Greece is NWO Test Ground, purchases above 1500 Euros to be banned

[Anti_Illuminati]

http://www.henrymakow.com/

Greece is NWO Test Ground, Says Greek Reader

February 11, 2010

"All men of power here, get their power from plundering the Greek people, or having connections with those that do it."


by Christos
(for www.henrymakow.com)

I am 26 years old and live in Greece. I am writing this letter in order to let you know about a new law in Greece announced yesterday.

The financial minister of Greece announced yesterday that from 1/1/2011 all financial transactions of sums above 1500 euros in cash, will be banned. For any transaction above 1500 euros, only credit cards and checks will be legal. The formal explanation for this law is it will combat those who do not pay taxes. But we all know this is not the case...

It seems the new world order wants to make Greece a testing ground for their new laws. For the past months, Greece have been attacked without mercy. We have been called liars, frauds, cheaters, thieves. They are threatening us constantly with banning from the euro zone and default. [These charges are] not true. ... The problem is, based on their accusations and (the virtual) bad situation of Greek finances, they will pass their experimental laws of their new world order.

The fairly new Government of the socialist party, elected 4 months ago, forgot all its promises, and is determined to pass laws giving citizenship to illegal immigrants after 5 years, without any trade-off. We are 10 million Greeks here, and almost 3 million mostly illegal immigrants, who will obtain Greek nationality and will gain the right to bring their families here too... In Pakistan there are even ads saying "for 5000 euros we get you to Greece, to study free, work, make families, and obtain EU passports"...

And now this... The previous government created a new ID card, to collect data from people since childbirth. This government will ban transactions in cash over 1500 euros, in order to make all of us have credit cards. The obvious first step is to ban all cash transactions, then merge this new ID card with the credit system, then, well.... insert this merged ID card into our bodies...

Our peoples' morale is low, society is disorganized because of immigration and propaganda, and we will not fight those laws. You people living in the Western World, be prepared because they are planning the same for you!

BACKGROUND

I will try to give you my personal view of the conditions in Greece.

First of all, there is no trust in politicians. Most people distrust them and know they are scum, but continue to vote for the same people in every election. This happens because they promise privileges in order to get votes. Most politicians are members of secret societies, and have close ties to USA and European elites. Our current prime minister is even an American citizen...

A young man living in Greece and having no connections, is hopeless. Without connections, he will have major difficulties if he wants to join a good University(or complete his studies without bribes), if he wants to find a job, or create his own. He will be forced to join the army while privileged young men with connections will illegally avoid it.

And there is no point discussing finding love... Of course pretty women will pick wealthier men, but in Greece even women of moderate appearance prefer men with deep pockets. They prefer sharing the top men than having a man only for themselves.

And the top men in Greece are all frauds. Greece, apart from some natural resources and its tourism industry, produces nothing of value. Corruption is so big, that all productive forces are drowned. So all men of power here, get their power from plundering the Greek people, or having connections with those that do it. Women (and their families) of course are not concerned about that. As long as someone is wealthy, he is desirable, and value as a person is irrelevant.

Despite poor economic condition (but not so desperate as to warrant dire measures), people in power take pleasure in attacking traditional customs, Orthodox Christianity, and traditional Greek patriots. They protect illegal immigrants, and silence their crimes. They attack Christianity, in the media, at schools etc. They are removing all Christian symbols from public places.

MEDIA

Greek media are a pile of garbage. For the biggest part of the day, most major TV networks will show shows discussing greek "vips" lifestyle, sexual relations etc. There are few "political" shows and news shows, all trying to cover the truth and turn the attention of the people at matters of trivial importance. Propaganda is blatant. The previous government was literally destroyed by TV networks. They promoted heavily the current government, so strongly that previous prime minister was forced to make new elections despite being only for 2 years in government.

Current prime minister made promises, NONE of which kept after being elected. Only a few days after election, he went on with the plans of New World Order. He created an artificially dire financial situation, in order to be able to pass whatever laws he wanted, plus giving his friends some money... He "cooked" our budget, by moving payments of 2010 in 2009 and incomes from 2009 to 2010, in order to both make our deficit bigger and be able to claim in 2010 that he "improved" our economy... This doesn't mean that our previous prime minister wasn't a puppet, just that he wasn't able to fulfill New World Order directions like the new government.

Huge economic scandals are discovered every day, and buried by Greek propaganda media. And most honest people are so concerned with working 2 and 3 jobs in order to feed their families, that cannot fight this corruption. Greek people work on average many more hours weekly than other EU countries, get much less pay, and pay more for the same products. And because of the traitors in government, EU newspapers and media call our people lazy. They say we need to work even more and receive even less... Of course this is not true. The plunder of Greek people has been made with their assistance. But this is a long subject and i wont go on with it.


CONCLUSION

In a few words... Life in Greece sucks. Since I am a computer programmer, i have many times thought about leaving for a better country and make my living there. But i do not want to abandon my home... yet. I would be willing to fight this system, but i see no point since the system is so well entrenched it cannot be tackled by a few men alone.

The reason i wrote you my previous letter is because this new law of banning cash transactions above 1500 euros is just another step towards cashless society, and is being implemented in Greece as a testing phase. I strongly believe it is a matter of time before most western nations see similar laws.

--

"Greek Crisis is Coming to America"

[TheHouseMan]

Well, how are they possibly going to enforce that? They have no way.

[larsonstdoc]

http://www.cnbc.com/id/35344421


Greek Slump Threatens Debt Plan, EU Aid Elusive
Published: Friday, 12 Feb 2010 | 10:20 AM ET Text Size
By: Reuters
Greece's economy shrank more than feared last quarter and the government on Friday sharply revised down its figures for the previous three quarters as well, increasing doubts about its ability to resolve its debt crisis.


Aris Messinis | AFP | Getty Images

A European Union government source said meetings of the region's finance ministers next week were unlikely to put together an aid package for Greece, suggesting governments were still unable to decide how to prevent the crisis from hurting financial markets' faith in the euro zone.

Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou, saying his country had become "a guinea pig in a battle between Europe and the international markets," blamed bickering among EU bodies for delaying support for his country.

"There was a lack of coordination among the various bodies of the EU. The Commission, the member states, the ECB (European Central Bank), and even differences of opinion within these bodies," he told a televised cabinet meeting.

Underlining political obstacles to a rescue for Greece, an Emnid poll published on Thursday indicated 71 percent of people in Germany, which as the euro zone's richest member is key to any bailout, rejected the idea of financial aid for Greece.


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The euro (EUR-) sank to a fresh eight-month low of $1.3529 against the dollar on Friday, while spreads for the government bonds of Greece and other heavily indebted states in the south of the zone widened.

Greece's gross domestic product contracted 0.8 percent in the fourth quarter from the previous quarter, much deeper than the 0.5 percent forecast in a Reuters survey, the government announced.

Inaccurate Statistics

Just as damaging to confidence was the statistics agency's big revisions to shrinkages in past quarters: the first-quarter 2009 fall was changed to 1.0 percent from 0.5 percent, the second quarter to 1.9 percent from 1.2 percent, and the third quarter to 2.5 percent from 1.7 percent on an annual basis.

It is common for governments to revise GDP figures but large inaccuracies in Greek economic data -- some of them apparently deliberate and politically motivated -- have fuelled its debt crisis by angering investors and Greece's EU partners.

Last October, the incoming socialist government revealed Greece's 2009 budget deficit would be twice as big as a previous estimates -- and four times the EU ceiling.

Economists said the latest data suggested Greece's economy shrank around 2 percent over last year; that implies lower-than-expected tax revenues, hurting the government's efforts to slash the deficit.

A deep recession could also make Greek public and private sector unions, which have embarked on a series of one-day strikes to protest against austerity measures, even less willing to accept wage and spending cuts mandated by the government.

"The Greek government's (growth) forecast is far too optimistic," said Ben May of Capital Economics.

"This is going to be another factor making the fiscal adjustment Greece is trying to achieve very difficult." In an effort to prevent speculation about an eventual debt default by Greece, EU leaders pledged at a summit on Thursday to take action "if needed" to protect financial stability in the euro zone -- an unprecedented undertaking to bail out a euro zone member if that proves necessary.

But markets were disappointed by the vagueness of the pledge, which contained no details of the form the aid might take or when it might be disbursed.

The premium investors demand to hold 10-year Greek government bonds rather than benchmark German Bunds rose sharply on Friday to 302 basis points, from 275 bps late on Thursday.

Politics

In addition to the lack of agreement among EU member states on how to handle Greece, one reason for the vagueness of the summit's declaration appeared to be disagreements between politicians and ruling parties within countries such as Germany.

Berlin worries that helping Greece financially would set a precedent, making it liable for future bailouts of weak states in the south of the euro zone.

The EU government source told Reuters that EU nations had agreed they would step in with loans only as a last resort.

"I wouldn't expect anything (concrete on financial aid) at the Ecofin next week," said the source, referring to regular meetings of finance ministers from the euro zone and the full EU on Monday and Tuesday.

The source added that an adverse reaction in the financial markets could trigger a decision on aid at any time, but EU states were reluctant to come up with an aid program quickly because leaders felt they had been "fooled" by Greece for years with inaccurate statistics and broken promises.

"The Greeks have fooled around with us for 10 years. That's why nobody is going to rush in a big aid package quickly," the source said.

Another EU source said that even if ministers could agree on details of an aid package next week, they would not announce those details publicly, because the EU did not want to give the markets the impression that indebted countries such as Greece, Spain and Portugal could count on unlimited EU assistance.

"We must keep the market uncertain," he said.

[Don Quixote]

Wow. Not being too savvy are they experimenting by trying to setup a cashless society?

Nothing above 1500 euros...time for the Blackmarket!

Love about Southern Italy, they have suvived thousands of years with all types of gov't. They still don't pay taxes, they hold tight to the land, they don't trust any gov't, and they use the blackmarket and Bartering every day.

[Valerius]

Another corollary question, will Greece give EU the boot? Greece was doing pretty dog gone good not too long ago.

[flaming_red_pill]

Thanks for this post man, this sort of stuff is what makes me scratch my head about any politician who encourages the exclusive use of virtual currency.......

those poor people!!!!

/pray

=(

[foreverfree]

MY BIG FAT GREEK GOVERNMENT DEFAULT

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/greeks-scramble-pull-out-%E2%82%AC8-billion-local-banks-greece-responds-money-control-measures

We previously wrote about the possibility of a bank run in Greece following unsubstantiated reports that Greek citizens don't trust the Greek financial system all that much anymore, courtesy of the whole bailout and GDP reporting fraud thing. The rumor was not only just confirmed and also quantified: Dow Jones reports that in the past three months Greeks have moved about €8 billion out of local banks "fearing a possible new tax on bank accounts, increased government scrutiny on assets and a run on the banks if Athens is forced to turn to the International Monetary Fund." This represents over a quarter of the money held by private banks in the country. This also represents about €400 billion in total money leaving the system courtesy of fractional reserve banking and the money multiplier. Yet the worst news for Greeks: money controls are coming.

    "There is a lot of uncertainty out there," said a senior private banker at a Greek bank. "We've had a number of customers asking to move funds out of Greece, mostly to Cyprus, Luxembourg and Switzerland."

    Clients of private banks also fear that Greece may be unable able to raise the EUR54 billion it needs this year to pay back maturing bonds and will therefore have to turn to the IMF for help.

    "Some of our clients are concerned about a run on the banks if the IMF gets involved," said another private banker, this one from a foreign bank. "They believe the situation in Greece will get worse before it gets better. There is also very little clarity from the government about its intentions on new tax measures."

     

    "We estimate that €8 billion has moved out of Greece to accounts abroad since December. It's money from bank accounts, stock sales, property sales and other sources. This is pretty substantial considering that there is only €30 billion under management in private banks here," he added.

All is fine and well if this was all: just your plain vanilla run on the bank. But it's not - the Greek response to this capital outflow: upcoming money controls.

    Wealthy individuals may have good reasons to be concerned, however. Finance Minister George Papaconstantinou earlier this month urged Greeks with accounts abroad to repatriate their money and said the capital will be taxed at a 5% rate.  He said those who choose to keep their money abroad should declare their deposits and pay a tax of 8% for the first six months.

    Thereafter he threatened that Greece will use all laws at its disposal, such as double-taxation agreements, to ask foreign banks for information on Greek account holders.

    "For us this is the first step towards taxing all accounts in Greece," said the chief financial officer of a major Greek shipping company. "The line is minimum deposits here and moving all assets abroad,"

And now back to your regularly scheduled program of curling and no mention of the imminent collapse of Greece in the mainstream media whatsoever.

[sab]

Sorry to hear about your country being destroyed, not sure what else to say!


"The financial minister of Greece announced yesterday that from 1/1/2011 all financial transactions of sums above 1500 euros in cash, will be banned. For any transaction above 1500 euros, only credit cards and checks will be legal"

I have some ideas on the above new problem- credit cards.

If you are forced to use credit cards, then could you move over to a Credit Union Credit Card, that way, when you pay fee's, you will be paying them to a peoples bank -a credit union, this will strengthen them, and the banks wont get the fee's.
Hows that for a counter attack against the banks!

Does Greece have credit unions? And can they survive?
Would this idea work in Greece???


Also, you could look at http://bitcoin.org/
P2P virtual computer currency, with no banks.


Trusted barter networks is a last resort.

Best of luck

[ekimdrachir]

Our community savings was re-branded this last year, its called 'Serv-Us' now.

[planning4acrash]

In reality, this will cause more tax evasion, because people who previously reported cash sales over 1500 and paid tax on them will now keep quiet about them. This will create a mega black economy. Is that what the NWO want? Do they really think the Greeks will comply?!