Austin, TX False Flag NRO "Plane into Building" drill comes to life

[Satyagraha]

Feb 20, 2010 2:16 pm US/Pacific
Facebook Pulls Radio Host's Tribute To Pilot
http://cbs13.com/national/joe.stack.facebook.2.1508041.html

SYRACUSE, N.Y. (CBS) ―

Facebook has banned a New York radio host's tribute page for Joe Stack, the pilot who rammed his small plane into a federal building in Austin, Texas because he was angry at the Internal Revenue Service.

Jon Alvarez, host of a conservative talk program on WFBL AM 1390 in Syracuse, said he put the page up Thursday just hours after the attack, CBS station WCBS-TV reports.

The crash killed Stack and a worker in the building.

Alvarez tells The Post-Standard newspaper in Syracuse that he felt Stack had made "a sacrifice to others who were having problems with the IRS."

Facebook had yanked the site by Friday.

It sent Alvarez a note saying it didn't allow pages that are hateful or threatening.

After 9/11, little has been done to guard against attacks with smaller planes. "It's a big gap," said R. William Johnstone, an aviation security consultant and former staff member of the commission that investigated the Sept. 11 attacks. "It wouldn't take much, even a minor incident involving two simultaneously attacking planes, to inflict enough damage to set off alarm bells and do some serious harm to the economy and national psyche."

The suburban Georgetown Municipal Airport that pilot Joe Stack entered hours before his airborne attack in nearby Austin had the casual atmosphere of a sleepy parking garage. Pilots were not subject to baggage checks, metal detector scans or pat-downs. And they are usually not required to file flight plans.

"How are they going to stop it? This guy had a hangar, and he had access to the airport," said Beth Ann Jenkins, president of Pilot's Choice, a flight school near where Stack kept his Piper.

Travis McLain, manager of the airport, said: "I don't know of a rule or regulation or safety precaution that could have prevented what happened yesterday."

The easy access and lack of security are the result of years of debate — and stalemate — over how much of a threat small aircraft pose as terror weapons and how they could be regulated without stifling commerce and pilot freedom.

While the airlines quickly accepted tougher security after Sept. 11, the general aviation industry, which includes everything from privately owned propeller-driven planes to large corporate jets, have aggressively fought new measures.

The proposed rules would require that operators of medium and large general-aviation aircraft demonstrate that flight crews have undergone a criminal background check. They would also be required to verify passengers are not on the no-fly lists already used by large airlines.

Private pilots fly approximately 200,000 small and medium-size planes in the U.S., using 19,000 airports, most of them small. The planes' owners insist the aircraft have nothing in common with airliners but the sky.

"I don't see a gaping security hole here," said Tom Walsh, an aviation security consultant. "In terms of aviation security, there are much bigger fish to fry than worrying about small aircraft."

He said most would-be terrorists would draw the same conclusion — that tiny aircraft don't pack a big enough punch.

Planes like Stack's weigh just a few thousands pounds and carry no more than 100 gallons of fuel, he noted. A Boeing 767 weighs 400,000 pounds and carries up to 25,000 gallons of fuel.

Walsh and other general aviation advocates argue that stringent security and bureaucracy would deter recreational fliers and slow down a vibrant, multibillion-dollar general aviation industry, causing economic damage.

"What it comes down to is that the cure could be worse than the disease," he said.

"There was no way to impose one overall security structure that would fit every general aviation airport's needs," said AOPA spokesman Chris Dancy. The association has about 400,000 members.

At the Georgetown airport, where 240 small aircraft are based, manager McLain said she hopes Stack's suicidal attack doesn't lead to an overreaction.

"I would hope that common sense and cooler heads would prevail," McLain said.
 
(© 2010 CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. The Associated Press contributed to this report.)

[Triadtropz]

So now the story is that Stack allegedly removed seats and placed a fuel drum into his plane in order to maximize the damage.

Why haven't those seats been recovered?
How come no one saw him "carry" the fuel drum (as much as it weighs)?
Again, WHERE ARE THE FLIGHT PLANS?  Where are the tower communication recordings?
Why wasn't the FAA notified and why weren't F-16s immediately scrambled into the air?
WHERE IS THE SECURITY FOOTAGE SHOWING HIM HITTING THE BUILDING?

1. how do you know the seat wasn't recovered? 2. a 50 gal drum would weigh 400 pds, good point.3 small planes don't have to file flight plans 4. their was no tower just an airstrip..

[jofortruth]

Joe Stack’s Family Doubt Suicide Note Was Written By Him
http://www.prisonplanet.com/joe-stacks-family-doubt-suicide-note-was-written-by-him.html

[chris jones]

Hi S.
Each and every time we get hit with a F.F. the Mossad Hymnal rings in my ears "By way of deception".
No rant!!

[Apolitical Blues]

It could be considered a good thing if, this plane was flown into the building in outrage and utter frustration. We can suspend that illusion with the discovery of his involvement with organizations/companies associated with 9/11. The freaks from Zion can be expected to act out in even more frequent and dangerously provocative fashion. Their lame sophistry is coming unglued, people sense their involvement in more and more of the worlds turmoil.

It would seem that beans, bullets and bandages come before gold/silver but, we must have them all. Not wanting to sound like a Boy Scout but, be prepared folks this years outlook is not good. Zionists are intent on more war for us all.


Semper Fi.

[oyashango]

ANY LINKS ON EVIDENCE THAT THEY FOUND THE FRIKKIN BODY!?

[HYDROGENPAL]

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ANY LINKS ON EVIDENCE THAT THEY FOUND THE FRIKKIN BODY!?

nothing yet

[bodygaurd]

2. a 50 gal drum would weigh 400 pds, good point.

Only about 50 when it's empty. Just put it in the plane and fill it up.

[Pierce2378]

So where is everyone on this?  Still leaning false flag.  As the information continues to come out, it smells more and more like one and an EPIC FAIL if so. 

[hal 9000]

I don't know for sure, but I lean toward it being an op. The main questions are if he was programmed to do it, or if he even flew the plane into the building at all. For all we know at this juncture, it is entirely possible that the plane was remote controlled into the building after Stack's dead body was put on board. In fact, we don't really know if they positively identified his body in the wreckage. Too many suspicious circumstances around the event.

[Dig]

Feb 20, 2010 2:16 pm US/Pacific
Facebook Pulls Radio Host's Tribute To Pilot
http://cbs13.com/national/joe.stack.facebook.2.1508041.html

SYRACUSE, N.Y. (CBS) ―

Facebook has banned a New York radio host's tribute page for Joe Stack, the pilot who rammed his small plane into a federal building in Austin, Texas because he was angry at the Internal Revenue Service.

Jon Alvarez, host of a conservative talk program on WFBL AM 1390 in Syracuse, said he put the page up Thursday just hours after the attack, CBS station WCBS-TV reports.

The crash killed Stack and a worker in the building.

Alvarez tells The Post-Standard newspaper in Syracuse that he felt Stack had made "a sacrifice to others who were having problems with the IRS."

Facebook had yanked the site by Friday.

It sent Alvarez a note saying it didn't allow pages that are hateful or threatening.

After 9/11, little has been done to guard against attacks with smaller planes. "It's a big gap," said R. William Johnstone, an aviation security consultant and former staff member of the commission that investigated the Sept. 11 attacks. "It wouldn't take much, even a minor incident involving two simultaneously attacking planes, to inflict enough damage to set off alarm bells and do some serious harm to the economy and national psyche."

The suburban Georgetown Municipal Airport that pilot Joe Stack entered hours before his airborne attack in nearby Austin had the casual atmosphere of a sleepy parking garage. Pilots were not subject to baggage checks, metal detector scans or pat-downs. And they are usually not required to file flight plans.

"How are they going to stop it? This guy had a hangar, and he had access to the airport," said Beth Ann Jenkins, president of Pilot's Choice, a flight school near where Stack kept his Piper.

Travis McLain, manager of the airport, said: "I don't know of a rule or regulation or safety precaution that could have prevented what happened yesterday."

The easy access and lack of security are the result of years of debate — and stalemate — over how much of a threat small aircraft pose as terror weapons and how they could be regulated without stifling commerce and pilot freedom.

While the airlines quickly accepted tougher security after Sept. 11, the general aviation industry, which includes everything from privately owned propeller-driven planes to large corporate jets, have aggressively fought new measures.

The proposed rules would require that operators of medium and large general-aviation aircraft demonstrate that flight crews have undergone a criminal background check. They would also be required to verify passengers are not on the no-fly lists already used by large airlines.

Private pilots fly approximately 200,000 small and medium-size planes in the U.S., using 19,000 airports, most of them small. The planes' owners insist the aircraft have nothing in common with airliners but the sky.

"I don't see a gaping security hole here," said Tom Walsh, an aviation security consultant. "In terms of aviation security, there are much bigger fish to fry than worrying about small aircraft."

He said most would-be terrorists would draw the same conclusion — that tiny aircraft don't pack a big enough punch.

Planes like Stack's weigh just a few thousands pounds and carry no more than 100 gallons of fuel, he noted. A Boeing 767 weighs 400,000 pounds and carries up to 25,000 gallons of fuel.

Walsh and other general aviation advocates argue that stringent security and bureaucracy would deter recreational fliers and slow down a vibrant, multibillion-dollar general aviation industry, causing economic damage.

"What it comes down to is that the cure could be worse than the disease," he said.

"There was no way to impose one overall security structure that would fit every general aviation airport's needs," said AOPA spokesman Chris Dancy. The association has about 400,000 members.

At the Georgetown airport, where 240 small aircraft are based, manager McLain said she hopes Stack's suicidal attack doesn't lead to an overreaction.

"I would hope that common sense and cooler heads would prevail," McLain said.
 
(© 2010 CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. The Associated Press contributed to this report.)

Just started a new thread using your post Pilikia, let's keep exposing these obvious Hal Turner agent provocateurs!


100% proof that John Alvarez is a Hal Turner type FBI agent provocateur
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=160816.0

[Dig]

It could be considered a good thing if, this plane was flown into the building in outrage and utter frustration. We can suspend that illusion with the discovery of his involvement with organizations/companies associated with 9/11. The freaks from Zion can be expected to act out in even more frequent and dangerously provocative fashion. Their lame sophistry is coming unglued, people sense their involvement in more and more of the worlds turmoil.

It would seem that beans, bullets and bandages come before gold/silver but, we must have them all. Not wanting to sound like a Boy Scout but, be prepared folks this years outlook is not good. Zionists are intent on more war for us all.


Semper Fi.

boogie boogie boogie the zionazis are coming.

[NOTE: most of this post is not directed toward Apolitical Blues, but to those awake, awakening, and those bilderberg psychos that are on the run]

They just completely blinked with this obvious false flag thinking that they would spark some deep seeded violent hatred within the peaceful truth movement. Guess what, the only pieces of total shit praising this false flag are paid FBI disinfo agent provocateurs like Hal Turner. They are all being exposed via their vociferous boasting which is 100% contrary to the truth movement. So now all these neoconned disinfo agents are caught with their pants down going "they told us there would be massive amounts of people supporting this false flag and we were being paid to lead the charge so that we could stab them in the back later, but no one supports it, waaaaaahh waaaaaaahh"

Hey bilderberg morons, we are non-violent! We do not promote any violence and are exposing all of you pieces of shit through what Cass Sunstein and his puppetmasters fear most...non-violent non-cooperation to your auto-genocidal agenda. We do not support copying the National Reconnaissance Office's "planes into buildings" drills used to exterminate 3,000 innocent lives on 9/11/2001. We do not support publishing fake manifesto's online and then remote control detonating planes that attack low level IRS slave officers who are just trying to support their families.

We do support exposing the New World Order so that it will never see the light of day in our lifetime or the lifetime of future generations.

[Dig]

I don't know for sure, but I lean toward it being an op. The main questions are if he was programmed to do it, or if he even flew the plane into the building at all. For all we know at this juncture, it is entirely possible that the plane was remote controlled into the building after Stack's dead body was put on board. In fact, we don't really know if they positively identified his body in the wreckage. Too many suspicious circumstances around the event.

witness in the building across said she could see inside the plane as it was flying and it looked like there was no pilot.

[Jackson Holly]

SANE:

Hey bilderberg morons, we are non-violent! We do not promote any violence and are exposing all of you pieces of shit through what Cass Sunstein and his puppetmasters fear most...non-violent non-cooperation to your auto-genocidal agenda. We do not support copying the National Reconnaissance Office's "planes into buildings" drills used to exterminate 3,000 innocent lives on 9/11/2001. We do not support publishing fake manifesto's online and then remote control detonating planes that attack low level IRS slave officers who are just trying to support their families.

EXCELLENT post! Wish I could lay it out so succinctly and powerfully.

You know, these people are just plain CREEPY ... just like NESFERATU
in the old B&W flix. This morning I am just feeling that we are up against
a gang of hellish, vampiric demons.

[Letsbereal]

witness in the building across said she could see inside the plane as it was flying and it looked like there was no pilot.

Well that could explain a lot. Donnow if somebody else did some study on the time table?

The blaze at the house was reported at 9:18 a.m., and the crash occurred at 9:56 a.m., 16 minutes after his takeoff from the Georgetown Municipal Airport.
http://www.statesman.com/news/local/officials-few-details-available-on-plane-crash-257820.html


Alex said that in fact it could be a 6 minute flight and that he was cleared for take of at 9:45 donnow were he got the last info?

First info is from somebody Alex knows and clearly has some insight in that matter.

Alex also argued that if Stack had to get to the airport on rush hour it could take some more time..

Nevertheless: house reported on fire and to the crash is 38 minutes and than take chairs out of the plane and fill up fuel cans and put them in the plane?

All doesn't seem very likely. See this Vid:

Sheryl Stack releases statement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVDZ26mjeDY

This vid from 2:35 min -> Quote Reporter:

"What is curious to them is the time line because the fire was reported in at 9:18 in the morning. 35 minutes later the plane slamed into the echelon building.

Now it takes you 30 minutes to drive from here to the George Town airport let alone fly back.

So, there are some questions right now whether or not a timer device or remote detonation was involved with the fire yesterday."

So it could be done if you take the 6 minute from Alex (But not with removing seats and fuel and all)

So 9:18 fire reported drive for 30 min (If this really can be done during rush hour? He could have left a bit earlier before the fire was reported of cause) than it's round 9:48 rush into the plane fly 6 minutes and ram into the building at 9:56.

But really have to check on the 6 minutes. The media btw says 16 minutes flight. But detaching chairs and fuel and all IMPOSSIBLE!

My conclusion so far and presuming the facts are accurate: All together a very, very tight military type of time framing.


btw: Following the reporter statements: Wouldn't it be better for Joe Stack to light the fire himself and do the plain by some device or remote control instead of the other way around?

I am very curious how they gonna talk themselves out of all this bs this time?

[oyashango]

Please tell me to back off if I am sounding repetitive. But, am I the ONLY one that find it odd that the media has mentioned NOTHING about retrieving the body(!)?  Neither has there been any reporting if whether his family has the remains and are making any funeral arrangements. Do you not find this odd?

[Letsbereal]

No you never back off from questions on your mind.

I only heard that they retrieved two bodies with the assumption that one of them must be Stack so that would mean he only killed one person?

Donnow if any other statements were made on the subject but in the first moments of these kinda happenings you hear most of the truth just like with 911 (except of the hired talking points of cause).

Should have back uped that statement but at that time you are looking at so many things that you don't have a focus yet.


You can be sure that they are very busy now spinning all the facts together I mean the whole explosion at the building by such a small airplane is also ridiculous.


Than you have the time line which doesn't seem likely at all if he allegedly he removed some plane chairs and put fuel in.

Only to remove chairs takes a lot of time let alone filling up the plane itself and filling up the extra fuel cans added to that time frame.

Sounds like a lot of bs but they need the bs fuel story to explain the ridiculous explosion at the building.

They are talking themselves into more and more bs to make it sound all plausible but instead it gets more and more ridiculous.


Oh yeah the alleged sound recording on that day of Stack has been made before of cause. Easy to do. The man did a lot of flying to get to work as I understand it.

[Tokiem]

Please tell me to back off if I am sounding repetitive. But, am I the ONLY one that find it odd that the media has mentioned NOTHING about retrieving the body(!)?  Neither has there been any reporting if whether his family has the remains and are making any funeral arrangements. Do you not find this odd?

Joe Stack is probably building another remote controlled kamikaze aircraft? If the media claims Joe Stack is still alive then they can continue to play the drama and terror aspect? Who knows when Joe may strike again with more of these aircraft terror weapons?

[Letsbereal]

Yeah, maybe he has teamed up with Uncle Bin Laden in some cave now and is planning very wicked evildoeing scemes.

[oyashango]

I think they know that the second body is probably NOT him. They are keeping this  quiet until they can find him. However, it kinda doesn't make sense since his family has not demanded the body. Perhaps they might naively believe that it disintegrated in the explosion . . . I donno. Something just isn't right about this entire thing.

[oyashango]

Why are you spamming each thread with the same thing?  Or is it my browser which is messing-up?

[New Whirled Order]

Please tell me to back off if I am sounding repetitive. But, am I the ONLY one that find it odd that the media has mentioned NOTHING about retrieving the body(!)?  Neither has there been any reporting if whether his family has the remains and are making any funeral arrangements. Do you not find this odd?

I live in Austin and even the local news here hasn't gone out of their way to report anything about Stack's remains being positively identified.  And yes, I do find that to be a bit odd.

[Letsbereal]

I live in Austin and even the local news here hasn't gone out of their way to report anything about Stack's remains being positively identified.  And yes, I do find that to be a bit odd.

Ok, so how many people died in total according to the media you heard?


Here I have it: http://www.statesman.com/news/local/plane-hits-northwest-austin-office-building-251925.html

"The Austin Fire Department said two bodies were recovered from the building by Thursday night. FBI spokesman Eric Vasys said one is believed to be that of Stack. He said the body was sent to forensic evidence specialists.

Officials said earlier that a federal employee was missing and that person's family had been notified, but they did not identify the worker.

IRS employee Vernon Hunter, 67, is missing, and his family fears that he is the missing person, according to a woman who answered the phone Thursday night at the Hunter residence in Cedar Park. She said she was a close family friend but declined to identify herself."


If one isn't Joe Stack how they gonna cover that up? Assuming that indeed the plane was empty. Or that already is the cover up and they only retrieved one body.

We'll see.

[Letsbereal]

Also: here is a history of his recent flights in the plane: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N2889D

[New Whirled Order]

Vernon Hunter has been positively identified.  He was a two tour Vietnam veteran and an IRS employee for many years.  His son has already made remarks to the media and expressed his disgust with people who claim Stack is some kind of "hero".

Still no word about any postive identification of Stack's remains unless I missed it, which is quite possible.

on edit: total of two dead and 13 injured (two of those badly burned) one of the dead believed to be Stack.  That's all I've heard.  

[Freeski]

[New Whirled Order]

It is absolutely remarkable that only two people were killed (one being Stack himself) in that building.

[Letsbereal]

According to this talk show host the anger of Joe Stack was towards his accounted not to the IRS in the letter.

The talk show host thinks this is a red flag for him.


Paul A Drockton M.A. explains how this event only benefits the IRS Overlords and could label the Tea Party tax revolt movement as "Domestic Terrorism"
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pdrocktonma1/2010/02/19/was-joe-stracks-plane-crash-a-false-flag

Host Name: Dead Man Musings       
Show Name: Was Joe Stack's Plane Crash a "False Flag"?
Date / Length: 2/19/2010 6:00 PM - 1 hr
Description: h:105269 s:920878

[oyashango]

It is absolutely remarkable that only two people were killed (one being Stack himself) in that building.

I'm thinking the same exact thing. I find it odd that he hit at the busiest time of the work day too!

[New Whirled Order]

According to this talk show host the anger of Joe Stack was towards his accounted not to the IRS in the letter.

The talk show host thinks this a red flag for him.


Paul A Drockton M.A. explains how this event only benefits the IRS Overlords and could label the Tea Party tax revolt movement as "Domestic Terrorism"
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pdrocktonma1/2010/02/19/was-joe-stracks-plane-crash-a-false-flag

Host Name: Dead Man Musings       
Show Name: Was Joe Stack's Plane Crash a "False Flag"?
Date / Length: 2/19/2010 6:00 PM - 1 hr
Description: h:105269 s:920878

I keep wanting to believe this wasn't staged, but the more I think about it, the establishment couldn't have wished for a better scenario than this... 

Demonize tea parties - check

Demonize anyone who doesn't pay or bitches about paying their taxes - check

Demonize private aviation (small aircraft owners) - check

Demonize anyone who sympathizes with Stack's on-line manifesto / suicide note - check.  This one is huge!  "If you agree with what Stack said, you must be a terrorist."  Almost everybody agrees with most of what he wrote.  That was clearly evident listening to caller after caller to local talk radio today.


This gives the government a big time excuse to circle the wagons against the American people.

[New Whirled Order]

I'm thinking the same exact thing. I find it odd that he hit at the busiest time of the work day too!

The fire(s) must've spread slowly after initial impact.  This is the only logical explanation for this.  The local news has also reported many times that the employees in that building were well rehearsed in fire drills / orderly building evacuations.

[Guns Equal Freedom]

Was the title changed on this thread?

Even Alex Jones himself said, "he doesn't think the Joe Stack Incident was a "false flag".

Well, last time I checked.

[oyashango]

Was the title changed on this thread?

Even Alex Jones himself said, "he doesn't think the Joe Stack Incident was a "false flag".

Well, last time I checked.

I heard him the other day, and he is still vacillating between if it was or was not a false flag. The only thing he does know is that he does not agree with the method Stack used to make his point.

[Guns Equal Freedom]

I keep wanting to believe this wasn't staged, but the more I think about it, the establishment couldn't have wished for a better scenario than this... 

Demonize tea parties - check

Demonize anyone who doesn't pay or bitches about paying their taxes - check

Demonize private aviation (small aircraft owners) - check

Demonize anyone who sympathizes with Stack's on-line manifesto / suicide note - check.  This one is huge!  "If you agree with what Stack said, you must be a terrorist."  Almost everybody agrees with most of what he wrote.  That was clearly evident listening to caller after caller to local talk radio today.


This gives the government a big time excuse to circle the wagons against the American people.

People will always try and find something to demoralize each other's party.

[Guns Equal Freedom]

I heard him the other day, and he is still vacillating between if it was or was not a false flag. The only thing he does know is that he does not agree with the method Stack used to make his point.

Thanks, I thought I was right.

Anyway, yeah, Joe Stack is no hero, and everybody should understand that the government just wants any excuse to tighten up their ratchets.

[oyashango]

Yeah, I thought I was right.

Anyway, yeah, Joe Stack is no hero, and everybody should understand that the government just wants any excuse to tighten up their ratchets.

Yes, I do not agree with him hurting innocent workers either. However, I must admit that for some reason, I am more shakened than usual about his despair. I am sorta feeling more rage rising against the utter evil our government has become to drive what appeared to be a nice guy into such dispair.  I just see how gullible he and millions of others have been trained to believe in this system only to be bitterly and hopelessly let down. Once their eyes are finally opened, they have no means to defend their shock, despair and horror. They simply implode and self-destruct, just like Stack. What's worst, the system uses his carcass to implement yet more  repressive laws and restraints to snare even more of us into their trap. They are demonic parasites completely out of control, and must be stopped.

[thatgrownman]

There is no evidence that Joe Stack was a "whistleblower" as has been claimed on this board. Just because he worked for a communications firm doesn't mean he knew anything. We always talk about compartmentalization when we try to build evidence of criminal undertakings by the National Security State, now "of course he knew everything" and was about to talk? Lets see some evidence before we try to paint this guy as some kind of "insider" who wanted to tell his story.

If this was really a false flag why did they kill the story so quickly and focus on tiger woods. Literally all of neocon talk radio was on tiger woods the next day. They didn't present and narrative and try to hammer it into people like they do with every other false flag. Maybe they really botched some things so they killed it or IT WAS NEVER A FALSE FLAG. Don't jump to conclusions look at evidence. This board is obsessed with coming to conclusions before the facts are disclosed. Every time facts are disclosed, we find the truth. Not saying there isn't fishy evidence but we have to put that together with stuff that makes sense.

[oyashango]

If this was really a false flag why did they kill the story so quickly and focus on tiger woods. Literally all of neocon talk radio was on tiger woods the next day.

Heck, they didn't even wait until the next day. Within the hour they shifted the focus on Iran building a nuclear war head, and immediately took down Stacks manifesto. 

[Letsbereal]

btw The fact that somebody saw nobody in the plane piloting it doesn't mean Stack wasn't in the plane.

It only means he wasn't steering the plane and they just layed him flat (or fell flat during the remote controlled flight maneuvers) for the fabricated evidence later.

If so he was drugged or most likely already dead.


Since the FBI handles these cases they have enough time to remove any further evidence of RC flight controls, cameras etc...

Burning down the house was smart cause any hidden evidence in the house contradicting the whole story was cunningly destroyed.

It seems they messed up the time frames though (far to tight) and the "too a big mess" at the echelon/IRS building.

Stacks manifest and family reactions together with people who knew him some way or the other make it also look more like a False Flag.

FBI being there in seconds and questioning everybody immediately (not for evidence but to know if they saw something the wouldn't like. Like He! I saw no pilot), firetruck already there.

All togehter It's smelly at the least.

[oyashango]

Heck, they didn't even wait until the next day. Within the hour they shifted the focus on Iran building a nuclear war head, and immediately took down Stacks manifesto. 

Heck, as I am typing this the so called "BIG NEWS BREAKING" is the prostitute who is suing Tiger because she wants an apology for him forcing her to fall in love with him.  NOTHING about Stack . . . not even a wispher.