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Bachmann: God will ‘curse’ America if it opposes Israel http://rawstory.com/2010/02/bachmann-god-curse-opposes-israel/By Raw Story Tuesday, February 9th, 2010 -- 3:17 pm Michele Bachmann, the outspoken conservative House representative from Minnesota, says the United States will cease to exist if it "fails to stand" with Israel. "I am convinced in my heart and in my mind that if the United States fails to stand with Israel, that is the end of the United States," Bachmann said at a meeting of the Republican Jewish Coalition in Los Angeles on Feb. 6. Bachmann went on to explain that God's special relationship with Israel means the US would be cursed if it were to oppose Israeli policies. "We have to show that we are inextricably entwined, that as a nation we have been blessed because of our relationship with Israel, and if we reject Israel, then there is a curse that comes into play," Bachmann said. The congresswoman's comments went under the radar until Andy Birkey reported on them at the Minnesota Independent. Citing a transcript from the Israeli affairs blog Israpundit, Birkey summed up Bachmann's position as: "Support for Israel is handed down by God and if the United States pulls back its support, America will cease to exist." Many Republicans have criticized the Obama administration for taking a tougher line with Israel than its predecessors. In the wake of the 2008-2009 Gaza war last year, which saw some 1,400 Palestinians and 13 Israelis killed, the White House has been putting pressure on Israel to make concessions in the peace process. Bachmann, who was elected to the US House in 2006, has positioned herself close to the Republican Party's populist, right-wing flank, seemingly taking her cues from right-wing talk radio and conservative Web sites. She declared last year she intends not to fill out the 2010 census form -- a federal offense -- because she believes it will be skewed by the Obama administration for political purposes. Bachmann has also argued against the right of the accused 9/11 plotters to be put on trial, arguing that such rights are "preserved for American citizens." She has dubbed proposed climate-change legislation "tyranny." While Bachmann has opposed government intervention in the economy, including President Obama's stimulus package, Raw Story reported that she and her family have received nearly a quarter of a million dollars in farm subsidies over the past decade.
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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2010, 07:14:57 PM » |
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I think the real curse comes from America supporting Isreal at all costs.
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2010, 07:21:44 PM » |
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I wonder where Israel was when the Tea Party originally happened? Or when the U.S. signed the Declaration of Independence? Or when we arose victorious at Yorktown? Maybe they were hiding in France?
If the U.S. issued a Declaration of Independence from Israel--now THAT would be a Tea Party.
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2010, 07:24:11 PM » |
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The entire fake tea party movement is being exposed at light speed.
Talk about the fed...then bring up flat tax...FAKE!
Talk about the troops...then bring up bombing Iran/irrational support of Israel...FAKE!
Talk about Obama...and not mentioning Bush...FAKE!
Talk about oppressive global warming legislation...then propose increasing domestic spying...FAKE!
It goes on and on and on and on
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All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2010, 07:33:32 PM » |
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Anyone here ever read
The Life of an American Jew in Racist Marxist Israel, or
My Farewell to Israel, Thorn of the Middle East -
both by Jack Bernstein?
I have several mp3s of john Stadmiller reading the first one on his show one day. Maybe Ishould dig them up....
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2010, 07:37:47 PM » |
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I read the first.
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2010, 07:40:25 PM » |
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The sad thing is quite a few people believe what she says.......
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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2010, 09:04:55 PM » |
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The entire fake tea party movement is being exposed at light speed.
Talk about the fed...then bring up flat tax...FAKE!
Talk about the troops...then bring up bombing Iran/irrational support of Israel...FAKE!
Talk about Obama...and not mentioning Bush...FAKE!
Talk about oppressive global warming legislation...then propose increasing domestic spying...FAKE!
It goes on and on and on and on
It should be clear to anyone who's paying attention that any grassroots movement will immediately be re-directed right back into the phony two-party sham. The Tea Party movement may have actually had the establishment a bit worried... For a little while anyway. The neocon hijackers have stormed the cockpit... These people are more clever than I thought.
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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2010, 09:26:33 PM » |
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Notice to all NWO scum - leave us alone or be eliminated. Liberty or Death.
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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2010, 10:16:27 PM » |
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I thought Michelle Bauchman was Ron Paul's protege???
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2010, 04:19:09 AM » |
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I thought Michelle Bauchman was Ron Paul's protege???
Anakin was Obi-Wan's protoge, too.
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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2010, 07:58:23 AM » |
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God will curse America? How stupid!!!! So NOW that Amerika is in a big pile of crap what do you call this. Is GOD doing this? GMAB and get a life and a mind of your own.
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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2010, 08:19:49 AM » |
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Wether you choose to belive it or not, there is a historical president for countrys that have went against the Hebrew people loosing status and power.
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« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2010, 10:15:35 PM » |
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Wether you choose to belive it or not, there is a historical president for countrys that have went against the Hebrew people loosing status and power.
no one is going against the Hebrew people (except FBI provocateurs like Hal Turner). Israel's roots are anti-semetic. It was founded by Nazis and National Socialists who believe that gad is subservient to the state. It is an abomination and many "hebrews" are waking up to this fact. In addition, we mostly get the news of the extremists in that very divided country (because of the powerful MIC lobbies and debt slavery lobbies. But many are speaking out against the zionzais and that is why they are incresing provocateur false flags. that said, there is no excuse for the genocide of the palestinians no matter who is puppet and puppet master.
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« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2010, 10:37:03 PM » |
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Wow, someone named Bachmann is a Zionist fanatic.
Well, I must say that comes as quite a surprise...not.
Didn't trust her in the first place. Another Republican "machine" screw-up co-opting the tea party crowd.
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« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2010, 11:09:40 PM » |
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Wether you choose to belive it or not, there is a historical president for countrys that have went against the Hebrew people loosing status and power.
Please tell me the names of those countries.
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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2010, 11:15:05 PM » |
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Well, Rome had several hundred good years after destroying Israel completely. Sounds like it is worth the risk.
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« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2010, 11:20:16 PM » |
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Well, Rome had several hundred good years after destroying Israel completely. Sounds like it is worth the risk.
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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2010, 11:21:51 PM » |
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Opposing Israel, not necessarily destroying it. Although that does sound tempting at times.
Sometimes, it is only your best friends that oppose you. Especially, when you are in the wrong.
Right now Israel needs some really good friends.
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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2010, 11:27:52 PM » |
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Opposing Israel, not necessarily destroying it. Although that does sound tempting at times.
this forum is against targeting any religion, race, or nationality. Please do not engage in Cass Sunstein type arguments on a truth forum. thanks even the CFR jew spy achmadinajad dilineates the zionist segments of the government and never calls for the total destruction of all citizens of israel.
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« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2010, 11:29:58 PM » |
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I thought I clarified that. Read the section you just quoted again.
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« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2010, 11:33:15 PM » |
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Michele Bachmann, the outspoken conservative House representative from Minnesota, says the United States will cease to exist if it "fails to stand" with Israel. Yep! The first line of the article gives it away.
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« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2010, 11:34:29 PM » |
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Sounds rather like a threat, doesn't it?
Israeli lightning?
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« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2010, 11:34:35 PM » |
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I thought I clarified that. Read the section you just quoted again.
"Although that does sound tempting at times." ? tempting like an ice cream sunday? there are psychos at DoD (Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz/Cheney) whose temptations to exterminate a billion muslims have had powerful effects on the last 10 years of genocide in the middle east. Read "The Secret Team", by a wink and a nod these actions occur.
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« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2010, 11:42:56 PM » |
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I don't think you have to worry about the DOD taking out Israel, but you might want to look again at the attack on the U.S. Liberty and the van full of Israeli 'art students' that were filming 911 and dancing.
Our friends the Israelis already have American blood on their hands though they will never admit it, and we will probably never have the guts to confront them publicly about it.
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« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2010, 11:49:06 PM » |
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I don't think you have to worry about the DOD taking out Israel, but you might want to look again at the attack on the U.S. Liberty and the van full of Israeli 'art students' that were filming 911 and dancing.
Our friends the Israelis already have American blood on their hands though they will never admit it, and we will probably never have the guts to confront them publicly about it.
yes the LBJ deal with the neocons in israel against the USS Liberty is a matter of record and as all rich men's wars, thepeopel on both sides get screwed. And the dancing israelis as well as the 15 patsies from Saudi Arabia, the German/Dutch terrorists colluding with Mohammad Atta and Turkey's Giza corporation also expose the elite plans on 9/11 where The Secret Team (internationally) pulled it off against the citizens of their respective countries. the DoD will not take out Israel, no one will but millions will diie if the Secret Team is able to create WWIII by escalating provocations whichinclude israel,theCFR/Soros' efforts in Iran, Turkey, and many others.
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« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2010, 04:58:26 AM » |
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Superstition.
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« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2010, 05:27:10 AM » |
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In 628 or 629 the Byzantine Emperor Heraclius carried out a massacre and expulsion of the Jews in Palestine. The Byzantine Empire did fall -- in 1454, to Islamic forces who had long ago also conquered the Holy Land (also in the seventh century), the descendents of those Arab and Turkic conquerors are still around today and many still have their own nation-states.
The mere existence of the Arabs and the Turks would seem to refute the idea that any people who oppose Zionism or the will of the Jews is doomed.
Time will tell who is doomed and who isn't.
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« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2010, 05:22:56 PM » |
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In 628 or 629 the Byzantine Emperor Heraclius carried out a massacre and expulsion of the Jews in Palestine. The Byzantine Empire did fall -- in 1454, to Islamic forces who had long ago also conquered the Holy Land (also in the seventh century), the descendents of those Arab and Turkic conquerors are still around today and many still have their own nation-states.
The mere existence of the Arabs and the Turks would seem to refute the idea that any people who oppose Zionism or the will of the Jews is doomed.
Time will tell who is doomed and who isn't.
seems they lost a lot of power and werent really an Empire as they made treaty after treaty just to survive. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_EmpireI never said anything about being destroyed or even doomed, what i said is, "loosing status and power". As the Byzantine empire clearly did.
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« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2010, 05:41:54 PM » |
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The entire fake tea party movement is being exposed at light speed.
Talk about the fed...then bring up flat tax...FAKE!
Talk about the troops...then bring up bombing Iran/irrational support of Israel...FAKE!
Talk about Obama...and not mentioning Bush...FAKE!
Talk about oppressive global warming legislation...then propose increasing domestic spying...FAKE!
It goes on and on and on and on At risk of sounding like a broken record, this is why we must start insisting that political "leaders" go beyond the same old canned feel-good rhetoric that Republicans spew every election season about how they support "reducing taxes," getting "government out of our lives," protecting our "freedom," etc., etc., and openly state whether or not they (a) support repealing certain laws (e.g., the "Patriot" Act, Homeland "Security" Act, Military Commissions Act, etc.), and (b) support implementing certain reforms (e.g., replacing our debt-based money system with a debt-free money system). http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=162212.0If they fail or refuse to do this, that's a tell-tale sign that they're political operatives.
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« Reply #31 on: March 17, 2010, 06:02:46 PM » |
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seems they lost a lot of power and werent really an Empire as they made treaty after treaty just to survive. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_EmpireI never said anything about being destroyed or even doomed, what i said is, "loosing status and power". As the Byzantine empire clearly did. Over a very long period of time. Eventually everybody's enemies die of old age, if nothing else. What about the Persians? They conquered the Israelites. They are still around. They are called Iranians now. And the Greeks. They conquered the Israelites. They are still around. They are called Greeks today.
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« Reply #32 on: March 17, 2010, 06:16:44 PM » |
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Over a very long period of time. Eventually everybody's enemies die of old age, if nothing else.
What about the Persians? They conquered the Israelites. They are still around. They are called Iranians now. And the Greeks. They conquered the Israelites. They are still around. They are called Greeks today.
Do you need glasses? I never said anything about being destroyed or even doomed, what i said is, "loosing status and power".
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« Reply #33 on: March 17, 2010, 06:33:28 PM » |
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Fair enough. If America dares to oppose the great and mighty Israel, God's favorite, it will lose status and power, if you believe this religious/superstitious hogwash.
A. Isn't America already losing status and power anyway? B. Why is this something with which I should personally be concerned? C. Haven't we lost status and international respect standing up for Israel, while it defies all common standards of human rights with respect to the Plaestinians? D. Haven't we weakened ourselves militarily and strategically fighting wars now on Israel's behalf, to the point where we couldn't fight another land war right now if we needed/wanted to? E. Is this a moral reason, or merely one of practical self-interest? If GOD were unjust, wouldn't it be our duty to oppose Him.
Christ said to the Jews, "Your father is the devil." How do you know your "God" isn't the other guy?
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