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« Reply #40 on: February 24, 2010, 08:24:00 PM »

when all this broke I simply said... "A LEADER STANDS BY THEIR CONVICTIONS" ...then the argument ensued.

If you can NOT stand by your convictions no matter the 'pressure', you are NO leader.
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« Reply #41 on: February 24, 2010, 11:05:12 PM »

Thats it I've had it!

Im mailing my Trash to Glenn Beck and sending another box to Medina!!

Has anyone actually mailed their trash to Glen yet? I'm seriously thinking about it!

But if it wasn't for him we never have know Medinas TRUE intentions. How ironic!
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« Reply #42 on: February 25, 2010, 05:30:27 AM »

wasnt the first betrayal when she joined the republican party instead of running on an independent platform? everybody knows the game is fixed. all politicians change their story for the audience they are catering to. you all know this already. i dont understand why everybody is so surprised.


EXACTLY
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« Reply #43 on: February 25, 2010, 06:57:07 AM »



Does anyone have info on her stand concerning our wars?

Granted she is seeking the governship, the state, however , to get a clearer picture of this it would help me a great deal to know what her platform is concering the wars, the patriot act, bailouts, ok and yes fed issues, but they do effect the citizenry.

Evidence is mounting as to her selling out, is she truly for the people of Texas and this nation or running a lip service. Her 912, and remark* despicable concerning the 911 abomination and truthers, lets face it, spitting in the eye of the knowledgeable.

Did she attach herself to the wagon of R.P simply to get her foot in the door, or did she truly beleive in the beggining. If she was a beleiver, what happened? If not she was an opportunist.
Had she ever mentioned proir to her 912 and slandering truthers a stand in regards to 911, or truthers.

I know, questions irritate, and these may seem childish, but the only dumb question is the one that isn't asked.
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« Reply #44 on: February 25, 2010, 07:22:08 AM »

I'll add a couple of question too.

Using the same logic that anyone who dares question the truth of 911, then would she agree also that 'birthers' are part of a despicable cult?

Has she or a close family member of hers purchased something expensive lately or will in the near future?   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #45 on: February 25, 2010, 08:54:18 AM »


Does anyone have info on her stand concerning our wars?


She wants to bring the Texas national guard home from Iraq and deploy them along the Mexican border.

But attention has been deflected from that by the Karl Rove 9/11 move.

You've been played, people.  Karl Rove has been doing this kind of manipulation since Nixon's days.  The 9/11 truth movement has been turned upon itself just days before the primary.  The goal is to pull a point or two away from Medina, so she can't challenge Perry in a runoff.  Don't fall for it.
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« Reply #46 on: February 25, 2010, 08:56:53 AM »

I strongly suspect that the NWO
made her an offer she could not refuse.

Does she have children whose lives could be threatened ?

Did she wake up with "a horse's head next to her in bed" ?

This is not as far fetched as it sounds.

We do not know what deals have to be made in order to gain political office.
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« Reply #47 on: February 25, 2010, 09:02:57 AM »

I strongly suspect that the NWO
made her an offer she could not refuse.

Does she have children whose lives could be threatened ?

Did she wake up with "a horse's head next to her in bed" ?

This is not as far fetched as it sounds.

We do not what deals have to be made in order to gain political office.

Anything is possible in the rag-tag game of politics!
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« Reply #48 on: February 25, 2010, 09:09:22 AM »

She wants to bring the Texas national guard home from Iraq and deploy them along the Mexican border.

But attention has been deflected from that by the Karl Rove 9/11 move.

You've been played, people.  Karl Rove has been doing this kind of manipulation since Nixon's days.  The 9/11 truth movement has been turned upon itself just days before the primary.  The goal is to pull a point or two away from Medina, so she can't challenge Perry in a runoff.  Don't fall for it.

This is correct.

As I said in the first post, this was not only a trap for Medina but for YOU too, the truth movement - in fact it was mostly for you and the "leaders" of the truth movement like AJ.

Btw, the original title of this thread was "Don't throw Medina under the bus" before one of the pranksters changed it - I would be grateful if someone would change it back - this is not a time for silly games.
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« Reply #49 on: February 25, 2010, 09:16:58 AM »

This is correct.

As I said in the first post, this was not only a trap for Medina but for YOU too, the truth movement - in fact it was mostly for you and the "leaders" of the truth movement like AJ.

Btw, the original title of this thread was "Don't throw Medina under the bus" before one of the pranksters changed it - I would be grateful if someone would change it back - this is not a time for silly games.

You never answered my question...

Do you also support Glen Beck ?
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« Reply #50 on: February 25, 2010, 09:28:04 AM »

You never answered my question...

Do you also support Glen Beck ?

Well it was a superfluous and frivolous question but the answer is No.

So now perhaps you will answer my substantive and relevant question of "What Is Your Point?" and point out where in the content of what Medina signed up to in the 9/12 stuff lies any inconsistency or contradiction with her policy platform..because that was your statement wasn't it? Let's find it...

There is every reason to believe that she would not honour the principles of her election platform

SEE THIS

Debra Medina & Glenn Beck's 9/12 Project - Contract
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So according to you the content of the 9/12 stuff that Medina signed is "every reason to believe that she will not honour the principles of her election platform". Please explain this for us....
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« Reply #51 on: February 25, 2010, 09:36:51 AM »

This is correct.

As I said in the first post, this was not only a trap for Medina but for YOU too, the truth movement - in fact it was mostly for you and the "leaders" of the truth movement like AJ.

Btw, the original title of this thread was "Don't throw Medina under the bus" before one of the pranksters changed it - I would be grateful if someone would change it back - this is not a time for silly games.

There was no trap for Medina here. She joined Beck's 9/12 project back in November, 2009 which is the same as saying "SHUT THE f**k UP ABOUT 9/11 AND GO BACK TO SLEEP!". Then she purposefully throws us under the bus by agreeing, clearly and precisely, with Mark Davis that we was a despicable, paranoid cult, not once, not twice, but three times. There is no getting around it as she had three opportunities to see what was going on but continued to agree, which means she showed how she truly feels about the 9/11 truth movement and the interview was comepletely staged. The arguments that she is new, inexperienced, blah, blah, blah doesn't hold weight as it doesn't take a genious to see where Mark Davis was going with the agenda. She is not a dumb lady, unless you have proof that she is stupid that you are holding back.
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« Reply #52 on: February 25, 2010, 09:44:21 AM »

I'll add a couple of question too.

Using the same logic that anyone who dares question the truth of 911, then would she agree also that 'birthers' are part of a despicable cult?

Has she or a close family member of hers purchased something expensive lately or will in the near future?   Roll Eyes

Medina is a birther - she has said so many times and repeated it during that infamous interview with Mark Davis.

This is what's so crazy about this reactionary frenzy against Medina. She is a real person and a proper constitutional candidate who is for freedom..but because she mis-spoke about an issue that she knows little about and has not campaigned on, she is now the devil in drag..get a fricking grip people!
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« Reply #53 on: February 25, 2010, 09:56:09 AM »

I guess what it boils down to will she be good for Texans, it appears she will. Despite whatever other rhetoric has been thrown in there, much that we truthers will be offended by, does it matter at this point.
Will Texans remain with state Gov in place or will they make a move and get Medina in there. What is not up in the air at this point in time.

OK, in truth I am sincerely disapointed (pizzed)by her 912, and slander of truthers, her defense of Bushmaster. Ya it rattles me. Set off warning bells, however this is state politics, if she will be good for Texas isn't that the bottom line.

I would have prefered that her take was on the level, a stance that would not permit NWO influence.

R.P among a few others are unwavering in their honesty and love of country, the basics of our nation, the Constitution and our Bill of Rights.

If nothing else she may be a tad better than the gang running Texas, lets hope we are not disapointed more than what we allready have been.

Whats the alternative folks, keep the jokers in office or give this gal a try.  There may just be more going on with Medina than we are aware of, I put mothing past the Nwo and their methodry.
 
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« Reply #54 on: February 25, 2010, 10:05:52 AM »

Medina is a birther - she has said so many times and repeated it during that infamous interview with Mark Davis.

This is what's so crazy about this reactionary frenzy against Medina. She is a real person and a proper constitutional candidate who is for freedom..but because she mis-spoke about an issue that she knows little about and has not campaigned on, she is now the devil in drag..get a fricking grip people!

Misspoke? Wow that's a reach don't you think?  

Look, anyone who gets into the political arena better be well rounded and well versed--especially in the history of our country.  The same tyranny that is taxing her property is the same tyranny that brought us Homeland Security and all the trimmings after 9/11.  

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« Reply #55 on: February 25, 2010, 10:23:26 AM »

I believe the term is controlled opposition, and you need to know these guys are masters at it. Read creature from jekyll island to learn how the bankers have financed both sides of virtually every revolution in the past few hundred years. No matter who gets in, its their man. We gotta expose the faudsters and support canidates that are for freedom, liberty and the pursite of happiness with limited government running our lives. Period.

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« Reply #56 on: February 25, 2010, 12:28:24 PM »

There was no trap for Medina here. She joined Beck's 9/12 project back in November, 2009 which is the same as saying "SHUT THE f**k UP ABOUT 9/11 AND GO BACK TO SLEEP!".

There's obviously a secret part of this 912 stuff that I'm not privy to. I realize it was started by Beck, but where in what Medina signed up to does it say or imply anything like this.  

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Then she purposefully throws us under the bus by agreeing, clearly and precisely, with Mark Davis that we was a despicable, paranoid cult, not once, not twice, but three times

No, she agreed that she should have been clearer with Beck, then to a loaded statement as I have pointed out twice already, once as a reply to you

None of this contradicts what I said, in fact it underlines my point.

Firstly, it was the belief that was agreed to be despicable, not the people.

Second, the belief that was agreed to be despicable was a loaded statement where America and Bush and those around him were responsible for 9/11 for the purpose of justifying war. So for example, if Medina just believed that it was despicable to believe that the then president was involved then the technically correct answer was to agree with the whole statement because of the way it was posed. This is a good example of why loaded questions and statements are used to trip up the inexperienced.

None of this excuses the error by Medina of failing to unload the statement or preferably making her own statement and, again, this shows her political inexperience but also her not being a trained NWO drone.

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The arguments that she is new, inexperienced, blah, blah, blah doesn't hold weight as it doesn't take a genious to see where Mark Davis was going with the agenda. She is not a dumb lady, unless you have proof that she is stupid that you are holding back.

The sad irony here is that if Medina had cleverly sidestepped the questions from Beck et al and spoken out of both sides of her mouth and was a duplicitous politician, people here would be praising her and saying how great she would be for Texas..

This whole insane attack on Medina is the definition of the phrase "cutting off your nose to spite your face".



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« Reply #57 on: February 26, 2010, 08:24:04 AM »



I just listened to her interview with Beck.

Just my oppinion OK, but her voice is reeking with either fear or she is being intimidated.

Give it a shot, listen to her reactions to Becks BS, it is as though either she agrees with each and every command from Beck or she is gonna die. She is yessing him to death, whatever he may say is agreed to, this is not the Medina of the past.

Either she is a shill, or being intimidated.  Just my take folks, but how about it, listen to her kiss this guys butt.
Question, she is well aware truthers have been her fuel, her backup, a honest source of base, why , ya why, atthis moment in thime does he become turncoat. I have to question this!!
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« Reply #58 on: February 26, 2010, 08:33:11 AM »

It's got to do with cows going "moo".

It's just what "they" do...

(of hateful envious, greedy and violent RepublicRATs, this is especially so)

It's the same reason why the noble Leviticans and noble Constantinians thew Thut"Moses" and Jesus under theirs...
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« Reply #59 on: February 26, 2010, 04:51:18 PM »


I just listened to her interview with Beck.

Just my oppinion OK, but her voice is reeking with either fear or she is being intimidated.

Give it a shot, listen to her reactions to Becks BS, it is as though either she agrees with each and every command from Beck or she is gonna die. She is yessing him to death, whatever he may say is agreed to, this is not the Medina of the past.

Either she is a shill, or being intimidated.  Just my take folks, but how about it, listen to her kiss this guys butt.
Question, she is well aware truthers have been her fuel, her backup, a honest source of base, why , ya why, atthis moment in thime does he become turncoat. I have to question this!!

listen to the mark interview and your questions will be answered. she did not wait to see the whites of their eyes, she started handing out the blueprints to the entire encampment upon the first of the enemies drumbeat.  pretty sad really. I did not want to believe it at first, but the evidence is overwhelming. now we know that Beck is CIA/FBI wih powerful connections to psychopaths like Murdoch, Romney and other senior black ops cover-upers. so she may have been justified in being scared out of her f**king mind. but that is not the type of person that can handle being confronted by 20 CIA guys and being told who runs things like Ventura was. Every stand she has is in question if they can cause her to fold so easily. What will happen when they come to her and say..."You need to confiscate guns...NOW!!!" History is not on her side.
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« Reply #60 on: February 26, 2010, 05:14:49 PM »

I get the feeling there's some hardcore tough love going on around here.
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« Reply #61 on: March 02, 2010, 11:24:49 PM »

I agree... Medina fell for the stupid Beckish tactics of "U don't want to be on the left side of the board!" and all that kind of crap.  He got her running away from being a truther of any kind... 9-11 whatever.  He made himself look like such an ass after his show (Beck)... I think Medina would have been FINE without then going back (which you can never really do) and disconnecting herself totally with specifically "9-11" truthers.  Why she thought she had to do that... heaven knows. 

But like the Dixie Chick said "We're embarrassed to be from Texas..." and that crumbled their collective careers... I believe the statements from Medina potentially did the same for her as well.  When you say something... even a little something to the world, they hear a lot and project it very far down the road on you.  By George... Medina sank her own battleship!  I truly believe that by her agreeing statements and her own statements as well.
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« Reply #62 on: March 02, 2010, 11:31:07 PM »

I agree... Medina fell for the stupid Beckish tactics of "U don't want to be on the left side of the board!" and all that kind of crap.  He got her running away from being a truther of any kind... 9-11 whatever.  He made himself look like such an ass after his show (Beck)... I think Medina would have been FINE without then going back (which you can never really do) and disconnecting herself totally with specifically "9-11" truthers.  Why she thought she had to do that... heaven knows. 

But like the Dixie Chick said "We're embarrassed to be from Texas..." and that crumbled their collective careers... I believe the statements from Medina potentially did the same for her as well.  When you say something... even a little something to the world, they hear a lot and project it very far down the road on you.  By George... Medina sank her own battleship!  I truly believe that by her agreeing statements and her own statements as well.

Well I haven't seen any numbers but we do know that interest levels were raised in these areas: property rights, gun rights and all other rights, 9/11 and the Constitution. How dare any patriot diss her.
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« Reply #63 on: March 02, 2010, 11:42:22 PM »

LOL... now you sound like Clinton.  She's out, baby.  Sounds like you're definitely in the minority.  Are you in Texas?  Did you support her?
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« Reply #64 on: March 02, 2010, 11:58:25 PM »

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6220OE20100303?type=politicsNews

"I have called Governor Perry congratulating him on his victory," Hutchison said in televised remarks from Dallas, after election results showed Perry with a commanding lead.

The poll results showed Perry, who has been governor since 2000, with more than the 50 percent needed to avoid an April runoff.

He will face former Houston Mayor Bill White in the November general election. White beat Houston businessman Farouk Shami in the Democratic primary.
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« Reply #65 on: March 03, 2010, 12:26:27 AM »

Amazing. Now he sets history.


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« Reply #66 on: March 03, 2010, 10:54:12 PM »

David Kirkland of the Constitution Party for Texas Governor.


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