's called The Dead Flies. (Never my idea!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvRfn_i9GY
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« Reply #178 on: May 30, 2010, 06:38:22 PM »

Funny, I play in an old fart garage band with my buddies and it's called The Dead Flies. (Never my idea!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvRfn_i9GY


Enjoyed that, mad bongo drums and catchy chorus. Smiley
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« Reply #179 on: May 30, 2010, 06:38:49 PM »

But by Icke's followers wrapping their lives up into every little thing Icke dreams up, they miss out on so much of life, and dwell in a dreamy pretend world.  I swear,  I think a lot of his followers simply use his theories as some sort of escapism from the doldrums of their life.

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« Reply #180 on: May 30, 2010, 06:45:29 PM »

But did it ever occurr to you that there is giving a crap, then there is giving a crap about all the wrong things? I mean, we cna porove we have murderous, treasonous bastards in government. Things so real and tangible we dont need to make up pretend badguy aliens as culprits. We need to focus on what we can prove, and not what we imagine.

@ Freeski

To me Icke is trying to steer the awake folks into another dream state, it's no biggie like i said, like much of the things i research is done in a hobby sense.
come to think about it there is another level of being awake you may not have thought about yet friend ...dunno if i can do the idea justice in this post though ...ok first tell me why we wake others up, is it to inform them so they can look out for themselves or is it for our own security getting others on the same boat ...
Why should you give a shit :

Because of the coming generations given life on this planet by some awesome force, think about the Freeski that will exist in the future and ask yourself how it will be for him if nobody now gives a shit.

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« Reply #181 on: May 30, 2010, 06:46:01 PM »

Enjoyed that, mad bongo drums and catchy chorus. Smiley

Thanks man!
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« Reply #182 on: May 30, 2010, 07:10:57 PM »

If there was a mind control beam on the moon I'm pretty sure I would have liked American Idol, Obama, or any of a billion other fads.

Then again, if there was a mind control beam on the moon why do we have any marketing fads whatsoever? Why not just make them obey with the beam?

Why? Because there is no beam on the moon and it's not a spaceship.

And if there were alien reptilians running the world they wouldn't have to pretend because their technology would be so advanced we couldn't compete.

David Ike is really milking his fans with this one.
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« Reply #183 on: May 30, 2010, 07:44:06 PM »

Maybe that is the point: that people, we, by nature, just don't give a shit. And nor should we. We should be enjoying things like hiking and fishing, hockey and baseball, dancing and making music baby. We were given life on this planet by some awesome force... what more could one ask?

If I danced , I'd be right there too  Cheesy
Point is I agree.

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Maybe Icke is wanting us to see and to understand that an alien 'takeover' would not be like some Hollywood shoot-em-up ... they would, "defeat us by becoming us".

What ... would they haul millions/billions of their kind over a long distance to inhabit a burned-out shell of a planet? No. They would mess with our DNA, and our minds ... they would surreptitiously infiltrate, manipulate us over time to further their agenda.

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« Reply #185 on: May 30, 2010, 08:12:35 PM »

Even if you don't believe anything that Icke talks about regarding reptilians or moonbeams , to say he is total disinfo is flat out wrong. I'm sure he has woken up many , he is very popular and as I said above , people should draw their own conclusions. Why do you people think the ADL dislikes ICKE? because they too have drawn their own conclusions...
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« Reply #186 on: May 30, 2010, 10:50:09 PM »

People that let their imagination run away with them are usually on drugs. Imagination and FANTASY are one thing PROOF is another matter entirely. I can believe how many people have left the realm of reality and are now just making shit up. Keep an open mind but most of us want hard core proof before we gulliblly fall for these stories. I love sifi like anyone else, But I know the diffrence.
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« Reply #187 on: May 30, 2010, 11:56:34 PM »

Well Icke is always talking about going to South America and being inspired with mind expanding drugs... so what do you expect right?
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« Reply #188 on: May 31, 2010, 12:05:25 AM »

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« Reply #189 on: May 31, 2010, 06:59:22 AM »

Well Icke is always talking about going to South America and being inspired with mind expanding drugs... so what do you expect right?

I think he's talking about a root called 'Ayahuasca'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbW53BTtVes

I wouldn't mind having a go.  Wink

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« Reply #190 on: May 31, 2010, 07:02:40 AM »

Well Icke is always talking about going to South America and being inspired with mind expanding drugs... so what do you expect right?

"Spirituality"

"The way to -- this overblown, overused word, which is covering everything today, called "spirituality," -- the way to it is through yourself. Through a maturing and full recognition of who you are, with all the pluses and minuses, and all the good deeds and bad deeds. It's self-reflection. It's also the ability to empathize with others, so you do not need it explained to you, when you say, "what would I feel if I were in this person's shoes? How would I be?”  It's a getting out of yourself, after looking at yourself.  At those around the world who exist, and those to come, that's the only connection there is. The real connection, and empathy is connection."
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"Self-exploration is not a matter of taking drugs, so that the sea of unconsciousness, all the material in the world, can break out into a waking state, a surrealistic daydream.  Greater things can happen. Much, much greater things can happen, if you follow that which is within yourself, and you know yourself. "Know Thyself" is the whole of the law. Not, “do what thou wilt” is the whole of the law. That's for the elite."
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« Reply #191 on: May 31, 2010, 07:03:15 AM »

Don't drink the ayahuasca cool-aid.
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« Reply #192 on: May 31, 2010, 02:57:31 PM »

Funny, I play in an old fart garage band with my buddies and it's called The Dead Flies. (Never my idea!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvRfn_i9GY


Love it Freeski  Cheesy, bluesy blues rock, I'd be down at the front dancing - which one are you? Just being nosey.

"Maybe that is the point: that people, we, by nature, just don't give a shit. And nor should we. We should be enjoying things like hiking and fishing, hockey and baseball, dancing and making music baby. We were given life on this planet by some awesome force... what more could one ask?"

Yes, we're normal human beings with generous hearts and creativity, you and your band embody it.
Then look at the Elite controllers, whose desire is to destroy people like us and everything wholesome and happy. Rockefeller, Kissinger, the Queen etc; Netanyahu and Begin mouthing their lies today...... their eyes are dead and empty and cold as ice. Human warmth, kindness and good humour are foreign to them, in fact Alien to them.
They're not normal human beings like we are.
Whether they originate way back from an alien reptilian bloodline, I don't know; but they have a coldness, and cold blooded insatiable greed about them, and appetite for cruelty, that is totally alien to natural positive human instinct.

I think that aswell as talking about and researching the things we DO know for sure and can prove....it's also important to try and understand the roots of it all, and the history of why this is all coming about as it is.
Anyway, there is a lot of documentation about the Secret Societies, Mystery Schools etc, going way back; and the rulers of the world today are strangely closely connected family-wise. These bloodlines do go back a long, long way.

To refuse to touch any information that's not here-and-now proven, well, that's your prerogatives; but you can't DIS-prove any of what David Icke talks about. There's masses we don't understand much closer to home than the moon; what about the Nazca lines...Baalbek...to mention a couple.

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« Reply #193 on: May 31, 2010, 04:05:39 PM »

There are many things that can't be proven. It doesn't mean we should believe ANYTHING, without a shred of evidence. Icke mixes in documented information with speculative nonsense, which discredits the truth. It's classic counter-intelligence. The burden of proof is on Icke to prove his claims.

He has many deluded followers that believe everything he says. I'm sure they'll believe his next theory, which will probably be about shape shifting tarantulas that want to destroy humanity. I think he makes it up as he goes along.

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« Reply #194 on: May 31, 2010, 08:57:38 PM »

Love it Freeski  Cheesy, bluesy blues rock, I'd be down at the front dancing - which one are you? Just being nosey.

"Maybe that is the point: that people, we, by nature, just don't give a shit. And nor should we. We should be enjoying things like hiking and fishing, hockey and baseball, dancing and making music baby. We were given life on this planet by some awesome force... what more could one ask?"

Yes, we're normal human beings with generous hearts and creativity, you and your band embody it.
Then look at the Elite controllers, whose desire is to destroy people like us and everything wholesome and happy. Rockefeller, Kissinger, the Queen etc; Netanyahu and Begin mouthing their lies today...... their eyes are dead and empty and cold as ice. Human warmth, kindness and good humour are foreign to them, in fact Alien to them.
They're not normal human beings like we are.
Whether they originate way back from an alien reptilian bloodline, I don't know; but they have a coldness, and cold blooded insatiable greed about them, and appetite for cruelty, that is totally alien to natural positive human instinct.

I think that aswell as talking about and researching the things we DO know for sure and can prove....it's also important to try and understand the roots of it all, and the history of why this is all coming about as it is.
Anyway, there is a lot of documentation about the Secret Societies, Mystery Schools etc, going way back; and the rulers of the world today are strangely closely connected family-wise. These bloodlines do go back a long, long way.

To refuse to touch any information that's not here-and-now proven, well, that's your prerogatives; but you can't DIS-prove any of what David Icke talks about. There's masses we don't understand much closer to home than the moon; what about the Nazca lines...Baalbek...to mention a couple.



Awesome post! And thanks for the props. I'm the one in the orange!
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« Reply #195 on: May 31, 2010, 09:01:23 PM »

There are many things that can't be proven. It doesn't mean we should believe ANYTHING, without a shred of evidence. Icke mixes in documented information with speculative nonsense, which discredits the truth. It's classic counter-intelligence. The burden of proof is on Icke to prove his claims.

He has many deluded followers that believe everything he says. I'm sure they'll believe his next theory, which will probably be about shape shifting tarantulas that want to destroy humanity. I think he makes it up as he goes along.



I work in the advertising field and there's a wonderful thing we do called a brainstorming session. You get three or five creative people together and you give them a mission. No idea is off limits in these sessions because even a ridiculous idea can lead you to something brilliant.
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« Reply #196 on: May 31, 2010, 09:37:56 PM »

I work in the advertising field and there's a wonderful thing we do called a brainstorming session. You get three or five creative people together and you give them a mission. No idea is off limits in these sessions because even a ridiculous idea can lead you to something brilliant.

Or it can simply be mental masturbation that is nothing more than flights of fantasy and escapism. Brainstorming alas is NOT evidence, it is NOT proof. Theories, are not proof, Books written by Icke, are not proof. Tell me, what value is there to postulating about aliens in a hollow moon who may or may not be using mind control ray guns when there are evil people here on earth that are real, tangible, and are committing evil right now, here in the REAL world? Where is the benefit of having an awake person who is prone to flights of fantasy, and alienating people who were previously woken up with far out theories that make them think they've tossed in with a bunch of kooks. Where is the benefit of a talking head that insists on getting the medias attention, and giving the very people we are trying to wake up excuses for not listening to us??? Tactically speaking, it's asinine to hand the enemy all the ammunition they need to denounce us and make us look like fools.

I'm tired of people who believe Icke ruining MY credibility when I try to wake people up. I’ve had former colleagues and military personnel laugh at me when I start talking about things that we almost take for granted as truth here. These are people with whom I shared a great professional rapport with previously, and who now look down their noses at me because they just so happened to hear Icke’s pathetic and ridiculous ramblings first, and unfairly link it directly to the truth movement. But what do you lot care, you get to have your little fantasies, screw everybody else right?


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« Reply #197 on: May 31, 2010, 10:00:31 PM »

Or it can simply be mental masturbation that is nothing more than flights of fantasy and escapism. Brainstorming alas is NOT evidence, it is NOT proof. Theories, are not proof, Books written by Icke, are not proof. Tell me, what value is there to postulating about aliens in a hollow moon who may or may not be using mind control ray guns when there are evil people here on earth that are real, tangible, and are committing evil right now, here in the REAL world? Where is the benefit of having an awake person who is prone to flights of fantasy, and alienating people who were previously woken up with far out theories that make them think they've tossed in with a bunch of kooks. Where is the benefit of a talking head that insists on getting the medias attention, and giving the very people we are trying to wake up excuses for not listening to us??? Tactically speaking, it's asinine to hand the enemy all the ammunition they need to denounce us and make us look like fools.

I'm tired of people who believe Icke ruining MY credibility when I try to wake people up. I’ve had former colleagues and military personnel laugh at me when I start talking about things that we almost take for granted as truth here. These are people with whom I shared a great professional rapport with previously, and who now look down their noses at me because they just so happened to hear Icke’s pathetic and ridiculous ramblings first, and unfairly link it directly to the truth movement. But what do you lot care, you get to have your little fantasies, screw everybody else right?




I hear you, but it is possible that the "evil people here on earth that are real, tangible, and are committing evil right now' are just pawns themselves... in a much  bigger thing, something we don't yet understand.
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« Reply #198 on: May 31, 2010, 10:41:53 PM »

Possibile?  I suppose so in the grand scheme of things. But, that is where 'Occam's razor' comes in.

"The devil made me do it" is unnecessary.

So is, "Here comes the judge." Come to think of it.
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« Reply #199 on: May 31, 2010, 10:42:38 PM »

A lot of people who are into conspiracies are just Sci Fi/X Files fans with no life.

They get this adrenaline rush when thinking they have all this 'secret' knowledge like the Huatree people thinking they are battling the government when they are just doing a dress-up session of military Dungeons and Dragons.

Sadly AJ is trying to mature and present real news and this is not helping. Sure all the big show can get away with this, but can you if you're Alex NWO Jones?

Icke may be a nice guy who is popular--you know like Ms Cleo-- but if you have him on your show, don't expect your credibility to go anywhere.

If you go to Icke's site the people have a very cult-like personality.

All of the news links/NWO are seen as proof to Icke's vision.

Here is a typical post from the first link I clicked on:
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I am still in deep studies of becoming a remote healer. Recently I began with a VRIL Generator. I believe it came into my life because of the monatomic gold. There is a whole list of things it can do one of them is hyper-space teleportation. I am mostly staying with healing, but recently I was doing some travels chosen by the VRIL and I opened my eyes and found my self on a Zeta ship. There were 3 grays on board very close to me. They all turned to me, and one of them said,"Who are you and why are you here?"
I'm like, "Uh I don't know." Another one pointed his finger at me and it glowed. He said,"Oh we cannot control this one."
"You can't control me," I told them, and decided I better leave.

I told the VRIL, "If you are going put me on a space ship, I only want to be on one that is in my Highest Divine Good."
I opened my eyes and found I was on a Pleiadian ship. It was beautiful! All the walls were a light gold color and the air was glowing. The starpeople were glowing too. I looked down and in the center of the ship, there was a HDTV in the shape of a circle. I knew that was where all the technology was.
"Where are you from?", one of them asked. The TV had a picture of the lake I live on. I saw my house and pointed to it. "I live there! Thank you so much for allowing me to visit you. It was nice.", then I left.
I also visited the people that live inside the Earth. I learned humans are not the natives of this planet. Only 30% of people in the U.S. have human DNA, the rest of are what I now called blended people.

It looks like this person left Earth with David Icke a long time ago...  Undecided
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