BLOWBACK: MSM's attempt to alienate Medina backfires, millions more wake up to 9/11 truth

[EvadingGrid]

What interview was you listening to? How does clearly agreeing THREE TIMES that 9/11 truth is a despicable, paranoid cult not a commitment to Davis' statements and dancing around them?

By agreeing, clearly and precisely to his statements, Medina commited herself to be in complete agreement with them and threw many of her supporters under the bus. She clearly flip-flopped which is the root of the issue.

Its sad but true.

[Viper]

Also she really put emphasis on one of her "agrees".

[Optimus]

WTF? Debra Medina signed Glenn Beck's 9/12 Project contract.

Debra Medina & Glenn Beck's 9/12 Project - Contract
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0miZegmTvY

[EvadingGrid]

I think that video settles the matter for me.

[donnay]

I think that video settles the matter for me.

Ditto for me as well.

[Brocke]

Ever notice that one of the most frustrating things that politicians tend to do is to skillfully dodge and weave the real issues and serious questions?

Well 911 is definitely a real issue and a serious question. Like it or not Glen Beck (throws up a little in mouth) has ask a question about a genuine issue and Medina has ANSWERED that question. NOT skillfully dodged and weaved it. Then when interviewed by Davis she, AGAIN, ANSWERED the question when she should have avoided it because as serious as the question is it was being ask for one reason only, specifically to discredit her.

Truthers never asked for her support.

There is no need to be angry at her. She deserves one thing. Our silence. The MSM attack dogs are on her now and our support will only be be noticed by it's absence.

Let the silence roar...

[oyashango]

Ever notice that one of the most frustrating things that politicians tend to do is to skillfully dodge and weave the real issues and serious questions?

Well 911 is definitely a real issue and a serious question. Like it or not Glen Beck (throws up a little in mouth) has ask a question about a genuine issue and Medina has ANSWERED that question. NOT skillfully dodged and weaved it. Then when interviewed by Davis she, AGAIN, ANSWERED the question when she should have avoided it because as serious as the question is it was being ask for one reason only, specifically to discredit her.

Truthers never asked for her support.

There is no need to be angry at her. She deserves one thing. Our silence. The MSM attack dogs are on her now and our support will only be be noticed by it's absence.

Let the silence roar...

Good point.

I was watching the interview with her and Sanchez. I watched her body language as she gave him the open when she stated that “I think there are some questions raised by the 911 Commission that deserves an explanation.” When he came in for the kill, he demanded, “What is it? Do you are do you not think the government was involved in 911?”  That is when she began to stumble on her words and flip-flop; not giving him a direct answer. Sanchez ruefully and abruptly cut her off, claiming that he was “out of time.” He left her stumbling, and the audience seeing that she was not a credible candidate for governor.  He had achieved his objective for the Neocons, and she probably lost the respect and support of her most loyal supporter s . . . The Truth Movement.” AJ has still not recovered

[Dig]

Ever notice that one of the most frustrating things that politicians tend to do is to skillfully dodge and weave the real issues and serious questions?

Well 911 is definitely a real issue and a serious question. Like it or not Glen Beck (throws up a little in mouth) has ask a question about a genuine issue and Medina has ANSWERED that question. NOT skillfully dodged and weaved it. Then when interviewed by Davis she, AGAIN, ANSWERED the question when she should have avoided it because as serious as the question is it was being ask for one reason only, specifically to discredit her.

Truthers never asked for her support.

There is no need to be angry at her. She deserves one thing. Our silence. The MSM attack dogs are on her now and our support will only be be noticed by it's absence.

Let the silence roar...

great analysis.

[Dig]

Here is what Medina should say:

Glenn & Mark:  I am sorry I gave you the wrong impression of my stand on 911 Truth.  I am not a member of 911 Truth but I have numerous friends and supporters who are.  They are not dangerous people, they are definitely not despicable people. They are people who are simply seeking the whole truth about the events on that terrible day.  Numerous others, including Palin and Beck are also on record saying questions need to be answered.

Americans have a right to question their government in any way and at any time, and I fully support that right and the people who exercise it.  I would have no fear of having 911 Truthers on my staff if they were otherwise qualified and anyone who thinks that people seeking truth can somehow pose a danger to those in office .. well, you need to re-examine your own beliefs and principals. Now let's get back to discussing Texas.

great statement.

[shiro]

Excellent first post, my friend ... and a hardy welcome to Prison Planet Forum.

IMO yours is a truly in-the-pocket analysis of this mess ... and I am very
much hoping that she falls into the "inexperienced campaigner" column
and no the NWO SHILL column.

Can't wait for AJ's show today!

Thanks, that's kind. Glad to be here! I am waiting with baited breath to here AJ continue to elaborate and to see if-how she responds - I sent her a letter, hopefully with everyone else doing the same. Take care.

[TheCaliKid]

latest poll results?

[NEPB]

The 912 goofs all around Medina look funny. After that, I can't take Medina seriously any more. Signing Becks garbage after he fvcks over her campaign. Tsk tsk. Weak. No spine. Lame.

Here is what I would have said to Beck or any other media outlet.(if I was Medina):
 
 Well, Glenn. Either the Bush administration was involved in 911 or they were in the least incompetent and should have been removed from office, not followed into a war agianst the world. Dick Cheney is responsible for a stand down order on 911, via DOT secretary Menita's testimony which was mostly ommited by the 911 commission report. In fact There are architectural impossibilities, and pre-knowledge in the demolition of WTC building 7. GLENN. Yeah I want the truth and so should every damn red-blooded American, GLENN. Unlike you, GLENN, I wont waiver under pressure... and so on.

 Now Medina will do what ever it takes to win. But, you can't please everyone. Why suck up to Beck or any other media outlet? STICK TO YOUR GUNS.

[Brocke]

latest poll results?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2010/governor/tx/texas_governor_republican_primary-1082.html

[TheCaliKid]

^ She's DUUUUN!

[Dig]

^ She's DUUUUN!

and it is because she went with the establishment (beck will spin it and others will too. we know the truth and more importantly bilderberg knows that we know. theyknow that they must comply to the truth eventually or risk complete collapse).

A message to up and coming candidates, we are not political cattle. We are interested in the constitution. Do not play games with usand if you do not  have the balls to atleast believe in the oath of office then wtf do you believe in?

[jofortruth]

jofortruth, I just listened to Debra and she, once again, does not commit herself to Davis' statement at all. In fact, she smartly dances around his statement and answers to another issue which she has told Texans about during her campaign. I will continue to support her because she has not committed political suicide. Davis has committed MSM suicide when intelligent people figure out what he was attempting to do.

If she was so clear, then why did this blow up in her face? It is the perception of the public that is at issue here. Just look at what this event did to this forum. Some perceived it very differently than others. So, that in itself shows she was not clear in her comment.

[jofortruth]

listened to the interview she did with that guy 'Mark'... my impression was that he wanted her to agree to the description "despicable" so badly that he practically crawled into her mouth and said it for her.

She was clearly rattled in that interview;

Exactly, which shows her newness to the thug interviews at the MSM! Just with 3 MSM interviews she has gotten a lesson in the thuggery that takes place there and how you have to be prepared if you decide to accept their invitation for an interview, and tell them that you won't talk about anything but your campaign or whatever the parameters are you wish. If they decide to not have you on, so be it!

Someone ought to right a book for new politicians on how to handle the goons that interview them on the MSM, or how to avoid them completely. They are ruthless!

[Georgiacopguy]

I still think she was a plant, to give the tea party crowd athe perception they had a chance, and in several swipes of the MSM, they decapitated that hope, and attacked the core issues that she supposedly represented, and what we hoped to accomplish.

Either that, or they got to her midstream, and offered her a sweetheart deal, or threatened her, and told her to go with their flow.

[jofortruth]

Waiting patiently for a response from the Medina camp.

This is the response I got from the Medina Camp:

Thank you for contacting the Debra Medina for Governor Campaign.

That interview was last week.  No where does Debra say "truthers are despicable people".  No where does she say asking questions is despicable.  Here's the transcript:

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M: Then there's just one other thing that's left, because not being a truther is great. I'm thinking, of course you're not, of course you're not, but sometimes the wisdom is defined by knowing whom to praise and whom to, quite frankly, condemn. Someone walkin' around with the belief that America would do this to its own people, that President Bush and those around him would slaughter our own citizens in order to justify war, is a despicable thing to believe.

D: Agreed.
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We are THIS close to beating the establishment.  We have to keep up the pressure, dig in, work hard and we can win this election.  The status quo would like nothing better than to derail this campaign and keep one of their own in office.  We've seen from their years in office that neither Kay nor Rick have any interest in representing the people of Texas ahead of their own personal agendas.  What have they done to make your life better?  To protect your rights to life, liberty and property?  When have they EVER scaled back the size of government to any meaningful degree?

We not only have the chance to change history in Texas, and restore our rights as a free people, but also the course of the US.  The world is watching what we do here in Texas.  Are we going to let this stop us?  I have placed my faith in the ability of Debra Medina to lead us in this fight, and I will stand by her and fight for our rights with her.  I will not cave because the opposition is trying to divide and conquer.  No one said this was going to be an easy fight.  It's up to us to stay the course, keep our eye on the prize, and keep fighting.

Thank you,


Dustan
Medina for Governor

[jofortruth]

I still think she was a plant, to give the tea party crowd athe perception they had a chance, and in several swipes of the MSM, they decapitated that hope, and attacked the core issues that she supposedly represented, and what we hoped to accomplish.

Either that, or they got to her midstream, and offered her a sweetheart deal, or threatened her, and told her to go with their flow.

Ron Paul names Debra Medina: A Real Defender of Liberty
http://www.medinafortexas.com/getPost?p=100


I think she was sincere initially, but was duped and then thrown under the bus! She also got in over her head with the ruthless MSM types. She should have avoided them or put restrictions on what she would talk about with them. Someone didn't do their job in the ADVISOR area, IMO.  I still think we really don't know the whole story here. Something is not right about this!
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=161187.0

Hey, but you know what? She had the balls to run for office because she saw the need to do so. I really don't think she's the typical slimeball politician. I felt early on that she was being sincere, but it turned out she had no street smarts in the political realm. It's a tough arena for even the saviest!

Also, does anyone know who recruited her to run for office? She said once that someone told her she should run for office, but I never heard who it was? Any idea?

[Monkeypox]

This is the response I got from the Medina Camp:
 

Dustan must be in charge of spin for Medina.

[jofortruth]

Dustan must be in charge of spin for Medina.

He sounds young to me, as this isn't a very professional response even for a canned letter!


I wish we could find out more about what happened that caused a shakeup in her staff. That could be revealing. Does anyone know who the top people are in her campaign?

[Georgiacopguy]

I don't have any idea who pushed her to run for office, or how they figured she was qualified. Either they were a Biulderberger or I guess they figured she was as maleable as clay, so why not.

I love how her staffer slectively edited the interview to select some of the least inflammatory statements. But we need ot face facts, if that interviewer had been an attorney, there would have been a call from the ADA that they were leading the witness. Those werent as much questions as they were statements, and she readily agreed to them, and did not elaborate on her answers, relying SOLELY on his answers and interpretations of his statements. Thats a weak mind in my opinion, and it shows to what lengths she is willing to go to to achieve HER goal, not ours. Because the second she diverted from our line of thinking, she was no longer OUR candidate. Unless thats your thing.

I just hope other candidates take notice; the American people, namely those interested in Liberty, will no longer take political promises as the usual fodder such promises have been. We will withdraw our backing, our support, our love for a candidate, and leave them standing alone on the stage if they seek to fool us, mislead us, or play games. Those days are coming to an end. She learned this the hard way. I hope she continues to regret her actions, and her dishonorable efforts and statements. She made it more about her, and less about us.

[TheCaliKid]

and it is because she went with the establishment (beck will spin it and others will too. we know the truth and more importantly bilderberg knows that we know. theyknow that they must comply to the truth eventually or risk complete collapse).

A message to up and coming candidates, we are not political cattle. We are interested in the constitution. Do not play games with usand if you do not  have the balls to atleast believe in the oath of office then wtf do you believe in?

Yep.

I am sticking with my original prediction that 2010 will be 1994 all over again. The GOP will sweep the states, and nothing will change. Wake up!

[jofortruth]

...if that interviewer had been an attorney, there would have been a call from the ADA that they were leading the witness. Those werent as much questions as they were statements, and she readily agreed to them, and did not elaborate on her answers, relying SOLELY on his answers and interpretations of his statements.

I felt the same when I listened to Mark say that. He was trying to control her into the right answer. He was detestable.

I don't think Debra is a weakminded or unintelligent person. These MSM sharks are hard for anyone to go up against, and it's even worse when you have no training in how these guys are.

After watching the 3 interviews (Beck, Davis and Sanchez) this should wake up the public to how ruthless and complicit the MSM is towards the public. They are completely arrogant and they revealed who they really work for - THE ESTABLISHMENT! People need to learn from this and stop being fooled by the ESTABLISHMENT owned media. They are nothing but gatekeepers who menace the public at every turn.  These guys are the lowest of the low, IMO! 

[Georgiacopguy]

I agree, i hope the people see the arrogance of these pukes, and how viciously they act like Bilderberg attack dogs. But the public has it in their minds that the media is simply trying to protect them from the wrong candidates.

Until conversations like this very one become mainstream, I don't think it will ever happen. We are too splintered to act as a single force. If we were to focus our energies, we could accomplish so much more. The next time Beck shows his ass, if every active member of this board and the libertarian movement were to clog his radio call in numbers, his office numbers, his fax numbers, his emails. If we were to put up billboards in his neighborhood calling him out, telling the truth, if we were to conduct our own coordinated national press releases, we could do just as much damage to his reputation as he did by asking Medina a question. Simple truths work, and if we ask the same simple question i the public eye often enough, other people will begin to ask the same question. It's like Hitler said, if you tell a lie often enough, people will believe it.

I felt the same when I listened to Mark say that. He was trying to control her into the right answer. He was detestable.

I don't think Debra is a weakminded or unintelligent person. These MSM sharks are hard for anyone to go up against, and it's even worse when you have no training in how these guys are.

After watching the 3 interviews (Beck, Davis and Sanchez) this should wake up the public to how ruthless and complicit the MSM is towards the public. They are completely arrogant and they revealed who they really work for - THE ESTABLISHMENT! People need to learn from this and stop being fooled by the ESTABLISHMENT owned media. They are nothing but gatekeepers who menace the public at every turn.  These guys are the lowest of the low, IMO! 

[Dig]

M: Then there's just one other thing that's left, because not being a truther is great. I'm thinking, of course you're not, of course you're not, but sometimes the wisdom is defined by knowing whom to praise and whom to, quite frankly, condemn. Someone walkin' around with the belief that America would do this to its own people, that President Bush and those around him would slaughter our own citizens in order to justify war, is a despicable thing to believe.

D: Agreed.


Ray McGovern who spent over 20 years at the CIA: "Do I think that Dick Cheney is capable of allowing a plane to hit the Pentagon in order to assist him in political objectives? Well from what I know of Dick Cheney the answer is YES!"

Sy Hersch: "Dick Cheney wanted to dress up Navy Seals as Iranians and then have them fire on US ships. The plan was cancelled because the Navy Seals would be killed in the process and it is difficult to justify killing innocent Americans to justify provoking a war with Iran. But Dick Cheney was really pushing this one hard."

Sibel Edmonds...ditto

Indira Singh...ditto

Chief of the Visa office in Saudi Arabia: "These people did not qualify for Visas but I was told by the CIA that I had to give them Visas because they worked for the CIA in important projects."

CIA officer Robert Baer (whose similar role was played by George Clooney in the the fictional movie Syriana): Elements of our government helped in the attack of 9/11.

General Stubblebine: The official story is false.

Huffman Aviation where some of the hijackers were trained was a CIA operation involved in the Iran Contra drug cartel business overseen by Jeb Bush.

GWB's brother was a director for Kroll who was in charge of security for the tein towers on 9/11.

Jeb Bush declared Martial Law in Florida on 9/7/2001 to be enforced on 9/11/2001.

It goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on.

[Note: above are paraphrasing from what I remember]

[Valerius]

...

Let the silence roar...

Perhaps wise beyond your years.

[Dig]

Even though the issue with Medina is not about 9/11 but about her flip flopping so easily, the Bildebrgerg illuminazis used Glen Beck and Mark Davis to open the 9/11 truth pandora's box. They only do this when they have no other choice and realize that by doing it, millions more people will know the truth about 9/11.

So here ya go everybody, a little truth for the masses...

Fifty questions on 9/11
http://northerntruthseeker.blogspot.com/2009/09/50-unanswered-questions-about-9-11.html
By Pepe Escobar 9/11/2009

It's September 11 all over again - eight years on. The George W Bush administration is out. The "global war on terror" is still on, renamed "overseas contingency operations" by the Barack Obama administration. Obama's "new strategy" - a war escalation - is in play in AfPak. Osama bin Laden may be dead or not. "Al-Qaeda" remains a catch-all ghost entity. September 11 - the neo-cons' "new Pearl Harbor" - remains the darkest jigsaw puzzle of the young 21st century.

It's useless to expect US corporate media and the ruling elites' political operatives to call for a true, in-depth investigation into the attacks on the US on September 11, 2001. Whitewash has been the norm. But even establishment highlight Dr Zbig "Grand Chessboard" Brzezinski, a former national security advisor, has admitted to the US Senate that the post-9/11 "war on terror" is a "mythical historical narrative".

The following questions, some multi-part - and most totally ignored by the 9/11 Commission - are just the tip of the immense 9/11 iceberg. A hat tip goes to the indefatigable work of 911truth.org; whatreallyhappened.com; architects and engineers for 9/11 truth; the Italian documentary Zero: an investigation into 9/11; and Asia Times Online readers' e-mails.

None of these questions has been convincingly answered - according to the official narrative. It's up to US civil society to keep up the pressure. Eight years after the fact, one fundamental conclusion is imperative. The official narrative edifice of 9/11 is simply not acceptable.

Fifty questions
1) How come dead or not dead Osama bin Laden has not been formally indicted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) as responsible for 9/11? Is it because the US government - as acknowledged by the FBI itself - has not produced a single conclusive piece of evidence?

2) How could all the alleged 19 razor-blade box cutter-equipped Muslim perpetrators have been identified in less than 72 hours - without even a crime scene investigation?

3) How come none of the 19's names appeared on the passenger lists released the same day by both United Airlines and American Airlines?

4) How come eight names on the "original" FBI list happened to be found alive and living in different countries?

5) Why would pious jihadi Mohammed Atta leave a how-to-fly video manual, a uniform and his last will inside his bag knowing he was on a suicide mission?

6) Why did Mohammed Atta study flight simulation at Opa Locka, a hub of no less than six US Navy training bases?

7) How could Mohammed Atta's passport have been magically found buried among the Word Trade Center (WTC)'s debris when not a single flight recorder was found?

8 ) Who is in the possession of the "disappeared" eight indestructible black boxes on those four flights?

9) Considering multiple international red alerts about a possible terrorist attack inside the US - including former secretary of state Condoleezza Rice's infamous August 6, 2001, memo - how come four hijacked planes deviating from their computerized flight paths and disappearing from radar are allowed to fly around US airspace for more than an hour and a half - not to mention disabling all the elaborate Pentagon's defense systems in the process?

10) Why the secretary of the US Air Force James Roche did not try to intercept both planes hitting the WTC (only seven minutes away from McGuire Air Force Base in New Jersey) as well as the Pentagon (only 10 minutes away from McGuire)? Roche had no less than 75 minutes to respond to the plane hitting the Pentagon.

11) Why did George W Bush continue to recite "My Pet Goat" in his Florida school and was not instantly absconded by the secret service?

12) How could Bush have seen the first plane crashing on WTC live - as he admitted? Did he have previous knowledge - or is he psychic?

13) Bush said that he and Andrew Card initially thought the first hit on the WTC was an accident with a small plane. How is that possible when the FAA as well as NORAD already knew this was about a hijacked plane?

14) What are the odds of transponders in four different planes be turned off almost simultaneously, in the same geographical area, very close to the nation's seat of power in Washington, and no one scrambles to contact the Pentagon or the media?

15) Could defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld explain why initial media reports said that there were no fighter jets available at Andrews Air Force Base and then change the reports that there were, but not on high alert?

16) Why was the DC Air National Guard in Washington AWOL on 9/11?

17) Why did combat jet fighters of the 305th Air Wing, McGuire Air Force Base in New Jersey not intercept the second hijacked plane hitting the WTC, when they could have done it within seven minutes?

18 ) Why did none of the combat jet fighters of the 459th Aircraft Squadron at Andrews Air Force Base intercept the plane that hit the Pentagon, only 16 kilometers away? And since we're at it, why the Pentagon did not release the full video of the hit?

19) A number of very experienced airline pilots - including US ally Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, a former fighter jet pilot - revealed that, well, only crack pilots could have performed such complex maneuvers on the hijacked jets, while others insisted they could only have been accomplished by remote control. Is it remotely believable that the hijackers were up to the task?

20) How come a substantial number of witnesses did swear seeing and hearing multiple explosions in both towers of the WTC?

21) How come a substantial number of reputed architects and engineers are adamant that the official narrative simply does not explain the largest structural collapse in recorded history (the Twin Towers) as well as the collapse of WTC building 7, which was not even hit by a jet?

22) According to Frank de Martini, WTC's construction manager, "We designed the building to resist the impact of one or more jetliners." The second plane nearly missed tower 1; most of the fuel burned in an explosion outside the tower. Yet this tower collapsed first, long before tower 2 that was "perforated" by the first hit. Jet fuel burned up fast - and by far did not reach the 2000-degree heat necessary to hurt the six tubular steel columns in the center of the tower - designed specifically to keep the towers from collapsing even if hit by a Boeing 707. A Boeing 707 used to carry more fuel than the Boeing 757 and Boeing 767 that actually hit the towers.

23) Why did Mayor Rudolph Giuliani instantly authorized the shipment of WTC rubble to China and India for recycling?

24) Why was metallic debris found no less than 13 kilometers from the crash site of the plane that went down in Pennsylvania? Was the plane in fact shot down - under vice president Dick Cheney's orders?

25) The Pipelineistan question. What did US ambassador Wendy Chamberlain talk about over the phone on October 10, 2001, with the oil minister of Pakistan? Was it to tell him that the 1990s-planned Unocal gas pipeline project, TAP (Turkmenistan/Afghanistan/ Pakistan), abandoned because of Taliban demands on transit fees, was now back in business? (Two months later, an agreement to build the pipeline was signed between the leaders of the three countries).

26) What is former Unocal lobbyist and former Bush pet Afghan Zalmay Khalilzad up to in Afghanistan?

27) How come former Pakistani foreign minister Niaz Niak said in mid-July 2001 that the US had already decided to strike against Osama bin Laden and the Taliban by October? The topic was discussed secretly at the July Group of Eight summit in Genoa, Italy, according to Pakistani diplomats.

28 ) How come US ambassador to Yemen Barbara Bodine told FBI agent John O'Neill in July 2001 to stop investigating al-Qaeda's financial operations - with O'Neill instantly moved to a security job at the WTC, where he died on 9/11?

29) Considering the very intimate relationship between the Taliban and Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), and the ISI and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), is Bin Laden alive, dead or still a valuable asset of the ISI, the CIA or both?

30) Was Bin Laden admitted at the American hospital in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates on July 4, 2001, after flying from Quetta, Pakistan, and staying for treatment until July 11?

31) Did the Bin Laden group build the caves of Tora Bora in close cooperation with the CIA during the 1980s' anti-Soviet jihad?

32) How come General Tommy Franks knew for sure that Bin Laden was hiding in Tora Bora in late November 2001?

33) Why did president Bill Clinton abort a hit on Bin Laden in October 1999? Why did then-Pakistani president Pervez Musharraf abort a covert ops in the same date? And why did Musharraf do the same thing again in August 2001?

34) Why did George W Bush dissolve the Bin Laden Task Force nine months before 9/11?

35) How come the (fake) Bin Laden home video - in which he "confesses" to being the perpetrator of 9/11 - released by the US on December 13, 2001, was found only two weeks after it was produced (on November 9); was it really found in Jalalabad (considering Northern Alliance and US troops had not even arrived there at the time); by whom; and how come the Pentagon was forced to release a new translation after the first (botched) one?

36) Why was ISI chief Lieutenant General Mahmud Ahmad abruptly "retired" on October 8, 2001, the day the US started bombing Afghanistan?

37) What was Ahmad up to in Washington exactly on the week of 9/11 (he arrived on September 4)? On the morning of 9/11, Ahmad was having breakfast on Capitol Hill with Bob Graham and Porter Goss, both later part of the 9/11 Commission, which simply refused to investigate two of its members. Ahmad had breakfast with Richard Armitage of the State Department on September 12 and 13 (when Pakistan negotiated its "cooperation" with the "war on terror") and met all the CIA and Pentagon top brass. On September 13, Musharraf announced he would send Ahmad to Afghanistan to demand to the Taliban the extradition of Bin Laden.
38 ) Who inside the ISI transferred US$100,000 to Mohammed Atta in the summer of 2001 - under orders of Ahmad himself, as Indian intelligence insists? Was it really ISI asset Omar Sheikh, Bin Laden's information technology specialist who later organized the slaying of American journalist Daniel Pearl in Karachi? So was the ISI directly linked to 9/11?

39) Did the FBI investigate the two shady characters who met Mohammed Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi in Harry's Bar at the Helmsley Hotel in New York City on September 8, 2001?

40) What did director of Asian affairs at the State Department Christina Rocca and the Taliban ambassador to Pakistan Abdul Salam Zaeef discuss in their meeting in Islamabad in August 2001?

41) Did Washington know in advance that an "al-Qaeda" connection would kill Afghan nationalist commander Ahmad Shah Massoud, aka "The Lion of the Panjshir", only two days before 9/11? Massoud was fighting the Taliban and al-Qaeda - helped by Russia and Iran. According to the Northern Alliance, Massoud was killed by an ISI-Taliban-al Qaeda axis. If still alive, he would never have allowed the US to rig a loya jirga (grand council) in Afghanistan and install a puppet, former CIA asset Hamid Karzai, as leader of the country.

42) Why did it take no less than four months before the name of Ramzi Binalshibh surfaced in the 9/11 context, considering the Yemeni was a roommate of Mohammed Atta in his apartment cell in Hamburg?

43) Is pathetic shoe-bomber Richard Reid an ISI asset?

44) Did then-Russian president Vladimir Putin and Russian intelligence tell the CIA in 2001 that 25 terrorist pilots had been training for suicide missions?

45) When did the head of German intelligence, August Hanning, tell the CIA that terrorists were "planning to hijack commercial aircraft?"

46) When did Egyptian President Mubarak tell the CIA about an attack on the US with an "airplane stuffed with explosives?"

47) When did Israel's Mossad director Efraim Halevy tell the CIA about a possible attack on the US by "200 terrorists?"

48 ) Were the Taliban aware of the warning by a Bush administration official as early as February 2001 - "Either you accept our offer of a carpet of gold, or we bury you under a carpet of bombs?"

49) Has Northrop-Grumman used Global Hawk technology - which allows to remotely control unmanned planes - in the war in Afghanistan since October 2001? Did it install Global Hawk in a commercial plane? Is Global Hawk available at all for commercial planes?

50) Would Cheney stand up and volunteer the detailed timeline of what he was really up to during the whole day on 9/11?

Pepe Escobar is the author of Globalistan: How the Globalized World is Dissolving into Liquid War (Nimble Books, 2007) and Red Zone Blues: a snapshot of Baghdad during the surge. His new book, just out, is Obama does Globalistan (Nimble Books, 2009).

He may be reached at pepeasia@yahoo.com.

[Joseon]

Ron Paul names Debra Medina: A Real Defender of Liberty
http://www.medinafortexas.com/getPost?p=100


I think she was sincere initially, but was duped and then thrown under the bus! She also got in over her head with the ruthless MSM types. She should have avoided them or put restrictions on what she would talk about with them. Someone didn't do their job in the ADVISOR area, IMO.  I still think we really don't know the whole story here. Something is not right about this!
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=161187.0

Hey, but you know what? She had the balls to run for office because she saw the need to do so. I really don't think she's the typical slimeball politician. I felt early on that she was being sincere, but it turned out she had no street smarts in the political realm. It's a tough arena for even the saviest!

Also, does anyone know who recruited her to run for office? She said once that someone told her she should run for office, but I never heard who it was? Any idea?

Well, Medina shouldn't have run for Governor, if she didn't know what she was getting into. We could've gotten Alex Jones, or somebody true to their word to run for Governor, in which he would probably win. Which begs the question, why doesn't Alex Jones run for Governor of Texas?

[Freeski]

Which begs the question, why doesn't Alex Jones run for Governor of Texas?

Now THAT would be a campaign!

[Joseon]

I felt the same when I listened to Mark say that. He was trying to control her into the right answer. He was detestable.

Well, he's paid big bucks to be a prostitute what else is news. Medina should have avoided the question, since 9/11 does not have a relevant enough connection to Texas Governor race to be even mentioned. The fact that, either Medina fell for the bait, or willing did so, speaks very little or much about Medina's credibility.

I don't think Debra is a weakminded or unintelligent person. These MSM sharks are hard for anyone to go up against, and it's even worse when you have no training in how these guys are.

You think the MSM are sharks? They are prostitutes, paid big bucks to spin and give lies to the general public. They are just as pathetic as the general public, but they got lucky and they have something called condescending 'indifference' towards the main stream public. Regarding Medina, she may be a weak-minded person or even unintelligent(I doubt it). I say, what was she thinking of running for governor if she couldn't handle the heat of being in the spotlight?

After watching the 3 interviews (Beck, Davis and Sanchez) this should wake up the public to how ruthless and complicit the MSM is towards the public.

much of the pubic does know that the MSM is corrupt to the very core. The reality is that there is nothing the public will do to change their reality, change the system, because in the end of things, people care more about being alive and so called safe, then to challenge authority and uniting together for a good purpose.

They are completely arrogant and they revealed who they really work for - THE ESTABLISHMENT!

Well the establishment has provent that they can rule with tyranny whenever and wherever they want. The arrogance is quite justified when none of us, or any common person rebels and fights against the system.

People need to learn from this and stop being fooled by the ESTABLISHMENT owned media.

People need to challenge the system and stop complying with the directives and issuances of government policy. People need to stop fighting in wars, paying taxes, watching TV, movies, stop going to doctors. etc..

 

They are nothing but gatekeepers who menace the public at every turn.

I think lots of people know the system is corrupt. Lots of people don't really care, or have time to look carefully into the system. Yes, you right, from that point of view of the public, the MSM are essentially gatekeepers, or our parents. javascript:void(0);

These guys are the lowest of the low, IMO!  

anybody working for the system is a prostitute, plain and simple. They are people with below average IQ, but have a keen sense of opportunity. They sense which way the wind is blowing, since the bad guys are winning by a large margin. So they join up with the bad guys, hoping not to be eviscerated by the same gang that demolished the middle class.

[Joseon]

Now THAT would be a campaign!

Cheers. 

[Matt Hatter]

Alex would be way to busy, but what about one of his writers, like Jason Burmas. We would fund the hell out of you man! And you would expose the establishment. Even if you didn't win you would wake a hell of a lot of people up!

[Joseon]

Not a bad idea, to have Bermas run for governorship. MEdina proves that anybody can become governor(now that there is a large support for a third party candidate),

Like Gusteau's "Anybody can Cook" ( )

[Georgiacopguy]

Even if he didnt win, can you imagine the questions he could pose in such a huge fora??? He could do what Medina shoulda done, smack people in the face with thetruth like he did those Popular mechanics 'experts' that Beck wouldnt let him debate a second time, and there would be no way they could shut him up save for obvious censorship or candidate favortism... Maybe he needs to run, even if he doesnt expect to win. If he didnt want it, he could always bow out, and throw his support behind someone he/ we beleived in.

Not a bad idea, to have Bermas run for governorship. MEdina proves that anybody can become governor(now that there is a large support for a third party candidate),

Like Gusteau's "Anybody can Cook" ( )

[EarthAngel_2012]

OMG.. you ppl here search so much and find nothing and still don't get it...nothing is accident.. they need america to collapse.. it's bout that time they will show us all the corruption they been doing so we can get so pissed and riot and and have no more faith in our political parties and beg for something new.. ofcourse the same ones will come to the rescue.. why haven't people all this time learn the game.. america must fall.. and the only way it can is within. so they need us to destroy our own country..these are extremely clever people and know what they're doing.. but by the time ppl realize they were use to create the nwo.. it will be too. late.. but all i can really say is i want no part of the nwo.. but it's inevitable.. it 100% will happen..i know what i know..

[Georgiacopguy]

I bet you are a shitload of fun at parties with a cheery disposition like that.

The NWO wont win, not so long as there are people who oppose it, and resist in any and all ways. But if you wanna roill over and let them cornhole you, that's your business, not ours.

OMG.. you ppl here search so much and find nothing and still don't get it...nothing is accident.. they need america to collapse.. it's bout that time they will show us all the corruption they been doing so we can get so pissed and riot and and have no more faith in our political parties and beg for something new.. ofcourse the same ones will come to the rescue.. why haven't people all this time learn the game.. america must fall.. and the only way it can is within. so they need us to destroy our own country..these are extremely clever people and know what they're doing.. but by the time ppl realize they were use to create the nwo.. it will be too. late.. but all i can really say is i want no part of the nwo.. but it's inevitable.. it 100% will happen..i know what i know..

[Dig]

OMG.. you ppl here search so much and find nothing and still don't get it...nothing is accident.. they need america to collapse.. it's bout that time they will show us all the corruption they been doing so we can get so pissed and riot and and have no more faith in our political parties and beg for something new.. ofcourse the same ones will come to the rescue.. why haven't people all this time learn the game.. america must fall.. and the only way it can is within. so they need us to destroy our own country..these are extremely clever people and know what they're doing.. but by the time ppl realize they were use to create the nwo.. it will be too. late.. but all i can really say is i want no part of the nwo.. but it's inevitable.. it 100% will happen..i know what i know..

Hey chicken little, look up...it ain't falling.

And it will remain not falling as people exponentially wake up to the very fact that 10,000 psychopaths cannot control 300 million wise citizens if they no longer cooperate with an anti-constitutional terrorist organization like the private federal reserve banksters.

[oyashango]

but it's inevitable.. it 100% will happen..i know what i know..

Amazing!  Nostradamus Jr. is on PP board!  Wow, how priviledged we are to meet you!