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Author Topic: Austin, TX False Flag NRO "Plane into Building" drill comes to life  (Read 94825 times)
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« Reply #240 on: February 18, 2010, 01:53:20 PM »

Download and archive this eye-witness video before it's removed!!  At 2:55 the eyewitness notes that firetrucks and hazmat was directly across the street before the plane hit.  How convenient!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gItV-ENkxPY&feature=player_embedded#
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« Reply #241 on: February 18, 2010, 01:54:31 PM »


  Alex said he'll be back on PP Tv in 30 minutes or so and may be there for hours.  He also said that they may blow up IRS buildings as time goes by.
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« Reply #242 on: February 18, 2010, 01:54:49 PM »

Cnn has on BREAKING NEWS
saying Iran Is developing a nuclear war head

There going full propaganda mode
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« Reply #243 on: February 18, 2010, 01:56:03 PM »

Download and archive this eye-witness video before it's removed!!  At 2:55 the eyewitness notes that firetrucks and hazmat was directly across the street before the plane hit.  How convenient!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gItV-ENkxPY&feature=player_embedded#

yeah i got footage saying they showed up withing minutes
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« Reply #244 on: February 18, 2010, 01:57:08 PM »

Scootle, are talking heads on BBC covering this? Anyone Brit seeing their spin?(yes, call me Yank if it makes you feel good)

Are they coordinating the screwjob, or mess it up like 911?
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« Reply #245 on: February 18, 2010, 01:57:47 PM »

Cnn has on BREAKING NEWS
saying Iran Is developing a nuclear war head

There going full propaganda mode

This stinks more and more by the minute.
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« Reply #246 on: February 18, 2010, 02:06:18 PM »

Scootle, are talking heads on BBC covering this? Anyone Brit seeing their spin?(yes, call me Yank if it makes you feel good)

Are they coordinating the screwjob, or mess it up like 911?

No idea... don't have a tv lol
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« Reply #247 on: February 18, 2010, 02:06:33 PM »

How far was this from the infowars offices? A little too close for my liking.

Nowhere close.  Alex is in South Austin, this was kind of North West.  Pretty far away.
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« Reply #248 on: February 18, 2010, 02:09:11 PM »

Rofl here it comes, cnn now asking if theres enough safeguards when it comes to flying planes and helicopters, if anyone can just get into one and do something like this.
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« Reply #249 on: February 18, 2010, 02:12:03 PM »

Rofl here it comes, cnn now asking if theres enough safeguards when it comes to flying planes and helicopters, if anyone can just get into one and do something like this.


did you catch them saying there would have had to be bombs inside the plane to cause this sort of damage?
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« Reply #250 on: February 18, 2010, 02:12:52 PM »

Did ALex say that he would be on Russia Today or Press TV?



Here is the video link to Russia Today.

http://rt.com/On_Air.html
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« Reply #251 on: February 18, 2010, 02:14:21 PM »

Yup, that was interesting, i like how the guy they had on was comenting how a new agency has to be formed to be able to conect all the dots between all the intell the us gets, sounds kind of ominious lol, plus more iran propaganda.
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« Reply #252 on: February 18, 2010, 02:18:15 PM »

Just had a look on BBC for a minute and they said there is a police briefing coming up live shortly .
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« Reply #253 on: February 18, 2010, 02:19:32 PM »

This stinks more and more by the minute.

Most of what has been in the news the last week stinks by the minute.

I wondering where George W. Bush is today with comments like he said about the first plane hitting the towers on 9/11:  "And I used to fly, myself, and I said, well, there's one terrible pilot."
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« Reply #254 on: February 18, 2010, 02:19:43 PM »

Lol i like the twitter coments on the cnn channel, some coments were, if theres wreckage from this event why inst there any from the pentagon, / if they consider him a terrorist how long will it take for the army to bomb his neighbourhood rofl, interesting comments.
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« Reply #255 on: February 18, 2010, 02:21:33 PM »

So does anybody else find it remotely interesting that Beck was on this morning trying to turn us truthers agaisngt Medina, saying she sold us out due ot some other radio interview she did. He said he was tired of taking the heat, that we could focus on somebody else now. And then this happens while he still lashes out at the truth movement on his show after that.
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« Reply #256 on: February 18, 2010, 02:28:25 PM »

Perry is full bilderberg and medina is giving him a run. Then this happens? Very powerful man that Perry.
 
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« Reply #257 on: February 18, 2010, 02:32:24 PM »


did you catch them saying there would have had to be bombs inside the plane to cause this sort of damage?

Yep pretty good to get an accerlerant or bombs on a stolen plane... and did you hear Rick suggest communications through Twitter, Facebook, etc... be monitored so as to find people with, I'll say, anti-establishment views?

LOL he actually said "while maintaining privacy".  Yeah, that'd be a good trick.  What an idiot with his "nationional conversation".
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« Reply #258 on: February 18, 2010, 02:32:58 PM »

Download and archive this eye-witness video before it's removed!!  At 2:55 the eyewitness notes that firetrucks and hazmat was directly across the street before the plane hit.  How convenient!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gItV-ENkxPY&feature=player_embedded#


Very interesting! So a witness says that Hazmat and a Fire Engine were already at the scene before the crash?

This smells like just another OKC attack on a govt bldg to be used for their purposes yet again!

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« Reply #259 on: February 18, 2010, 02:36:09 PM »


Very interesting! So a witness says that Hazmat and a Fire Engine were already at the scene before the crash?

This smells like just another OKC attack on a govt bldg to be used for their purposes yet again!

 Roll Eyes

Stop the madness and paranoia. a crazed disgruntled guy crashed his plane because he believed violence was the only answer, and now he's dead..theres no false flag here....
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« Reply #260 on: February 18, 2010, 02:38:18 PM »

Alright, here is my take on the whole thing:


This man did a great disservice to every American citizen. What he did will only EMPOWER the evil machine that chokes us on a daily basis.

The only true road to freedom is mass non-violence and non-compliance. What this man did was utterly selfish and stupid.


Thanks alot Mr. Dumbass, because you just made it a lot easier for TPTB to get what they want.
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« Reply #261 on: February 18, 2010, 02:38:29 PM »

Stop the madness and paranoia. a crazed disgruntled guy crashed his plane because he believed violence was the only answer, and now he's dead..theres no false flag here....

You never let a good crisis go to waste .
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« Reply #262 on: February 18, 2010, 02:41:41 PM »

You never let a good crisis go to waste .

Exactly... even if this is what it's reported to be, they'll use it for their benifit.  This is why violent acts against the government are NOT the answer.
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« Reply #263 on: February 18, 2010, 02:43:43 PM »

Perry is full bilderberg and medina is giving him a run. Then this happens? Very powerful man that Perry.
 

Very protected is more like it.
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« Reply #264 on: February 18, 2010, 02:45:02 PM »

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« Reply #265 on: February 18, 2010, 02:46:26 PM »

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2010/02/austin_plane_crash_basic_detai.html?wprss=federal-eye


Austin plane crash: Basic details

A low-flying small plane crashed into an office building that houses the Internal Revenue Service in Austin on Thursday, in what appears to be an isolated incident committed by a lone individual.

"Like most Americans, I am shocked by the tragic events that took place in Austin this morning," IRS Commissioner Doug Shulman said in a statement. "This incident is of deep concern to me. We are working with law-enforcement agencies to fully investigate the events that led up to this plane crash. My thoughts and prayers go out to the dedicated employees of the IRS who work in the Austin building. We will immediately begin doing whatever we can to help them during this difficult time. While this appears to be an isolated incident, the safety of our employees is my highest priority. We will continue to do whatever is needed to ensure our employees are safe."

These types of situations always dredge up the complexities of federal security and federal building issues, so as The Eye has done before, here's what we know this situation:

• About 190 IRS employees are assigned to work in the work in the Echelon 1 Building, which has a mix of private- and public-sector tenants.

• IRS employees assigned to the building include revenue agents, revenue officers, estate and gift tax attorneys, and tax compliance officers, according to the National Treasury Employees Union, which represents IRS workers nationwide. Some IRS offices are on the first floor, according to the Austin American-Statesman. Some employees were in a training session on the third floor of the building when the plane struck.

• Austin is home to a large IRS tax processing center, but tax processing operations were not impacted by this incident, the agency said.

• The space leased by the General Services Administration, which has three leases in the immediate vicinity. GSA also owns and operates seven facilities in Austin.

• A private security contract guard employed by the Federal Protective Service is assigned to the Echelon building during normal business hours, officials said.

Developing...

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« Reply #266 on: February 18, 2010, 02:46:32 PM »

I'm not watching TV right now.  Is this the Echelon Building?

YES.  the pic is found on ABC new's webpage here:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/slideshow?id=9876509

that little plane also made all this damage



notice all the windows BLOWN out??

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« Reply #267 on: February 18, 2010, 02:47:20 PM »

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« Reply #268 on: February 18, 2010, 02:49:57 PM »

The cable news channels are dissecting his on-line rant / suicide note.
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« Reply #269 on: February 18, 2010, 02:50:07 PM »



Just like the teams of police that just happened to be sat in tavistock square when the bus went up on 7/7

Yeah right - they expect us to swallow this one hook line and sinker too i suppose?
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« Reply #270 on: February 18, 2010, 02:50:25 PM »

GOOD FIND SCOOT!!

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« Reply #271 on: February 18, 2010, 02:51:20 PM »

YES.  the pic is found on ABC new's webpage here:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/slideshow?id=9876509

that little plane also made all this damage



notice all the windows BLOWN out??



Why are we assuming the windows were "blown" out? Couldn't the spreading fire from the crash caused all of the damage?
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« Reply #272 on: February 18, 2010, 02:51:36 PM »

http://www.businessinsider.com/joseph-andrew-stacks-did-work-for

Joseph Andrew Stack Did Software Work For Hughes Aircraft, Warner Bros Studios Stores, More
Gillian Reagan | Feb. 18, 2010, 2:37 PM

Software engineer Joseph Andrew Stack, the pilot who intentionally crashed a plane in Texas this morning, did contract work for several companies including Hughes Aircraft, Equinox Industries/Warner Brothers Studio Stores, Sorrento Electronics, according to his business website.

He ran a firmware/software development service company called Embedded Art. Here's a description of his business, from his homepage:

Embedded Art is a small independent software house, specializing in process control and automation. In its current form it represents the culmination of 20 years of experience in the software development consulting business. Founded by Joe Stack in 1983 (under the name of Prowess Engineering) in Southern California, the company thrived for 15 years until shifting focus to the Sacramento area to take advantage of growth in the Silicon Valley.

Now, 5 years later, the expertise of Embedded Art has landed in the Austin Area expecting to lend a hand to the growing high technology industry in South-Central Texas.

The concept behind the success of Embedded Art is that we provide the experience and muscle for addressing complex software engineering development tasks. Much of today's programming is a step-wise refinement of previous development projects. With 20 years of experience, we provide the expertise that can effectively navigate around many of the pitfalls that snare the unseasoned engineer (indeed, we've seen many of the same mistakes made again and again by the inexperienced).

Here's his list of clients and the description of his projects, according to the site:

Cylink Corporation
Project: The Cylink CY8300 IPSec high-performance security processor

DMC Stratex Networks
Project: The Spectrum and Altium product lines, high-capacity wireless communication platforms (i.e., microwave radios)

Western Digital Corporation
Project: A high-performance multi-function ESDI/SCSI/Floppy controller for the Apollo networked workstations and high-end PCs.

Equinox Industries/Warner Brothers Studio Stores
Project: Distribution Center Processing Automation

Interstate Electronics Corporation
Project: IEC 9002 GPS-based Flight Management System
Project: The IEC 9002 Navigation Database Update Processor, a Windows-based, off-line data reduction tool
Project: IEC 9002 MCDU, an ARINC-739 compatible Multi-purpose Control and Display Unit
Project: GPS Satellite Simulator (Military & Commercial unit)
Project: IEC Military Plasma Display, an 80186/82720-based "intelligent" terminal boasting multi-mode text graphics display, ANSI Standard compatibility, multiple virtual screens, and downloadable display generation capabilityEverett Charles Technologies
Project: ECT 9090(tm) Bare Board Tester

MOST, Inc.
Project: 2.6GB SCSI II read/write CD-ROM (Magneto/Optical) drive

Emulex Corporation
Project: SCSI/ATA(IDE) chipset firmware base (early C++)
Design and implement hardware interface library components

Cable & Computer Technology, Inc.
Project: An AMD-2900 based bit-slice magnetic tape controller

Taradactyl Technovation, Inc.
Project: The Mileage Elephant (vehicle usage tracker)
 
Teledyne Systems Corporation
Project: An AMD-2900 based bit-slice emulation/simulation of IBM's 32-bit AP101-F floating-point processor

Hughes Aircraft, Fullerton
Project: A multi-processor control system composed of six 68000 processors, twenty-two 8085

Sorrento Electronics, Inc.
Project: Process Control System

Here's the screenshot of his client page:


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Why is Cylink highlighted in red?  Perhaps I have found a possible motive.  Perhaps Joe Stack wasn't going to play ball with Jay Rockefeller/Snowe/CSIS/NCOIC/Cyber Tyranny mandates over all software coding.  Sounds to me like he had non-backdoored, proprietary, real security technologies that his company developed.  And therefore, he had to be killed.  Fake suicide note, replete with remote control commandeering of his plane, flown into the building, and concocting a completely fake story as to why it happened.

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* Tags: * Cyberterrorism, * Security, * World Trade Center, * FBI

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A new call for limits on encryption technology is finding weak political support in the United States, despite a looming clandestine war against terrorism that is likely to hinge on the effectiveness of police and military intelligence.

In response to attacks this month on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, Senator Judd Gregg, a New Hampshire Republican, said he favoured establishing mandatory backdoors in the software used to scramble digital messages and to ensure that only the intended recipient can read the contents.

The spectre of unbreakable encryption falling into the hands of criminals, terrorists and hostile governments has long been used to promote policies limiting commercial data-scrambling products. Such arguments are out of date, however, according to many experts. Critics include not only civil libertarians and a self-interested software industry, but those concerned with preventing terrorism as well.

Two factors have decisively changed the playing field: So-called strong encryption technology is already widely available and can't realistically be recalled. In addition, fear of cyberattacks hitting strategic targets such as electrical grids and nuclear power plants has raised the stakes for domestic security.

"The danger in weakening encryption is that our infrastructure would become even less secure," said Bill Crowell, a former deputy director of the National Security Agency, the organisation charged with gathering electronic intelligence for the military and protecting the United States' own communications networks. "There is no indication that the administration is serious about these proposals."

Already, some members of Congress are readying opposition to Gregg's proposal.

Representative Bob Goodlatte, a Virginia Republican and longtime critic of anti-encryption measures, said he is working to build Senate opposition for such a bill that equals momentum in the House. Goodlatte belongs to a camp of lawmakers that believes such legislation would be a threat to national security.

"It's not a matter of privacy vs security, but security vs security," Goodlatte said in an interview.

"Encryption protects our national security," he said. "It protects the controls of everything from nuclear power plants to the New York Stock Exchange, government communications, credit cards and the electric power grid. Encryption plays a critical role in our entire communication system, and to require that a backdoor be built into that system is just an incredibly dangerous thing to do."

Former NSA Deputy Director Crowell, now president and chief executive of security software maker Cylink, said intelligence and law enforcement agencies will have to find other ways to gather information than plucking it from the ether.

"Yes, it's hard," he said. "But that is the world that we live in today. I think the alternative of having banks, companies and the government use weak encryption is not a good one."

Gregg stated that he would present legislation to create a "quasi-judicial entity," appointed by the Supreme Court, that would act as an independent third party giving authority to the lawmakers with proper warrants to crack encrypted documents.

"This judicial element would have the ability, with absolute search-and-seizure rights protected, to get access to security keys with cooperation from the industry," said Brian Hart, press secretary for the senator.

Gregg is discussing the proposal with other senators and is waiting to see Attorney General John Ashcroft's full anti-terrorism recommendation, expected to be released next week, Hart said.

"We want to defer to the president and the Bush administration to combat terrorism," he said.

For law enforcement and officials of the newly formed Office of Homeland Security, encryption holds both a promise and a threat.

Today's encryption technology allows anyone with a PC to scramble their email and files so that even the most powerful computers in the world would take centuries, if not longer, to crack the code. Only the correct key can decipher the original message.

On one hand, encryption has made the Internet more secure. In the past, most information on the Internet was sent in plain text with no encryption protecting it. Anyone listening on the line could capture passwords, financial transactions or personal emails. Today, the ability to encrypt the content of messages has heightened the security of the Internet.

However, that same ability to scramble messages has left lawful authorities bereft of any ability to eavesdrop on suspected terrorists when encryption is being used. Although there is no evidence yet that encryption was used by the terrorists that attacked the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, many consider it likely.

The dangers of giving criminals the ability to hold absolutely private communications has been debated often in the past decade.

In the late '90s, a group of federal regulators including former FBI Director Louis Freeh and former Attorney General Janet Reno championed legislation that required encryption software to include government safeguards and that restricted US exports.

The Clinton administration introduced a proposal for technology known as the "Clipper Chip," or an extra key held by the government, which could with a warrant unlock encrypted electronic messages for criminal investigations. The proposal met with opposition from the American public, businesses and foreign governments, and eventually failed. Critics said foreign consumers or businesses would not buy US encryption software accessible by the US government.

"Everyone gets really nervous when you start talking about backdoors because you have to trust the other fellow a lot," said James Lewis, director for the technology and public policy program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, based in Washington D.C.

"If you put domestic restrictions on US encryption use, it doesn't do any good, because first, there are real costs to the economy -- the Internet is weakened -- and second, without the cooperation of every other crypto supplier in the world, it doesn't prevent terrorists from getting their crypto from somewhere else," Lewis said. "None of these issues have changed."

For now, Gregg seems unlikely to gain many adherents.

Scott Schnell, senior vice president of corporate development for encryption technology seller RSA Data Security, argued that a backdoor could make the Internet far more vulnerable to attack.

"The fatal flaw is that if the terrorist ends up with a key [to a backdoor], it could be disastrous," he said. "A single key could compromise a whole company or a large segment of the population."

Rather than preventing terrorism, argued Schnell, Gregg's proposal would empower terrorists by allowing them to focus their attack on a single weakness.

"The proposal not only wouldn't work, but it would force the country to pay a huge penalty to get access to a small body of potential evidence," he said.

Privacy advocates weighed in against the proposal as well. Richard Smith, chief technology officer for the Denver-based Privacy Foundation, characterised any potential encryption laws as a "total waste of time."

"It will take years to get updated forms of the software, assuming that people will even upgrade voluntarily," Smith said. Worse, such legislation would have little effect on terrorists who could just use the software publicly available now. "The bad guys will keep using the old products without the backdoors."
[INSERT:  This was (and is) the perfect excuse they are already beginning to use to internationalize all software globally.]

Steve Bellovin, a security researcher with ATT Labs, said any impression the United States has of pre-eminence in the encryption field is wrongheaded. The encryption algorithm to be used by the US government in the future, known as the Advanced Encryption Standard, was originally developed by two Belgian scientists.

Terrorists outside the United States will have access to such expertise, he said. "These people are not stupid," he said. "They will write their own code. I know high-school students who could take the AES specification and write a program."

Gregg hopes to head that off by enlisting other nations' help. One key to legislation would be the cooperation of governments around the world, which Gregg has urged in congressional hearings. Global enforcement is essential to ensuring that terrorists and hackers are unable to obtain encryption software without backdoors.

But opponents to encryption laws believe such cooperation to be impossible.

"Because you can download software on the Internet, people outside the country could sell encryption without a backdoor," said the Privacy Foundation's Smith. "To have practical value, it would have to have worldwide enforcement, and plenty of countries wouldn't want to do this."

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In recent years, however because of the proliferation of low cost, abundantly capable microprocessors and support hardware, the difference between the embedded firmware operating environment and that of the typical end user application has become almost insignificant.

It is not at all unusual to find embedded systems with a multitasking operating system, a full network protocol stack, a relational SQL database server, a multi-user graphical user interface server and more.

Visit our list of Environment Element Components page to see a catalog of some of the many processors, protocols, languages, libraries, and facilities we have worked with over the years.

Embedded Systems Development

    In this age, almost every device we encounter that is electrical has some kind of electronic automation. Microprocessor controllers play a part in everything from devices as simple as home appliances to complex computer peripherals. Over the years, we've produced firmware for a wide spectrum of these fascinating devices.
    Embedded System Development Areas of Specialization

    In every firmware development process there are frequently trouble spots which engineers encounter. Our experience in these areas allows us to help insure a development effort will remains on schedule, and within budget. Some specific areas include:

        * Environment Development
        * Microprocessor Start-up Code
        * Operating System Integration
        * Device Driver Implementation
        * Algorithm and Process Refinement
        * Firmware Product Maintainability

End-User Application Development

    Our end-user application development experience started with an interactive text editor built for a port of Unix back in the early 1980's. Since then, we've garnered praise from numerous customers (Western Digital, Sorrento Electronics, Warner Bros. Studio Stores, and many more) for the demonstration of our ability to define application user interfaces that present information in a clear, concise, and efficient format which is intuitive and productive for the user.
Software Quality Assurance

    In software engineering circles, it's an odd fact of lift that many of the most talented developers have an aversion to both the Software Quality Assurance (SQA) and the documentation processes. It has been our experience that one of the most expensive mistakes a company can make is to short-change the SQA process.

    No amount of effort will turn up all possible software problems (indeed, any given module only functions within its specification in a tightly controlled context). However, the key to achieving stellar results from SQA efforts lies in understanding how a given software environment works and what must be done to methodically examine each possible failure point.
Technical Documentation

    Writing high quality, comprehensive documentation (whether it's a requirement specification or an end-user document) and designing an efficient software algorithm are very similar exercises. In both cases it takes skill and dexterity at defining a problem to be solved, organizing just the right pieces of information into the optimal order so that everything is presented as it is needed, and carefully presenting all that is necessary and nothing more.

    Designing a good documentation set can be almost as complicated as a good systems design (and every bit as important). However, many of the technical writer staff (while highly qualified authors) have a poor grasp of the documentation tools and the ramifications of how to design a system that can live and breath in an engineering department over the years without quickly becoming unmanageable and obsolete. We've solved this problem, and have the know-how to do it again with the next generation of tools.
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« Reply #273 on: February 18, 2010, 02:52:38 PM »

YES.  the pic is found on ABC new's webpage here:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/slideshow?id=9876509

that little plane also made all this damage



notice all the windows BLOWN out??



It is hard to believe.  It looks like OKC.
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« Reply #274 on: February 18, 2010, 02:53:11 PM »

http://www.gsacontractswon.com/department/gsa/echelon-holding-limited-140526976.asp?yr=08

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« Reply #275 on: February 18, 2010, 02:56:25 PM »

YES.  the pic is found on ABC new's webpage here:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/slideshow?id=9876509

that little plane also made all this damage



notice all the windows BLOWN out??



That's another one of the things that came to my mind.  How could a small plane done all of that, especially when the young man who tried ramming a small plane into one of those Tampa high rises did such little damage?
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« Reply #276 on: February 18, 2010, 02:57:34 PM »

The cable news channels are dissecting his on-line rant / suicide note.

You're right... And they're actually being careful to make him seem like a nut but not make it look obvious that they are going to throw people who are critical of the government into the same boat.....

EDIT: HERE WE GO AGAIN!

They just called it a "suicide mission".

They just threw the suicide kamakazi guy in the mentally sick category..... -- I wonder WHO ELSE they will throw into that category?

THEY ARE ADDRESSING THE "VIOLENCE IS THE ONLY ANSWER" QUOTE.

They are continuing to address the "suicide note".
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« Reply #277 on: February 18, 2010, 03:01:03 PM »



Thx Scootle! A big help. This should be spread all over the internet!

My first thought was: here we go again. They are staging attacks against themselves just like in OKC. It's always for THEIR AGENDA!

Those firemen and hazmat guys on the scene, PRIOR TO THE CRASH, must be idiots if they can't figure these things out. Hey, guys you need to wakeup.

This smells to high heavens!
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« Reply #278 on: February 18, 2010, 03:01:42 PM »

Not much damage.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1746192.stm

"United States authorities are reviewing security measures following the weekend incident in Tampa, Florida when a young pilot crashed his plane into a skyscraper."



Sunday, 6 January, 2002, 22:37 GMT
US investigates 'suicide' plane crash

Tampa crash debris
The plane hit the 28th floor of the building

United States authorities are reviewing security measures following the weekend incident in Tampa, Florida when a young pilot crashed his plane into a skyscraper.

Fifteen-year-old Charles Bishop was the only fatality when his single-engine Cessna plane hit the skyscraper early on Saturday evening, a few minutes after taking off on an unauthoristed flight.


Bishop can best be described as a young man who had very few friends and was very much a loner

Tampa Police Chief Bennie Holder

Although a terror motive has been ruled out, Bishop was revealed to have been obsessed by the devastating suicide hijack attacks of 11 September and was carrying a suicide note "expressing sympathy" for Osama Bin Laden.

He "clearly stated he had acted alone without any help from anyone else," said Tampa Police Chief Bennie Holder.

Mr Holder said there was no evidence that Bishop was trying to harm anyone else.

He portrayed him as a loner, with few friends, and no apparent links to Bin Laden's al-Qaeda group.

Military air space

The ninth-grade student from Palm Harbor had turned up for a scheduled flying lesson at St Petersburg-Clearwater International Airport on Saturday afternoon.

School photo of young pilot Charles Bishop
Charles Bishop was killed instantly
"His flight instructor told him to go and prepare for the flight, but he just took off," an airport spokeswoman, Kate Hughes, told reporters.

Two US military F-15 fighter aircraft and a US Coast Guard helicopter were scrambled to intercept the Cessna 172R plane.

Concern was heightened when it flew into restricted airspace over the nearby MacDill Air Force Base - headquarters of the US Central Command in charge of the war in Afghanistan.

After a nine-minute flight, the plane flew into the 28th and 29th floors of the 42-storey Bank of America building, despite being intercepted by the helicopter.


"There was no doubt he died on impact," said Fire Department Captain Bill Wade.

As the crash happened on a Saturday, there were few people in the office building, and no casualities were reported there.

Only the area immediately around the crash site was damaged, and most of the building is expected to be open for business on Monday morning, although there are concerns about the risk of debris falling to the street below.

'Happy kid'

Although Bishop was a student pilot, he had been taking flying lessons since March and was not seen as a complete novice.

He had no record of any trouble with the police in the past.

"He was an honour student. He got straight As. He liked school. He was a happy kid," said Ross Stewart, one of his classmates.

Another classmate said that Bishop had read an essay out in class after 11 September attacks.

"It was real expressive about how he felt, how disappointed he was," said Derek Perryman.
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« Reply #279 on: February 18, 2010, 03:03:32 PM »

Glenn Beck is talking about it right now...I will know what really happened soon enough.
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