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Glenn & Mark: I am sorry I gave you the wrong impression of my stand on 911 Truth. I am not a member of 911 Truth but I have numerous friends and supporters who are. They are not dangerous people, they are definitely not despicable people. They are people who are simply seeking the whole truth about the events on that terrible day. Numerous others, including Palin and Beck are also on record saying questions need to be answered.
Americans have a right to question their government in any way and at any time, and I fully support that right and the people who exercise it. I would have no fear of having 911 Truthers on my staff if they were otherwise qualified and anyone who thinks that people seeking truth can somehow pose a danger to those in office .. well, you need to re-examine your own beliefs and principals. Now let's get back to discussing Texas.
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Guys.... we're NOT going to get a 9/11 truther to run for office if we sit here on the forums complaining about a good 'state's rights' candidate. Do I like the idea that Medina (now) and Dr Paul both scorn scientific evidence proving the 9/11 official story is a complete sham? - Absolutely NOT. But I do want constitutionally minded folks representing 'we the people'. Medina and Dr Paul are at least that. And this isn't a 'lesser evil' argument. If we can get rid of property taxes, income taxes and drug prohibition via constitutional minded (albeit non-truther) folks ... the fuel for the MIC / CIA / FED is gone. Freedom is restored. Isn't that what we want? A 9/11 truther candidate is NOT going to fall from the sky to save us. If it is to be, it is up to me. Divided we are conquered!!! |
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So when the kitchen gets too hot, she bolts. Glad I didn't bother to early vote for her, never did like the fact that I would have to ask for a republatard ballet.
I feel bad for Alex and the rest of us TRUTHERS.
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Texas Republican gubernatorial candidate Debra Medina speaks during a news conference Friday, Feb. 12, 2010 in Houston. Republican gubernatorial candidate Debra Medina is continuing to backpedal from remarks that she has questions whether the U.S. government was involved in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.
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So when the kitchen gets too hot, she bolts. Glad I didn't bother to early vote for her, never did like the fact that I would have to ask for a republatard ballet.
I feel bad for Alex and the rest of us TRUTHERS.
Shit last week it was finding out Dr. Bill Deagle was a turncoat, now Medina, who's next?
Guys.... we're NOT going to get a 9/11 truther to run for office if we sit here on the forums complaining about a good 'state's rights' candidate. Do I like the idea that Medina (now) and Dr Paul both scorn scientific evidence proving the 9/11 official story is a complete sham? - Absolutely NOT. But I do want constitutionally minded folks representing 'we the people'. Medina and Dr Paul are at least that. And this isn't a 'lesser evil' argument. If we can get rid of property taxes, income taxes and drug prohibition via constitutional minded (albeit non-truther) folks ... the fuel for the MIC / CIA / FED is gone. Freedom is restored. Isn't that what we want? A 9/11 truther candidate is NOT going to fall from the sky to save us. If it is to be, it is up to me. Divided we are conquered!!! |
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I've been listening/watching the live show, and this is REALLY eating Alex up...
It's sad really, but I feel the same way...We've been betrayed.
Whether she's just politicking or not, there is NO excuse for her to agree with such a statement by that snake radio show host.
She's now effectively alienated herself from the 9/11 "trusters" AND the 9/11 "truthers". Whoever advised her to do a 180 on this issue has effectively killed her chances...but it's her fault for doing so ultimately.
Sorry Texas...looks like another term for Perry. We need to back REAL candidates like Paul, Schiff, and Kokesh who actually say what they mean and mean what they say...Medina has proven to be otherwise.
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« Reply #52 on: February 23, 2010, 11:50:56 AM » |
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We have to remember that Ron Paul isn't a real 911 Truther either, and we respect him.
I think the jury is out on this. Let's not jump to conclusions just yet! There are many in politics that don't like to address the 911 issue. They have so many other topics too address right now. Even though 911 is important to us, there are many more issues that need addressing right now - THE FINANCIAL SCAMS, THE TAKEOVER OF OUR COUNTRY and our STATES. Everyone can't be a master on all topics. There are too many to deal with.
I think this may be a strategy of hers to not turn off voters who don't understand what happened on 911 and who flat out reject it.
I'm not going to jump to this conclusion just yet!
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She deserves to burn in hell for this. F*CK all these FAKE defenders of freedom who defend the terrorist industrial complex; SAIC, Nice Systems, NARUS, Booz Allen Hamilton, MITRE, Boeing, Teledyne Ryan, Raytheon, Electronic Data Systems, IBM, Ilog, Anser, NRO, NIMA/NGA, Computer Sciences Corporation, Northrup Grumman, Verint, Comverse Infosys, Amdocs, Qinetiq, NSA, CIA, Blackwater, SPAWAR, Naval Postgraduate School, Naval Surface Warfare Center, EODT, Triple Canopy, Aegis, RAND, Carnegie Mellon, GMU, GWU, FEMA, DHS, Northcom, Africom, DISA, DIA, DTRA, USJFCOM, AFRL, Ptech (and all of it's clients/renamed versions of its former self) not named, and everyone else that is too long to list.
Hey Medina, maybe you should learn about the Ptech investigation that Chertoff shut down in 2002, and ask yourself-WHY. Medina is a f*cking terrorist now because she is defending the real terrorists.
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We have to remember that Ron Paul isn't a real 911 Truther either, and we respect him.
I think the jury is out on this. Let's not jump to conclusions just yet!
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We have to remember that Ron Paul isn't a real 911 Truther either, and we respect him.
I think the jury is out on this. Let's not jump to conclusions just yet!
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We have to remember that Ron Paul isn't a real 911 Truther either, and we respect him.
I think the jury is out on this. Let's not jump to conclusions just yet!
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« Reply #58 on: February 23, 2010, 11:54:56 AM » |
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As Alex has stated on the broadcast that Debra Medina doesn't have to agree with 9/11 truth or be a truther herself so long as she keeps her integrity. However, she betrayed the major base of her support by flip-flopping from supporting a new 9/11 investigation to calling 9/11 truth "despicable". She has compromised her integrity by throwing herself in with the enemies of the Republic. Alex has also mentioned that we need to contact her/email her and remind her where her support comes from and demand an apology. Throw us under the bus Medina? NO! We will throw you out with the bathwater for your despicable statements you made against us.  |
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Paul doesn't buy the gov version though remember.
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« Reply #60 on: February 23, 2010, 11:55:18 AM » |
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Her last name is Medina. We gave her the benefit of the doubt. She proved herself to be like the rest.
Is she married to an Hispanic man? Don't you think she would go along with the amnesty and letting illegals in Texas if she were in power? IDK
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We have to remember that Ron Paul isn't a real 911 Truther either, and we respect him.
I think the jury is out on this. Let's not jump to conclusions just yet! There are many in politics that don't like to address the 911 issue. They have so many other topics too address right now. Even though 911 is important to us, there are many more issues that need addressing right now - THE FINANCIAL SCAMS, THE TAKEOVER OF OUR COUNTRY and our STATES. Everyone can't be a master on all topics. There are too many to deal with.
I think this may be a strategy of hers to not turn off voters who don't understand what happened on 911 and who flat out reject it.
I'm not going to jump to this conclusion just yet!
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As Alex has stated on the broadcast, Debra Medina doesn't have to agree with 9/11 truth or be a truther herself. However, she betrayed the major base of her support by flip-flopping from supporting a new 9/11 investigation to calling 9/11 truth "despicable". She has compromised her integrity by throwing herself in with the enemies of the Republic. Alex has also mentioned that we need to contact her/email her and remind her where her support comes from and demand an apology. Throw us under the bus Medina? NO! We will throw you out with the bathwater for your despicable statements you made against us. Exactly... I hope the people of Texas don't take this lying down! |
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I'm not saying this isn't an issue. It needs to be looked into. I'm just not going to accept this as the final word just yet.
That's fine... I would ALSO accept an apology and would support her once more if she made a public statement apologizing for calling me, and almost everyone else on this forum "despicable". But until then, I've heard the audio of what was said, and what she emphatically agreed with, and that is enough for me to withdraw my support for the time being. Character and integrity means EVERYTHING! |
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Guys, Guys..... We must worship Madina. Remember if you slander our goddess Madina, you are a Sustien Troll. If you don't like Madina saying we are "dispicable", then you are just creating infighting and you are a Sustein Troll. Aint that right Sane? Ron Paul is cool because he does tip his hat to us often, but this Madina bitch just threw up a big middle finger to everyone in this forum..... |
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Here is what Medina should say:
Glenn & Mark: I am sorry I gave you the wrong impression of my stand on 911 Truth. I am not a member of 911 Truth but I have numerous friends and supporters who are. They are not dangerous people, they are definitely not despicable people. They are people who are simply seeking the whole truth about the events on that terrible day. Numerous others, including Palin and Beck are also on record saying questions need to be answered.
Americans have a right to question their government in any way and at any time, and I fully support that right and the people who exercise it. I would have no fear of having 911 Truthers on my staff if they were otherwise qualified and anyone who thinks that people seeking truth can somehow pose a danger to those in office .. well, you need to re-examine your own beliefs and principals. Now let's get back to discussing Texas.
Word! By agreeing that we are all dangerous nuts and not patriots, then she has condemned us in the eye of the general public and has put others on notice who might have been thinking about taking another look at the official gov lies. Fine, now we know the truth instead of when she's ordering us into the FEMA camps. |
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I don't blame her honestly. A couple of intellectuals on the internet aren't going to get her elected. Even though it is painfully obvious to US that the official story is incorrect, this is an opportunity to get a Ron Paul candidate into the governorship. She is turning face on the 9/11 truth issue because it is precisely the thing that will kill her campaign. Let's be honest, people in Texas aren't the most open minded and aren't going to support a 9/11 truther. You say that A.J. has withdrawn his support for her? Well that seems like a FANTASTIC IDEA! (Sarcasm) Who else is he going to vote for? Perry??? Hutchinson??? I wasn't even going to vote until I saw her platform. She is pro FREEDOM. Finally a candidate who can give us a little bit of freedom back instead of simply taking more away and AJ throws her under the bus for trying to save her campaign from Glenn Beck. We don't live in a perfect world. In a perfect world, we would have 50 Ron Pauls in office, the REAL criminals of 9/11 hung high from a tree long ago, there would be no false income tax or Federal Reserve. I GET THAT. But since we don't live in a perfect world, she is the most perfect candidate with a REAL chance to get elected I have seen in my life time here in Texas and that is why I am voting for her. If you withdraw your vote over her turn face over 9/11 then you are a damned fool.   Then I, Alex Jones, and many others on this forum are "damned fools". I REFUSE to vote or support the lesser of the evils anymore. She has flip-flopped and changed her position DRASTICALLY, now alienating herself from her base! Not only that, insulting us as well... I don't feel very foolish for withdrawing my support at all. |
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I don't blame her honestly. A couple of intellectuals on the internet aren't going to get her elected. Even though it is painfully obvious to US that the official story is incorrect, this is an opportunity to get a Ron Paul candidate into the governorship. She is turning face on the 9/11 truth issue because it is precisely the thing that will kill her campaign. Let's be honest, people in Texas aren't the most open minded and aren't going to support a 9/11 truther. You say that A.J. has withdrawn his support for her? Well that seems like a FANTASTIC IDEA! (Sarcasm) Who else is he going to vote for? Perry??? Hutchinson??? I wasn't even going to vote until I saw her platform. She is pro FREEDOM. Finally a candidate who can give us a little bit of freedom back instead of simply taking more away and AJ throws her under the bus for trying to save her campaign from Glenn Beck. We don't live in a perfect world. In a perfect world, we would have 50 Ron Pauls in office, the REAL criminals of 9/11 hung high from a tree long ago, there would be no false income tax or Federal Reserve. I GET THAT. But since we don't live in a perfect world, she is the most perfect candidate with a REAL chance to get elected I have seen in my life time here in Texas and that is why I am voting for her. If you withdraw your vote over her turn face over 9/11 then you are a damned fool. |
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That's fine...
I would ALSO accept an apology and would support her once more if she made a public statement apologizing for calling me, and almost everyone else on this forum "despicable".
But until then, I've heard the audio of what was said, and what she emphatically agreed with, and that is enough for me to withdraw my support for the time being.
Character and integrity means EVERYTHING!
I don't think Medina has spent time looking into all we know about 911. She has been focused on other issues. So you can't accuse her of anything if she's not educated on the issues! I personally believe we need a new investigation of 911, and it's because i've taken the time to look into the many questions. Remember what she said earlier that people have the right to question things. |
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I don't think Medina has spent time looking into all we know about 911. She has been focused on other issues. So you can't accuse her of anything if she's not educated on the issues!
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Then I, Alex Jones, and many others on this forum are "damned fools".
I REFUSE to vote or support the lesser of the evils anymore. She has flip-flopped and changed her position DRASTICALLY, now alienating herself from her base!
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