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Author Topic: BLOWBACK: MSM's attempt to alienate Medina backfires, millions more wake up to 9/11 truth  (Read 29179 times)
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« Reply #160 on: February 23, 2010, 02:13:01 PM »

Putting myself in her shoes .... a candidate running on states rights, ending property taxes and living in the naive world that 9/11 was a cave dweller job for the past eight years, to all of the sudden facing the loss of donors and a lost election because of a seemingly irrelevant (to Texas governor) issue.... I can understand her making that statement our of frustration. We ALL make emotional laced statements that are inconsistent with our peace and prosperity message in dark frustrating moments.

Bottom-line, I'm with ya.... but a trap was set for her AND us. She fell in and now we are ALL falling in by attacking an independent, principled constitutional minded person. Lets try to win her over with reason and facts instead of trashing her like the Beck clowns did.

Divided we are conquered.

Godspeed to her, Texas and all truthers!!!



Well said! Medina is open to facts, IMO. I think she could be won over on this issue, once she is educated on it. However, she has to be in a place of power to do any good once she is won over.

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« Reply #161 on: February 23, 2010, 02:14:56 PM »

She's a status quo turn coat, and a turncoat now will be a turncoat later. She can fight her own fight, I'm out of it. If you guys wanna back her, that's your business.
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« Reply #162 on: February 23, 2010, 02:15:45 PM »

Couldn't have said it better myself. Every rant now against Medina for this simply makes Glenn Beck smile that devilish dimply smile he has.

I bet the NWO poster boy perry loves this stuff...
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« Reply #163 on: February 23, 2010, 02:21:45 PM »

This pisses me off as much as when Beck did what he did. Jones and his exaggerated indignation like Clinton; "How dare you! How dare you!", "I'm despicable?!?".  The stupid host said "despicable" not Medina. He used that word to get a reaction. Why isn't he more pissed at the host who has previously attacked him?? For him to know what Beck is all about and to then do the same thing to Medina from the opposite side is idiotic. She's just a normal person trying to win. She hasn't been elected to office before. Paul is more well spoken because he's been in office for a long time.
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« Reply #164 on: February 23, 2010, 02:24:51 PM »

http://www.wfaa.com/news/texas-news/New-poll-shows-Medina-fading-Perry-ahead--85053197.html

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Posted on February 23, 2010 at 11:20 AM
Updated today at 2:31 PM


DALLAS - Support for Debra Medina in the campaign for the GOP nomination in the race for Texas governor appears to be fading, judging by recent poll results, released by Public Policy Polling.

The results also put Gov. Rick Perry in a substantial lead over Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison.

According to the poll, Perry leads over Hutchinson with 40 percent, Hutchison has 31 percent.

Support for Medina was polled at 20 percent.

The poll suggests that 50 percent of voters believe Medina may support the theory that the federal government was involved in the 9/11 attacks.
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« Reply #165 on: February 23, 2010, 02:26:01 PM »

This pisses me off as much as when Beck did what he did. Jones and his exaggerated indignation like Clinton; "How dare you! How dare you!", "I'm despicable?!?".  The stupid host said "despicable" not Medina. He used that word to get a reaction. Why isn't he more pissed at the host who has previously attacked him?? For him to know what Beck is all about and to then do the same thing to Medina from the opposite side is idiotic. She's just a normal person trying to win. She hasn't been elected to office before. Paul is more well spoken because he's been in office for a long time.

was this the result of a caller?

what happened?
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« Reply #166 on: February 23, 2010, 02:26:11 PM »

WFAA has had it out for her since day 1....

They were the first to mention the 9/11 thing and the ones to hound on it and push Perry the most.

This is ugly/sickening really.

Looks like it'll be 4 more years of Perry at this point.

Still a sliver of hope!!

GET OUT AND VOTE!!!!!
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« Reply #167 on: February 23, 2010, 02:26:55 PM »


I believe in TRUTH, but not jumping to conclusions. There is a difference. Once I investigate it, I may change my opinion. I'll let you know if I do!  Wink

Route24 put up a replay link ... she was blatantly anti-truth. I hate
this too ... but it's her Rubicon, and it may be ours, too.

We are going into this new and important election season ...
every candidate that smacks of an anti-NWO agenda is
going to be hit with 911 and Alex Jones affiliation just like
her ... they MUST meet them HEAD-ON, confront the blood
thirsty SOBs!

Talking Head:  "Mr. So-and-So, you are running for blank with a
constitutionist/ant-Gov agenda ... sir, (giggle) are you one of those
smelly, disgusting TRUTHERS?"

So-and-So: "You damn right I am a 911 truther! Those towers were
brought down by a conspiracy of elements within our own and other
governments, a staged false flag event to bring on this decade long
Age of Terror and gangster New World Order that we have witnessed.
Sir, have you reviewed the tapes of those towers crumbling to dust?".

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« Reply #168 on: February 23, 2010, 02:28:07 PM »

was this the result of a caller?

what happened?

I'm not siding with Jones on this. I understand where he's coming from but, he should know what's really going on here. This is what Beck wanted to happen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WECbW17IvM
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« Reply #169 on: February 23, 2010, 02:29:01 PM »

See how they used this to discredit her when she was gaining momentum! It's the same games being played out at every election when someone OUTSIDE the ESTABLISHMENT picks up support. The ignorant people fall for it every time. Until we stop being stupid and manipulated by the media, NOTHING WILL CHANGE!

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« Reply #170 on: February 23, 2010, 02:31:08 PM »

This pisses me off as much as when Beck did what he did. Jones and his exaggerated indignation like Clinton; "How dare you! How dare you!", "I'm despicable?!?".  The stupid host said "despicable" not Medina. He used that word to get a reaction. Why isn't he more pissed at the host who has previously attacked him?? For him to know what Beck is all about and to then do the same thing to Medina from the opposite side is idiotic. She's just a normal person trying to win. She hasn't been elected to office before. Paul is more well spoken because he's been in office for a long time.

I agree with you Matthew! Medina walked into yet another trap, just like the Beck trap, and got burned again. She will learn from this election the fools she will have to tangle with in our media and elsewhere who act like mad dogs during an election. It's shameful that we can't have an honest election in this Country without this happening! Our politicians prefer to lie, spin and play games rather than tackle the real issues which is what Medina wanted to do. However, she also has to realize the smucks do exist and will attack her at every turn, especially when she has momentum. She is learning some tough lessons right now!

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« Reply #171 on: February 23, 2010, 02:34:00 PM »

I'm thinking someone got to her.  It sure is a quick turnaround, especially when you consider the plane attack in addition to Alex being warned that Medina, himself, and Ron Paul were being targeted.  Some skeletons were about to be let out of her closet if she didn't disown the truth movement.  Once woken up, you don't go back.  She's being pressured. 
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« Reply #172 on: February 23, 2010, 02:34:22 PM »

I'm not siding with Jones on this. I understand where he's coming from but, he should know what's really going on here. This is what Beck wanted to happen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WECbW17IvM

Beck is a puppet for the banksters. He is a charachter assassin, a jackal. This is what the banksters wanted to happen, but I saw how SF Examiner exploiter the 911 issue when it was the radio show host who was the real dick. Well then, perhaps this will be a watershed moment to expose how the banksters still use 9/11 to stop all rational discourse in this country.

We as a country need to cross the rubicon on this one, looks like it is still used for firing cabinet members and alienating constitutional candidates.
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« Reply #173 on: February 23, 2010, 02:34:49 PM »

So a normal person just trying to win should set aside what’s important to them, or a personally held belief, just to look good? They should flip flop in the public eye just to appease people? So you think she will not do the same thing later on 2 years into her campaign when a WAC group shows up at a political rally to ask her about 9/ll and for her support for the truther movement? She would be in reelection mode then, and not give two shits about us, our movement, or what we think.

When a person cannot stay on target, despite it being unpopular to do so, I have nothing for them, because it shows a lack of fortitude, and an inability to be truthful to themselves. If a person cannot be truthful to themselves and who they are, they cannot be truthful to us.
I'm not siding with Jones on this. I understand where he's coming from but, he should know what's really going on here. This is what Beck wanted to happen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WECbW17IvM

 

Beck might have wanted this to happen, and that’s most unfortunate. I hate to think that smug turncoat gets his way at anything. But she has revealed her true colors in my eyes. I’m fairly certain that second interview was arranged by Beck, or that he had some influence in it, because he certainly knew about it, and gleefully played it. But she stupidly played into their hands, once again. I’m sorry, but if we are going ot criticize McCain for flip flopping, we should be critical of her as well, and if we are going to suggest that if McCain makes poor decisions now, he would later, then the same should hold true for her as well. I’ve made my choice about her, and you want to support her. So do so. I’m not trying ot change your mind on that, just explain my position.
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« Reply #174 on: February 23, 2010, 02:35:18 PM »

I'm thinking someone got to her.  It sure is a quick turnaround, especially when you consider the plane attack in addition to Alex being warned that Medina, himself, and Ron Paul were being targeted.  Some skeletons were about to be let out of her closet if she didn't disown the truth movement.  Once woken up, you don't go back.  She's being pressured.  

She hasn't won yet. Isn't it the truthers that are her majority backers? Isn't this political suicide for her?  She has to come out and say SOMETHING to either clarify or defend herself!
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« Reply #175 on: February 23, 2010, 02:35:45 PM »

I'm not siding with Jones on this. I understand where he's coming from but, he should know what's really going on here. This is what Beck wanted to happen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WECbW17IvM

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« Reply #176 on: February 23, 2010, 02:37:32 PM »

Exactly, she was putty in their hands, she sold out, folded, and became exactly like the rest of them  in one fell swoop.


The Sharks smell blood in the water, she's like putty in their hands..
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« Reply #177 on: February 23, 2010, 02:37:50 PM »

I'm thinking someone got to her.  It sure is a quick turnaround, especially when you consider the plane attack in addition to Alex being warned that Medina, himself, and Ron Paul were being targeted.  Some skeletons were about to be let out of her closet if she didn't disown the truth movement.  Once woken up, you don't go back.  She's being pressured. 

So basically what your saying she was blackmailed?  

Roll Eyes

How would she then get ANYTHING positive done in office if she controlled like this, like you are alluding to?
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« Reply #178 on: February 23, 2010, 02:38:12 PM »

I'm thinking someone got to her.  It sure is a quick turnaround, especially when you consider the plane attack in addition to Alex being warned that Medina, himself, and Ron Paul were being targeted.  Some skeletons were about to be let out of her closet if she didn't disown the truth movement.  Once woken up, you don't go back.  She's being pressured. 

very interesting, does seem like the second talk show host did not catch her off guard, but almost had her agree from the beginning to then state on the air a position. very interesting analysis and that could be something aj may be privy to as well.

I still think she kicks the shit out of the genocidal maniac Rick Perry, I would just recommend that everybody smoke 'em if ya got them, because we got a lot of other crap going on besides these Howard Dean moments.
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« Reply #179 on: February 23, 2010, 02:39:57 PM »

She hasn't won yet. Isn't it the truthers that are her majority backers? Isn't this political suicide for her?  She has to come out and say SOMETHING to either clarify or defend herself!


And everytime she comes back and tries to clarify or explain herself, a new commentator in the media just spins it again and makes her look bad again. It's a game people! Someone needs to tell her to stop falling for it and stop allowing these guys to put words in her mouth. Sadly, that will only come with experience of having to deal with these smucks. You see an election IN THEIR MINDS is about lying, winning and then doing as you damn well please when in office. IT'S NEVER ABOUT THE REAL ISSUES, and that's the really disgusting part of our election system!  Angry

I would call it True Patriots who support her!

We are a wide spectrum of beliefs, but one thing we know - THESE BASTARDS ARE STEALING OUR COUNTRY AND THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON, not the lame and lying media games they play during elections. IMO, Medina was intentionally set up, and being new she fell into their trap, and now what do we do also - DEMONIZE HER.

What is it people that you don't get! I'm sick and tired of people focusing on the wrong thing and falling for the very thing they want us to do - BE CONFUSED AND FIGHT AMONG EACH OTHER.

We have a common goal, and that goal is to save our Country. We can't do that if we don't see beneath the games these guys play during elections!

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« Reply #180 on: February 23, 2010, 02:41:15 PM »

She hasn't won yet. Isn't it the truthers that are her majority backers? Isn't this political suicide for her?  She has to come out and say SOMETHING to either clarify or defend herself!


I guess I owe you an apology over this one, sorry. I am not apologizing because II took the wrong side, just apologizing because I trolled you big time rather than engaging in a rational discussion.  But the headline was messed up, I still stick by that. I have created what I think is a happy medium in headlines until we can find out for sure if foreverfree's assumptions are correct.
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« Reply #181 on: February 23, 2010, 02:42:32 PM »

Well they just stole our candidate for starters... They managed to steal another election right out from under our noses.


I would call it True Patriots who support her!

We are a wide spectrum of beliefs, but one thing we know - THESE BASTARDS ARE STEALING OUR COUNTRY AND THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON, not the lame and lying media games they play during elections.
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« Reply #182 on: February 23, 2010, 02:42:50 PM »

I would call it True Patriots who support her!

We are a wide spectrum of beliefs, but one thing we know - THESE BASTARDS ARE STEALING OUR COUNTRY AND THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON, not the lame and lying media games they play during elections.

I do not think anyone should not support her because of this, but I do agree that an AJ/Medina interview should be done ASAP.
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« Reply #183 on: February 23, 2010, 02:43:00 PM »

She is on CNN now!
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« Reply #184 on: February 23, 2010, 02:43:32 PM »

I guess I owe you an apology over this one, sorry. I am not apologizing because II took the wrong side, just apologizing because I trolled you big time rather than engaging in a rational discussion.  But the headline was messed up, I still stick by that. I have created what I think is a happy medium in headlines until we can find out for sure if foreverfree's assumptions are correct.

Thanks for the fair headline Sane.
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« Reply #185 on: February 23, 2010, 02:43:45 PM »

She says she is not a truther and do not consider herself a truther.
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« Reply #186 on: February 23, 2010, 02:44:12 PM »

TUNE IN!  She's trying to play both sides and the Reporter is eating her alive.
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« Reply #187 on: February 23, 2010, 02:44:57 PM »

Well they just stole our candidate for starters... They managed to steal another election right out from under our noses.



I would like to see more facts about this, but AJ's offense to it deseves at least clarification. I mean, this is small potatos compared to what is to come.
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« Reply #188 on: February 23, 2010, 02:45:50 PM »

is she calling us all vile pigs for questioning our government?
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« Reply #189 on: February 23, 2010, 02:45:52 PM »

She says she does not believe the government had anything to do with 911. She believes they were Muslim terrorists. She says she believes that there are questions raised by the Commission should be investiagted. She is flip-flopping right now. Rick Snachez is nailing her to the wall, and she refuses to answer the questions exactly.
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« Reply #190 on: February 23, 2010, 02:47:21 PM »

She says she is not a truther and do not consider herself a truther.

and I got no problem with that, but I do have a problem with an obvious Bilderberg talk show host being able to corner her so easily when she could have simply clarified (as Ron Paul always does)..."I do not agree with that, but people have a right to their opinions and if I thought everyone whose opinion I did not agree with should be alienated I would not have accepted this interview on this network" [I am paraphrasing but he said this when interviewed while on FOX]
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« Reply #191 on: February 23, 2010, 02:48:25 PM »

SHE IS ON CNN NOW FOLKS!
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« Reply #192 on: February 23, 2010, 02:48:25 PM »

First Scott Brown shows his true colors, and now this? Angry
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« Reply #193 on: February 23, 2010, 02:49:35 PM »

SHE IS ON CNN NOW FOLKS!

well most of us threw out our TV's, so you are gonna have to give us play by play
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« Reply #194 on: February 23, 2010, 02:49:40 PM »

I do not think anyone should not support her because of this, but I do agree that an AJ/Medina interview should be done ASAP.


I hope AJ will calm down on this, and have her on to help educate her. She is in a trap, and someone with some decency needs to help her out of it.
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« Reply #195 on: February 23, 2010, 02:52:09 PM »

She says she does not believe the government had anything to do with 911. She believes they were Muslim terrorists. She says she believes that there are questions raised by the Commission should be investiagted. She is flip-flopping right now. Rick Snachez is nailing her to the wall, and she refuses to answer the questions exactly.

My god, she's going from the frying pan to the fire by going on Rick Sanchez. He's another smuck. Geesh, give her another adviser please.


These people always use hot button issue to sidetrack people during elections.  We need to focus on the priorities to take our country back, and dealing with hot button issues in a race is only used for one purpose - TO GAIN OR LOSE VOTES. This is all a distraction from the REAL ISSUES that should be talked about in these campaigns. Note that Medina started talking about real issues, when the other two wanted to snip at each other. Now the media has been successful (in their sick way) of derailing the talks about real issues to things that divide us. They do it everytime, and have succeeded once again. AND WE SUCKED INTO IT ONCE AGAIN ALSO.

Folks, the list of issues that need to be addressed is a mile long, a real investigation of 911 is on that list, but at this moment in time and with what we have to work with in Washington and all over our Country, that is not going to be priority right now, so we need to come up with another TOP PRIORITY for our list. So what is that to you? IMO

1) Stopping what is happening at the local level in the States to derail our Republic. We must take our country back STATE BY STATE and at that level.

2) We must keep exposing the bankers for the frauds they are and for looting our treasury while pretending to be the "FIXERS". (AUDIT THE FED & KEEP IT IN THE LIMELIGHT)

3) Get GOOD PEOPLE in places of government at all levels. (Yes, a good person will make mistakes because they're not use to playing the stupid political games, but we have to give them a chance.)

4) Keep watching legislation and what our Congressmen are trying to pass, and speak out.

You add your own! This calls for multitasking. It's not about one issue, but 1,000s actually! We can't deal with them all right now, but in order of necessity!

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« Reply #196 on: February 23, 2010, 02:52:38 PM »


I hope AJ will calm down on this, and have her on to help educate her. She is in a trap, and someone with some decency needs to help her out of it.

well that is how I see it, but foreverfree's concerns should be laid to rest for all of us. IMO she is innocent until proven guilty, but her recent actions definitely warrant an AJ conversation as he has stuck himself into this soup.
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« Reply #197 on: February 23, 2010, 02:52:59 PM »

Well, it's apparent, Ms. Medina has changed her position on whether people have a right to question the government on it's story of 9/11.. I'm trying to find the news article that Alex quoted today and can't find it, could someone find it? thanks
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« Reply #198 on: February 23, 2010, 02:54:35 PM »

My god, she's going from the frying pan to the fire by going on Rick Sanchez. He's another smuck. Geesh, give her another adviser please.

just an fyi, almost all of these peoplewho advise candidates are on the take. RP's campaign must be one of the first in recent American history to not have these schmucks. Or at least he knew enough not to take their advice when it was counterproductive.
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« Reply #199 on: February 23, 2010, 02:55:30 PM »

She cannot afford another flip flop if she hopes ot be taken seriously at this point. She may even attempt to distance herself from people like Alex who might 'hurt' her election ability.

After her CNN interview, I'm also confident they got to her. She once again let the host nail her to the wall, and denied us again. I mean if Alex could talk to her, on a personal level, and get her to wake up and at least admit to herself what she believes, that would be great, but the damage is done, peopel feel alienated. Now all she can do is damage control, and try to salvage those who are alienated if she can.

...and to whoever threw out the True patriots bullshit ...I'll have you f**king know I am a patriot, but I have a low ass tolerance for political bullshit. Keyboard candyass.



I hope AJ will calm down on this, and have her on to help educate her. She is in a trap, and someone with some decency needs to help her out of it.
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