*BREAKING* 3 killed in Alabama university shooting

[redeux]

‘Oddball’ portrait of Amy Bishop emerges

Suspect’s family, pals offer clues

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?&articleid=1232943&format=&page=1&listingType=Loc#articleFull

As authorities searched for clues into what could have sent a University of Alabama neurobiology professor on an alleged killing spree, friends and family yesterday described Braintree native Amy Bishop as an awkward introvert on the brink of losing her teaching job.

Bishop’s husband, James Anderson, told the Herald his wife had been fighting the university for over a year about a tenure denial, and several months ago received a final decision. She was upset, but not overly emotional, approaching her appeal “like a game of chess,” he said.

Police in Huntsville, Ala., charged Bishop, 44, with capital murder after she allegedly opened fire on six colleagues at a faculty meeting Friday, killing three. Afterward, she calmly called her husband and asked him to pick her up as if nothing had happened, said police Chief Henry Reyes.


“She was an oddball - just not very sociable,” said Sylvia Fluckiger, a former lab technician who worked with Bishop in 1993.

Bishop acknowledged at the time being questioned in the bombing attempt of a Harvard medical doctor evaluating her on doctorate work, a professor with whom Bishop was known to quarrel, Fluckiger said.

Reyes confirmed he is working with the FBI to learn more about why Bishop was a suspect in the attempted bombing of Dr. Paul Rosenberg, who received a double-pipe bomb in the mail on Dec. 19, 1993. He ran from his Newton home with his wife, escaping without injury. The bomb never exploded.

“She was quite cavalier about it,” Fluckiger said of Bishop’s description of her interview with police. She said Bishop “grinned” as she described being asked by cops whether she’d ever taken stamps off an envelope and fastened them onto something else. “I cannot tell you what the grin meant,” Fluckiger said.

Seven years prior, Bishop shot her brother to death in Braintree in an incident that was ruled an accident at the time.

But Braintree police Chief Paul Frazier has raised questions about the handling of the case, and officials are investigating missing records in the 1986 death of 18-year-old Seth Bishop.

A classmate of Seth Bishop’s recalled yesterday that the boy, who was “painfully shy,” never talked about his older, only sibling.

“It was as if he was a complete stranger in her life. It seemed like a dysfunctional family. We just accepted them as being odd,” said the classmate, who spoke to the Herald on condition of anonymity.

Amy Bishop, he said, “wasn’t mean because she wasn’t someone you could get close to. She wasn’t an attractive girl, she didn’t have friends. She didn’t work at having friends. I think people probably, over time, learned to leave her alone.”

The Bishop household, he said, “was anything but a home . . . It was just a really dreary, dark place where there wasn’t a lot of love.”

Meanwhile, in an interview with the Chronicle of Higher Education, Anderson said he was searching for the “trigger” to his wife’s breakdown, and that he wondered whether an e-mail message - potentially in the form of a final tenure denial - might have upset her, because university higher-ups were known to send “nastygrams” on Fridays.

A family source said Bishop, a mother of four children - the youngest a third-grade boy - was a far-left political extremist who was “obsessed” with President Obama to the point of being off-putting.

But Mercedes Paz, a Brookline biochemist who also oversaw Bishop’s work in 1993, described her as a friend and a likable woman.

“She was a very good person,” said Paz, 81. “She was respectful and she did what she was supposed to do. I never saw anything that could make me think she was violent.”


I posted this over in the upcoming Obushama false flag this ALL TIES TOGETHER...... she is a POLITICAL EXTREMIST!!!!! What the f**k??? WHAT THE f**k DO THEY MEAN OBSESSED??? OBSESSED LIKE, WANTS TO f**k HIM, OR OBSESSED WANTS TO KILL HIM? STUPID JOURNALISTS.........

[starvosan]

Here are some high school pics of her and her brother--

http://secretsun.blogspot.com/2010/02/crimes-cover-ups-and-fringe-science.html

[One Revelator]

ATTN: US Media Personnel

If you are an editor or reporter that is on the payroll of Disney, "New" Viacom (and its former parent CBS Corporation, the former "Old" Viacom), TimeWarner, News Corporation, General Electric, or any of their affiliates

AND

you are reading this

THEN

this message is for you.

I understand that your primary job is perception management.  However, it has not always been that way.  Reporters used to be the shield between the public and powerful world interests by sticking to facts and reporting truth driven by conscience. Back then it was less about a paycheck and more about serving and protecting public interests and rights guaranteed by the constitution. As such, those in the news business were considered trusted servants of the people.  I know, I know, the ideology was different back then.  Somewhere in the interim, the ideology became about the power to influence masses of people to shape their lives.  Please note that the public is becoming less gullible by the minute as they realize that you have betrayed their trust.  And if they no longer believe you, then how effectively are you managing their perception?

The constant morphing of your reporting on the Amy Bishop case has become painfully obvious.  If you are monitoring this thread and spinning your reports due to the glaring inconsistencies that Prison Planet Forum has pointed out, then you are no longer running the show. We know this indeed happens due to the Blackjack fiasco last year with the Telegraph (a UK newspaper).  Back then they were only doing it for the lulz and to see if they could.  It is also obvious by the deluge of reports that paint Ms. Bishop as an undiagnosed mental patient, combined with zero reporting to the contrary that there is a definite agenda at work, an agenda that you’ve been told to carry out.

You may only be doing as your told for the sake of your paycheck and material well-being.  However, have you considered that your well-being comes at the expense of a fellow American’s life?  Believe it or not, many here on this forum consider certain things more important than little pieces of paper with pictures of dead presidents on them. Many have lost jobs and endured financial hardship.  Here’s a news flash for you.  Your paycheck may very well lose 30-50 percent of its value by the end of the year.  The people that you work for plan to chuck you aside like a rotten tomato or feed you to the dogs as soon as your usefulness to them is over. You are no longer a hero to, nor are you believed by the American people.  You have allowed yourself to be placed into a role of professional liar.

There is still a chance to restore the values that the press once had and you, reporter/editor are in a position to affect, even if just a little, that restoration.

[donnay]

I have asked this question before...how did the Huntsville Police Department know to call the Braintree Police Department to find out what Amy Bishop did in 1986?  If no arrests were made and no charges were filed then how did they know to call Braintree MA and ask question?

Are there any law enforcement people here to answer this question?

[donnay]

Inside the Shelby Center Shooting
Posted: Feb 16, 2010 07:02 PM

http://www.waaytv.com/Global/story.asp?S=11994872

Survivors of Friday's attack at the Shelby Center on the UAHuntsville campus are beginning to share their stories.

WAAY 31's Stephanie Beecken sat down with one woman, Dr. Debra Moriarity, who says Dr. Amy Bishop Anderson pointed a gun in her after killing three of her coworkers and wounding three others. She says she tried to crawl out of the room, but the shooter followed her.

"She stepped out into the hall, and pointed the gun at me, and pulled the trigger and it clicked, and clicked again.  I crawled right back in the room and shut the door," Dr. Moriarity said.

She says the routine is helping her heal especially after having a gun pointed in her face and being lucky enough to survive.

Minutes before this scene Dr. Debra Moriarity says she was in a mundane faculty meeting until she heard the gun shots and saw Amy Bishop Anderson shooting those around her.

That's when Dr. Moriarity got under the table.

"You're crawling under a table you see the legs of a person who's shooting above the table and I grabbed her leg I was just thinking grab her," she said.

Bishop Anderson pulled her leg free, Moriarity crawled through the doorway.

"I think she tried to shoot at me then but that's when I started yelling at her, 'Amy think about my grandson, think about my daughter.  This is me, I've helped you before I'll help you again and don't do this."

 Moriarity says her colleague didn't listen.

 "The looked angry when I first saw her someone who was mad at you and was going to shoot you and I don't think that changed."

 Dr. Moriarity says next they were both in the hallway.

 She stepped out into the hall and pulled the gun on me and pulled the trigger and it clicked and clicked again and I crawled back into the room and shut the door."

 Then everyone helped pull the table in front of the door and tend to those who had been shot.

 Moriarity says she never expected anything like this from the professor.

 "She was friendly to me and to the people that I saw her interact with she was out spoken about a lot of things on campus but a lot of people were."  

    As for those who were killed she says Dr. Gopi Podila was the first to be shot and the department chair will be greatly missed along with Dr. Maria Davis who Moriarity describes as the ‘sweetest person in the world'.

   "I'm really going to miss her. She was never down no matter what. She could see the end of the tunnel so we're really going to miss her," said Moriarity.

   Dr. Moriarity says she'll also miss Dr. Adriel Johnson.

"He was a long time member of the department like me and we used to tease each other about who would retire first so he was a wonderful, wonderful person," said Moriarity.

 She prays for the 3 others who were injured and hopes that one day they can return to campus.  

 "You can't always prevent evil things from happening there is evil in the world it is unfortunate that good people are hurt by that," said Moriarity.

 Despite what some are saying Dr. Moriarity tells us she is not a hero she was just doing what anyone else would do in that situation.

She emphasizes everyone in that room helped in some way.

 

Reporter:  Stephanie Beecken

[donnay]

Her husband accounts are shady at best too.  First he says they don't own a gun then he comes out and said Amy borrowed a gun from a friend and they went to a shooting range.  He should shut up while he is ahead if he wants to help her!

Killer Prof Just Didn't Want to Drive a Van for a Living, Chatty Husband Says
http://gawker.com/5472966/killer-prof-just-didnt-want-to-drive-a-van-for-a-living-chatty-husband-says?skyline=true&s=i

Amy Bishop, the biology professor who shot six of her colleagues, killing three of them, is a paranoid, angry woman who hates kids and was obsessed with a researcher who ended up in a dead-end job. (She also played D&D.)

Bishop's husband James Anderson is talking to anyone who can get him on the phone. He told ABC's Boston affiliate that he loves his wife and that he doesn't know why she did what she did. He told the Associated Press that he and Bishop went to a shooting range a few weeks ago but they didn't own a gun. He told The Chronicle of Higher Education (who have been all over over the story, today publishing an interview with the heroic biochemistry professor who locked Bishop out of the room before she could kill the rest of the assembled faculty) that Bishop called him from jail to ask of the kids had done their homework. He told ABC that his wife was "loved and respected by everyone," though that doesn't quite seem true: most interviews with colleagues and former coworkers of Bishop present the picture of a "socially awkward" "oddball."

And her neighbors hated her. She was one of those women who constantly calls the cops on kids for biking around the neighborhood and making noise. She videotaped neighborhood kids while they annoyed her with their afternoon scootering. Her own children weren't allowed to play with neighborhood kids. And, most evilly, she made the ice cream truck stop going through their neighborhood.

Bishop and her husband reportedly met in a Dungeons and Dragons club when they were at Northeastern (Anderson even answered a question about this, to The Boston Herald).

The New York Post adds a little chilling color to her presumed motive. Bishop apparently went nuts and opened fire because she'd been denied tenure (her husband said she got a mean email about it, too—if anyone finds the ticket stub in Bishop's possession, A Serious Man could become the 21st century's murder-inspiring Catcher in the Rye), and the Post reports that she was obsessed with the story of an academic researcher who lost his funding. The source, once again, is her husband:

    "She feared she'd end up like Douglas Prasher, a brilliant molecular chemist who had to abandon his research in 1994 when his funding dried up.

    His colleagues went on to the win the Nobel Prize in chemistry in 2008 based on his research. Prasher currently drives the courtesy van for a Huntsville Toyota dealership."

(We await the Politico exclusive on the literally tens of dollars a day that these van-driving pinhead liberal academics rake in.)

As you have probably gathered, Amy Bishop's husband will talk to anyone about literally anything. You should give him a call! Ask about the ice cream thing!

[oyashango]

Just pointing out something that the media has fouled up over and over along with the police recounts.  Amy Bishop is 45 on the 24th of April--not for nothing but in 1986 she was 21 and again she was an adult.

Okay Donnay.

However, Amy's chronological age (at least for me) would have no relevancy nor necessarily makes an accurate statement about her psychological and emotional age. They can (and appears to) be mutually exclusive in Amy's case.

In fact, the more I read, the more I am [almost] convinced that Amy is not the victim of some psychops,co-Intell, or mind control conspiracy. This just appears to be another tragic case of a genius escalating into madness. 

When she killed her brother, at minimum, she should have been removed from the home and placed in some kind of treatment facility so that she could have received some much needed theraphy.

[One Revelator]

Jonathan Curiel attempts to tie UAH shooting to race, to Obama, and to the Tea Party.  He seems to favor the Obama false flag scenario.

Race in America: Does racism explain the ‘tenure shooting’ and Tea Party movement?
Accused 'tenure shooter' Amy Bishop
In November of 2008, a prime debate was whether the United States – with Barack Obama’s election – lived in a post-racial society. Fifteen months later, the answer is a resounding, “hell, no.” The proof: last week’s shooting in Alabama, where a disgruntled white professor murdered three minority professors; and the growing success of the Tea Party movement, which is overwhelmingly white and increasing vocal in its violent dislike of the nation’s first black president.

The rest of his opinion is here:
http://trueslant.com/jonathancuriel/2010/02/17/race-in-america-does-racism-explain-the-%E2%80%98tenure-shooting%E2%80%99-and-tea-party-movement/

[donnay]

Sheriff speaks on housing Amy Bishop Anderson

By Jeanie Powell - bio | email

HUNTSVILLE, AL (WAFF) - Jim Anderson's wife remains in the Madison County Jail.

He tells WAFF 48 News he has had contact with his wife while she has been incarcerated on Wheeler Avenue and she asked how their children were doing.

Right now, Dr. Amy Bishop Anderson is being held in a single cell where she is observed every hour.

We also talked to Madison County Sheriff Blake Dorning.

He has had no direct contact with the suspect, but it is his job to house her.

Bishop Anderson was allowed an initial phone call after she was booked and there's a portable phone she can request to use, but it's on a very controlled basis.

The way it's set up, she won't be allowed outside contact for at least 30 days, unless it's her attorney.

As of Tuesday afternoon, local courts say the judge has not appointed counsel, nor approved a retained attorney for the suspect.

Dorning said considering the nature of this crime and in cases like this that may pose a security risk for the facility, the decision was made to place the inmate away from others, until she can be integrated.

WAFF 48 News asked if she was considered a threat to herself.

"We have been in constant contact with the jail staff and there has been no displays or any types of actions whether physically or verbally that she poses a threat to herself ," Dorning said.

We then asked the sheriff, "So is she not on suicide watch?"

Dorning said he can't say she's on suicide watch after explaining that when "we have someone who's brought into the facility and we put into this environment, it's a security factor and it's precautionary in the event they would want to. They wouldn't have the opportunity to injure themselves if they wanted to."

When asked if he was given any specific instructions with Bishop Anderson, the sheriff said she is treated like any other inmate in her situation.

Dorning said she has shown no aggression or disrespect to his staff.

©2010 WAFF. All rights reserved.

[donnay]

Trying to get more gun control!


Fighting to Keep Guns Off Campuses
By REBECCA R. RUIZ

Are guns allowed on your campus?

It’s a question prospective students might be asking of colleges in the wake of last week’s shooting at the University of Alabama in Huntsville. On Friday, a professor there who was denied tenure opened fire at a faculty members’ meeting and killed three professors.

In legislative debates, some have advocated the right to carry concealed weapons on campus, reasoning that having a gun protects the individual and the community and lessens the likelihood of a rampage like the one that at Virginia Tech in 2007 in which 32 students and faculty members were killed.

Others think firearms have no place in academic communities.

An organization called Gun Free Kids is of the latter school of thought, having started a Campaign to Keep Guns Off Campus in 2008.

“With binge drinking, drug use and the pressures that college students are under, we just think introducing guns into that environment, it’s the wrong thing to do,” said Andy Pelosi, director of the campaign, which has staff representatives in Illinois, Iowa and New York.

“We started this work in response to what the gun lobby has been doing in the past few years — we wanted to change the laws, to forbid guns on campus,” he continued. “We said, ‘Let’s see if we can build a coalition of college presidents and leaders.’”

The campaign has recruited the support of 120 institutions in 30 states.

“We’ve got institutions in Southern and Midwestern states supporting us,” Mr. Pelosi said. “It’s not like our supporters are just in New York, California, Connecticut and Massachusetts. Actually, we have less support in those places, because they don’t see guns as a threat.”

Currently, Mr. Pelosi said, 26 states forbid guns on college campuses, while 23 are silent on the issue, deferring to colleges themselves to shape policy. Utah is the only state that endorses on-campus possession, having ruled in 2004 that people age 21 and up may carry guns with a concealed-carry firearms license. (An earlier version of this post incorrectly gave the age as 24.)Update | 9:01 a.m.

In Utah’s case, Mr. Pelosi said, “The only giveback of that legislation was that if you were a parent or student who didn’t want to room with a person with a gun, you could opt out.”

In 2010, the campaign anticipates that Arizona — which has legislation pending that would enable professors to carry guns — will be a battleground state, along with Louisiana, Georgia, Michigan and Virginia.

“If there’s progress on the guns issue, it’s at the state level and not at the federal level, “ said Mr. Pelosi (who is not related to Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the House). “We need to keep an eye on grass-roots work. I think that’s where we have the best traction.”

The campaign has leveraged social media to engage student support and debate. “Students are the key here, and we’re making good contacts with them,” Mr. Pelosi said. “The piece we need to work on is getting news out to parents across the country.”

To find out about a particular campus’ record of violence, visit the federal Department of Education’s security data tool, maintained by the Office of Postsecondary Education.

[Brocke]

Reports detail dramatic day in '86 killing of brother
February 16, 2010 10:55 PM
http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/02/reports_detail.html

By Donovan Slack and Michael Rezendes, Globe Staff

Amy Bishop was crouched behind a parked car, gripping a pump-action shotgun with one shell in the chamber and another in her pocket. Workers at a nearby business were yelling, ‘‘There’s a girl with a gun!’’ and running away.

A police officer approached cautiously, holding his pistol behind his leg as he tried to reason with the wild-eyed 21-year-old. But Bishop would not budge.

‘‘Miss Bishop seemed frightened, disoriented, and confused, but she kept both her hands on the shotgun at all times,’’ the officer wrote in a police report. ‘‘She wouldn’t drop the gun.’’

It wasn’t until another officer sneaked up behind her that Bishop was finally handcuffed and taken to the Braintree police station that December day in 1986.

Bishop was not charged in the events of that day, which began with the shooting death of her brother and was followed by her attempt to hold up an auto dealership and her bid to resist arrest.

Now, she is a 45-year-old biology professor accused of gunning down three colleagues in Alabama last week, and prosecutors here in Massachusetts are taking another look at the incidents in Braintree in 1986.

They concluded Tuesday that there had been probable cause to charge her in the decades-old case, if not in the death of her brother, which was deemed accidental, then for her actions afterward.

The reports prosecutors used to make the determination — which included statements that Bishop, her mother, and her father made to Braintree police — were released publicly for the first time Tuesday and paint a vivid portrait of a harrowing series of events that chilly December day.

In some respects it seemed like a typical Saturday. Amy’s mother, Judy, left the house at about 7 a.m. to visit a nearby stable, while her husband and two children remained behind.

An unsettling incident then marred the domestic scene: Samuel, Amy’s father, said he had a disagreement with Amy over a comment she made, the nature of which has never been disclosed.

He then left the house at about 11:30 a.m. to do some shopping at the South Shore Mall, leaving Amy in her room while her brother, Seth, washed Samuel’s car, according to the police reports.

Amy ventured into her parents’ bedroom, where she found her father’s shotgun lying on a chest of drawers and shells for the gun resting on a bureau.

While Amy told police about the ‘‘spat’’ she had with her father, she insisted she went to her parents’ room for the shotgun because she was worried about a possible robbery, as the house had been burglarized about a year earlier.

After returning to her room, Amy loaded the gun, although she had never been trained to use the weapon. And when she tried to unload it, she told police, the gun went off, putting a hole in her bedroom wall, which she attempted to conceal with a book cover and a metal Band-Aid box later found by police.

Shortly before the gun went off in Amy’s room, her mother returned from the stable with lunch in mind. Discovering there was little to eat, Seth went out shopping and returned with the makings of a family meal.

He dropped the groceries in the family kitchen, moved into the living room to turn on the television, and returned to the kitchen just as Amy came downstairs carrying the shotgun.

Amy told police she went downstairs to ask Seth for help unloading it. Seth and his father were members of a local gun club and Seth had been trained to use the weapon. And upon entering the kitchen, Amy said, Seth told her to point the gun up.

When she did, she was distracted by something her mother said — perhaps her mother telling her not to point it at anyone — and the gun went off a second time, leaving her brother bleeding to death on the family’s kitchen floor, the reports said.

There were some discrepancies in the accounts Amy and her mother gave police. Amy said she asked Seth for help unloading the gun, for instance, while her mother said Amy asked her for help. But both accounts end with her shooting her brother in the chest.

Amy ran from the house, gripping the shotgun. She told police that ‘‘she thought she had dropped the gun when she ran.’’

But that was hardly the case, according to police reports.

Minutes later, workers discovered her in a stairway at the Dave Dinger Ford dealership. Thomas Pettigrew and Jeff Doyle said Amy pointed the shotgun at them and told them she wanted a car and a set of keys. She kept her weapon trained on them and backed out of the shop onto a nearby street.

Braintree police found her crouched behind a parked car, gripping the pump-action shotgun.

WTH!? Not only is this woman insane, someone helped her avoid prosecution when she murdered her brother.

It was a pump-action shotgun. To fire the second shot that killed her brother she would have to slide the pump ejecting the spent cartridge and loading a new one!

[One Revelator]

Trying to get more gun control!


Fighting to Keep Guns Off Campuses
By REBECCA R. RUIZ

Gee...the article completely fails to mention that there's already a  gun ban on the UAH campus.  Obviously it wasn't very effective.

[donnay]

Gee...the article completely fails to mention that there's already a  gun ban on the UAH campus.  Obviously it wasn't very effective.

Another "gun free zone" proves to be a failure.

[oyashango]

Jonathan Curiel attempts to tie UAH shooting to race, to Obama, and to the Tea Party.  He seems to favor the Obama false flag scenario.

The rest of his opinion is here:
http://trueslant.com/jonathancuriel/2010/02/17/race-in-america-does-racism-explain-the-%E2%80%98tenure-shooting%E2%80%99-and-tea-party-movement/

  That would be the same as asking: did Charles Manson’s murderous cult have anything to do with the assassination of Martin Luther King or JFK?  Or, could it have just been his incredibly jacked-up, dysfunctional childhood? His mom was a prostitute who dumped him off on anyone who would have him. He exhibited clear signs of rejection, emotional trauma, abandonment, rebellion and criminality amongst other things at an early age. Although he might have capitalized on the tumultuous events during that rocky period in history, there is no correlation between the two.  Amy might have been an “obsessive” Obama fan, but she appears to have taken everything she did in life to an extreme compulsive, obsessive level. It is clear that when she didn’t get her way, she simply eliminated her opponents. Her victims being African-American is mere coincidence if not irrelevant in Amy’s particular situation.

[One Revelator]

 That would be the same as asking: did Charles Manson’s murderous cult have anything to do with the assassination of Martin Luther King or JFK?  Or, could it have just been his incredibly jacked-up, dysfunctional childhood? His mom was a prostitute who dumped him off on anyone who would have him. He exhibited clear signs of rejection, emotional trauma, abandonment, rebellion and criminality amongst other things at an early age. Although he might have capitalized on the tumultuous events during that rocky period in history, there is no correlation between the two.  Amy might have been an “obsessive” Obama fan, but she appears to have taken everything she did in life to an extreme compulsive, obsessive level. It is clear that when she didn’t get her way, she simply eliminated her opponents. Her victims being African-American is mere coincidence if not irrelevant in Amy’s particular situation.

I’ve got to wonder how many people will take Mr. Curiel’s fabricated associations and run with it though?  Although I have confidence that the public would certainly see through this, I’m not so sure about the media.

[oyashango]

I’ve got to wonder how many people will take Mr. Curiel’s fabricated associations and run with it though?  Although I have confidence that the public would certainly see through this, I’m not so sure about the media.

If the average American Jane & Joe can’t see through this media manipulation, then shame on them. Shame on the author for exploiting this tragic situation just to sell papers. Everyone involved in this situation are victims, Amy as well. She is a victim of her own mental hell. Her parents failed her when they did not get her the medical treatment that she desperately needed. They also failed their dead son by not vindicating him even in death; by at least forcing Amy to own up to what she had done.  The local police failed both he and Amy by not bringing her to justice, or at least to a state of remorse, and sending her to a closed treatment facility.  They have tucked-tailed and are scurrying to cover their own tracks now that they have been exposed. Had they handled this case correctly, we would not be having this discussion, and those people might still be alive, and their families would not be grieving.  

This case has nothing to do with Obama, although he too is also a control freak, lair and grand narcissists to boot.
His presidency is already crashing and burning as we speak, without needing any fuel from Amy.  Yes, there are many problems facing us today. What concerns me is if it is allowed to simmer, the elitist will win. There will be internal strife and social unrest.  This “journalists” fueling the fire by making bogus mis-associations like this, is abominable and he should be called on it.

[donnay]

Students complained about prof charged in rampage
 
By JAY REEVES, Associated Press Writer Jay Reeves, Associated Press Writer   – 38 mins ago

HUNTSVILLE, Ala. – Students said they signed a petition and complained to no avail about the classroom conduct of an Alabama professor accused of killing three colleagues and wounding three others in a shooting rampage at a faculty meeting.

The students upset with biology professor Amy Bishop told The Associated Press they went to University of Alabama in Huntsville administrators at least three times a year ago, complaining that she was ineffective in the classroom and had odd, unsettling ways.

The students said Bishop never made eye contact during conversations, taught by reading out of a textbook and made frequent references to Harvard University, her beloved alma mater.

"We could tell something was off, that she was not like other teachers," said nursing student Caitlin Phillips.

Still, they said, they saw no sign she might turn violent.

Bishop is charged with one count of capital murder and three counts of attempted murder in the shootings Friday in a campus conference room where members of the biology department were meeting.

She is being held without bond and does not yet have an attorney. Police have not revealed a motive, but colleagues say she was vocal in her displeasure about being denied tenure in March of last year. Her appeal was denied in November.

There have been revelations since the shooting that she killed her brother with a shotgun in Braintree, Mass., in 1986 but was never charged because police said it was an accident, and that she and her husband were scrutinized in 1993 after someone sent pipe bombs to a Harvard professor she worked with. The bombs did not go off and no one was ever charged in that case either.

In 2002, Bishop was charged with assault, battery and disorderly conduct after a tirade at the International House of Pancakes in Peabody, Mass. Peabody police Capt. Dennis Bonaiuto said Bishop became incensed when she found out another woman had received the restaurant's last booster seat. Bishop hit the woman while shouting, "I am Dr. Amy Bishop," according to the police report.

"The whole incident was just stupid," Bishop's husband, James Anderson, said Wednesday.

Asked if he was referring to his wife's actions, he said: "Everything."

"It was way overblown," he said. "Someone trying to make something out of nothing."

He also defended his wife's teaching, saying the "vast majority" of students were happy with her. He said his wife taught the "cut course" for nursing students, who would either go on toward a degree or quit the program based on how they did in her class.

"If they didn't make it through, they didn't make it," he said. "So it's natural for some to be unhappy."

He said classroom performance was not an issue in her tenure file, which has not been made public.

Bishop's students said they first wrote a letter to biology department chairman Gopi K. Podila — one of the victims of Friday's shooting — then met with him and finally submitted a petition that dozens of them had signed.

"Podila just sort of blew us off," said Phillips, who was among a group of five students who met with him in fall 2008 or early 2009 to air their concerns.

After students met privately with Podila, Phillips said, Bishop seemingly made a point in class to use some of the same phrases they had so they would know she knew about it.

"It was like she was parroting what we had said," Phillips said.

University President David B. Williams said Tuesday that student evaluations were one of many factors in the tenure evaluation process, but he was unaware of any student petition against Bishop.

Other tenured professors in the department made the decision not to grant her tenure, a type of job security given to academics, but the votes of the committee were not made public. Podila was supportive of her, Williams noted.

[oyashango]

Update:  CNN reported this evening that:  The police report that was claimed to be "lost" has now been found. It was handwritten. It indicated that the police did not interview Amy or her mother until 11 days after the shooting. The police chief said that once he read it, it felt that there was probable cause to have arrested Amy for murder.

Also this:

Bishop’s husband, James Anderson, told the Chronicle of Higher Education yesterday that his wife had recently borrowed a handgun and had practiced with it at an indoor gun range. He said she would not tell him who loaned her the gun and was “very cagey.’’ He said she had been worried about “crazy students’’ since someone had followed her across campus last summer. But he said he warned his wife not to bring the gun to work.
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Amy Bishop Wrote a Novel “About a Virus That Made All Women Barren and Ended Mankind”; Other Novels About the IRA

A former Braintree police chief backed away yesterday from his earlier defense of a 1986 decision not to press charges against Amy Bishop, who shot her brother to death that year and then, on Friday, allegedly killed three of her colleagues at the University of Alabama.

John Polio, now 87, said in an interview yesterday that after reading a State Police report compiled in 1986 and released to the public last weekend, he has questions about the quality of the investigation into the death of Seth Bishop, which was declared an accident.

The report, which Polio said was not given to him at the time, reveals that State Police did not interview Amy Bishop and her mother, who witnessed the shooting, until 11 days later, and there were some discrepancies in their accounts of what happened.

“When I hear everything and I see this report for the first time, if this information was at my hands then, yes, I would have to do a lot of thinking before I made a decision then,’’ Polio said.

Polio’s comments came as Bishop, 45, stood before a judge in Alabama for the first time since the shooting. At a closed-door hearing, the charges against her were explained.

Meanwhile, in Massachusetts, neighbors and colleagues shared revealing recollections about Bishop during her days living in Braintree, Newton, and Ipswich and studying at Northeastern and Harvard universities. They described her as someone who was obviously bright, but also difficult or odd.

In Newton, neighbor Johnny Henk said he remembered Bishop as a “wacky’’ woman who was often seen yelling at her husband and children, but who also would play the violin in her home and invite neighborhood children to sit and listen.

“One minute she’s fine, the other minutes hollering and screaming,’’ Henk said.

In Ipswich, police said that Bishop called 911 so many times to complain about the noise of children riding dirt bikes or playing basketball that police referred to her and her husband as “regular customers.’’

“There was never enough we could do for them,’’ Officer Michael Thomas said. “When someone calls the police a lot about their neighbors, it says either they are not able to cooperate enough with them or that they are just unable to adapt to a neighborhood.’’

And in Hamilton, where Bishop joined a writing group, other aspiring authors recalled that the biologist-writer was talented but awkward. Bishop had penned three dramatic novels – a suspense thriller about an IRA operative; a tale about a virus that made all women barren and ended mankind; and a book she titled “Martians in Belfast,’’ which recounted the life of a girl growing up during the Troubles of Ireland, according to Rob Dinsmoor, a member of the Hamilton Writers Group, which Bishop attended in the late 1990s.

“She really had a knack for writing character, dread, and suspense,’’ Dinsmoor said. But, he said, she sometimes felt ill at ease in the academic world. “She didn’t know how to interact with them. She would just say what’s on her mind, and that would get her in trouble.’’

The shootings in Alabama dredged up some powerful memories for a former mechanic in Braintree, who was at work on the day in 1986 that Bishop shot her brother and then ran from the family home.

Tom Pettigrew said a wild-eyed Bishop burst into the dealership where he was working, pointed a shotgun at employees, and said that she had had a fight with her husband and he was going to come after her, so she needed a getaway car.

“I yelled, ‘What are you doing?’ and she screamed at me to put my hands up. So I put my hands up,’’ recalled Pettigrew, 45, in an interview at his home in Quincy yesterday.

Pettigrew said Braintree police briefly questioned him and several other employees, but authorities never contacted him again. Now, after the deaths in Alabama, Pettigrew wonders why authorities didn’t follow up more aggressively.

“It was almost like they wanted to put it on the shelf and forget about it,’’ said Pettigrew, whose encounter with Bishop was first reported by the Boston Herald yesterday. “I think if that happened to me I’d be wrapping up a long prison sentence. But with this, it seems like they just wanted it to go away.’’

Polio, the Braintree police chief at the time, said yesterday that he knew Bishop had to be apprehended at gunpoint, but he said he did not know she had pointed the shotgun at Pettigrew. Polio said he allowed officers to release Bishop on the day of the shooting because the lead investigator, Captain Theodore Buker, told him she was too emotional to interview.

Buker recommended that the case be handed to the district attorney’s office because “there were too many questions,’’ Polio said. Buker remained on the case, but State Police were the lead investigators, Polio said.

Polio said Buker, who has since died, told him the district attorney’s office had decided not to pursue the charges. Polio had no reason to question it at the time, he said yesterday.

“I took the word of my captain, I took the word of the State Police,’’ he said. “All I know is that they investigated, they found it to be accidental and that was it. But when I got all this other material . . . I found it to be deficient in answers.’’

In particular, Polio said, the report has too little information about ballistics.

Polio’s handling of the case has been questioned by the current Braintree police chief, Paul H. Frazier, and the mayor of Braintree, Joseph Sullivan, has pledged to look for missing police records about the case.

The district attorney who decided not to pursue charges against Bishop in 1986 was William Delahunt, now a member of Congress from Massachusetts.

Delahunt, who is in the Middle East, has not returned calls for comment over the last three days. Yesterday his spokesman, Mark Forest, said the congressman has “very little recollection’’ of the case but said his decision was based on a State Police investigation that declared the shooting an accident.

John Kivlan, Delahunt’s first assistant district attorney who reviewed the police reports into the shooting of Seth Bishop and accepted the police finding of an accident, yesterday acknowledged there were inconsistencies in the statements that Amy Bishop and her mother, Judy Bishop, provided. But he said those discrepancies did not challenge the overall finding by police that it was an accidental discharge.

Kivlan, however, said his assessment would probably have been different if he had been aware that Amy Bishop had fled the residence and pointed a shotgun at a man at a nearby car dealership, demanding keys to a car. He said that information was not contained in the report.

“At the end of the day, we don’t have to accept the [police] report given to us,’’ Kivlan said. “But there was nothing we knew of to contradict the finding of an accidental discharge.’’

State Police spokesman Dave Procopio said the trooper who conducted the investigation has retired, but that the agency will check its archives this week to see if there are additional records. A spokesman for the current Norfolk district attorney, William Keating, said that at this point, prosecutors have no reason to reopen the case.

Bishop is now facing one count of capital murder and three counts of attempted murder after allegedly shooting her colleagues during a faculty meeting Friday afternoon. Three people were killed and three others were injured.

Huntsville police spokesman Mark Roberts said yesterday that Bishop did not have a permit to carry the 9mm handgun she allegedly used Friday and investigators are still trying to determine who owned the gun and how Bishop acquired it.

Bishop’s husband, James Anderson, told the Chronicle of Higher Education yesterday that his wife had recently borrowed a handgun and had practiced with it at an indoor gun range. He said she would not tell him who loaned her the gun and was “very cagey.’’

He said she had been worried about “crazy students’’ since someone had followed her across campus last summer. But he said he warned his wife not to bring the gun to work.

http://cryptogon.com/?p=13672

[donnay]

Amy Bishop Wrote a Novel “About a Virus That Made All Women Barren and Ended Mankind”

And Stephen King wrote a novel, "The Stand" 

"When a government-run lab accidentally lets loose a deadly virus, the population of the world is decimated. Survivors begin having dreams about two figures: a mystical old woman, or a foreboding, scary man. As the story tracks various people, we begin to realize that the two figures exemplify basic forces of good and evil, and the stage is set for a final confrontation between the representatives of each."


Just saying...

[oyashango]

And Stephen King wrote a novel, "The Stand"  

"When a government-run lab accidentally lets loose a deadly virus, the population of the world is decimated. Survivors begin having dreams about two figures: a mystical old woman, or a foreboding, scary man. As the story tracks various people, we begin to realize that the two figures exemplify basic forces of good and evil, and the stage is set for a final confrontation between the representatives of each."


Just saying...

It was mentioned in the CNN news piece that Amy was the cousin of famous author and Academy Award-winning screenwriter, John Irving. According to their report, she tried to get him to help her get published. She claimed that she was frustrated at her job and wanted to make it big as an author.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20100217slay_suspects_mom_a_cousin_to_john_irving/

BTW: Amy's mother was on the board of the Braintree council, and had some local influence. Amy’s dad is also a professor. They are Jewish, and it is now being speculated that this could have been a "hate crime" because her victims were African-Americans and one was Indian. It is being speculated on some blogs that because she was Jewish, the media is playing this angle down. I donno. I just discern from the facts that Amy is an eccentric, narcissistic sociopath and must finally face justice for what she has done.

[donnay]

Ala. slay defendant is related to novelist John Irving

 By Meghan E. Irons, Globe Staff

Amy Bishop, who is accused of killing three colleagues at the University of Alabama and who penned novels in her spare time, is related to famed novelist John Irving.


Copyright Jane Sobel Klonsky

John Irving

Bishop is the second cousin of Irving, a New York-based publicist for the author confirmed today. Irving is writing a novel and declined to comment about his relationship with Bishop's family, except to say he is a cousin of Judith Bishop, who is Amy's mother, said the publicist Anne Tate, who works for Random House in New York.

“It’s official,’’ said Tate, who declined to respond to any further questions about the author’s closeness with the family. “Judith is his cousin.”

Acquaintances of Bishop,a Harvard-trained neurobiologist said she was a regular member of the Hamilton Writer's Group in the late 1990s when she lived in Ipswich and saw writing as her ticket out of academia.

She penned three novels for the group -- a suspense thriller about an IRA operative, a tale about a virus that made all women barren that ended mankind, and one called "Martians in Belfast,'' which recounts the life of a girl growing up during the Troubles of Ireland.

Bishop, book club acquaintances said, would frequently cite her Harvard degree and family ties to Irving to boost her credential as a serious writer.

Irving, who lives in Vermont, is a popular and acclaimed author whose novels include “Cider House Rules,’’ “Last Night in a Twisted River,” and "The World According to Garp."

Dinsmoor described Bishop, who often hosted the writer's group in her Ipswich home, as a "gritty" author who was heavy on details.

"She really had a knack for writing character, dread, and suspense,” said Dinsmoor, who said Bishop had a literary agent back then.

But another member of the book club said he was not impressed with Bishop and her interactions with the group. He described Bishop as a smart woman who felt entitled to praise.

"She had this sense that having been a professor and gotten her PhD from Harvard made her a little above other people,'' said the book club creator, who did not want to be named because of his close ties to the family. "And yet at the same time she used to park far way far from where we would meet because she didn’t want anyone to see her beat-up Chrysler.''

Dinsmoor said that Bishop could be blunt and abrasive to people, and was often prone to blurting whatever was on her mind.

"She lacked tact when we were criticizing our work,'' he said. "She would say things like, 'This doesn't work' or 'Get rid of that character' -- things like that. We were usually more polite."

[One Revelator]

Day 6 after the incident and very little has changed from starvosan’s previous statement:

So what is the actual evidence against this woman?

Confession?

No.


Eyewitness ID? 

2 stories released from inside the conference room.  The shape of the conference table varies from rectangle to circle.  There were 12 people in the room. 3 are dead, 3 wounded. That leaves 3 survivors with no released statements. Nobody noticed her in the bathroom, hallways, or outside during the arrest.


Video that places her at the scene?

Haven't seen it.


Gun Shot Residue on her hands?

No sign of it.


Has the gun seized at the scene been traced to her via chain of possession or fingerprint evidence?  Had that gun even been recently fired?

Beats me.


Was that gun traced to the bullets fired via forensic evidence?

Don't know.


What was the motive? 

The cops won't say.


If she is so damn guilty then where is the friggin' evidence?

The vast majority of reporting is focused on her character.

[donnay]

Day 6 after the incident and very little has changed from starvosan’s previous statement:

The vast majority of reporting is focused on her character.

I agree they have to build this picture of her being an absolute psycho--a psycho with a gun!

I am still wondering how any information was obtained if she had no record except maybe that IHOP assault incident.

[One Revelator]

I agree they have to build this picture of her being an absolute psycho--a psycho with a gun!

I am still wondering how any information was obtained if she had no record except maybe that IHOP assault incident.

Yeah.  It's like the driver is there in the seat, but he isn't actually driving the bus.

Amy Bishop case: Why no red flags were waved before shooting spree

Neurobiologist Amy Bishop, charged with killing three faculty colleagues at the University of Alabama-Huntsville, had a squeaky-clean public record despite several brushes with the law. There's more than one reason her record didn't follow her.

By Patrik Jonsson Staff writer / February 17, 2010

After Friday's bloodletting at the University of Alabama-Huntsville, police ran a background check on neurobiology professor Amy Bishop, who they suspect of methodically gunning down six colleagues, killing three.

 “Nothing came up,” said an Alabama police official.

Dr. Bishop’s public record showed her as a squeaky-clean, law-abiding citizen. Bishop had, in fact, a long record of interaction with police, including lodging dozens of complaints against neighbors and two cases of potentially murderous behavior. So, how did Bishop – an odd and cantankerous person by some accounts – pursue a career at high levels of academia without ever facing any fallout from a troubling rap sheet?

“There’s more than one reason why Amy Bishop slipped through the cracks,” says Jack Levin, a Northeastern University criminologist who has written extensively about mass murderers. “Local authorities dropped the ball. There’s a lack of coordination among [police] jurisdictions. And there’s gender: We don’t expect women to open fire with a semi-automatic 9 mm handgun, and statistically they don’t.”

Three brushes with the law

Most notable is the absence of charges resulting from the fatal shooting of Bishop's brother in 1986, a development that Professor Levin suggests could be a result of police “corruption or negligence.” (Meanwhile, Newsweek hints at a deeper conspiracy.)

Bishop, then 20, shot her 18-year-old brother and was apprehended still clutching the shotgun after a tense standoff with police. Questions are now multiplying about whether his death was accidental, as ruled, or was a homicide that followed a brother-sister argument. Bishop was not charged with anything in gun-wary Massachusetts – not even a violation for discharging a gun without a permit.

The revelation that Bishop and her mother were not interviewed until 11 days after the shooting caused some local police officials to now question the handling of the investigation into the death of Seth Bishop, a college student and virtuoso violin player.

“When I hear everything and I see this report for the first time, if this information was at my hands then, yes, I would have to do a lot of thinking before I made a decision then," former Braintree, Mass., police chief John Polio told The Boston Globe earlier this week. (State police had completed the investigation.)

In 1993, Bishop was a suspect, but was never charged, during an investigation into a mail bomb incident at the home of a Harvard University professor.

And police say charges were, in fact, filed against Bishop in 2002 after she punched another woman at a Massachusetts fast-food restaurant in a scuffle over a booster seat. She received probation and was ordered to take anger-management classes.

Alabama didn't know what Massachusetts knew

That arrest information apparently was not available to officials in Alabama, perhaps because of the of regional criminal background databases, Levin says. Even today, he says, “someone can commit an offense in Braintree, Mass., and that information may never get to Huntsville, Ala." (What’s more, workplace regulations in academia often make criminal background checks off-limits to search and hiring committees.)

But gender may be a major reason Bishop’s previous behavior escaped notice as she climbed the academic ladder. Numerous cases of male professors shooting colleagues are recorded in the annals of US crime, but there are only two in which female collegiates opened fire on colleagues.

“We wouldn’t expect a woman to even know how to use a shotgun in order to kill her brother, so we turn our backs to the possibility that women could commit such hideous acts of violence,” says Levin. “I think that’s part of it.”

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2010/0217/Amy-Bishop-case-Why-no-red-flags-were-waved-before-shooting-spree

Solution:  More interoperability. (see articles by Anti_Illuminati)  More fusion centers.  More centralized control.  Less state authority.

[donnay]

Lawyer: Prof. accused in slayings likely insane

By JAY REEVES, Associated Press Writer Jay Reeves, Associated Press Writer   – Fri Feb 19, 3:07 am ET

HUNTSVILLE, Ala. – An Alabama college professor accused of killing three colleagues during a faculty meeting is likely insane, and she can't remember the shootings, her attorney said.

Roy W. Miller, the court-appointed attorney for Amy Bishop, told The Associated Press in an interview Thursday that his client has severe mental problems that appear to be paranoid schizophrenia. Miller discussed the case hours after hundreds of mourners attended the first funeral and memorial services for Bishop's slain co-workers.

Authorities said three more people were hurt when Bishop pulled out a handgun and started shooting during the routine meeting with colleagues last Friday. Charged with capital murder and attempted murder, she is being held without bond.

Miller said Bishop's failure to obtain tenure at the University of Alabama in Huntsville was likely a key to the shootings. Bishop, who has a doctorate from Harvard University and has taught at the University of Alabama in Huntsville since 2003, apparently was incensed that a lesser-known school rejected her for what amounted to a lifetime job.

"Obviously she was very distraught and concerned over that tenure," Miller said. "It insulted her and slapped her in the face, and it's probably tied in with the Harvard mentality. She brooded and brooded and brooded over it, and then, `bingo.'"

Miller said Bishop seems "very cogent" in jail, where he has spent more than three hours with her over two days, yet she also seems to realize she has a loose grip on reality.

"She gets at issue with people that she doesn't need to and obsesses on it," Miller said. "She won't shake it off, and it's really (things of) no great consequence."

Bishop, who claims an IQ of 180, can't explain the shootings, he said.

"She says she does not remember anything about it," said Miller.

The chief prosecutor in Huntsville said he would not oppose a mental evaluation for Bishop, 45.

"In this case as in all cases, if they want to start talking about a mental defense, then have at it. We'll be ready when it comes to court," said Madison County District Attorney Robert Broussard.

Miller said he expects prosecutors to seek the death penalty, but Broussard said his office hasn't decided whether to seek Bishop's execution or a sentence of life without parole if she is convicted.

"We'll wait until we have every piece of evidence in front of us to decide on that," said Broussard. He said investigators had yet to review evidence about Bishop's troubled past, including her fatal shooting of her younger brother in 1986 in a case authorities in Massachusetts ruled accidental.

In Bishop's only public comments since the slayings, the teacher said the shootings "didn't happen. There's no way."

"What about the people who died?" a reporter asked as she was led to a police car hours after the killings.

"There's no way. They're still alive," she responded.

The shooting decimated the biology department — of 14 members, six were killed or wounded, one is jailed, and the rest are dealing with the shock and loss of colleagues. Two of those shot were hospitalized in critical condition Thursday, while another who was shot in the chest has been released.

Mourners hugged and cried Thursday at a memorial service for biology department chairman Gopi K. Podila. A long line of mourners moved slowly from the funeral home lobby, down a hallway and before an open casket in the sanctuary.

He was remembered as a father figure who cared deeply about his students, the kind of professor who kept his office door open in case they needed to talk about personal problems. Former student Joy Agee recalled that he helped her overcome her anxiety about a speech to a community group by showing up in the audience.

"He told me if I got nervous during the speech to just look at him and just talk to him," she said.

Podila had supported Bishop's tenure application.

After the service for Podila, more than 100 people attended a service held by the Council on African-American Faculty for slain biology professors Adriel Johnson and Maria Ragland Davis.

Johnson had organized the council at UAH in 2004, while Davis helped promote it in recent years. The two were among seven black faculty members at the school at the time, a number that had grown to 14 prior to their deaths. Overall, the school has 340 full-time faculty members.

"We have not only lost two founding members of our group but we have also lost two of our biggest advocates," said Sonja Brown-Givens, the council's current president.

___

Associated Press writer Desiree Hunter in Huntsville contributed to this report.

[oyashango]

Roy W. Miller, the court-appointed attorney for Amy Bishop, told The Associated Press in an interview Thursday that his client has severe mental problems that appear to be paranoid schizophrenia. Miller discussed the case hours after hundreds of mourners attended the first funeral and memorial services for Bishop's slain co-workers.

Miller said Bishop seems "very cogent" in jail, where he has spent more than three hours with her over two days, yet she also seems to realize she has a loose grip on reality.

"She gets at issue with people that she doesn't need to and obsesses on it," Miller said. "She won't shake it off, and it's really (things of) no great consequence."

The above says it all. There were eyewitnesses to the shooting, first hand accounts of her bizarre and erratic behaviors, and an old police report that actually shows there was probable cause to arrest and charge her with the murder of her brother. Amy's mental condition has been deteriorating for years. Her grip on reality has been suspect for years by those around her. If those children were allowed to speak or her husband would reveal the goings-on in their home, we would probably be shocked. No one apparently ever demanded or forced her to get treatment. I see no conspiracy or setup with this woman. She is just very sick.

[starvosan]

Roy W. Miller, the court-appointed attorney for Amy Bishop, told The Associated Press in an interview Thursday that his client has severe mental problems that appear to be paranoid schizophrenia.

Is he an attorney or a doctor?  What exactly did Amy say to make him believe this?

Miller said Bishop's failure to obtain tenure at the University of Alabama in Huntsville was likely a key to the shootings.
"Obviously she was very distraught and concerned over that tenure," Miller said. "It insulted her and slapped her in the face, and it's probably tied in with the Harvard mentality. She brooded and brooded and brooded over it, and then, `bingo.'"

And he knows this how?  Sounds to me like her ''defense'' attorney is sobotaging his own 'mental defect' defense.  The family is better off dumping this gub'mint pogue and hiring someone who is really in their corner.

Miller said Bishop seems "very cogent" in jail

True schizophrenics usually babble incoherently or nonsensically, one word NEVER used to describe them is ''cogent.''

Bishop.... can't explain the shootings, he said.
"She says she does not remember anything about it," said Miller.

A classic symptom of mind-control manipulation.

[donnay]

Is he an attorney or a doctor?  What exactly did Amy say to make him believe this?

And he knows this how?  Sounds to me like her ''defense'' attorney is sobotaging his own 'mental defect' defense.  The family is better off dumping this gub'mint pogue and hiring someone who is really in their corner.
True schizophrenics usually babble incoherently or nonsensically, one word NEVER used to describe them is ''cogent.''

A classic symptom of mind-control manipulation.

Great assessment Starvosan! 

I cannot understand why James Anderson did not seek an attorney immediate!  PD's are the very worst!

[starvosan]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/20/us/20alabama.html?ref=us
Though he seemed to be preparing an insanity defense for his client, Mr. Miller backed away from an earlier statement to the Associated Press that his client was a “paranoid schizophrenic”

Why did he do that?  He may have dropped an essential clue as to what Amy Bishop is telling him.  There are two possibilities--
--she told him she was hearing 'voices' telling her to kill, like so many other whack shooters have expereienced, or, more likely,
--the emphasis was on the 'paranoid' part.  She may have claimed that she was set up by the government, who told her she was going to take part in a 'safety' drill.  ''We want to test campus security.  Here, take this gun into the school.....''


http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/amy-bishop-husband-alleged-university-alabama-shooter-loving-mother-wife/story?id=9883895&page=2
''The lights are on 24 hours a day in Dr. Amy Bishop's cell.''

Yeah, they probably have a 400 Watt mercury halide burning 10 feet above her concrete 'bed,' with it's tranformer humming loudly.  Like I said, these are psychological torture tactics.  And she is not allowed any visitors other than her lawyer.  Deny the defendant all comfort. In a couple of months she will have been broken and will accept some plea 'deal' where she gets to go away forever.  The only thing she can hope to negotiate on is if her children will be allowed to visit her.


Also, her eldest daughter is a student at UA/Huntsville, and no mother would have caused her kid that much embarassment.

[starvosan]

The other person who was seen being led away in cuffs was indentified as a student in one of Amy Bishops lab classes.

http://blog.al.com/breaking/2010/02/police_chief_says_uah_shooting/859/comments.html
Police Chief Henry Reyes mentioned her in the press conference this morning. According to Reyes, the woman had shell casings in her pocket that weren't from the shooting. Apparently, a student had given them to her earlier in the day, and police wanted to check out her explanation for carrying the casings before they let her go. They held her at the scene for a little while until they could clear up the confusion. She was not arrested or charged with any crime. We removed the photos of her from our photo gallery as a precaution -- We didn't want anyone to confuse her with the suspect.

Posted by madison
She was a student working in Bishop's lab when the shooting occurred. Police mistook her for Amy Bishop.


A lab student to Amy Bishop just happens to be walking around with shells in her pocket on that day?  Who is this student who gave her the shells?  Where did he get them?  Were they 9mm shells?  Did they smell like they had recently been fired?  Did the police find all the shells fired in the conference room where the shootings took place?   If a someone at a shooting scene had suddenly wanted to give me 'shells,' I would tell them to call campus security or the police. The last thing I would have wanted was to have my fingerprints on them, on that day.

You remember the origonal story as it came out was ''two people arrested.''  Then it was ''shooter and her husband arrested.''  Then finally it became ''shooter arrested and husband detained.''  Given that the posters who saw the missing photo I cited previously were almost certain this was a man dressed as a woman, one has to wonder if this 'woman lab student' arrested wasn't really her husband, in drag.  He, after all, had motivation to want to help her get rid of the evidence.  Though this would imply that Amy stopped to pick up shell casings in the conference room, and the eyewitnesses didn't mention that.

The woman's clothing part I don't get.

[donnay]

Starvosan,

This case gets weirder by the minute. 

I think Congressman Bill Delahunt's political ambitions are now dead if he had any.  This is the Willie Horton moment for him.

I am still perplexed with her husband's chattiness to the press and his inability of getting her a damn good lawyer to represent his wife and the mother of his children!

I will definitely agree with you that they are wearing her down to get her to confess to everything--hey, for all we know she could be the REAL Kennedy assassin! 

The student carrying the shells is another twist indeed.  I want more info about her but the press has not provided much.

The PD changing the insanity defense would have left the door open for them to bring up the 1986 incident into the same courtroom.  So far the media has done a bang up job bringing all this information to the public--basically, a fair trial is not going to be easy, regardless.  Whether she is innocent or guilty everyone deserves a fair trial!

[oyashango]

The other person who was seen being led away in cuffs was indentified as a student in one of Amy Bishops lab classes.

http://blog.al.com/breaking/2010/02/police_chief_says_uah_shooting/859/comments.html
Police Chief Henry Reyes mentioned her in the press conference this morning. According to Reyes, the woman had shell casings in her pocket that weren't from the shooting. Apparently, a student had given them to her earlier in the day, and police wanted to check out her explanation for carrying the casings before they let her go.

Now, this IS a strange twist. My question is, why would she choose Amy, out of all of her professors, to give the shells to, since the majority of the students viewed her as "strange" to begin with. Better yet, why would this student bring shells to school in the first place?

[Joe(WI)]

It made New York Times, page D4. I wonder what everyone else thinks of the whitewash, NO₂ it toxic! She knew different.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/23/science/23bish.html?ref=science
A Murder Suspect’s Worth to Science

By GINA KOLATA
Published: February 22, 2010

Amy Bishop, neuroscientist, inventor, murder suspect, has become bigger than life, a symbol for those who think that genius is close to madness, or that women cannot get ahead in science, or that tenure systems in universities are brutalizing — or even that progress against fatal diseases is so important that someone like Dr. Bishop should be set free to pursue cures.

At least that is what emerges from hundreds of comments on the Internet about Dr. Bishop, the assistant professor at the University of Alabama in Huntsville charged with shooting six colleagues — three of them fatally — at a faculty meeting on Feb. 12.

“Perhaps the saying ‘There’s a fine line between genius and insanity’ has a lot of truth to it,” George from Pennsylvania wrote at nytimes.com.

Many posted comments like this: “I do not approve of what Dr. Bishop did, but I understand her frustration.” Being denied tenure “in spite of her contributions past and future,” the writer added, “is sufficient to provoke a murderous rage against the chairman and the university.”

Another popular sentiment: “I can’t help but observe that this was a woman in a male-dominated institution in a male-dominated field in a conservative part of the country.”

And on a forum devoted to amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, or A.L.S., commonly known as Lou Gehrig’s disease, a person wrote: “I hope they turn her loose again. Sounds like she knew what she was doing in A.L.S. That’s more than we have now.”

In fact, scientists who have looked at Dr. Bishop’s résumé said they saw no evidence of genius, no evidence of a cure for diseases like A.L.S., no evidence that she even could have gotten tenure at a major university.

Most of her work was on nitric oxide, a gas that can transmit signals between nerves. High levels of nitric oxide, she proposed, might set off degenerative diseases like A.L.S., and cells treated with low levels of the gas might build resistance. But that is far from proven, scientists said, and the idea was not original with Dr. Bishop.

R. Douglas Fields, chief of the nervous system development and plasticity section at the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development, said of Dr. Bishop’s work, “I don’t think it was groundbreaking — quite the opposite.”

She had nothing published in 2007 and 2008, and during her six years at the university in Huntsville she published three papers that appeared to be original research articles, none of them in major journals — often a requirement for tenure.

Christopher E. Henderson, co-director of the Columbia University Center for Motor Neuron Biology and Disease, noted that in Dr. Bishop’s published papers, her name did not appear in the last position, which ordinarily designates the senior author.

Dr. Michael L. Shelanski, chairman of the department of pathology and cell biology at Columbia, said that while standards might vary at other universities, “we would not hire her nor would she be recommended by the department for tenure.”

One 2009 paper, was published in The International Journal of General Medicine. Its publisher, Dovepress, says it specializes in “open access peer-reviewed journals.” On its Web site, the company says, “Dove will publish your paper if it is deemed of interest to someone, therefore your chance of having your paper accepted is very high (it would be a very unusual paper that wasn’t of interest to someone).”

As for her invention of an automated system to grow cells in the lab, which would be a very expensive substitute for petri dishes, scientists said they saw no need for it and would not even want to automate the sort of hands-on work that drew them to science in the first place.

So what is going on? Why did people who knew Dr. Bishop only through reading about her crime make excuses for her?

Jonathan D. Moreno, a professor of medical ethics and the history and sociology of science at the University of Pennsylvania, thinks reactions have to do with a long tradition that goes back to Plato. The idea, he said, is that someone who is very intelligent is assumed to be “morally wise.” And that makes it hard to reconcile the actions of Amy Bishop, with her Harvard Ph.D., her mantle of scientific brilliance.

“There’s a common-folk psychology,” Dr. Moreno said. “If you are that smart, you know the difference between right and wrong.”

“That is what’s going on,” Dr. Moreno said. “In cases like hers that contradict the framework, we look for excuses.”

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Article about Neuroscience.  Bishop was the only neuroscientist listed in the biology department:

Neuroscience and National Security: The Complex Relationship between Science and the Military
The military commonly enlists science in its efforts. But when science is humanity, the relationship gets a little stickier

by Emily Badger

Global Research, February 15, 2010
Miller-McCune - 2010-01-22
Neuroscience and national security go together somewhat uneasily. Stick the two in a single sentence, and University of Pennsylvania historian Jonathan Moreno starts getting e-mails from all kinds of people who are sure they’ve been brainwashed by the CIA. (It might not help his inbox that he wrote a book called Mind Wars: Brain Research and National Defense.)

“It’s hard to talk about these issues in part because we have kind of a paranoid popular-culture background,” Moreno said. Maybe you’ve seen The Manchurian Candidate, or, more recently, The Men Who Stare at Goats.
Neuroscience and national security, though, sit at the forefront of the complex relationship between science and the military, bedfellows that have produced not just compelling fiction, but also real dilemmas for the researchers who bridge them.

The American Association for the Advancement of Science hosted a conference today of its year-old Science and Human Rights Coalition, a group whose joint concerns are embodied most starkly in the application of science to war.

“The human rights frame is almost completely missing from this discussion,” said Len Rubenstein, the former executive director of Physicians for Human Rights and now a visiting scholar at Johns Hopkins. He spoke at the conference’s opening session. “The question of research for military purposes and scientific activity for military purposes is usually viewed either through the frame of professional ethics or scientific integrity. If human rights is introduced at all, it comes through the question of human subjects research with the Nuremberg Code.”
Scientists ought to consider, he argues, the broader question of human rights in work that ranges from weapons development to anthropology. As the science and potential military applications have grown more sophisticated, it follows that the ethics are now more complex, too.

Researchers, for instance, are already mulling whether beta-blockers could be used to reduce feelings of guilt in soldiers who do the unpleasant work of interrogation. Conversely, scientists wonder if oxytocin could induce trust in the interrogated. And what if neuro-imaging could help indicate what combatants are thinking? Or if brain monitoring could track how soldiers handle stress in training?

“We’re moving clearly more and more in the direction of being able to manage neural activity, manage behavior, attitudes and perception at a distance,” Moreno said.

Rubenstein, in response, pointed to the little-recognized Article 22 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. It entitles a person to social security indispensable for both dignity and “the free development of his personality.”

“When we have weapons that are deliberately designed to change people’s personalities, to manipulate people’s personalities, we have a problem,” Rubenstein said. “Not only an ethical problem, not only a national security problem, we have a human rights problem.”

It’s not that human rights are opposed to national security, Rubenstein argues; this is why the Geneva Conventions attempt to regulate conduct in war, not oppose war all together. From there, the distinctions are important. Weapons incapable of discriminating between combatants and civilians — like land mines or cluster bombs — violate human rights, he said, suggesting scientists who contribute to developing them must bear this in mind.

The most public example of murky scientific involvement in warfare has come from the Pentagon’s Human Terrain System, a controversial program to embed anthropologists with soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq. The Department of Defense billed the program, which was unveiled in 2007, as a path toward greater cultural understanding and, ultimately, less violence.

But the American Anthropological Association roundly denounced the program. The participating anthropologists typically wear military uniforms and sometimes carry firearms. The military has insisted the program isn’t designed to gather intelligence for combat, but the AAA questioned how the one can ever be separated from the other in the context of war.

The Human Terrain System, the AAA concluded, violates many of the association’s main ethical tenets, including the obligation to do no harm and to obtain “informed consent” from subjects — something it may be impossible to give when facing a scientist in uniform.

In the new worlds of asymmetrical warfare, counterterrorism and neuroscience, however, all of the ethical guidelines may not yet be written.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=17612

I still see a possible military affiliation through her listed NASA collaborator (reply 13).   Robert Richmond was contracted by U.S. Army Medical Research at Fort Detrick (bioweapons facility) to do medical experiments.  I still don’t think we’re getting the whole story.

She says she doesn’t remember the shooting.  The whole mental “blotting out” of a traumatic event is right in line with classic MK.  With some of the more disjointed comments from her husband, I gotta wonder about him too.

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Old story is similar to Ala. prof's Mass. shooting
By JAY LINDSAY, Associated Press Writer Jay Lindsay, Associated Press Writer   – 18 mins ago

CANTON, Mass. – Investigators have discovered that a newspaper on triple murder suspect Amy Bishop's bedroom floor when she killed her brother more than 20 years ago described an incident strikingly similar to what she did that day, raising questions about her claim it was an accident.

Norfolk District Attorney William Keating said investigators found the date of the newspaper after enlarging a police photo of the scene. He said the newspaper contained an article about a shotgun killing in which the suspect stole a getaway car from a dealership.

Bishop, now accused of killing three colleagues at an Alabama university this month, said she accidentally killed her teenage brother with a shotgun at their suburban Boston home in December 1986. She then went to a car dealership body shop and tried to commandeer a car at gunpoint, police said.

"We were struck by how parallel the circumstances were," Keating said. "That could go to the state of mind of Amy Bishop at the time."

Keating declined to be specific about the incident in the paper. Boston newspapers were reporting the incident was about the November 1986 killing of the parents of actor Patrick Duffy, who starred in the TV series "Dallas." They were slain with a shotgun during a robbery attempt at a Montana bar they owned. The two teen suspects then stole a truck at gunpoint from a car dealership. They were arrested after a high speed chase.

On Thursday, Keating ordered an inquest into the shooting of Bishop's brother, Seth Bishop, saying there are new questions about whether it was the accident investigators concluded at the time.

The handling of the case has been under scrutiny since Amy Bishop was accused of killing three faculty colleagues and wounding three others in a shooting Feb. 12 at the University of Alabama-Huntsville.

Keating said the inquest would allow a judge to subpoena Bishop's parents, who refused to talk with state troopers who went to their home last week, saying they had retained an attorney.

"Had they cooperated and we thought their answers were forthright and truthful," Keating said, "this might not have been necessary."

Bishop's mother was the only other witness to the killing. An attorney for the Bishops, Bryan Stevens, did not immediately return a call seeking comment Thursday.

Judge Mark Coven, presiding judge in Quincy District Court, will conduct the closed-door inquest and report his findings to Keating, who would then decide whether to pursue an indictment. The only possible charge that could be filed is murder because the statute of limitations on all other counts, including manslaughter, has expired.

The fact that the only other eyewitness says the shooting was an accident is "a huge burden to overcome," Keating said.

Police reports released by Keating last week said Amy Bishop told police she accidentally fired the shotgun in her bedroom, then went downstairs to ask her brother for help unloading the gun, which her father bought after a break-in.

She said after the gun accidentally went off again, hitting her brother, she fled, believing she dropped it, the reports said. She was arrested with the shotgun at gunpoint. She said she did not remember anything from when she fired the gun the second time until she was at a police station later.

Bishop was released after her mother went to the police station, and police didn't question Bishop or her family for 11 days, among the serious errors Keating said were committed in the 1986 investigation.

Keating said his investigation indicates Bishop was calm and cooperative after she was arrested, contrary to police assertions at the time that she was too hysterical to be questioned.

"The more information we got, the more we looked at reports, the more questions we had," Keating said.

The inquest won't focus on how the investigation was handled, but some of what the judge finds could be used by state police, who are reviewing the original investigation, Keating said.

Seth Bishop's death is among several incidents involving Amy Bishop, a Harvard University-educated neurobiologist, that are being re-examined, including when she and her husband were questioned but never charged in the 1993 attempted mail bombing of a medical researcher who gave her a bad job review. The U.S. attorney in Boston is reviewing its actions in that case.

Bishop also was charged with assault and disorderly conduct after a fight over a child booster seat in a restaurant in 2002. The charges were dismissed after six months' probation.

Bishop 45, is charged with capital murder and attempted murder in the Alabama shooting. Colleagues say she had complained for months about being denied the job protections of tenure.

In Bishop's only public comments since the Alabama shootings, she said they "didn't happen."

A police spokesman in Huntsville, Ala., said it was unclear whether information gathered in a Massachusetts inquest could be used in the capital murder case against Bishop in Alabama.

"It's too bad they didn't do a good investigation up there the first time," Sgt. Mark Roberts said. "If they had in 1986, we might not be where we are today in 2010."

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AP reporter Jay Reeves in Birmingham, Ala., contributed to this report

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There is no way they can prosecute Amy Bishop for the 1986 case and win.  The only reason for bringing all this up is to smear her in the public eye and to pressure her by squeezing her parents.  I have a feeling that their whole case against her for the UofA/Huntsville murders is far weaker than has been let on.

[donnay]

Attorney: Bishop's parents to cooperate, have 'nothing to hide'
February 26, 2010 02:23 PM

By Donovan Slack, Globe Staff

Judith and Samuel Bishop will cooperate in the judicial inquest into the fatal shooting of their son by their daughter in 1986, but they are sticking by their original assertion that it was an accidental shooting, their lawyer said today.

The Bishops, who have refused to speak publicly since their daughter allegedly killed three people earlier this month in a shooting rampage in Alabama, declined to speak with State Police investigators reviewing the death last week but will testify in the inquest, the lawyer, Bryan Stevens, said.

"They have nothing to hide," he said.

Norfolk District Attorney William R. Keating initiated the inquest yesterday after he said the Bishops -- the only witnesses to the 1986 shooting -- refused to cooperate and his investigators discovered evidence that suggests their daughter, Amy, may have shot and killed her 18-year-old brother on purpose. Keating said crime scene photos show there was a newspaper article in Amy Bishop's bedroom that chronicled a crime spree that closely mirrored her activities that day. In addition, Keating noted discrepancies in the Bishops' statements to police.

The lawyer who is defending Amy Bishop in the Alabama shootings also said today that he believes the judicial inquest could turn up information that will help him to mount an insanity defense. He said the same of a federal review initiated this week of an attempted mail bombing of one of Bishop's graduate professors. Bishop had been questioned in the 1993 incident but was never charged.

"My position on this is, if you ever got right down to the truth of the matter of what occurred in those areas up there, I think I would be in a better position to prove she's got a horrible mental defect and has had it a long, long time," said the lawyer, Roy W. Miller.

[donnay]

Papers Link Husband of Professor to ’93 Threat
By KATIE ZEZIMA


Jim Anderson was linked in documents to a professor who received a pipe bomb.

BOSTON — The husband of the neuroscientist accused of killing three colleagues at the University of Alabama in Huntsville told a witness he wanted to harm a Harvard professor who was later mailed a pipe bomb in 1993, according to newly released federal documents.

James Anderson Jr., the husband of Amy Bishop, wanted to “shoot,” “stab” or “strangle” the professor, Paul Rosenberg, according to documents released Tuesday by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

Dr. Bishop had worked for Dr. Rosenberg in the neurobiology lab of Children’s Hospital in Boston, but resigned because Dr. Rosenberg felt that she “could not meet the standards required for the work,” according to the documents, first reported by The Boston Globe. Dr. Bishop was “reportedly upset” and “on the verge of a nervous breakdown,” according to the documents, which cited interviews with witnesses.

Although the names in the document were blacked out by the bureau, it was released in response to a request for files about the investigation of Dr. Bishop and Mr. Anderson, and the context of the information makes their identities clear.

The couple were repeatedly questioned by investigators in connection with the attempted bombing and, documents show, were served search warrants, but were never charged. The bomb did not go off.

Dr. Bishop is accused of shooting to death three colleagues and wounding three others on Feb. 12 at a faculty meeting.

In a telephone interview from his home in Huntsville, Mr. Anderson denied that he had ever threatened Dr. Rosenberg.

“I wouldn’t know the guy if he walked into a bar,” he said of Dr. Rosenberg. “And allegedly this tip came into a tip line, and the validity of the witness was never ascertained.”

Mr. Anderson said his wife had been cut from the lab only because her project ran out of money.

The authorities investigating the mail bomb collected evidence from the homes and offices of Dr. Bishop and Mr. Anderson, including notepads, epoxy and receipts for levers and screws, but they were “unable to tie any of the items” to the device mailed to Dr. Rosenberg, the documents say. The authorities also found a receipt for a store in Huntsville that sold guns and black powder, though they could not find those items in the couple’s residence.

Dr. Bishop and Mr. Anderson were photographed and fingerprinted to check for matches on pieces of tape found on the explosive device. The couple once refused to open the door to the authorities, prompting officers to enter through a window; they also refused searches of their home and polygraph tests.

Dr. Rosenberg received a package containing two six-inch pipe bombs connected to nine-volt batteries after returning from a vacation in December 1993.

Law enforcement officials said they were reviewing the 1993 case. Representatives from the United States attorney’s office and the firearms bureau could not be reached for comment.

Shaila Dewan contributed reporting from Atlanta.

[starvosan]

Paramount Studio movie ''Shutter Island'' --  A UofA/Huntville massacre synchronicity?


I saw the new movie 'Shutter Island,'' starring Leonardo de Caprio, recently at the theatre.  He plays a US Marshal who comes to a remote island that houses an institution of the criminally insane to investigate the disappearance of an escaped patient.  The patient, a woman, had been sent there because she had killed three people.  Later he finds her, and finds out that in reality she was a doctor at the facility who had discovered evidence of MK-Ultra mind control experimentation, and was turned into a patient because she was threatening to expose the operation.

Now compare this to the situation in Huntsville.  Amy Bishop, a doctor(PhD), faces life in an institution for the criminally insane, because she killed three people.

Ok, this is a little slim.  But Amy Bishop was known to do research in the neurosciences.  Maybe she stumbled on stuff she wasn't supposed to know about.  The movie was released just a week after the killings, though it was origonally supposed to have been released three months earlier.  And the character of the doctor in the movie does, in my mind, bear a strong resemblance to Amy Bishop, at least in her facial features. 

Whatever.

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[donnay]

Paramount Studio movie ''Shutter Island'' --  A UofA/Huntville massacre synchronicity?


I saw the new movie 'Shutter Island,'' starring Leonardo de Caprio, recently at the theatre.  He plays a US Marshal who comes to a remote island that houses an institution of the criminally insane to investigate the disappearance of an escaped patient.  The patient, a woman, had been sent there because she had killed three people.  Later he finds her, and finds out that in reality she was a doctor at the facility who had discovered evidence of MK-Ultra mind control experimentation, and was turned into a patient because she was threatening to expose the operation.

Now compare this to the situation in Huntsville.  Amy Bishop, a doctor(PhD), faces life in an institution for the criminally insane, because she killed three people.

Ok, this is a little slim.  But Amy Bishop was known to do research in the neurosciences.  Maybe she stumbled on stuff she wasn't supposed to know about.  The movie was released just a week after the killings, though it was origonally supposed to have been released three months earlier.  And the character of the doctor in the movie does, in my mind, bear a strong resemblance to Amy Bishop, at least in her facial features. 

Whatever.

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Hmm...I am going to have to see "Shutter Island" now.