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« on: February 20, 2010, 12:24:15 PM »

Joe Stack's Alleged Manifesto in Audio format:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NivOMiI2AAo
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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2010, 12:44:24 PM »


ANALYSIS:


I read this manifesto several times yesterday and like many others here on this forum, I felt it lacked the emotion of the downtrodden and was written for people who want a violent revolution (the government) and most likely written by the Problem-Reaction-Solution government employee drones of the alphabet soup agencies. Hearing it spoken gave me chills. But I still feel it lacks the emotion that would bring a man to his brink. He talked about his property being taken but NOT his ability to CARE for his family or loved ones or even his passions (flying, music, etc). Maybe he had enough with his family too? Maybe his audience was the like minded disgruntled and the IRS.

I'm still split on whether this was an inside job or a guy who had enough. The disproportionate damage to the building, the fire trucks across the street, almost NO casualties, the FBI videotaping the screen within seconds, NO videotapes released showing the crash, NO Joe Stack body found, who benefits, etc, give much sway to the inside job notion. I guess deep down I want it to be real. I like the idea of the 'crash heard round the world'. I like the idea that NOT every American is passively accepting slavery. I like the idea someone did what I have NO courage to do myself. I like the idea that the IRS got a well deserved early return. I like the idea someone looked into the eyes of the devil (IRS/government) and said you may take a pound of flesh but doing so I hope to fuel a revolution in the hearts and minds of the middle class against you evil banking class sickos. I like the idea of a guy who finally said NO MORE.

(PS: I do feel awful for the family he left behind. That I can't connect with on any level.)
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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2010, 12:50:59 PM »

Hey Illuminazi Banksters...we know the whole "manifesto" bullshit. Just because a patsy leaves a "manifesto" does not mean he can defy the laws of physics...just like the 9/11 patsies, the 7/7 patsies, the Sirhan Sirhan patsy, the Lee Harvey Oswald patsy, the Cho patsy, the Mumbai patsies, the Jiverly Voong patsy, and the Fort Hood patsy.

EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS IS SENSATIONALISM FOR SHOCKING AND AWE-ING THE VICTIMS (ALL OF US) INTO BELIEVING THAT THE LAWS OF PHYSICS WERE SUSPENDED DURING AN NRO/CIA FALSE FLAG ATTACK.

EVERYBODY KNOWS!
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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2010, 12:55:20 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2010, 01:28:11 PM »

Seriously, who's idea was it to photoshop "IRS Tyranny Response Team" onto that plane?

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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2010, 01:28:37 PM »

those who have been here long enough know I don't get mu suspicians raised. This manifesto imediately raised my suspicians. the timing, the convenience, the lack of specifics reguarding his actions.
 Does anyone know where the writing was first uploaded to and in what format was it uploaded in?
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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2010, 01:30:42 PM »

.... Just because a patsy leaves a "manifesto" does not mean he can defy the laws of physics...just like the 9/11 patsies, the 7/7 patsies, the Sirhan Sirhan patsy, the Lee Harvey Oswald patsy, the Cho patsy, the Mumbai patsies, the Jiverly Voong patsy, and the Fort Hood patsy.

Please could you explain by what you mean with "he can defy the laws of physics"? I missed that one.

Which particular law of physics were defied in the Joe Stack case?
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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2010, 01:31:36 PM »

Thx for the audio!

I'm also not ruling out that this could be just another psyop. One reason why I think this, is the following quote in his letter. It seems too convenient: (See letter below near the end of ltr.)
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=160316.msg952123;topicseen#msg952123

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"Sadly, though I spent my entire life trying to believe it wasn’t so, but violence not only is the answer, it is the only answer."


Yes, I feel sorry for Stack in thinking that the only way out was to kill himself, while possibly doing the same to his innocent victims. However, he is very wrong in the statement he made above!

This is not what the True Patriot movement is about, and anyone who tells you that is lying! The MSM will use this event for their purposes, as is already being done, and to further demonize the Patriot Movement.

Imo, the jury is still out as to whether or not this was a single distraught individual acting out, or that there's much more behind it which those behind the destruction of America can use for further tyranny! Time will tell as the facts come out!


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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2010, 01:35:22 PM »

Please could you explain by what you mean with "he can defy the laws of physics"? I missed that one.

Which particular law of physics were defied in the Joe Stack case?

I think he probably means the way his small plane incited a huge towering inferno. Or maybe Neil Bush and the Mossad were running security at the IRS building.
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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2010, 02:26:55 PM »

this reporter says theres a time discrepancy and want to know "who did this and how" then theres some hesitation and confusion. he then says his house blew up 30 before the plane hit, and its only a 6 min flight. and the mentions him possibly having a "remote detonator"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVDZ26mjeDY&feature=SeriesPlayList&p=9DA388D47FDD5ABA
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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2010, 02:33:02 PM »

oops what he was actually saying is.. it takes 30min+ to drive to the airport alone but his house blew up 35 min before he hit. so it would be impossible for him to blow up his house, haul ass to the airport, then haul ass to the irs. so there saying he may have has a remote detonator
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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2010, 02:37:17 PM »

oops what he was actually saying is.. it takes 30min+ to drive to the airport alone but his house blew up 35 min before he hit. so it would be impossible for him to blow up his house, haul ass to the airport, then haul ass to the irs. so there saying he may have has a remote detonator
30 minutes to drive to the airport, but how long to get the plane strarted, flight check, take off and fly to the Echelon building?
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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2010, 02:39:19 PM »

30 minutes to drive to the airport, but how long to get the plane strarted, flight check, take off and fly to the Echelon building?

well assuming he did it...

i hardly think hes going to go through pre flight by the book considering he was planning to crash it into a building
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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2010, 02:45:26 PM »

well assuming he did it...

i hardly think hes going to go through pre flight by the book considering he was planning to crash it into a building
lol, probably not an extensive one anyways..but it still takes a bit to get a plane started taxi'd and take off, it isnt quite like jumping in your car and backing it out of the driveway.be interesting though to see on a map the areas invoved for a distance reference for the whole round trip
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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2010, 02:53:13 PM »

this reporter says theres a time discrepancy and want to know "who did this and how" then theres some hesitation and confusion. he then says his house blew up 30 before the plane hit, and its only a 6 min flight. and the mentions him possibly having a "remote detonator"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVDZ26mjeDY&feature=SeriesPlayList&p=9DA388D47FDD5ABA

Have the same issue - Time table doesn't make sense.

11:36 a.m.: A small airplane crashed into a building in Austin, Texas, Thursday morning, according to Lynn Lundsford of the Federal Aviation Administration.

Allegedly his wife checked on the hangar: "They checked before ten o'clock. His plane is gone. His car is at the hangar in Round Rock."

Round Rock is located about 25 miles north of the crash site so it takes 6 Minutes to fly the plane from the hangar to the IRS Building.

Still unsolved question in my mind is that if she checked on the hangar before 10:00 and the plane went in at 11:36 a.m. were did he fly around for almost 2 hours?

(BTW for numerologists 3+6 = 9 -> 11.9 or 911)

See: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=160295.msg953216#msg953216
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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2010, 03:05:40 PM »

Witnesses react to plane crash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYRanCItRqs&feature=SeriesPlayList&p=9DA388D47FDD5ABA

I could be wrong but the Guy with the eye patch could well be a Government OP talking point just like with 911 and the failure structure statements.

"Probably a disgruntled taxpayer" How could he know?

And the way he says it with a sort of smile on his face enjoying his mischievous job.

This guy means shit of what he says. "It's despicable" grin grin grin!

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« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2010, 03:22:35 PM »

they knew it would happen for sure.


But i dont think its 'staged' so to speak, i think he did it.

More over, i think those 'chunks of shit at the top', are getting more than they bargained for.


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« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2010, 06:18:49 PM »

Witnesses react to plane crash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYRanCItRqs&feature=SeriesPlayList&p=9DA388D47FDD5ABA

I could be wrong but the Guy with the eye patch could well be a Government OP talking point just like with 911 and the failure structure statements.

"Probably a disgruntled taxpayer" How could he know?

And the way he says it with a sort of smile on his face enjoying his mischievous job.

This guy means shit of what he says. "It's despicable" grin grin grin!



Eye patch?

He works for an intelligence agency.

[Memories of the CIA propaganda TV series "Air Wolf"]
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« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2010, 06:20:07 PM »

Eye patch?

He works for an intelligence agency.

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« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2010, 06:37:49 PM »

The manifesto is absolutely proof positive of a false flag.

This guy had intelligence of 9/11, Homeland Security, and the technology to GPS remote control planes.

So he is upset with the government?

So then he blows the whistle like anyone else would do right? You know like Ted Gunderson, William Cooper, Chip Tatum, Sibel Edmonds, Indira Singh, Michael R, etc. etc?

Right?

I mean here is a guy that if he was truly upset at the government and wanted less central control would know what to do. He would know that enacting NRO wargames would create more central power. He would know that the NRO even planned for these scenarios and prayed for them to happen. He would know that whoever the patsy was would have evidence planted on him to target a whole new group of Bilderberg targets.

So what does he do...

THE EXACT THING THAT HE WOULD NOT DO IF HE TRULY WAS ANGRY AT THE GOVERNMENT.

Yeah, that makes sense.

It is like the Bilderberg pieces of shit are not even trying.

EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS WAS A FALSE FLAG, YOU HOUSE OF CARDS IS IMPLODING QUICKER THAN BUILDING 7 EXACTLY 23 MINUTES AFTER THE BBC REPORTED IT WOULD.
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« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2010, 06:41:04 PM »

Why are we believing that this online suicide letter is even real?  The odds are incredibly more in favor that it is faked.  Who writes a suicide letter online?  I don't believe any of this and just because the media stops talking about it doesn't mean it isn't a false flag attack.  I talked with every detective that I know and they all have never seen a suicide note typed, they all have been hand-written.  Suicide notes that were typed were all proved to be faked later on.  Let's talk about the genuineness about this manifesto.
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« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2010, 06:03:07 AM »

Why are we believing that this online suicide letter is even real?  The odds are incredibly more in favor that it is faked.  Who writes a suicide letter online?  I don't believe any of this and just because the media stops talking about it doesn't mean it isn't a false flag attack.  I talked with every detective that I know and they all have never seen a suicide note typed, they all have been hand-written.  Suicide notes that were typed were all proved to be faked later on.  Let's talk about the genuineness about this manifesto.

AJ has stated that a false flag is always accompanied by a media blitz and that this one does not have a similar blitz. He also said the reason that it does not have a similar blitz could be because this false flag was deconstructed in light speed. I mean this is AJ's backyard, he knows everybody and they know he stands up for the common police officer, fbi agent, even irs agent who are all slaves to Bilderberg bankster elite psychopaths. Some of the most instrumental members of the End the Fed movement are ex-IRS agents.

Speaking of which...

WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THE TERRORISM AGAINST IRS AGENT SHERRY JACKSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2010, 08:32:49 AM »

Still the question arises,

""HMM strange how this little plane did so much damage but when the plane hit a building in tampa hardly anything happened to it. wtf

January 7, 2002 Posted: 1:07 PM EST (180

15-year-old boy who crashed a Cessna into a Tampa office building indicated he supported Osama bin Laden and that the act was deliberate, authorities say.""

http://www.shtfmilitia.com/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=4962


And the hazmat  and fire dept were right across the street
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« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2010, 08:36:30 AM »

Still the question arises,

""HMM strange how this little plane did so much damage but when the plane hit a building in tampa hardly anything happened to it. wtf

January 7, 2002 Posted: 1:07 PM EST (180

15-year-old boy who crashed a Cessna into a Tampa office building indicated he supported Osama bin Laden and that the act was deliberate, authorities say.""

http://www.shtfmilitia.com/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=4962


And the hazmat  and fire dept were right across the street

Can anyone post side by side pictures of the damage of the two incidents?
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« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2010, 08:41:19 AM »

Can anyone post side by side pictures of the damage of the two incidents?
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« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2010, 09:25:40 AM »

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If that is not 100% proof of a false flag, then WTF is?
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« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2010, 09:37:45 AM »

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