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I have watched the Medina clip with Alex's response. And I'm with Alex's immediate reaction. "I'm going to withdraw my support for Debra Medina in this election if I don't hear an apology and a clarification on this." - Alex Jones
Min 4:12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WECbW17IvMI can't identify Medina as "another fake person who caters to corporate pressure" based on how she handled a loaded "do you agree/disagree" neo-con question. Not yet. (IMO) she deserves at least the chance to clarify, in her own words, and state never to waver on Americans' rights to free speech and to to freely question our government. Short of that, I will withdraw my support too. All I'm saying is give her ONE chance. Let her speak. -------------- I too like Ron Paul for his consistency. Thanks for the links. perhaps I was a bit too passionate about the statementabout her being just another... thanks for the constructive criticism. But the response from her campaign was something that i would have expected from a Karl Rove type outfit. It really does not address the core issue and still asks for everyone to bend over backwards to "beat the establishment". It seems so hypocritical as the core issue is standing up to government on behalf of the people and their concerns as well as the total 180 degree turn. |
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« Reply #81 on: February 25, 2010, 08:46:12 AM » |
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You haven't "analyzed" the question thoroughly. While you've been floating around in the ozone wherever you are, a man who was my representative for ten years has this to say about Debra Medina: Dear Defender of Liberty, I would like to introduce you to a good friend of mine, Debra Medina. I have known Debra for over ten years and have always been impressed by her drive and commitment to principle. Debra has been a real defender of Liberty both in her home town of Wharton and across the state of Texas. Debra has for years been a key supporter and member of my campaign team. As chairman of the Wharton County Republican Party, she has stood up to the big government establishment and fought to hold our party accountable to our platform and our conservative Texas values. Because of her leadership and organizational skills, I asked Debra to serve on the board of directors of my national grassroots action group, Campaign for Liberty, where she has played an important role in our fight to defend our Constitution. In addition to her political accomplishments, I am proud of Debra for the person she is. Debra Medina is a loving wife, a home school mother of two talented honor students, and a successful business owner. Debra is a true success story and role model for Texans across our state. I am proud to call Debra Medina a friend, and as a fellow Texan, I encourage you to get to know her. Debra is exploring a run for higher office and would appreciate your input on her effort. You can learn more about her at www.medinafortexas.com. I am sure we will look to Debra for leadership in my community and across our state for many years to come. In Liberty, Ron Paul Was that written before or after she threw us under the bus? Because even AJ would have written a similar letter IMO with different facts of course prior to the complete 180 degree turn. |
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« Reply #82 on: February 25, 2010, 08:55:28 AM » |
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We're 9/10ers not 9/12ers - Medina has chosen to join the liars and desert the truthers - good riddance to the loser. She's definitely not with us, in any way shape nor form and she never was. Both her and Rand Paul are false flag ops.
Even Ron is a waste of time. Ron Paul has always been 100% cointelpro and a total liar.
"Auditors" will not save us. (ROTFLMAO)
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« Reply #83 on: February 25, 2010, 09:01:53 AM » |
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Perhaps it's all of your faith that voting a person into the system is going to change things that make you all argue over this shit.
She didn't stand up for 9/11 truth because she can't win if she does. There are more people that are afraid of the "truthers'" crazy ideas than there are "truthers". Damn, I hate that label, and some of you are starting to use it to describe yourself, kind of like somebody using a racial slur to describe themselves. It seems like a lot of people are starting to put their time and effort into making somebody you can believe in win this election, and now there's arguments over what side this person is on. So how many possibilities can this really pan out?
She is on your side, but can't make it seem too obvious, or people will think she's a nut job.
She is on Glen Beck's side, but is trying to fool you into thinking otherwise.
She is just telling the people what they want to hear, in order to gain enough support to win an election.
Even if she is on "our side", what the hell is she going to do in office that will make everything better?
Nothing.
Nothing's going to change with her, or anybody else, in office. Not in the way we need it to change; it can only go in the wrong direction, but depending on who we choose, it might go a bit slower in the wrong direction.
It is - and always has been - up to the people, not some stupid ass PROM QUEEN.... or king....
Also, you might want to start getting your heads out of Ron Pauls' ass, for all you know, he's their deep cover guy. There's always going to be somebody that appears on your side, and they will always be able to control you if you look to them for guidance. Guidance -or whatever you want to call it- like, Ron Paul writing a letter about this Medina character, praising her.....character....
You missed the entire point, this is not about 9/11, it's about Medina flip flopping like a fish out of water. First she said she supported our right to have a new investigation into 9/11 then turned around by throwing us under the bus by agreeing with Davis that we are a despicable, paranoid cult. And to add insult to injury, it turns out she became one of Beck's minions back in November, 2009. BTW, nobody has their head in RP's ass, he has never flip flopped or backstabed his supporters. But you might want to try getting your head out of your own ass before accusing people of having their heads up someone elses. |
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« Reply #84 on: February 25, 2010, 09:08:09 AM » |
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You missed the entire point, this is not about 9/11, it's about Medina flip flopping like a fish out of water. First she said she supported our right to have a new investigation into 9/11 then turned around by throwing us under the bus by agreeing with Davis that we are a despicable, paranoid cult. And to add insult to injury, it turns out she became one of Beck's minions back in November, 2009.
BTW, nobody has their head in RP's ass, he has never flip flopped or backstabed his supporters. But you might want to try getting your head out of your own ass before accusing people of having their heads up someone elses.
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« Reply #85 on: February 25, 2010, 09:29:44 AM » |
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Perhaps it's all of your faith that voting a person into the system is going to change things that make you all argue over this shit.
She didn't stand up for 9/11 truth because she can't win if she does. There are more people that are afraid of the "truthers'" crazy ideas than there are "truthers". Damn, I hate that label, and some of you are starting to use it to describe yourself, kind of like somebody using a racial slur to describe themselves. It seems like a lot of people are starting to put their time and effort into making somebody you can believe in win this election, and now there's arguments over what side this person is on. So how many possibilities can this really pan out?
She is on your side, but can't make it seem too obvious, or people will think she's a nut job.
She is on Glen Beck's side, but is trying to fool you into thinking otherwise.
She is just telling the people what they want to hear, in order to gain enough support to win an election.
Even if she is on "our side", what the hell is she going to do in office that will make everything better?
Nothing.
Nothing's going to change with her, or anybody else, in office. Not in the way we need it to change; it can only go in the wrong direction, but depending on who we choose, it might go a bit slower in the wrong direction.
It is - and always has been - up to the people, not some stupid ass PROM QUEEN.... or king....
Also, you might want to start getting your heads out of Ron Pauls' ass, for all you know, he's their deep cover guy. There's always going to be somebody that appears on your side, and they will always be able to control you if you look to them for guidance. Guidance -or whatever you want to call it- like, Ron Paul writing a letter about this Medina character, praising her.....character....
how do you know that ron paul is their deep cover guy? i mean I agree that we all need to be leaders and the idea of leadership has been transformed to mean god or something and we need to change it back. IMO if Ron Paul is their deep cover guy then the illuminazis are so f**king stupid that they will never win because he teaches all the principals of liberty and wants none of the responsibilities. so way to go illuminazis, keep hiring more of these "deep cover" guys...you are so mart! |
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We're 9/10ers not 9/12ers - Medina has chosen to join the liars and desert the truthers - good riddance to the loser. She's definitely not with us, in any way shape nor form and she never was. Both her and Rand Paul are false flag ops.
Even Ron is a waste of time. Ron Paul has always been 100% cointelpro and a total liar.
"Auditors" will not save us. (ROTFLMAO)
We have had the odd Demoblican on our side but we have never had (and will never have) a Tory-Republicrat we can trust.
Ron Paul has always been 100% COINTELPRO? Wow, that is quite an outlandish conspiracy theory. Is it the way he explains that the CIA has conducted a coup on America? Is it the way he has awoken over 100 million Americans and over a billion on the planet to the insanity of central banking slavery? If he is CoIntelPro, then CoIntelPro must not mean what I think it means. Dude, you are really flying off the rails. First you go out of your way to defend Medina then since she cannot be defended you decide "well let's take Ron Paul down with her". I mean really dude, that does seem like the actual CoIntelPro operation going on at the moment. Why are you supporting it when it lacks logic and evidence? Even Medina does not seem to be CoIntelPro, but someone who just completely caved under the slightest scrutiny. And we are pointing that out. |
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« Reply #87 on: February 25, 2010, 10:27:56 AM » |
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You missed the entire point, this is not about 9/11, it's about Medina flip flopping like a fish out of water. First she said she supported our right to have a new investigation into 9/11 then turned around by throwing us under the bus by agreeing with Davis that we are a despicable, paranoid cult. And to add insult to injury, it turns out she became one of Beck's minions back in November, 2009.
BTW, nobody has their head in RP's ass, he has never flip flopped or backstabed his supporters. But you might want to try getting your head out of your own ass before accusing people of having their heads up someone elses.
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« Reply #88 on: February 25, 2010, 01:27:44 PM » |
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how do you know that ron paul is their deep cover guy? i mean I agree that we all need to be leaders and the idea of leadership has been transformed to mean god or something and we need to change it back. IMO if Ron Paul is their deep cover guy then the illuminazis are so f**king stupid that they will never win because he teaches all the principals of liberty and wants none of the responsibilities. so way to go illuminazis, keep hiring more of these "deep cover" guys...you are so mart!
While that is definitely true, I was just stating that you can't trust anybody in politics completely. Ron Paul knows what he is doing, and getting support is all he needs, he doesn't need to be followed. I'm also saying the betrayer is sometimes the person you least expect it to be, so all you can do is do what's needed to be done, and don't trust anyone else to do it for you. The only way to support Ron Paul is to do your own part in all of this. By doing that, you're not really supporting him, but the country/world's freedoms. He's a good example of a patriot, but not a Leader. |
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While that is definitely true, I was just stating that you can't trust anybody in politics completely. Ron Paul knows what he is doing, and getting support is all he needs, he doesn't need to be followed. Exactly been his position since day one. I'm also saying the betrayer is sometimes the person you least expect it to be, so all you can do is do what's needed to be done, and don't trust anyone else to do it for you. The only way to support Ron Paul is to do your own part in all of this. By doing that, you're not really supporting him, but the country/world's freedoms. He's a good example of a patriot, but not a Leader.
yeah, you are basically trolling BS via innuendo and false logic. By your definition of leader the only leader is god. I got no problem with that and RP has always said that we need to be our own leaders. AJ goes even farther to say to always do your own research and not to believe one thing he says without researching it yourself (I completely agree with this stand). |
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So, it seems that you're saying Beck, in effect did the state of Texas, and apparently the truthers from all over America and wherever, an enormous favor by outing Medina as being not just a moronic idiot, but a backstabbing moronic idiot at that? Brocke has already explained this as well, yes, he confronted her with something very important. She actually was doing great in over 3 separate interviews after that and we were supporting her and she was still rising while on the side of liberty and keeping her word. Then she went on the Mark interview and did a 180 turn. After reviewing all the facts and people trying to get an explanation (none was given and all the staff was changed), there was no other choice but to call it like it was...a betrayal as you stated. Because of that, it is now hard to trust her. |
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« Reply #91 on: February 25, 2010, 08:59:45 PM » |
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It wasn't her f-cking words. If anything, you are the spinster.
Ron Paul was on Beck circa Dec'07 and RP was asked point blank if he supported 9/11 truth. RP said no. OBecka made remarks like good because those guys are nuts, insane, delusional, etc. RP let it slide. Medina let the 'despicable' comment of the host slide. If anything, we should be modestly angry with with both Paul and Medina for NOT discounting such harsh and childish name calling ... NOT be set to lynch Medina (and/or) Paul!
I agree! Ron Paul told Beck the 9/11 theories were "preposterous". And then during a debate he said he answered "I don't believe that" to a question about his supporters that thought the government let 9/11 happen or "covered it up". Yet before that he had called 9/11 a "cover up". That in itself is a flip flop. Am I disappointed in Medina? Sure. But I'm also disappointed in AJ. Not just for trashing Medina, but also for that stunt at the 2nd amendment rally. The bottom line is that nobody is perfect. |
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Debra Medina signed Glenn Beck's 9/12 toilet paper back in November, 2009, yet the video of the signing didn't show up on youtube until February 18, 2010. Debra Medina & Glenn Beck's 9/12 Project - Contracthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0miZegmTvYVideoed on 11-4-2009. Debra Medina & Glenn Beck's 9/12 Project - Contract The contract itself isn't bad. It doesn't say "Hate all 9/11 truthers and support wars". The person who came up with the contract (Glenn Beck) is of course a total jerk. The real "tea partiers" screwed up by letting Glenn Beck and other neocons hijack the whole agenda from jump. |
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« Reply #93 on: February 25, 2010, 09:12:27 PM » |
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I agree! Ron Paul told Beck the 9/11 theories were "preposterous". And then during a debate he said he answered "I don't believe that" to a question about his supporters that thought the government let 9/11 happen or "covered it up". Yet before that he had called 9/11 a "cover up". That in itself is a flip flop. Am I disappointed in Medina? Sure. But I'm also disappointed in AJ. Not just for trashing Medina, but also for that stunt at the 2nd amendment rally. The bottom line is that nobody is perfect.
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Is there a Constitution Party candidate willing to step up to the plate in Texas ??
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« Reply #95 on: February 25, 2010, 10:57:14 PM » |
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yeah, you are basically trolling BS via innuendo and false logic. By your definition of leader the only leader is god. I got no problem with that and RP has always said that we need to be our own leaders. AJ goes even farther to say to always do your own research and not to believe one thing he says without researching it yourself (I completely agree with this stand).
Nobody mentioned "GOD" until you did, between the two of us. God has nothing to do with this, except those who belive in this religion bullshit, which even then, they could be wrong I suppose. I am certainly not trolling. I am saying Ron Paul only needs support, nothing else. You need to do your part, and YOU need to do exactly what "RP" is doing. Which would be, I suppose, telling the truth and spreading information. Medina needs to get out of this race, and so do all of you. By saying that this f**king piece of hell election is going to change anything at all, you're all lying to yourselves. Do you really all think that the election, that is using the same system that has corrupted the whole country, is going to change anything without the people of the country changing the way they run they're own lives? I 'm not trolling. But since you have the powers of he MODERATOR, you can say whatever the f**k you want and get away with it. Talk about COINTELPRO, eh? |
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« Reply #96 on: February 26, 2010, 12:46:26 AM » |
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The contract itself isn't bad. It doesn't say "Hate all 9/11 truthers and support wars". The person who came up with the contract (Glenn Beck) is of course a total jerk. The real "tea partiers" screwed up by letting Glenn Beck and other neocons hijack the whole agenda from jump.
Of course, the contract itself isn't bad. Yeah, it's because it's "Glen Beck" that is the reason why it's f**ked up. yeah..... Oh, the "Tea Partiers" let "Glen Beck" and other "neocons" hijack the whole agenda, it wasn't because they Powers That Be let somebody like "Glen Beck" take ahold of the movement through the mass media. The whole name of 9/12 doesn't take any subconcious or concious feelings about 9/11 into effect about the whole thing. 9/12 has nothing to do with 9/11, and should be kept totally separate. |
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Nobody mentioned "GOD" until you did, between the two of us. God has nothing to do with this, except those who belive in this religion bullshit, which even then, they could be wrong I suppose.
I am certainly not trolling. I am saying Ron Paul only needs support, nothing else. You need to do your part, and YOU need to do exactly what "RP" is doing. Which would be, I suppose, telling the truth and spreading information.
Medina needs to get out of this race, and so do all of you. By saying that this f**king piece of hell election is going to change anything at all, you're all lying to yourselves.
Do you really all think that the election, that is using the same system that has corrupted the whole country, is going to change anything without the people of the country changing the way they run they're own lives?
I 'm not trolling.
But since you have the powers of he MODERATOR, you can say whatever the f**k you want and get away with it. Talk about COINTELPRO, eh?
I reread your earlier post and you are right, I was wrong to criticize it so harshly. I just did not understand what you meant by ron paul is a patriot but not a leader. Seems like you are saying it is stupid to think we can restore the constitution with a system of followers and leaders and everyone has to be their own leaders. If that is the case then I definitely agree. |
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Of course, the contract itself isn't bad. Yeah, it's because it's "Glen Beck" that is the reason why it's f**ked up. yeah..... Oh, the "Tea Partiers" let "Glen Beck" and other "neocons" hijack the whole agenda, it wasn't because they Powers That Be let somebody like "Glen Beck" take ahold of the movement through the mass media. The whole name of 9/12 doesn't take any subconcious or concious feelings about 9/11 into effect about the whole thing. 9/12 has nothing to do with 9/11, and should be kept totally separate.
The contract has a few issues. Number one, the oath is almost satanic given the obvious powers surrounding it. Number two there is a statement about obeying all laws. What laws exactly? The laws to throw your baby out the window? I mean what laws are we talking about here, there is no definition and we know how these things are used later. |
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I reread your earlier post and you are right, I was wrong to criticize it so harshly. I just did not understand what you meant by ron paul is a patriot but not a leader. Seems like you are saying it is stupid to think we can restore the constitution with a system of followers and leaders and everyone has to be their own leaders. If that is the case then I definitely agree.
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 I have corrected the banner on Becks 9/12 website and posted his "contract". [my comments are in brackets]The website lists the 9 Principles, accompanied by quotations from George Washington and Thomas Jefferson. The 9 Principles are: 9 Principles, 12 Values The 9 Principles1. America Is Good.
[Generic rubbish. What America? America the continent? America, the United States of? America the people? America the the quasi anglo Corporatocracy owned by the international banking families?] 2. I believe in God and He is the Center of my Life. God “The propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right which Heaven itself has ordained.” from George Washington’s first Inaugural address. [He? Has God been reduced to a patriarchal stereotype?] 3. I must always try to be a more honest person than I was yesterday.
Honesty “I hope that I shall always possess firmness and virtue enough to maintain what I consider to be the most enviable of all titles, the character of an honest man.” George Washington [So if I told 10 lies yesterday and only 9 today I'm cool with Glen] 4. The family is sacred. My spouse and I are the ultimate authority, not the government. Marriage/Family “It is in the love of one’s family only that heartfelt happiness is known. By a law of our nature, we cannot be happy without the endearing connections of a family.” Thomas Jefferson [Nothing wrong with this but tell that to Randy and Vicki Weaver] 5. If you break the law you pay the penalty. Justice is blind and no one is above it. Justice “I deem one of the essential principles of our government… equal and exact justice to all men of whatever state or persuasion, religious or political.” Thomas Jefferson [Even laws that are in direct opposition to the Constitution?] 6. I have a right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, but there is no guarantee of equal results. Life, Liberty, & The Pursuit of Happiness “Everyone has a natural right to choose that vocation in life which he thinks most likely to give him comfortable subsistence.” Thomas Jefferson [Some people will have more life, liberty and happiness than others] 7. I work hard for what I have and I will share it with who I want to. Government cannot force me to be charitable. Charity “It is not everyone who asketh that deserveth charity; all however, are worth of the inquiry or the deserving may suffer.” George Washington [What the hell? This may sound "anti-government", but it is just gibberish. Why would I not want to be charitable. This is designed to sound anti-tax but really says nothing.] 8. It is not un-American for me to disagree with authority or to share my personal opinion. On your right to disagree “In a free and republican government, you cannot restrain the voice of the multitude; every man will speak as he thinks, or more properly without thinking.” George Washington [What about questioning the official story of 911 or Global Warming?] 9. The government works for me. I do not answer to them, they answer to me. Who works for whom? “I consider the people who constitute a society or a nation as the source of all authority in that nation.” Thomas Jefferson [You forgot I have the right to prostrate myself before a corrupt, murderous, tyranny that aims to destroy all my rights.]The 12 Values* Honesty * Reverence * Hope * Thrift * Humility * Charity * Sincerity * Moderation * Hard Work * Courage * Personal Responsibility * Gratitude |
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« Reply #102 on: February 26, 2010, 03:21:41 PM » |
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Awesome artwork and analysis Brocke!
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« Reply #103 on: February 26, 2010, 03:49:35 PM » |
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Awesome artwork and analysis Brocke!
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« Reply #104 on: February 26, 2010, 04:45:45 PM » |
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I have corrected the banner on Becks 9/12 website and posted his "contract". [my comments are in brackets]The website lists the 9 Principles, accompanied by quotations from George Washington and Thomas Jefferson. The 9 Principles are: 9 Principles, 12 Values The 9 Principles1. America Is Good.
[Generic rubbish. What America? America the continent? America, the United States of? America the people? America the the quasi anglo Corporatocracy owned by the international banking families?] 2. I believe in God and He is the Center of my Life. God “The propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right which Heaven itself has ordained.” from George Washington’s first Inaugural address. [He? Has God been reduced to a patriarchal stereotype?] 3. I must always try to be a more honest person than I was yesterday.
Honesty “I hope that I shall always possess firmness and virtue enough to maintain what I consider to be the most enviable of all titles, the character of an honest man.” George Washington [So if I told 10 lies yesterday and only 9 today I'm cool with Glen] 4. The family is sacred. My spouse and I are the ultimate authority, not the government. Marriage/Family “It is in the love of one’s family only that heartfelt happiness is known. By a law of our nature, we cannot be happy without the endearing connections of a family.” Thomas Jefferson [Nothing wrong with this but tell that to Randy and Vicki Weaver] 5. If you break the law you pay the penalty. Justice is blind and no one is above it. Justice “I deem one of the essential principles of our government… equal and exact justice to all men of whatever state or persuasion, religious or political.” Thomas Jefferson [Even laws that are in direct opposition to the Constitution?] 6. I have a right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, but there is no guarantee of equal results. Life, Liberty, & The Pursuit of Happiness “Everyone has a natural right to choose that vocation in life which he thinks most likely to give him comfortable subsistence.” Thomas Jefferson [Some people will have more life, liberty and happiness than others] 7. I work hard for what I have and I will share it with who I want to. Government cannot force me to be charitable. Charity “It is not everyone who asketh that deserveth charity; all however, are worth of the inquiry or the deserving may suffer.” George Washington [What the hell? This may sound "anti-government", but it is just gibberish. Why would I not want to be charitable. This is designed to sound anti-tax but really says nothing.] 8. It is not un-American for me to disagree with authority or to share my personal opinion. On your right to disagree “In a free and republican government, you cannot restrain the voice of the multitude; every man will speak as he thinks, or more properly without thinking.” George Washington [What about questioning the official story of 911 or Global Warming?] 9. The government works for me. I do not answer to them, they answer to me. Who works for whom? “I consider the people who constitute a society or a nation as the source of all authority in that nation.” Thomas Jefferson [You forgot I have the right to prostrate myself before a corrupt, murderous, tyranny that aims to destroy all my rights.]The 12 Values* Honesty * Reverence * Hope * Thrift * Humility * Charity * Sincerity * Moderation * Hard Work * Courage * Personal Responsibility * Gratitude "All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others." Everyone who swore a sacred oath to the 9/12 project needs to read/watch animal farm like 1,000x over and over again. \ And I will give you all a hint...Glenn Beck and his handlers are the pigs. Hopefully you all can figure it out from there. |
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« Reply #105 on: February 26, 2010, 04:51:03 PM » |
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« Reply #106 on: February 27, 2010, 11:52:05 AM » |
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you are not thinking comprehensively
I wonder if you have seen this yet : Debra Medina & Glenn Beck's 9/12 Project - Contract
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« Reply #107 on: February 27, 2010, 12:02:22 PM » |
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Is this video supposed to make some sort of magical point or something?..you post it all over the place but always fail to point out where in what Medina signed up to lies any basis for the assertions that you make..so if this video means anything relevant at all, by all means enlighten us about it.. thanks |
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« Reply #108 on: February 27, 2010, 12:04:22 PM » |
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Just watched it. Like I said you are not thinking comprehensively. You need an explanation? |
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« Reply #109 on: February 27, 2010, 12:09:38 PM » |
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« Reply #110 on: February 27, 2010, 12:13:11 PM » |
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Is this video supposed to make some sort of magical point or something?..you post it all over the place but always fail to point out where in what Medina signed up to lies any basis for the assertions that you make..so if this video means anything relevant at all, by all means enlighten us about it..
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« Reply #111 on: February 27, 2010, 12:20:42 PM » |
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I find it interesting that no one is able to articulate their point about this video..the English language is diverse and complex so quite able to convey a coherent point if one existed..the inevitable conclusion being that there is no coherent point being made about this..just silly innuendo.. |
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« Reply #112 on: February 27, 2010, 12:27:00 PM » |
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I find it interesting that no one is able to articulate their point about this video..the English language is diverse and complex so quite able to convey a coherent point if one existed..the inevitable conclusion being that there is no coherent point being made about this..just silly innuendo..
Really? You don't see the implications from that public spectacle? |
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« Reply #113 on: February 27, 2010, 01:09:49 PM » |
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Really? You don't see the implications from that public spectacle?
To me, the video shows Medina signing up to a set of principles which in no way compromise her platform. What do you see? |
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« Reply #115 on: February 27, 2010, 06:09:12 PM » |
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This is just the same old innuendo and guilt by association..and, of course, failure to address the question I have put to you 4 times now. |
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« Reply #116 on: February 28, 2010, 06:16:21 AM » |
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Just as an FYI, we are still waiting for that retraction and apology from the Medina camp, and until I see that, my email to her campaign to refund my contribution stands firm. Also, just found this interview with Medina on youtube that was posted last Friday: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA0-0J7XX38&feature=relatedYou can wait for that apology til the end of time..and it's not coming |
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« Reply #117 on: February 28, 2010, 09:32:54 AM » |
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This is just the same old innuendo and guilt by association..and, of course, failure to address the question I have put to you 4 times now.
All you have done so far is illustrate an inability to listen and learn. |
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« Reply #118 on: February 28, 2010, 11:52:53 AM » |
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This is just the same old innuendo and guilt by association..and, of course, failure to address the question I have put to you 4 times now.
Absolute Proof Glenn Beck is a CoIntelPro psychopath... Hey FBI/CIA/NSA/NRO/DHS/Secret Service...
HERE IS A DIRECT THREAT TO THE STRUCTURE OF OUR REPUBLIC
THIS IS A NATIONAL THREAT TO HOMELAND SECURITY
WHY ARE YOU ALLOWING DIRECT THREATS TO PUBLIC OFFICIALS
WHY DO YOU SUPPORT THIS PSYCOPATH LIKE HAL TURNER?
Earlier today: http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200908060037Paraphrase: Glenn Beck imagines what it would be like to attend a fundraising party at Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi's house. Someone sits at his desk with a cardboard cutout of Pelosi's face over theirs; he offers "Pelosi" a glass of wine and barks at her,
"Drink it! Drink it! Drink it!" He laughs.
 
"I really just wanted to thank you for having me over here to wine country, though to be invited I thought I had to be a major Democratic donor or a longtime friend of yours, which I'm not. Uh, by the way,
I put poison in your
—no, I, uh…" He then goes on to make a bunch of tired "limousine liberal" jokes, like, "Hey, is that Sean Penn over there?"
So, yeah. He was obviously real sincere about that whole "discouraging violence" thing:
http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2009/08/glenn-beck-in-deathbed-confession.htmlMore here: http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/glenn-beck-jokes-about-putting-poiso
On his Fox show, conservative talker Glenn Beck claimed that GM's failed CEO and failed AIG executives were a victimized by "bloodsuckers" in Washington D.C.: "These vampires are not going to be satisfied by just sucking the blood of GM's top guy, the AIG executives or any other business or businessperson. Their thirst for power and control is unquenchable and there are only two ways for this to end: Either the economy becomes like the walking dead or
you drive a stake through the heart of the bloodsuckers."
Hey FBI/CIA/NSA/NRO/DHS/Secret Service...
AGAIN WE ASK...
WHY DO YOU SUPPORT THIS PSYCOPATH LIKE HAL TURNER?
WHY ARE YOU SUPPORTING THESE EFFORTS TO DESTROY OUR VERY REPUBLIC?
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« Reply #119 on: February 28, 2010, 12:03:29 PM » |
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To me, the video shows Medina signing up to a set of principles which in no way compromise her platform. What do you see?
Uhmmm...I see Medina swearing an oath of principles written by a man who has none. There is only one oath I want to hear from my elected officials...to the Constitution. The Supreme Law of the Land. Period. Once she makes that oath, all others are null and void. So, what's the point of the 912 oath? Pandering to the conservative right...it bothers me how willing to play "politics" she is. This is the kind of thing that gets laughed off later as "campaign rhetoric". |
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